I have a few problems:

1. Packs need better BPO's. Yeah, I know, it's frowned upon by most. But you know what? If people spend their real world money, they deserve an advantage. Any BPO should trump and ISK weapon. I don't care about the whole "risk is the point game". Maybe I like the game, the premise, and don't feel like risking. And so what if I have the money to spend on a nicer gun or suit BPO and someone else doesn't, that's their problem. Sorry, but that's how the world works, some have, and some don't. BPO's aren't wrecking the game, because at least those of us that buy them are actually contributing to the developers. The BPO's shouldn't just be more, but better. FAR better and FAR more. There's no reason why a Kaalotika (or whatever it's called) should be better than a covenant rifle for example.

2. I'm sick of Iron sights. Why can't I have an A-cog scope to stick on my Toxin AR? Preferably a BPO module.

3. The range on the shotgun is ridiculously high. I regularly get hit from far off distances with it, and that shouldn't happen. Same with Mass Drivers, I just played a match where either someone had rapid fire, or that firing rate needs to be seriously slowed down. I didn't get killed, but watched 4 of my teammates basically get sniped with one, in very quick succession.

4. Where is the armory and user marketplace we keep hearing is coming? If I want to share my equipment with my corp, I should be able to.

5. Orbital strikes. FAR too often. It's obscene. Maybe one per match, ok. When one guy can call 4 of them in one match, that's BS.

6. Guys that sit there and camp in insanely high places. There needs to be map limits not just on boundaries on the ground, but up on buildings as well.

7. More BPO's. At least one BPO for every class of suits, weapons, modules, vehicle, etc.

8. Separate the PC users, and if possible, move sharpshooter users. Both have an unfair advantage over DS3 users. I'm not saying kick them off the game, but make it so they play each other without interacting with DS3 people.

Overall, I like this game. And it may sound like a lot of griping, but I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels this way. Everyone has the right to their own opinion, and I respect that. However, for a game that's supposed to cater to people with multiple opinions (BPO's vs. consumables, etc.) it doesn't seem to.

I have a few problems:

1. Packs need better BPO's. Yeah, I know, it's frowned upon by most. But you know what? If people spend their real world money, they deserve an advantage. Any BPO should trump and ISK weapon. I don't care about the whole "risk is the point game". Maybe I like the game, the premise, and don't feel like risking. And so what if I have the money to spend on a nicer gun or suit BPO and someone else doesn't, that's their problem. Sorry, but that's how the world works, some have, and some don't. BPO's aren't wrecking the game, because at least those of us that buy them are actually contributing to the developers. The BPO's shouldn't just be more, but better. FAR better and FAR more. There's no reason why a Kaalotika (or whatever it's called) should be better than a covenant rifle for example.

2. I'm sick of Iron sights. Why can't I have an A-cog scope to stick on my Toxin AR? Preferably a BPO module.

3. The range on the shotgun is ridiculously high. I regularly get hit from far off distances with it, and that shouldn't happen. Same with Mass Drivers, I just played a match where either someone had rapid fire, or that firing rate needs to be seriously slowed down. I didn't get killed, but watched 4 of my teammates basically get sniped with one, in very quick succession.

4. Where is the armory and user marketplace we keep hearing is coming? If I want to share my equipment with my corp, I should be able to.

5. Orbital strikes. FAR too often. It's obscene. Maybe one per match, ok. When one guy can call 4 of them in one match, that's BS.

6. Guys that sit there and camp in insanely high places. There needs to be map limits not just on boundaries on the ground, but up on buildings as well.

7. More BPO's. At least one BPO for every class of suits, weapons, modules, vehicle, etc.

8. Separate the PC users, and if possible, move sharpshooter users. Both have an unfair advantage over DS3 users. I'm not saying kick them off the game, but make it so they play each other without interacting with DS3 people.

Overall, I like this game. And it may sound like a lot of griping, but I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels this way. Everyone has the right to their own opinion, and I respect that. However, for a game that's supposed to cater to people with multiple opinions (BPO's vs. consumables, etc.) it doesn't seem to.

Yeah, kinda lame that my Dragonfly Assault and Covenant Assault the exact same. Sure If I was spec'd into Gallente Assault or Caldari Assault then I'd get the bonuses applied, but I don't. Pretty sure Dren Assault is also the same, but didn't shell out the 100 bucks for it.

If people spend their real world money, they deserve an advantage.

Any BPO should trump and ISK weapon.

The market will come. The problem is Eve Online. DUST's market will merge with the Eve market.

Eve Online has an economy and market that is so complex, yet so successful, that Guild Wars II tried to adopt the system. Eve's economy is considered to be the most robust and the most stable in the entire mmo industry.

Obvious troll is obvious.
Don't feed him.

It-¦s so complex my geopraphy teacher even referred to it as the best example for a free enterprise economy.

Pathetic self entitled child. Your daddy should get the advantage in the game, since he is the one paying for AUR on your account.

Obvious troll is obvious.
Don't feed him.

OP you missed the point somewhat, AURUM gear is so you can skip SP allocation too a degree, I have done that to use proto gear, but when I am having bad rounds (quite alot of them these days when I can be bothered with playing, game is going stale) its nice to swap to my Covenant DS with a Toxin AR and some ISKmods on knowing the ISK parts of that suit fitting only cost 10K ISK per fitting rather then 35K for my advanced, looking at the ISK cost of Duvolles/proto scramblers and the cost of proto Caldari assault suitsthats going to be 250 to 300K per suit, not fun to lose them

yes You now hoav a shiny BPO suit/gun/lav

but if it was superior and almost impossible to beat with ISK gear you would drive away those who cannot afford them, the few AURUM things I have came froma birthday PSN giftcard, and most of that went on SP boosters lol

Everyone hates you and you should probably find a game that you actually enjoy.

So I read the first one and stopped. This isn't pay to win noob. Risk is what makes this game unique compare to other shooters. Risk makes this game more of a challenge. You think just because you can pay for stuff with real money you should get an advantage? Seriously man. You don't like it GTFO Dust doesn't need people like you. You're going to complain about risk you'll never survive in New Eden. If everyone had BPO for higher stuff then what would be the point in using ISK items? it's a free game too, and by free it's actually free. Don't expect to win just because you pay with real money. That's not how this game is going to be, and it shouldn't be that way either.

So you're obviously ******* mental.

I mean, people are STILL posting threads about "pay-to-win" after all this time, and you are literally arguing that the game isn't good because you can't "pay-to-win"?

To clarify, I'm not a noob, I played this since the Beta launched, and used the ISK items, so I clearly understand both sides of the argument. I just think there should be better BPO gear, and more of it.

You obviously don't understand both sides if you're saying " I just think there should be better BPO gear, and more of it"

BPOs are where they need to be and they don't need anymore. You may say it's not pay2win because there is an isk variant but still. Even though there is an isk variant of everything doesn't eliminate the pay2win argument.

IF Mr. Moneybags comes into the game, he should be able to buy prototype, Adv gear (that are unlimited. keep that in mind) with real money. People with money can just buy all the unlimited gear they want. (It also comes at an earlier level).


More and better aurum gear will just cross that line of pay2win. It will only hurt the game.

I have a few problems:

1. Packs need better BPO's. Yeah, I know, it's frowned upon by most. But you know what? If people spend their real world money, they deserve an advantage. Any BPO should trump and ISK weapon. I don't care about the whole "risk is the point game". Maybe I like the game, the premise, and don't feel like risking. And so what if I have the money to spend on a nicer gun or suit BPO and someone else doesn't, that's their problem. Sorry, but that's how the world works, some have, and some don't. BPO's aren't wrecking the game, because at least those of us that buy them are actually contributing to the developers. The BPO's shouldn't just be more, but better. FAR better and FAR more. There's no reason why a Kaalotika (or whatever it's called) should be better than a covenant rifle for example.

2. I'm sick of Iron sights. Why can't I have an A-cog scope to stick on my Toxin AR? Preferably a BPO module.

3. The range on the shotgun is ridiculously high. I regularly get hit from far off distances with it, and that shouldn't happen. Same with Mass Drivers, I just played a match where either someone had rapid fire, or that firing rate needs to be seriously slowed down. I didn't get killed, but watched 4 of my teammates basically get sniped with one, in very quick succession.

4. Where is the armory and user marketplace we keep hearing is coming? If I want to share my equipment with my corp, I should be able to.

5. Orbital strikes. FAR too often. It's obscene. Maybe one per match, ok. When one guy can call 4 of them in one match, that's BS.

6. Guys that sit there and camp in insanely high places. There needs to be map limits not just on boundaries on the ground, but up on buildings as well.

7. More BPO's. At least one BPO for every class of suits, weapons, modules, vehicle, etc.

8. Separate the PC users, and if possible, move sharpshooter users. Both have an unfair advantage over DS3 users. I'm not saying kick them off the game, but make it so they play each other without interacting with DS3 people.

Overall, I like this game. And it may sound like a lot of griping, but I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels this way. Everyone has the right to their own opinion, and I respect that. However, for a game that's supposed to cater to people with multiple opinions (BPO's vs. consumables, etc.) it doesn't seem to.

But that's how eve works. Or haven't you heard about the 9000 dollar ship?

And for the record, I think the prototype gear is kind of BS although I don't know much about it. I'm talking about like the Sever, Raven, Dragonfly, stuff like that.

But that's how eve works. Or haven't you heard about the 9000 dollar ship?

And for the record, I think the prototype gear is kind of BS although I don't know much about it. I'm talking about like the Sever, Raven, Dragonfly, stuff like that.

Those BPOs are STD for money. BPOs should go above STD gear.

Did you hear about it blowing up?

Yeah, I laughed. Even a guy like me that buys BPO's thought 9000 is ridiculous.

As for orbitals, I know it's work to get ONE. keyword: one. maybe two. Not four.

True, I just think it should be limited. Like either multiple smaller strikes, or one great big one.

As for the BPO's, I own them all. The reason I do is because when the armory gets started, I want to be able to outfit the members of my corp in BPO gear. I plan on giving away everything except my Toxins, Raven suit, Covenant rifle and Dragonfly scout suit. Partially because I want to give my corp an advantage, but mostly because some of my members can't afford them. I'm not some BPO horder, I'm doing it for a reason. I'm lucky enough to be in a position to do so, I'm just upset at the lack of variety (although I can work with it) and most importantly not being able to share the gear that's sitting there collecting dust (no pun intended). I don't want to P2W, but I'm tired of seeing my corp, which is full of new members, getting slaughtered. I'm not even the corp leader. If CCP wants to draw more users, they need to fix this.

I am pretty sure the 9000$ ship was paid for by actual playtime on many players ingame. The materials and production cost was then converted into plex which was converted into $ just to put a scale on it and make people see how big it was, not because it was bought directly through $ or plex. Eve is not p2w, yes you can buy isk but there is no real advantage to that for long-term players.

It would be cool to see multiple strikes though. Almost like a war point bank. Would you get 2 small strikes or one big one?


As far as your second note. It's not really something that needs fixed, (unless you're talking about newbies getting slaughtered. Then yes, it needs to be fixed) I don't know how the corp asset things is gonna work (If you can give BPOs) but I see what your doing. People are getting slaughtered so you want to help out with some BPOs because you can... .

That's why BPOs are at the STD level. It gives people a good foothold to learn the game (While using unlimited gear. Therefore the won't have to worry about restocking.). BPOs aren't bad. they just make it so if you have the money, then you can use some OK unlimited gear. Or grind out for GOOD restockable gear.

I think what you REALLY want is the ability to trade items. You have the money to give players BPOs and you want to give your guys Good BPOs instead of OK ones.

I have a few problems:

1. My zero SP requirement BPOs that I paid money for should be better than prototype weapons that require around 1mil SP.

2. All my guns should have scopes because I played too much CoD.

3. People around me and I got killed or just hit by something that isn't an AR...NERF IT!

4. Merc market, I WANT IT NOW!

5. I got killed by an OB, the other team had a good squad, NERF IT!

6. I got sniped by a sniper, NERF IT!

7. After you make BPOs the best thing in the game, give me one for everything so I never have to skill into anyhting and can always win!

8. Everyone should have to play the game just like I do or I will whine and cry until my mommy makes you do what I say!

Overall, I like this game. But my parents always give me my way, so this game should too!

1. Packs need better BPO's. Yeah, I know, it's frowned upon by most. But you know what? If people spend their real world money, they deserve an advantage. Any BPO should trump and ISK weapon. I don't care about the whole "risk is the point game". Maybe I like the game, the premise, and don't feel like risking. And so what if I have the money to spend on a nicer gun or suit BPO and someone else doesn't, that's their problem. Sorry, but that's how the world works, some have, and some don't. BPO's aren't wrecking the game, because at least those of us that buy them are actually contributing to the developers. The BPO's shouldn't just be more, but better. FAR better and FAR more. There's no reason why a Kaalotika (or whatever it's called) should be better than a covenant rifle for example.

I don't want to P2W

You joking?

Lulz. So many lulz.

This is no joke. Look at Eve Online for yourself if you don't believe me. The whole thing is one giant ecosystem of its own. There is no other mmo like it in the world.

That's no joke. He plays since six years and he played EVE for a whole lesson to show it.

I guess I'm going to take the time to address everyone individually.

Who are you to tell me to get out what Dust needs or doesn't? Again, people like me pay for this game so people like you can play it.

To clarify, I'm not a noob, I played this since the Beta launched, and used the ISK items, so I clearly understand both sides of the argument. I just think there should be better BPO gear, and more of it.

But that's how eve works. Or haven't you heard about the 9000 dollar ship?

While EVE does have a lot of BPO it requires more than just owning the BPO to use it like in Dust. In EVE you have to have different minerals and a set of skills to create what the BPO is, in Dust all you have to do is own the BPO.

Welcome to New Eden. Where risk-aversed players are not welcomed. The exit is that way. You can leave at any time. Just don't expect sympathy from us when you do leave. You are no different than the whiners who whined about Eve Online having too much risk because they are not able to AFK in their mining barge for hours on end without some outlaw player ganking them in high-sec or unable to avoid the scams that are rampant in the game because they are too lazy to read the details of the contract they accepted before accepting it.

If you don't like risk, too ******* bad. You can go ahead and cry me a river, Justin Timberlake.

So you want to be able to pay money and be better than anything, but you don't want P2W?

Please explain yourself, it seems you're hopelessly confused right now

Keep digging that hole....

mass driver does need a reduction in rof..

it fires to fast for a nade launcher...

To me, and yes I'm going to say it, this sounds like yet another AR user complaining that he can't kill everything all the time with his trusty AR. Well, OP, we're pretty close to the point where you can.

But that's how eve works. Or haven't you heard about the 9000 dollar ship?

And for the record, I think the prototype gear is kind of BS although I don't know much about it. I'm talking about like the Sever, Raven, Dragonfly, stuff like that.

I meant comparable.

If people spend their real world money, they deserve an advantage. Any BPO should trump and ISK weapon. I don't care about the whole "risk is the point game". Maybe I like the game, the premise, and don't feel like risking. And so what if I have the money to spend on a nicer gun or suit BPO and someone else doesn't, that's their problem. Sorry, but that's how the world works, some have, and some don't.

Yet some people like me who buy gear don't think it's fair that people who sit on here for hours and have the time to do so have the clear advantage over those of us with lives, families, and careers.

Who's digging the hole here? The entire complaint on BPO's is it's not fair to ISK people, yet spending thousands of hours on here isn't fair to the ones who can't. You know what I think? I think the hardcore users are simply afraid that someone can buy a few bundles, and be equal to them. So now who's spoiled and entitled?

If you had bothered to read any of the other posts, you would have seen me already present this argument. I'm GLAD that BPO people threaten the system. It's keeping new players from getting slaughtered. I'm all for it, and I want to see them even more powerful. And I'm willing to bet that as this game goes on, if the Elite bundle is any inclination, it will go that way when CCP realizes how much money it can generate off them. I think most of the other users do, and that's why they are so against BPO's in general. I don't mind P2W systems, because I don't see it that way. I see it as pay to completely customize and have some nice gear that I don't lose. As I said in my OP, that's the way the world works, as cold as it may be. If someone inherits a bunch of money and doesn't have to work, or someone has a good paying job, you should be happy for them. You don't hate someone driving past you in a Ferrari on the same road you're driving your Ford Focus on, and the same principle applies here with what I'm saying. That's life. Maybe you had to work to have that Focus, and the other guy was just given that Ferrari. No one's knocking you for having a Ford, just don't beat up on the guys that have the resources to have better or more of something. It's capitalism, and it's been around for a while. I suggest you read up on it.

It's already a slow enough.

And I'm willing to bet that as this game goes on, if the Elite bundle is any inclination, it will go that way when CCP realizes how much money it can generate off them. I think most of the other users do, and that's why they are so against BPO's in general.

I have a few problems:

1. Packs need better BPO's. Yeah, I know, it's frowned upon by most. But you know what? If people spend their real world money, they deserve an advantage. Any BPO should trump and ISK weapon. I don't care about the whole "risk is the point game". Maybe I like the game, the premise, and don't feel like risking. And so what if I have the money to spend on a nicer gun or suit BPO and someone else doesn't, that's their problem. Sorry, but that's how the world works, some have, and some don't. BPO's aren't wrecking the game, because at least those of us that buy them are actually contributing to the developers. The BPO's shouldn't just be more, but better. FAR better and FAR more. There's no reason why a Kaalotika (or whatever it's called) should be better than a covenant rifle for example.

2. I'm sick of Iron sights. Why can't I have an A-cog scope to stick on my Toxin AR? Preferably a BPO module.

3. The range on the shotgun is ridiculously high. I regularly get hit from far off distances with it, and that shouldn't happen. Same with Mass Drivers, I just played a match where either someone had rapid fire, or that firing rate needs to be seriously slowed down. I didn't get killed, but watched 4 of my teammates basically get sniped with one, in very quick succession.

4. Where is the armory and user marketplace we keep hearing is coming? If I want to share my equipment with my corp, I should be able to.

5. Orbital strikes. FAR too often. It's obscene. Maybe one per match, ok. When one guy can call 4 of them in one match, that's BS.

6. Guys that sit there and camp in insanely high places. There needs to be map limits not just on boundaries on the ground, but up on buildings as well.

7. More BPO's. At least one BPO for every class of suits, weapons, modules, vehicle, etc.

8. Separate the PC users, and if possible, move sharpshooter users. Both have an unfair advantage over DS3 users. I'm not saying kick them off the game, but make it so they play each other without interacting with DS3 people.

Overall, I like this game. And it may sound like a lot of griping, but I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels this way. Everyone has the right to their own opinion, and I respect that. However, for a game that's supposed to cater to people with multiple opinions (BPO's vs. consumables, etc.) it doesn't seem to.

Well, I'm not leaving. So you'll just have to deal with me, and those like me who have an alternate point of view. I suggest you get used to it. As I said, I'm not the only one.

So I guess we can make a deal, I'll cry you a river but if you want to bring popular songs into it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V06TXd8CwRI

And if you're still not following:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWmmPMuBgjA

I have a few problems:

1. Packs need better BPO's. Yeah, I know, it's frowned upon by most. But you know what? If people spend their real world money, they deserve an advantage. Any BPO should trump and ISK weapon. I don't care about the whole "risk is the point game". Maybe I like the game, the premise, and don't feel like risking. And so what if I have the money to spend on a nicer gun or suit BPO and someone else doesn't, that's their problem. Sorry, but that's how the world works, some have, and some don't. BPO's aren't wrecking the game, because at least those of us that buy them are actually contributing to the developers. The BPO's shouldn't just be more, but better. FAR better and FAR more. There's no reason why a Kaalotika (or whatever it's called) should be better than a covenant rifle for example.

2. I'm sick of Iron sights. Why can't I have an A-cog scope to stick on my Toxin AR? Preferably a BPO module.

3. The range on the shotgun is ridiculously high. I regularly get hit from far off distances with it, and that shouldn't happen. Same with Mass Drivers, I just played a match where either someone had rapid fire, or that firing rate needs to be seriously slowed down. I didn't get killed, but watched 4 of my teammates basically get sniped with one, in very quick succession.

4. Where is the armory and user marketplace we keep hearing is coming? If I want to share my equipment with my corp, I should be able to.

5. Orbital strikes. FAR too often. It's obscene. Maybe one per match, ok. When one guy can call 4 of them in one match, that's BS.

6. Guys that sit there and camp in insanely high places. There needs to be map limits not just on boundaries on the ground, but up on buildings as well.

7. More BPO's. At least one BPO for every class of suits, weapons, modules, vehicle, etc.

8. Separate the PC users, and if possible, move sharpshooter users. Both have an unfair advantage over DS3 users. I'm not saying kick them off the game, but make it so they play each other without interacting with DS3 people.

Overall, I like this game. And it may sound like a lot of griping, but I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels this way. Everyone has the right to their own opinion, and I respect that. However, for a game that's supposed to cater to people with multiple opinions (BPO's vs. consumables, etc.) it doesn't seem to.

You're still here?
After all the bashing I thought you would be gone by now. Respect.
Wanting to help out your corp using BPO's is admirable to say the least. Many corps would be better off to have players with the same mind set as you.

AUR items being better then ISK is not going to happen 'cause it's against CCP's plans for the future but after reading through this thread I can understand how you feel. You don't seem to be in an alliance and ours could use you. We are happy to help the newer players in anyway we can. (Actually spent nearly an hour in merc quarters trying to explain the game to a newb. We also helped him decide which role he was going to take on.)

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`Sigh. Just another fun game of DUST .

I have a few problems:

The range on the shotgun is ridiculously high.

Orbital strikes. FAR too often. It's obscene. Maybe one per match, ok. When one guy can call 4 of them in one match, that's BS.

More BPO's. At least one BPO for every class of suits, weapons, modules, vehicle, etc.

Separate the PC users, and if possible, move sharpshooter users. Both have an unfair advantage over DS3 users. I'm not saying kick them off the game, but make it so they play each other without interacting with DS3 people.

Overall, I like this game. And it may sound like a lot of griping, but I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels this way. Everyone has the right to their own opinion, and I respect that.

OP shotgun range, **** off its **** now it used to be amazing and worth skilling into.

OBs come from team work or carrying the **** out of a match, dont like it get good and get your own OBs.

Less BPOs, only give standard BPOs, **** your money you filthy little ***** its annoying enough people have to work for ISK to pay for proto gear and others fags like you just spend money to keep your suits stocked since youre too **** to stop dying and save ISK.

KB/M user do not have advantage over controller, you will come across those better with KB/M and those better with controller, it all comes down to skill.

Overall you're a whiny little ***** who wants whatever she sees with daddys money, and you have no right to an opinion.

I have a few problems:

1. Packs need better BPO's. Yeah, I know, it's frowned upon by most. But you know what? If people spend their real world money, they deserve an advantage. Any BPO should trump and ISK weapon. I don't care about the whole "risk is the point game". Maybe I like the game, the premise, and don't feel like risking. And so what if I have the money to spend on a nicer gun or suit BPO and someone else doesn't, that's their problem. Sorry, but that's how the world works, some have, and some don't. BPO's aren't wrecking the game, because at least those of us that buy them are actually contributing to the developers. The BPO's shouldn't just be more, but better. FAR better and FAR more. There's no reason why a Kaalotika (or whatever it's called) should be better than a covenant rifle for example.

2. I'm sick of Iron sights. Why can't I have an A-cog scope to stick on my Toxin AR? Preferably a BPO module.

3. The range on the shotgun is ridiculously high. I regularly get hit from far off distances with it, and that shouldn't happen. Same with Mass Drivers, I just played a match where either someone had rapid fire, or that firing rate needs to be seriously slowed down. I didn't get killed, but watched 4 of my teammates basically get sniped with one, in very quick succession.

4. Where is the armory and user marketplace we keep hearing is coming? If I want to share my equipment with my corp, I should be able to.

5. Orbital strikes. FAR too often. It's obscene. Maybe one per match, ok. When one guy can call 4 of them in one match, that's BS.

6. Guys that sit there and camp in insanely high places. There needs to be map limits not just on boundaries on the ground, but up on buildings as well.

7. More BPO's. At least one BPO for every class of suits, weapons, modules, vehicle, etc.

8. Separate the PC users, and if possible, move sharpshooter users. Both have an unfair advantage over DS3 users. I'm not saying kick them off the game, but make it so they play each other without interacting with DS3 people.

Overall, I like this game. And it may sound like a lot of griping, but I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels this way. Everyone has the right to their own opinion, and I respect that. However, for a game that's supposed to cater to people with multiple opinions (BPO's vs. consumables, etc.) it doesn't seem to.

okay 2 things where oribitals are 2500 wp's for a squad then the squad leader calls in the orbital strike now it sucks being on the recieving end but you cant take away peoples reward for doing teamwork or having alot of skill or spending alot of time playing the game and having squads of proto gear to stomp on people now having other options besides just orbital strikes like bombing runs or selecting turret or instaltion drop ins would make the game have more options but at the end of the day it will be orbitals cause there reliable and give a ton of kills

now on the the bpp thing guess what there needs to be adv and proto bpos every module weapon suit vehical turret all need bpos that way the people who want to say donate 10 bucks to the game to get a proto large blaster turret bpo can so that cuts the cost of there tank down by almost 1 million isk will it break the game hell no cause look at blood raiders saga look at ishakona watch sage there not breaking the game and there bpo lavs now as a player who has bought every merc pack that s in the game and also has almost all the bpos available i can tell you yes there is a few people that would but there isnt many that will spend the money to buy it when they can just get it for free

and before you wanna add more rage remember raven assault sever logistics suit both require med dropsuit skill lev 3 and here racial verient skil lev 1 in order to use the bpo they purcheased and guess what they never broke the game so having a proto suit dont mean you dont need any sp to wear it you still need the skills your just buying the right to have infenite of them so you can spend your isk on other things

okay 2 things where oribitals are 2500 wp's for a squad then the squad leader calls in the orbital strike now it sucks being on the recieving end but you cant take away peoples reward for doing teamwork or having alot of skill or spending alot of time playing the game and having squads of proto gear to stomp on people now having other options besides just orbital strikes like bombing runs or selecting turret or instaltion drop ins would make the game have more options but at the end of the day it will be orbitals cause there reliable and give a ton of kills

now on the the bpp thing guess what there needs to be adv and proto bpos every module weapon suit vehical turret all need bpos that way the people who want to say donate 10 bucks to the game to get a proto large blaster turret bpo can so that cuts the cost of there tank down by almost 1 million isk will it break the game hell no cause look at blood raiders saga look at ishakona watch sage there not breaking the game and there bpo lavs now as a player who has bought every merc pack that s in the game and also has almost all the bpos available i can tell you yes there is a few people that would but there isnt many that will spend the money to buy it when they can just get it for free

and before you wanna add more rage remember raven assault sever logistics suit both require med dropsuit skill lev 3 and here racial verient skil lev 1 in order to use the bpo they purcheased and guess what they never broke the game so having a proto suit dont mean you dont need any sp to wear it you still need the skills your just buying the right to have infenite of them so you can spend your isk on other things

5. Orbital strikes. FAR too often. It's obscene. Maybe one per match, ok. When one guy can call 4 of them in one match, that's BS.

Wait are you saying that having proto-BPO wouldn't be unbalancing? That would be like giving a character 100isk that they can spend over and over again without it going away. If you think proto-stomping is bad now imagine how bad it would be if people weren't worried about loosing their high level gear. It is clear that with no penalty to doing so (cost being the current penalty) even more people would run full proto all the time, making the game even less hospitable to new players.

The Raven and Sever suits are basic level suits, meaning they already have a very low cost (thus a small financial risk associated with them). The same is true with the BPO LAV. These items were a slight advantage to players during the earliest part of Chromosome when all of us had our SP reset to 0 but have not been a factor for a long time. Most of us with the BPO suits don't even run them anymore since they are so much weaker than our other suits. These BPOs are not unbalancing the game because they are not particularly effective and do not confer a large financial bonus to the players using them. This would not be true for BPO proto gear.

Really, before you get on and start ranting think through what you're proposing. Proto-BPOs are about as good on an idea as bottle rockets on a birthday cake. Sure it sounds cool in the abstract, and you know a video of it on youtube is going to be a pisser but the reality is that your going to light the birthday girl's house and dress on fire with your stupid "super candles."

Lets just keep BPO where they are currently, down at the basic level where they have no significant influence on the financial systems CCP is developing for the game.

okay and what happens when eve players send there dust characters isk you can make easy 2 mill in the time it takes to do one ambush on eve just messing around and doing nothing serious now at 200k isk reward means in that ambush you just made 2.2 mill isk and guess what that means at 150k a proto suit you could lose 10 proto suits and not even care

yes eve will be connected with dust and giving players the option to buy a proto bpo will be the same thing as just hoping on eve and just sending free isk over course hey you can buy a plex and sell it in jita for 500+ mill or planetary interaction where you get free isk every day and nothing stoping them from sending it all to your dust character and not have to worry about proto suit for a few months oh but that isnt gonna be buy to win

the idea of giving players the option to buy prototype and advanced gear needs to be in the game as it will be the only thing that can compete with the direction dust will be heading but all i see is people saying its buy to win there is no difference expecially if they give the option to f2p accounts on eve to transfer isk to dust then nothing will be there to stop them from making mass acounts to send isk over will just be a matter of time where you can just buy dust accounts with max isk and skills to go with it

welcome to the future of dust 514