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Skipper Jones
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Posted - 2013.08.03 17:51:00 -
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Let me interpret this for you guys.
"I'm tired of dying to people who use isk! I want this game to be pay2win!
I am a great FPS player and the only reason I'm dying is because it's not pay2win. You fools! I'm better than you. I do not deserve to die. My gun should have gold enchanted bullets that set ablaze anyone that get hit by them. CCP you bow to me! Give me what I want."
Now, anyone that has seen my previous post will know I've never said this. It hurts me to say.....
HTFU (ugh) |
Skipper Jones
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Posted - 2013.08.04 08:31:00 -
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excillon wrote:
To clarify, I'm not a noob, I played this since the Beta launched, and used the ISK items, so I clearly understand both sides of the argument. I just think there should be better BPO gear, and more of it.
You obviously don't understand both sides if you're saying " I just think there should be better BPO gear, and more of it"
BPOs are where they need to be and they don't need anymore. You may say it's not pay2win because there is an isk variant but still. Even though there is an isk variant of everything doesn't eliminate the pay2win argument.
IF Mr. Moneybags comes into the game, he should be able to buy prototype, Adv gear (that are unlimited. keep that in mind) with real money. People with money can just buy all the unlimited gear they want. (It also comes at an earlier level).
More and better aurum gear will just cross that line of pay2win. It will only hurt the game. |
Skipper Jones
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Posted - 2013.08.04 08:36:00 -
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excillon wrote:I have a few problems:
1. Packs need better BPO's. Yeah, I know, it's frowned upon by most. But you know what? If people spend their real world money, they deserve an advantage. Any BPO should trump and ISK weapon. I don't care about the whole "risk is the point game". Maybe I like the game, the premise, and don't feel like risking. And so what if I have the money to spend on a nicer gun or suit BPO and someone else doesn't, that's their problem. Sorry, but that's how the world works, some have, and some don't. BPO's aren't wrecking the game, because at least those of us that buy them are actually contributing to the developers. The BPO's shouldn't just be more, but better. FAR better and FAR more. There's no reason why a Kaalotika (or whatever it's called) should be better than a covenant rifle for example.
2. I'm sick of Iron sights. Why can't I have an A-cog scope to stick on my Toxin AR? Preferably a BPO module.
3. The range on the shotgun is ridiculously high. I regularly get hit from far off distances with it, and that shouldn't happen. Same with Mass Drivers, I just played a match where either someone had rapid fire, or that firing rate needs to be seriously slowed down. I didn't get killed, but watched 4 of my teammates basically get sniped with one, in very quick succession.
4. Where is the armory and user marketplace we keep hearing is coming? If I want to share my equipment with my corp, I should be able to.
5. Orbital strikes. FAR too often. It's obscene. Maybe one per match, ok. When one guy can call 4 of them in one match, that's BS.
6. Guys that sit there and camp in insanely high places. There needs to be map limits not just on boundaries on the ground, but up on buildings as well.
7. More BPO's. At least one BPO for every class of suits, weapons, modules, vehicle, etc.
8. Separate the PC users, and if possible, move sharpshooter users. Both have an unfair advantage over DS3 users. I'm not saying kick them off the game, but make it so they play each other without interacting with DS3 people.
Overall, I like this game. And it may sound like a lot of griping, but I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels this way. Everyone has the right to their own opinion, and I respect that. However, for a game that's supposed to cater to people with multiple opinions (BPO's vs. consumables, etc.) it doesn't seem to.
I'll be nicer for you so you won't get offended.
1. I've said my point.... NO
2. Soon.
3.Ummm. Your AR should be the only gun that can pick people at range...
4.Soon.
5 OBs aren't easy to get buddy. Any random bob or kate can't just throw down an orbital. If a squad gets one. They deserve it
6.Makes the game more vertical therefore more interesting.
7. See first point
8. No |
Skipper Jones
Murder Cakes Of Doom
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Posted - 2013.08.04 08:38:00 -
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excillon wrote:Skipper Jones wrote:excillon wrote:
To clarify, I'm not a noob, I played this since the Beta launched, and used the ISK items, so I clearly understand both sides of the argument. I just think there should be better BPO gear, and more of it.
You obviously don't understand both sides if you're saying " I just think there should be better BPO gear, and more of it" BPOs are where they need to be and they don't need anymore. You may say it's not pay2win because there is an isk variant but still. Even though there is an isk variant of everything doesn't eliminate the pay2win argument. IF Mr. Moneybags comes into the game, he should be able to buy prototype, Adv gear (that are unlimited. keep that in mind) with real money. People with money can just buy all the unlimited gear they want. (It also comes at an earlier level). More and better aurum gear will just cross that line of pay2win. It will only hurt the game. But that's how eve works. Or haven't you heard about the 9000 dollar ship? And for the record, I think the prototype gear is kind of BS although I don't know much about it. I'm talking about like the Sever, Raven, Dragonfly, stuff like that.
Those BPOs are STD for money. BPOs shouldn't go above STD gear.
Did you hear about it blowing up? |
Skipper Jones
Murder Cakes Of Doom
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Posted - 2013.08.04 08:39:00 -
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excillon wrote:Skipper Jones wrote:excillon wrote:
To clarify, I'm not a noob, I played this since the Beta launched, and used the ISK items, so I clearly understand both sides of the argument. I just think there should be better BPO gear, and more of it.
You obviously don't understand both sides if you're saying " I just think there should be better BPO gear, and more of it" BPOs are where they need to be and they don't need anymore. You may say it's not pay2win because there is an isk variant but still. Even though there is an isk variant of everything doesn't eliminate the pay2win argument. IF Mr. Moneybags comes into the game, he should be able to buy prototype, Adv gear (that are unlimited. keep that in mind) with real money. People with money can just buy all the unlimited gear they want. (It also comes at an earlier level). More and better aurum gear will just cross that line of pay2win. It will only hurt the game. But that's how eve works. Or haven't you heard about the 9000 dollar ship? And for the record, I think the prototype gear is kind of BS although I don't know much about it. I'm talking about like the Sever, Raven, Dragonfly, stuff like that.
Edited post to SHOULDN'T instead of should.
my bad |
Skipper Jones
Murder Cakes Of Doom
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Posted - 2013.08.04 08:43:00 -
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excillon wrote:Skipper Jones wrote:excillon wrote:Skipper Jones wrote:excillon wrote:
To clarify, I'm not a noob, I played this since the Beta launched, and used the ISK items, so I clearly understand both sides of the argument. I just think there should be better BPO gear, and more of it.
You obviously don't understand both sides if you're saying " I just think there should be better BPO gear, and more of it" BPOs are where they need to be and they don't need anymore. You may say it's not pay2win because there is an isk variant but still. Even though there is an isk variant of everything doesn't eliminate the pay2win argument. IF Mr. Moneybags comes into the game, he should be able to buy prototype, Adv gear (that are unlimited. keep that in mind) with real money. People with money can just buy all the unlimited gear they want. (It also comes at an earlier level). More and better aurum gear will just cross that line of pay2win. It will only hurt the game. But that's how eve works. Or haven't you heard about the 9000 dollar ship? And for the record, I think the prototype gear is kind of BS although I don't know much about it. I'm talking about like the Sever, Raven, Dragonfly, stuff like that. Those BPOs are STD for money. BPOs should go above STD gear. Did you hear about it blowing up? Yeah, I laughed. Even a guy like me that buys BPO's thought 9000 is ridiculous. As for orbitals, I know it's work to get ONE. keyword: one. maybe two. Not four.
They worked for those 4. They aren't easy to get.
A squad with uplinks, nanohives, defend orders, organization, blah, blah..... They almost SHOULD get those OBs
The good thing is that your team can also get 4 OBs.  |
Skipper Jones
Murder Cakes Of Doom
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Posted - 2013.08.04 08:59:00 -
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excillon wrote:
True, I just think it should be limited. Like either multiple smaller strikes, or one great big one.
As for the BPO's, I own them all. The reason I do is because when the armory gets started, I want to be able to outfit the members of my corp in BPO gear. I plan on giving away everything except my Toxins, Raven suit, Covenant rifle and Dragonfly scout suit. Partially because I want to give my corp an advantage, but mostly because some of my members can't afford them. I'm not some BPO horder, I'm doing it for a reason. I'm lucky enough to be in a position to do so, I'm just upset at the lack of variety (although I can work with it) and most importantly not being able to share the gear that's sitting there collecting dust (no pun intended). I don't want to P2W, but I'm tired of seeing my corp, which is full of new members, getting slaughtered. I'm not even the corp leader. If CCP wants to draw more users, they need to fix this.
It would be cool to see multiple strikes though. Almost like a war point bank. Would you get 2 small strikes or one big one?
As far as your second note. It's not really something that needs fixed, (unless you're talking about newbies getting slaughtered. Then yes, it needs to be fixed) I don't know how the corp asset things is gonna work (If you can give BPOs) but I see what your doing. People are getting slaughtered so you want to help out with some BPOs because you can...  .
That's why BPOs are at the STD level. It gives people a good foothold to learn the game (While using unlimited gear. Therefore the won't have to worry about restocking.). BPOs aren't bad. they just make it so if you have the money, then you can use some OK unlimited gear. Or grind out for GOOD restockable gear.
I think what you REALLY want is the ability to trade items. You have the money to give players BPOs and you want to give your guys Good BPOs instead of OK ones. |
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