DUST Search - I'm tired of getting ripped off on a free game

excillon wrote:

I have a few problems:

1. Packs need better BPO's. Yeah, I know, it's frowned upon by most. But you know what? If people spend their real world money, they deserve an advantage. Any BPO should trump and ISK weapon. I don't care about the whole "risk is the point game". Maybe I like the game, the premise, and don't feel like risking. And so what if I have the money to spend on a nicer gun or suit BPO and someone else doesn't, that's their problem. Sorry, but that's how the world works, some have, and some don't. BPO's aren't wrecking the game, because at least those of us that buy them are actually contributing to the developers. The BPO's shouldn't just be more, but better. FAR better and FAR more. There's no reason why a Kaalotika (or whatever it's called) should be better than a covenant rifle for example.

2. I'm sick of Iron sights. Why can't I have an A-cog scope to stick on my Toxin AR? Preferably a BPO module.

3. The range on the shotgun is ridiculously high. I regularly get hit from far off distances with it, and that shouldn't happen. Same with Mass Drivers, I just played a match where either someone had rapid fire, or that firing rate needs to be seriously slowed down. I didn't get killed, but watched 4 of my teammates basically get sniped with one, in very quick succession.

4. Where is the armory and user marketplace we keep hearing is coming? If I want to share my equipment with my corp, I should be able to.

5. Orbital strikes. FAR too often. It's obscene. Maybe one per match, ok. When one guy can call 4 of them in one match, that's BS.

6. Guys that sit there and camp in insanely high places. There needs to be map limits not just on boundaries on the ground, but up on buildings as well.

7. More BPO's. At least one BPO for every class of suits, weapons, modules, vehicle, etc.

8. Separate the PC users, and if possible, move sharpshooter users. Both have an unfair advantage over DS3 users. I'm not saying kick them off the game, but make it so they play each other without interacting with DS3 people.

Overall, I like this game. And it may sound like a lot of griping, but I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels this way. Everyone has the right to their own opinion, and I respect that. However, for a game that's supposed to cater to people with multiple opinions (BPO's vs. consumables, etc.) it doesn't seem to.

Pages: [1] 2 3 4 :: one page

Author	Thread Statistics \| Show CCP posts - 0 post(s)
excillon united we stand x 0	Posted - 2013.08.03 09:06:00 - [1] - Quote I have a few problems: 1. Packs need better BPO's. Yeah, I know, it's frowned upon by most. But you know what? If people spend their real world money, they deserve an advantage. Any BPO should trump and ISK weapon. I don't care about the whole "risk is the point game". Maybe I like the game, the premise, and don't feel like risking. And so what if I have the money to spend on a nicer gun or suit BPO and someone else doesn't, that's their problem. Sorry, but that's how the world works, some have, and some don't. BPO's aren't wrecking the game, because at least those of us that buy them are actually contributing to the developers. The BPO's shouldn't just be more, but better. FAR better and FAR more. There's no reason why a Kaalotika (or whatever it's called) should be better than a covenant rifle for example. 2. I'm sick of Iron sights. Why can't I have an A-cog scope to stick on my Toxin AR? Preferably a BPO module. 3. The range on the shotgun is ridiculously high. I regularly get hit from far off distances with it, and that shouldn't happen. 4. Where is the armory and user marketplace we keep hearing is coming? If I want to share my equipment with my corp, I should be able to. 5. Orbital strikes. FAR too often. It's obscene. Maybe one per match, ok. When one guy can call 4 of them in one match, that's BS. 6. Guys that sit there and camp in insanely high places. There needs to be map limits not just on boundaries on the ground, but up on buildings as well. 7. More BPO's. At least one BPO for every class of suits, weapons, modules, vehicle, etc. 8. Separate the PC users, and if possible, move sharpshooter users. Both have an unfair advantage over DS3 users. I'm not saying kick them off the game, but make it so they play each other without interacting with DS3 people. Overall, I like this game. And it may sound like a lot of griping, but I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels this way. Everyone has the right to their own opinion, and I respect that. However, for a game that's supposed to cater to people with multiple opinions (BPO's vs. consumables, etc.) it doesn't seem to.
Karl Koekwaus Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 146	Posted - 2013.08.03 09:38:00 - [2] - Quote So you're basically saying "I like the game", except I don't like the mechanics, the weapons, the setting and the vision behind it? Then you go off and try to make a point by saying that the game "cater(s) to people with multiple opinions", while trying to push your opinion of how it should be Pay2Win, because that's how you want it to be. It would've been more concise if you just said you don't like the game, since it appears you don't like more than you like about it. If you want to throw money at something and win sometimes, might I suggest a slot machine. You won't get back as much as you throw in, but you'll occasionally win a token amount back to keep you playing longer.
TheEnd762 SVER True Blood 138	Posted - 2013.08.03 09:39:00 - [3] - Quote 1. No. 2. No. 3. No. 4. Yeah, okay. 5. No. 6. HELL NO. 7. No. 8. No. Overall I give your post, effort, and existence an F. Move along.
ALPHA DECRIPTER M.E.R.C. Conventional Forces D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 204	Posted - 2013.08.03 09:51:00 - [4] - Quote CCP already said that they don't want AUR items to be better then ISK items. It was one of there selling points actually, and the main reason why I play the game. To make AUR items better then ISK items would make the game P2W and that would cause CCP to lose over half it's player base. This would actually include some players that pay for AUR items. CCP wants to bring more players into the game, not push the majority away. 4 is on it's way. The one thing you must learn when dealing with CCP is patience. Those that have it will enjoy the game a lot longer. `Sigh. Just another fun game of DUST .
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 986	Posted - 2013.08.03 10:13:00 - [5] - Quote Hey OP.... HTFU!
Beeeees KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 69	Posted - 2013.08.03 12:56:00 - [6] - Quote Pathetic self entitled child. Your daddy should get the advantage in the game, since he is the one paying for AUR on your account.
Captain Wontubulous Nova Corps Marines Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 75	Posted - 2013.08.03 15:27:00 - [7] - Quote This is insanely pathetic. None of this is accurate or even remotely thought out.
Buster Friently Rosen Association 1435	Posted - 2013.08.03 15:31:00 - [8] - Quote To me, and yes I'm going to say it, this sounds like yet another AR user complaining that he can't kill everything all the time with his trusty AR. Well, OP, we're pretty close to the point where you can.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 3497	Posted - 2013.08.03 15:42:00 - [9] - Quote The market will come. The problem is Eve Online. DUST's market will merge with the Eve market. Eve Online has an economy and market that is so complex, yet so successful, that Guild Wars II tried to adopt the system. Eve's economy is considered to be the most robust and the most stable in the entire mmo industry.
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 855	Posted - 2013.08.03 15:43:00 - [10] - Quote Is this kid for real? This has got to be a troll.

low genius the sound of freedom Renegade Alliance 246	Posted - 2013.08.03 15:46:00 - [11] - Quote excillon wrote: I have a few problems: 1. Packs need better BPO's. Yeah, I know, it's frowned upon by most. But you know what? If people spend their real world money, they deserve an advantage. Any BPO should trump and ISK weapon. I don't care about the whole "risk is the point game". Maybe I like the game, the premise, and don't feel like risking. And so what if I have the money to spend on a nicer gun or suit BPO and someone else doesn't, that's their problem. Sorry, but that's how the world works, some have, and some don't. BPO's aren't wrecking the game, because at least those of us that buy them are actually contributing to the developers. The BPO's shouldn't just be more, but better. FAR better and FAR more. There's no reason why a Kaalotika (or whatever it's called) should be better than a covenant rifle for example. 2. I'm sick of Iron sights. Why can't I have an A-cog scope to stick on my Toxin AR? Preferably a BPO module. 3. The range on the shotgun is ridiculously high. I regularly get hit from far off distances with it, and that shouldn't happen. Same with Mass Drivers, I just played a match where either someone had rapid fire, or that firing rate needs to be seriously slowed down. I didn't get killed, but watched 4 of my teammates basically get sniped with one, in very quick succession. 4. Where is the armory and user marketplace we keep hearing is coming? If I want to share my equipment with my corp, I should be able to. 5. Orbital strikes. FAR too often. It's obscene. Maybe one per match, ok. When one guy can call 4 of them in one match, that's BS. 6. Guys that sit there and camp in insanely high places. There needs to be map limits not just on boundaries on the ground, but up on buildings as well. 7. More BPO's. At least one BPO for every class of suits, weapons, modules, vehicle, etc. 8. Separate the PC users, and if possible, move sharpshooter users. Both have an unfair advantage over DS3 users. I'm not saying kick them off the game, but make it so they play each other without interacting with DS3 people. Overall, I like this game. And it may sound like a lot of griping, but I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels this way. Everyone has the right to their own opinion, and I respect that. However, for a game that's supposed to cater to people with multiple opinions (BPO's vs. consumables, etc.) it doesn't seem to. maybe try getting better at the game? you're complaining about the money you chose to spend? foolish.
Hecarim Van Hohen Bullet Cluster 96	Posted - 2013.08.03 15:50:00 - [12] - Quote excillon wrote: I have a few problems: 1. Packs need better BPO's. Yeah, I know, it's frowned upon by most. But you know what? If people spend their real world money, they deserve an advantage. Any BPO should trump and ISK weapon. I don't care about the whole "risk is the point game". Maybe I like the game, the premise, and don't feel like risking. And so what if I have the money to spend on a nicer gun or suit BPO and someone else doesn't, that's their problem. Sorry, but that's how the world works, some have, and some don't. BPO's aren't wrecking the game, because at least those of us that buy them are actually contributing to the developers. The BPO's shouldn't just be more, but better. FAR better and FAR more. There's no reason why a Kaalotika (or whatever it's called) should be better than a covenant rifle for example. 2. I'm sick of Iron sights. Why can't I have an A-cog scope to stick on my Toxin AR? Preferably a BPO module. 3. The range on the shotgun is ridiculously high. I regularly get hit from far off distances with it, and that shouldn't happen. Same with Mass Drivers, I just played a match where either someone had rapid fire, or that firing rate needs to be seriously slowed down. I didn't get killed, but watched 4 of my teammates basically get sniped with one, in very quick succession. 4. Where is the armory and user marketplace we keep hearing is coming? If I want to share my equipment with my corp, I should be able to. 5. Orbital strikes. FAR too often. It's obscene. Maybe one per match, ok. When one guy can call 4 of them in one match, that's BS. 6. Guys that sit there and camp in insanely high places. There needs to be map limits not just on boundaries on the ground, but up on buildings as well. 7. More BPO's. At least one BPO for every class of suits, weapons, modules, vehicle, etc. 8. Separate the PC users, and if possible, move sharpshooter users. Both have an unfair advantage over DS3 users. I'm not saying kick them off the game, but make it so they play each other without interacting with DS3 people. Overall, I like this game. And it may sound like a lot of griping, but I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels this way. Everyone has the right to their own opinion, and I respect that. However, for a game that's supposed to cater to people with multiple opinions (BPO's vs. consumables, etc.) it doesn't seem to. 1. P2W much? 2. It's coming SoonGäó, have some patience as they have more important stuff to do atm 3. I usually die to a shotgun when I'm being stupid or I get ambushed, both cases are cool with me so no, shotty is ok imo. 4. It's coming SoonGäó, have some patience as they have more important stuff to do atm 5. Damn, that's a lot of wp, heard rumors of a possible glitch, waiting for confirmation on that. 6. There are sniper rifles you can use to deal with them or you can just avoid open ground or prevent them from getting there with a swarm launcher :) 7. Actually this might be on the roadmap, but have some patience as they have more important stuff to do atm 8. PC users = mouse and keyboard users? If so then no, they should stay here with us DS3 guys, and this is the first time someone referred move sharpshooter as an advantage :D About BPO's, I'm assuming (yes, I know it's bad but...) that they will work like they do in EVE so they might not be all that "free" then Have a pleasant day :)
FLAYLOCK Steve Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 50	Posted - 2013.08.03 16:20:00 - [13] - Quote The only thing I do agree in is more bpos. Basically every merc pack have the same suit just different color. (I own all three packs.) 1. Eh kinda agree. Need more bpos but don't make them as strong as isk gear. I hate p2w even though I can afford it. 2. It's not cod or bf. 3. Shotguns suck really bad atm. Since the hit detection is bugged the shotgun sometimes shoots blanks. And it doesn't have a lot of range. The fk? Half the time I kill someone with them by the time they figure out it was a sg that kill them I'm far away maybe that's why you think they have to much range.? As for mass drivers trust me it's far from op kid. Get good, know the gun and it's disadvantages. I know them. I have most of the guns :). 4.dk 5.OB Strikes are not bugged. It my sqaud just play smart. We kill vehicles. We kill installations and kill people. I've gotten 4 ob strikes many times. Did I mention vehicle kill assist :). We use drop up links etc anything to get points. Try that noob. 6. I don't really have a problem with campers. It makes me more alert so be careful for snipers. 7. I agree. More bpo please but quit nerfing **** ccp fail at that. 8. Seriously? Lol do I hear a nerf mouse and keyboard cry? Pathetic Get good noob lol.
Cass Caul Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 25	Posted - 2013.08.03 16:36:00 - [14] - Quote Yeah, kinda lame that my Dragonfly Assault and Covenant Assault are the exact same. Sure If I was spec'd into Gallente Assault or Caldari Assault then I'd get the bonuses applied, but I don't. Pretty sure Dren Assault is also the same, but didn't shell out the 100 bucks for it.
Demon Buddah The Phoenix Federation 48	Posted - 2013.08.03 16:46:00 - [15] - Quote So I read the first one and stopped. This isn't pay to win noob. Risk is what makes this game unique compare to other shooters. Risk makes this game more of a challenge. You think just because you can pay for stuff with real money you should get an advantage? Seriously man. You don't like it GTFO Dust doesn't need people like you. You're going to complain about risk you'll never survive in New Eden. If everyone had BPO for higher stuff then what would be the point in using ISK items? it's a free game too, and by free it's actually free. Don't expect to win just because you pay with real money. That's not how this game is going to be, and it shouldn't be that way either.
FLAYLOCK Steve Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 51	Posted - 2013.08.03 17:42:00 - [16] - Quote Cass Caul wrote: Yeah, kinda lame that my Dragonfly Assault and Covenant Assault the exact same. Sure If I was spec'd into Gallente Assault or Caldari Assault then I'd get the bonuses applied, but I don't. Pretty sure Dren Assault is also the same, but didn't shell out the 100 bucks for it. I believe you do get the racial bonus. I own every merc pack but from whst i understand it's a bpo suit that requires no skills but also you get the bonus because it is not a basic frame suit.
Skipper Jones Murder Cakes Of Doom 573	Posted - 2013.08.03 17:51:00 - [17] - Quote Let me interpret this for you guys. "I'm tired of dying to people who use isk! I want this game to be pay2win! I am a great FPS player and the only reason I'm dying is because it's not pay2win. You fools! I'm better than you. I do not deserve to die. My gun should have gold enchanted bullets that set ablaze anyone that get hit by them. CCP you bow to me! Give me what I want." Now, anyone that has seen my previous post will know I've never said this. It hurts me to say..... HTFU (ugh)
ADAM-OF-EVE Svartur Bjorn 165	Posted - 2013.08.03 21:19:00 - [18] - Quote lol.. nuf said
Lurchasaurus SVER True Blood 890	Posted - 2013.08.03 21:42:00 - [19] - Quote excillon wrote: If people spend their real world money, they deserve an advantage. no
Mobius Wyvern BetaMax. 2861	Posted - 2013.08.03 21:54:00 - [20] - Quote excillon wrote: Any BPO should trump and ISK weapon. So you're obviously ******* mental. I mean, people are STILL posting threads about "pay-to-win" after all this time, and you are literally arguing that the game isn't good because you can't "pay-to-win"?

Lightning Bolt2 DUST University Ivy League 89	Posted - 2013.08.03 21:56:00 - [21] - Quote another P2W thread... there's been way to many already, besides BPOs are already a good adv, you get more ISK than those without BPOs.
Cat Merc BetaMax. 3800	Posted - 2013.08.03 22:00:00 - [22] - Quote Obvious troll is obvious. Don't feed him.
Cyrille Fodeux DUST University Ivy League 46	Posted - 2013.08.03 22:07:00 - [23] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: The market will come. The problem is Eve Online. DUST's market will merge with the Eve market. Eve Online has an economy and market that is so complex, yet so successful, that Guild Wars II tried to adopt the system. Eve's economy is considered to be the most robust and the most stable in the entire mmo industry. It-¦s so complex my geopraphy teacher even referred to it as the best example for a free enterprise economy.
The dark cloud Intara Direct Action Caldari State 1816	Posted - 2013.08.03 22:10:00 - [24] - Quote TL;DR I WANT PAY TO WIN. NOOBS WITH ISK GUNS KEEP KILLING ME! P2W NOW CCP OR I QUIT THE GAME. WAAH! WAAAH!
Dog Merc Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic 2	Posted - 2013.08.03 22:56:00 - [25] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Obvious troll is obvious. Don't feed him. Obvious cat is obvious. Grr! BTW, I declare this thread is about whipped cream. Mmmmm....
Dog Merc Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic 2	Posted - 2013.08.03 22:57:00 - [26] - Quote Cyrille Fodeux wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: The market will come. The problem is Eve Online. DUST's market will merge with the Eve market. Eve Online has an economy and market that is so complex, yet so successful, that Guild Wars II tried to adopt the system. Eve's economy is considered to be the most robust and the most stable in the entire mmo industry. It-¦s so complex my geopraphy teacher even referred to it as the best example for a free enterprise economy. You joking? Lulz. So many lulz.
D legendary hero THE WARRIORS OF LEGEND 548	Posted - 2013.08.04 00:06:00 - [27] - Quote BPOs work great right now. you wast zero isk, and they are pretty dang effective.
CLONE117 Planetary Response Organization Test Friends Please Ignore 54	Posted - 2013.08.04 00:29:00 - [28] - Quote mass driver does need a reduction in rof.. it fires to fast for a nade launcher...
excillon united we stand x 1	Posted - 2013.08.04 07:49:00 - [29] - Quote Beeeees wrote: Pathetic self entitled child. Your daddy should get the advantage in the game, since he is the one paying for AUR on your account. Uh, no. I happen to be a very financially well off adult. Nice try though. Now, if you're done insulting my opinion instead of discussing it, move on.
excillon united we stand x 1	Posted - 2013.08.04 07:58:00 - [30] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Obvious troll is obvious. Don't feed him. A troll no. Just someone with an opinion that differs from the majority of others. I'm not alone, either. There's more of us than you think. So how does that make me a troll? Last I checked, I have a right to express it. You don't like it, or want to debate it, then why don't you just stay out of it. You hate a guy in real life, because he has a nicer car than you? Or a bigger house? No, you don't. I don't want to pay to win, I just want a better deal for what I pay for. So because I'm not some broke college kid gamer, and I want to buy my weapons, that makes me a troll? Am I everything that's wrong with dust then? Because as I mentioned in the original post, I'm actually contributing to developing this game by helping pay these developers salaries. You're playing this game, in part, because of people in EVE, and people like me that spend money and don't freeload. I brought this up to discuss it. If you have a different view, so be it. I respect that. Now you respect mine: If you're not here to discuss what I mentioned INTELLIGENTLY, then why don't you just do me a favor and **** off? Is that simple enough of a reply for you?



Pages: [1] 2 3 4 :: one page
First page \| Previous page \| Next page \| Last page