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Exmaple Core
Ancient Exiles Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.08.03 06:04:00 -
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Im not saying that its OP, but i do think that it is the single, most devastating weapon in dust. You can kill anyone with it at all ranges, especially when your above them wich you can pretty much always do. Can kill the best tanks in one clip and one shot anyone you look at. Has the splash damage to allow som near misses and single handedly hold an objective were a tank can not. Again, not saying its OP but imo its pretty much the best gun to use because its so brutally effective at well, everything and the weakness it has at point blank is easily avoidable with a dropship or latter. Whatchya think? |
RA Drahcir
Psygod9 RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.08.03 06:08:00 -
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the spamming of forge gunners is only going to get it nerfed, and vehicles are going to reign supreme. it is the circle of QQ. |
Heimdallr69
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.08.03 06:09:00 -
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Yeah its pretty good but I havnt used one since closed beta so I can't commit if I think its op or not |
Yeva Kalsani
Reckoners
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Posted - 2013.08.03 06:09:00 -
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Exmaple Core wrote:the weakness it has at point blank Weakness? What weakness?
I am a Forge Gunner and I demand answers.
*FG charging sound* |
Cat Merc
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2013.08.03 06:09:00 -
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RA Drahcir wrote:the spamming of forge gunners is only going to get it nerfed, and vehicles are going to reign supreme. it is the circle of QQ. Someone should make a video: "The vicious circle of QQ" In it, the buffs and nerfs all throughout Dust's history. |
Exmaple Core
Ancient Exiles Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.08.03 06:11:00 -
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Yeva Kalsani wrote:Exmaple Core wrote:the weakness it has at point blank Weakness? What weakness? I am a Forge Gunner and I demand answers. *FG charging sound*
its not particualry weak at point blank bcuz the forge gunner can splash his victim to death or line up an easier point blank OHK shot. but admitively it is harder to win at point blank for the FG
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Exmaple Core
Ancient Exiles Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.08.03 06:12:00 -
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Yeva Kalsani wrote:Exmaple Core wrote:the weakness it has at point blank Weakness? What weakness? I am a Forge Gunner and I demand answers. *FG charging sound* but thats also precisely my point. It is litterally the best weapon of all dust |
Yeva Kalsani
Reckoners
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Posted - 2013.08.03 06:13:00 -
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Also, it's a good port-a-cooker in the field. Eggs, sunny side up, and bacon, in no time.
Damn straight it's the best weapon. |
Rogatien Merc
Red Star. EoN.
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Posted - 2013.08.03 06:15:00 -
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The real limitations are based on the suit. Lack of mobility, reliance on supply depots or logistics with nanohives which gives it a team-oriented edge. Reload time and small clip I think are a good balance for the range and damage potential... but yeah the thing rocks |
RA Drahcir
Psygod9 RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.08.03 06:17:00 -
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someone really needs to do a parody of the Lion King with the circle of QQ/nerf, whatever you can make work. "what about the shadowy place there?" "those are where the laser rifles, faglocks, and callogiASSfucks are, Simba, you must never spec into anything but the AR." |
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Exmaple Core
Ancient Exiles Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.08.03 06:22:00 -
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Rogatien Merc wrote:The real limitations are based on the suit. Lack of mobility, reliance on supply depots or logistics with nanohives which gives it a team-oriented edge. Reload time and small clip I think are a good balance for the range and damage potential... but yeah the thing rocks interesting answer right here. You say there is a scene of balance to the forge gun and agree that it is indeed that it is the best weapon in dust. But how can a weapon be balanced if it IS the best weapon in dust? |
Rogatien Merc
Red Star. EoN.
574
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Posted - 2013.08.03 06:30:00 -
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Exmaple Core wrote:Rogatien Merc wrote:The real limitations are based on the suit. Lack of mobility, reliance on supply depots or logistics with nanohives which gives it a team-oriented edge. Reload time and small clip I think are a good balance for the range and damage potential... but yeah the thing rocks interesting answer right here. You say there is a scene of balance to the forge gun and agree that it is indeed the best weapon in dust. But how can a weapon be balanced if it IS the best weapon in dust? Sorry if I wasn't clear; didn't mean to agree it is 'the best weapon in dust'. I think it is decently balanced. My saying it rocks means that it is good and fun, but I find it situational and that the mobility of the heavy is a limfac. Being a low ROF high alpha weapon it is less forgiving for the majority of the playerbase as well, limiting realistic DPS for most users. It is good, I don't think it is OP. |
Leovarian L Lavitz
Opus Arcana Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.08.03 06:34:00 -
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Exmaple Core wrote:Rogatien Merc wrote:The real limitations are based on the suit. Lack of mobility, reliance on supply depots or logistics with nanohives which gives it a team-oriented edge. Reload time and small clip I think are a good balance for the range and damage potential... but yeah the thing rocks interesting answer right here. You say there is a scene of balance to the forge gun and agree that it is indeed the best weapon in dust. But how can a weapon be balanced if it IS the best weapon in dust? Squad of forge gunners vrs squad of ARs Forge gunners are slow, ARs probably beat them to objectives Forge gunners typically require more tactical positioning to be effective. (up on the pipes, etc) preventing them from taking objectives. A squad of forge-gunners cannot resupply themselves, and cannot drop uplinks. They have no equipment. A squad of forge-gunners are very vulnerable to flux+weapon and will have trouble making a tactical retreat. Most of the forge gun's weaknesses come from the suit, though. The forge-gun's bullet has travel time. The forge-gun has limited ammo. |
Rogatien Merc
Red Star. EoN.
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Posted - 2013.08.03 06:36:00 -
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All that said, take the instance where a forge on a tower on a certain map can rule the battlefield and completely deny the objective to the enemy. But it takes significant coordination to keep that going: Logi to drop ups/hives, possibly a dedicated rep logi to mitigate sniper threat, a decent dropship/pilot to get you up there, the travel time involved with the logi not supporting other players. Things that are taken for granted, but a lot of coordination and effort goes into making that forge gunner 'work'. Which is rewarded in situational effectiveness. An opposing team using similar coordination can time 3x sniper shots simultaneously to take it out, which is balance. Just not 1 for 1 "simple" balance ... but now I'm just rambling. |
Rusty Shallows
Black Jackals
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Posted - 2013.08.03 06:51:00 -
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RA Drahcir wrote:the spamming of forge gunners is only going to get it nerfed, and vehicles are going to reign supreme. it is the circle of QQ. I'm buying extra tissues to share with the Mass Driver users. We won't share any with the Logi LAV drivers because everyone seems to hate them. |
Exmaple Core
Ancient Exiles Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.08.03 07:18:00 -
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Rogatien Merc wrote:All that said, take the instance where a forge on a tower on a certain map can rule the battlefield and completely deny the objective to the enemy. But it takes significant coordination to keep that going: Logi to drop ups/hives, possibly a dedicated rep logi to mitigate sniper threat, a decent dropship/pilot to get you up there, the travel time involved with the logi not supporting other players. Things that are taken for granted, but a lot of coordination and effort goes into making that forge gunner 'work'. Which is rewarded in situational effectiveness. An opposing team using similar coordination can time 3x sniper shots simultaneously to take it out, which is balance. Just not 1 for 1 "simple" balance ... but now I'm just rambling.
you make it look more complicated than it is. For Exmaple, in PC chicago cubs is often on top a far away building in citys, out of LOS and range from enemy snipers, weapons or tanks, and single handedly defends an objective by shooting its hackers. Gets up there by dropship with one dude who drops and uplink and a few repair hives and hops off cuz well, hes pretty set. One man holding down an entire team at an objective with an anti everything in dust cannon. Not saying its OP, jus saying its the best weapon in the game. Btw, much respec for chicago thats a brilliant tactic
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Shattered Mirage
The Enclave Syndicate Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2013.08.03 07:24:00 -
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-__- All this talk about the FG is gonna get it nerfed.... damn it. |
Nguruthos IX
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.08.03 07:26:00 -
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jack of all trades. Master of.. all? |
Exmaple Core
Ancient Exiles Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.08.03 07:29:00 -
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Nguruthos IX wrote:jack of all trades. Master of.. all?
i wouldent say master. But its prolly the best |
DJINN leukoplast
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.08.03 07:30:00 -
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I'm not sure, but it definitely is the most fun weapon I have used in a long time. Shame it's limited to my militia fatty suit (although with so much HP, it doesn't really matter that it's militia).
Gotta love the adv assault forge though, I had an absolute blast using it last night, one of the few times I really enjoyed myself in this game as of late. Finally getting revenge against vehicles that have terrorized me as an infantry player all this time with no real way to deal with them (until now ) |
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Shattered Mirage
The Enclave Syndicate Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2013.08.03 07:30:00 -
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Nguruthos IX wrote:jack of all trades. Master of.. all?
That is the Assault Rifle... |
XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.08.03 07:31:00 -
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commando with FG & HMG anyone?
dont we wish |
Exmaple Core
Ancient Exiles Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.08.03 07:34:00 -
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XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO wrote:commando with FG & HMG anyone?
dont we wish
wtf why would you do that? if the Kommando Rando suit had 2 heavy weapon slots, make it 2 forge guns |
Zatara Rought
TeamPlayers EoN.
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Posted - 2013.08.03 07:41:00 -
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Leovarian L Lavitz wrote:Exmaple Core wrote:Rogatien Merc wrote:The real limitations are based on the suit. Lack of mobility, reliance on supply depots or logistics with nanohives which gives it a team-oriented edge. Reload time and small clip I think are a good balance for the range and damage potential... but yeah the thing rocks interesting answer right here. You say there is a scene of balance to the forge gun and agree that it is indeed the best weapon in dust. But how can a weapon be balanced if it IS the best weapon in dust? Squad of forge gunners vrs squad of ARs Forge gunners are slow, ARs probably beat them to objectives Forge gunners typically require more tactical positioning to be effective. (up on the pipes, etc) preventing them from taking objectives. A squad of forge-gunners cannot resupply themselves, and cannot drop uplinks. They have no equipment. A squad of forge-gunners are very vulnerable to flux+weapon and will have trouble making a tactical retreat. Most of the forge gun's weaknesses come from the suit, though. The forge-gun's bullet has travel time. The forge-gun has limited ammo.
Best weapon of dust by itself, no.
But yeah cubs has done pretty well with his trusty forge up top, although you could spam drop ships or use a sniper to take him out..spamming the high towers with forges and snipers used to not happen often cause it took skill in chromosome with the flight ceiling to get to some of those high places, not anymore. Lots of fools do it in the pubs to fantastic success. |
LudiKure ninda
Trans Worlds Operations League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.08.03 07:43:00 -
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Im taking a **** on FG users |
Rusty Shallows
Black Jackals
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Posted - 2013.08.03 07:49:00 -
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Shattered Mirage wrote:-__- All this talk about the FG is gonna get it nerfed.... damn it. I was just poking fun. With anything related to CCP it generally helps to have a morbid sense of humor. Don't expect major changes to the FG anytime soon. |
Exmaple Core
Ancient Exiles Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.08.03 07:52:00 -
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Zatara Rought wrote:Leovarian L Lavitz wrote:Exmaple Core wrote:Rogatien Merc wrote:The real limitations are based on the suit. Lack of mobility, reliance on supply depots or logistics with nanohives which gives it a team-oriented edge. Reload time and small clip I think are a good balance for the range and damage potential... but yeah the thing rocks interesting answer right here. You say there is a scene of balance to the forge gun and agree that it is indeed the best weapon in dust. But how can a weapon be balanced if it IS the best weapon in dust? Squad of forge gunners vrs squad of ARs Forge gunners are slow, ARs probably beat them to objectives Forge gunners typically require more tactical positioning to be effective. (up on the pipes, etc) preventing them from taking objectives. A squad of forge-gunners cannot resupply themselves, and cannot drop uplinks. They have no equipment. A squad of forge-gunners are very vulnerable to flux+weapon and will have trouble making a tactical retreat. Most of the forge gun's weaknesses come from the suit, though. The forge-gun's bullet has travel time. The forge-gun has limited ammo. Best weapon of dust by itself, no. But yeah cubs has done pretty well with his trusty forge up top, although you could spam drop ships or use a sniper to take him out..spamming the high towers with forges and snipers used to not happen often cause it took skill in chromosome with the flight ceiling to get to some of those high places, not anymore. Lots of fools do it in the pubs to fantastic success.
yeahh he is pretty good with it. Its not hard to be good with the FG tho, its jus that good. But chicago, he is jus plain effective with that gun |
Shattered Mirage
The Enclave Syndicate Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2013.08.03 07:54:00 -
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[quotewe are constantly monitoring performance of each weapon and its variants on TQ and will react in case we see unusual performance spikes showing up that we are not comfortable with. ][/quote]
More people are gonna start skilling into FGs; increasing the performance as they eventually get better at it, causing a performance spike... |
Kekklian Noobatronic
Goonfeet Top Men.
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Posted - 2013.08.03 08:34:00 -
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Exmaple Core wrote:Im not saying that its OP, but i do think that it is the single, most devastating and overall most effective weapon in dust. You can kill anyone with it at all ranges, especially when your above them wich you can pretty much always do. Can kill the best tanks in one clip and one shot anyone you look at. Has the splash damage to allow some near misses and single handedly hold an objective were a tank can not. Again, not saying its OP but imo its pretty much the best gun to use because its so brutally effective at well, everything and the weakness it has at point blank is easily avoidable with a dropship or latter. Whatchya think?
QFT. |
Turtle Hermit Roshi
Famous.OTF Only The Famous
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Posted - 2013.08.03 08:35:00 -
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RA Drahcir wrote:someone really needs to do a parody of the Lion King with the circle of QQ/nerf, whatever you can make work. "what about the shadowy place there?" "those are where the laser rifles, faglocks, and callogiASSfucks are, Simba, you must never spec into anything but the AR."
well that is posibly the best thing on the internet |
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