hell no. Carbon engine on PS4 and new stuff is all it needs after (hopefully) 1.6.

CCP should work out a deal with SOE to make DUST 514 a modded Planetside 2 server.

I know what you're thinking.

Hear me out though:

Planetside 2 is a robust mixed arms game. It can handle linked facilities, shields, walls, gates, defenses, canyons, tunnels, open fields, air combat, vegetation... It has a lot of the pieces we all were expecting of DUST 514. Features in development include constructable defenses, orbital bombardments, continental conquest and a revamped resource system that makes wars of attrition meaningful. Those features are expected by the end of the year.

DUST 514 could be a fantastic high health, 4 (or even more!) faction mod of PS2 with tighter resources for special equipment and greater faction diversity. Without worrying about how to make aiming work or even how to design the netcode, they can just focus on their strengths - art and asymmetrical balancing.

Using the resources already in place, DUST can translate a lot of their themes using PS2 mechanics.

The "Forever War"

Faction Warfare takes place on 4 main planets at launch, 1 for each faction. These can be as large or small as CCP likes but I recommend at least PS2 continent sized. The alert code can be changed to trigger access to special areas such as asteroids, pirate bases or space stations and even maybe titans. I'm sure with just a little arm twisting these can actually be coded to trigger based on events in EVE, since SOE already has api code for exporting the results.

Interplanetary Travel Network

Instead of warping around the maps with the gates, you warp to warbarges. These act as VR rooms in space. If you want to travel to a new planet, you have to wait in the VR room to simulate "travel time". Use the code for crowded servers in a new way to make space travel feel meaningful. Fight clubs (with EVE betting possible with integrated twitch streaming in PS2) could also take place aboard the barges.

Veni, vidi, vici

SOE is delivering outfit capturing and continent conquest soon. Complete with redecoration and resource perks. This could very easily be small isolated areas outside of the "big 4", say around the size of the upcoming battle islands. To make the game less of a punch clock, they would only be accessible for small windows, not 24/7. So while there may be hundreds of planets to conquer, there are only a few hot spots at any given time. You can plan on sneak attacks, joint operations, backstabs to your heart's content but you have to fight to take it and win. It's likely you'll need to form coalitions since anyone can show up looking to snag your prize.

I would just copy PS2's progression, fitting, cosmetics, and monitization scheme wholesale; they are solid for a F2P fps. It would honestly take an essay to fully flesh out the translation, but I know it would be a better format for portraying the struggle of all out warfare, logistics, and tactics that meaningful gameplay can emerge from. Of course it's a pipe dream, but CCP should think long and hard about it. Instant simultaneous access to PS4 and PC, continual updates to the client provided by SOE, freedom to update their balance quickly and painlessly, and still maintain the freedom of creating a living universe and a decidedly "DUST 514" gameplay. Better yet, cross-pollination with current PS2 players and the EVE playerbase could bring that fresh market they were hoping for all along. SOE wins, CCP wins, the players wins. I wish it would be seriously considered.

No, Dust is not worthy, and SOE would be braindead to let CCP and Dust even have the remotest relationship with them. Give it up Noc, Dust is **** let it wither and die.

Delusional EVEtard alert.

***** please, have you seen what kind of pretty **** you can make on the Carbon engine?

I say CCP could learn from sony but don't copy this closely,
General ideas, Good
Copy and Paste from PS2, bad

CCP should work out a deal with SOE to make DUST 514 a modded Planetside 2 server.

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Better yet, cross-pollination with current PS2 players and the EVE playerbase could bring that fresh market they were hoping for all along. SOE wins, CCP wins, the players wins. I wish it would be seriously considered.

CCP lacked Sony's original ambitious vision of Planetside2.

For all the great talk from CCP what they -attempted- was very incomplete clone of BF2142 that they would then figure out how to duct tape to Eve Online while we all waited around (the five year plan).

After playing both Planetside2 and Dust514 I see zero benefit to most players spending time in the Eve universe.

Sony plans on making a space game as part of Planetside2.

That will be much more interesting then Eve Online.

I don't really care about space nerds and I want a real game that requires aim and flying. Sony will deliver that, Eve Online is stuck in 2002 MMO control schemes.

No benefit to actual game players to continue paying attention to Dust514. Come back in 18 months and compare it again to where Planetside2 got in the same period. I have a guess which will come out ahead.

I'll pay attention to what CCP does with Eve VR but if they are as vanilla as they were with Dust514 it will not be worth any attention.

It looks like you left a bit too soon. I played PS2 since beta as well and while both it and DUST 514 are night and day from their earliest builds, only one of the two has gotten better...

About the only feature DUST has that PS2 will never have is dynamic sharding. But I can live with that limitation for now. If DUST was a PS2 modded server they could certainly opt to go single shard.

EVE has not improved much except graphically over its long life and actually sitting down to attempt "fun" it shows.

...wow.

I'm not even going to dignify that last sentence with a response.

At the point where SOE enables continent locking, actual functioning warpgates, and player-owned bases like they've had marked as "unscheduled" on their fancy roadmap for months, I might consider reinstalling.

As for right now, I'm really not that interested in MMOBF3.

EVE is a boring game. People haven't fought over anything of significance in years. And that's the "epic" side of the scale.

BUT... that is no reason DUST 514 couldn't be an exciting game. Hence the suggestion in the OP.

Which you suggest is only possible by turning it into a Planetside 2 mod.

Yeah, okay.

Just like I said to Sir Eros, everybody has their own opinion, which is one of the beautiful things about being human.

Obviously there's a substantial number of people who don't find EVE boring. The key is making your own fun, rather than expecting the game to hand it to you.

Like hunting down <1 year mission-runners who don't pulse their D-scanners and jumping them with frigate fleets.

Or taking a wormhole 50 jumps out into hostile territory and seeing how many of the fleet survive the trip back.

Or getting 50 drunk people together in Rifters, flying up to Jita, and spamming "We are the 1%" and "Occupy Jita" until all the high-sec carebears ***** in the help channels and GM Aldali logs in and gives us 3-day gags in all public channels.

The reason I've never gotten "burned out" on EVE is because I never stick with the same thing for too long. I'm always trying something new, and that means it's always fresh.

In any case, it's 0300. I need sleep.

EVE has not improved much except graphically over its long life and actually sitting down to attempt "fun" it shows.

PS2 is a terrible game and it's even more boring than Dust.

I don't know why anyone would want anything to do with it.

PS2 is a terrible game and it's even more boring than Dust.

I don't know why anyone would want anything to do with it.

***** please, have you seen what kind of pretty **** you can make on the Carbon engine?

haha the Cry engine is better. Also it wont melt computers
Yet another CCP innovation amazing in theory and then utter crap in its actuality.

Really? My computer is just fine when I play eve... Even my **** laptop that has better specs than the PS3 plays eve just fine... Melts computers...Funny one...

How can you say something is better when you have no idea of the competing item?

CryEngine 3 is terrible for trying to run anything more than a 16-player lobby shooter.

Before you even try and call bullshit, why do you think that after anouncing MechWarrior Online as a 24 player game, they released it to Open Beta as a 16 player game, and are only now even testing 12v12?

I've had some experience with development on the CryEngine. It's very pretty, but it's far from perfect.