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Cy Clone1
Ancient Exiles Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.08.02 18:03:00 -
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What fitting do you use? I've recently speced into them, and I found that I prefer the python. the python is more maneuverable and you can use damage mods with out sacrificing defense imo. I can also fit three proto turrets on the python while with the inc I can only fit one. Although The incubus is much more defensive it seems quite restrictive. |
broonfondle majikthies
P.O.N.A.G.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2013.08.02 18:10:00 -
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shield extender, booster , 2 armour hardeners, engine upgrade, auto repair |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.08.02 18:12:00 -
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You don't ever want to fit 3 proto turrets on a dropship, too much PG and too much ISK for what you get. And if manuavebili is an issue put a couple of jovians on and a shield extender in the highs. Combine with a repper and whatever else your want and you have a rather manueaverable and decently tanked vehicle. |
Cy Clone1
Ancient Exiles Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.08.02 18:34:00 -
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so no 60mm plates? |
EternalRMG
ZionTCD
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Posted - 2013.08.02 18:39:00 -
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Use armour hardeners 1 plate 1 hardener 1rep 1 whatever you want
Afterburner MUST!!!! shield booster/passive hardener/extender |
Texs Red
SVER True Blood
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Posted - 2013.08.02 18:45:00 -
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Low: 60mm poly plate IGL armor rep Local PG extender 10% missile damage amp
High: Active scanner Afterburner
Turrets: XT Missile turret x3
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broonfondle majikthies
P.O.N.A.G.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2013.08.02 18:49:00 -
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Cy Clone1 wrote:so no 60mm plates? If it works for you by all means carry on, I use one sometimes, but I feel the ADS bonus is designed to encourage you to go light for the extra manoeuvrability. Its a hard balance for speed vs HP at times
and as already stated afterburners are also favourable - Forge guns / railguns really knock you about
The incubus is at a disadvantage currently, you have to play to your strengths and your playstyle |
Hunter Fencen
ROGUE SPADES EoN.
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Posted - 2013.08.02 18:54:00 -
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I found that a rather good setup if you have a good turretier. 1 f45 mod 1 wavelength scanner 1 local grid 2 60mm plates 1 repper I can fit adv rockets and a stabalised. Sweet fit |
Cy Clone1
Ancient Exiles Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.08.02 19:13:00 -
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thanks for the fits. |
EternalRMG
ZionTCD
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Posted - 2013.08.02 19:44:00 -
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If you want a corp battle fit YOU HAVE TO HAVE ARMOR HARDENERS Best module for armor Long duration 30 or 60 secs and short cooldown 15 secs
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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
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Posted - 2013.08.02 19:56:00 -
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Hardeners really are a must, some people use two so they can always be mod cycling while others use 1 and a plate.
You could use a light shield rep, but they are kind of awful. |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.08.02 19:59:00 -
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EternalRMG wrote: If you want a corp battle fit YOU HAVE TO HAVE ARMOR HARDENERS Best module for armor Long duration 30 or 60 secs and short cooldown 15 secs
This, if you want a fit that can tank hardeners are a must, putting passive amps in the high can make for an effective buffer as well. Also a tip you may not know, supply depots repair your armour, if for whatever reason you don't have a repper on you a supply depot can be a lifesaver, it's also useful for topping your armour up when you don't want to put a module into cool down. |
Moochie Cricket
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
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Posted - 2013.08.02 20:50:00 -
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Python is better if you can master it |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
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Posted - 2013.08.02 21:33:00 -
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Mine is expensive garbage, but you can't go wrong with an afterburner. Just turn it on and rocket to safety. |
THEAMAZING POTHEAD
Pure Innocence. EoN.
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Posted - 2013.08.02 22:11:00 -
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defense is the primary goal with all vehicles, that being said your low slots should be a 60 mm plate, a light repper, an active hardener and a passive hardener, speed is secondary because it doesn't matter much if a wirkomi breach FG can one shot you. high slots dont matter much but if you can fit a shield extender and hardener, do it. all of your modules should be designed to make your ship as tanky as possible. right now ion cannons are great for takin down infantry and LAVs, but if you want to take down tanks or other incubus's, equip an XT cycled missile launcher, side turrets should be ST missile launchers to save on cost and pg/cpu, and pythons are easy pray as you can simply ram them out of the air, your incubus surviving but the python dieing on impact |
Baal Roo
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.08.02 22:18:00 -
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Moochie Cricket wrote:Python is better if you can master it
100% disagree.
In my experience most newb pilots fly caldari, most vets fly gallente.
It's a bit easier to fit a Python for survival initially, but once you have a good grasp on the intricacies of piloting and can offset some of the drawback of the gallente ships through piloting skill, the incubus has the better fitting arrangement as far as specialization and versatility.
I'd give you guys my fittings, but considering how many pilots I consistenty destroy with my incubus I think I'd rather just watch the rest of you continue to struggle and drink in your sweet sweet tears. |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.08.02 22:43:00 -
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Baal Roo wrote:Moochie Cricket wrote:Python is better if you can master it 100% disagree. In my experience most newb pilots fly caldari, most vets fly gallente. It's a bit easier to fit a Python for survival initially, but once you have a good grasp on the intricacies of piloting and can offset some of the drawback of the gallente ships through piloting skill, the incubus has the better fitting arrangement as far as specialization and versatility. I'd give you guys my fittings, but considering how many pilots I consistenty destroy with my incubus I think I'd rather just watch the rest of you continue to struggle and drink in your sweet sweet tears. The incubus is much nicer to fit, that's very true. However running a passive resist speed fit ona python makes for a very effective hit and run platform, not to mention that the pythons mobility and shield tanking makes it the better dogfighting, I'm not saying that you can't win a dogfight in an incubus if your good enough but it is much, much harder.
The gallente however is much better suited to the ground support role due to its smoother handling, smaller amount of knock back from hits, and higher EHP. Both have their advantages and disadvantages.
Oh and for any python pilots, try out this fit, it's pretty suited to hit and runs.
High slots 2x ward shield amps 1x aziotropic extender 1x AB
Low slot 2x Jovian power plants
Turrets 1x accelerated missiles 2x std cycled missiles.
With my skills it runs a 33% resist, can take a forge gun shot and give you enough time to AB out of there. |
Moochie Cricket
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
406
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Posted - 2013.08.02 22:49:00 -
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Baal Roo wrote:Moochie Cricket wrote:Python is better if you can master it 100% disagree. In my experience most newb pilots fly caldari, most vets fly gallente. It's a bit easier to fit a Python for survival initially, but once you have a good grasp on the intricacies of piloting and can offset some of the drawback of the gallente ships through piloting skill, the incubus has the better fitting arrangement as far as specialization and versatility. I'd give you guys my fittings, but considering how many pilots I consistenty destroy with my incubus I think I'd rather just watch the rest of you continue to struggle and drink in your sweet sweet tears.
To each their own I guess. I wouldn't be caught dead flying a gallente hippy wagon. Ill tell you my fitting and why I believe python>incubus.
High Slots: 2 shield extenders, 1 shield amplifier, 1 shield booster
Low Slots: 1 damage mod/passive heatsink(depends on turret), 1 power thingymabob(+7% to shields, shield recharge, and PG)
Swarms are a joke to me. Unless you have proto swarms with stacked damage mods all you will do is let me know where you are. Thanks for the easy kill.
Manuverability. I do not need powerplants and afterburners because I am already so fast and nimble.
Passive recharge. I do not always need to use my booster. Many times I can do a quick loop of the battlefield and be back at full strength ready to engage rather then hiding in the back waiting for my booster to do its work/recharge.
Just my .02isk |
Cy Clone1
Ancient Exiles Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.08.02 23:51:00 -
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Baal Roo wrote:Moochie Cricket wrote:Python is better if you can master it 100% disagree. In my experience most newb pilots fly caldari, most vets fly gallente. It's a bit easier to fit a Python for survival initially, but once you have a good grasp on the intricacies of piloting and can offset some of the drawback of the gallente ships through piloting skill, the incubus has the better fitting arrangement as far as specialization and versatility. I'd give you guys my fittings, but considering how many pilots I consistenty destroy with my incubus I think I'd rather just watch the rest of you continue to struggle and drink in your sweet sweet tears.
python is much better, im not trying to toot my own horn, but im a fairly skill dropship pilot. python allows for more damage and better maneuvers. Incubus seems to be more of a get the hang of it ship because of its defenses. |
Killar-12
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
389
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Posted - 2013.08.03 00:18:00 -
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Why put 60mm plates instead of hardeners? |
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Henchmen21
Planet Express LLC
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Posted - 2013.08.03 01:37:00 -
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I can fly both prefer the Incubus though. I can get in low and loiter. With resists I can absorb the first hit and still have time to get out. |
EternalRMG
ZionTCD
519
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Posted - 2013.08.03 01:46:00 -
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The problem with pythonss is that FG has a 10% bonus to shiel You have to sacrifice tanking for afterburner and you have a HUGE lack of pg That cant be increase by skills, you cant get tanky enough to rwsist a 2 proto forge shots ( A must in PC) and dont say " im fast enough to avoid the second one) A ishukone assault fg fires almost every second, not enought time to escape You cant rep your armour if you catch in fire you are death And if you fit a rep you lose tank or other essencial stuff
A armour dropship can have lot of hp without loosing spees because aftetburners compensate the penalty Armor hardeners are bettet Reps are better morr pg to fit stuff Dual hardener is a beast
I think missils are better than blasters because you can be effective vs everything Awesome for finishing ppl and tanks
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Moochie Cricket
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
406
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Posted - 2013.08.03 02:23:00 -
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EternalRMG wrote:The problem with pythonss is that FG has a 10% bonus to shiel You have to sacrifice tanking for afterburner and you have a HUGE lack of pg That cant be increase by skills, you cant get tanky enough to rwsist a 2 proto forge shots ( A must in PC) and dont say " im fast enough to avoid the second one) A ishukone assault fg fires almost every second, not enought time to escape You cant rep your armour if you catch in fire you are death And if you fit a rep you lose tank or other essencial stuff
A armour dropship can have lot of hp without loosing spees because aftetburners compensate the penalty Armor hardeners are bettet Reps are better morr pg to fit stuff Dual hardener is a beast
I think missils are better than blasters because you can be effective vs everything Awesome for finishing ppl and tanks
You don't need an afterburner with a python, it is quick and nimble enough to dodge forge shots until you can find cover. I call it my drunk pilot dodge and shake. |
EternalRMG
ZionTCD
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Posted - 2013.08.03 05:44:00 -
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Moochie Cricket wrote:EternalRMG wrote:The problem with pythonss is that FG has a 10% bonus to shiel You have to sacrifice tanking for afterburner and you have a HUGE lack of pg That cant be increase by skills, you cant get tanky enough to rwsist a 2 proto forge shots ( A must in PC) and dont say " im fast enough to avoid the second one) A ishukone assault fg fires almost every second, not enought time to escape You cant rep your armour if you catch in fire you are death And if you fit a rep you lose tank or other essencial stuff
A armour dropship can have lot of hp without loosing spees because aftetburners compensate the penalty Armor hardeners are bettet Reps are better morr pg to fit stuff Dual hardener is a beast
I think missils are better than blasters because you can be effective vs everything Awesome for finishing ppl and tanks
You don't need an afterburner with a python, it is quick and nimble enough to dodge forge shots until you can find cover. I call it my drunk pilot dodge and shake.
You havent been in PC battles right? |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.08.03 10:07:00 -
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EternalRMG wrote:Moochie Cricket wrote:EternalRMG wrote:The problem with pythonss is that FG has a 10% bonus to shiel You have to sacrifice tanking for afterburner and you have a HUGE lack of pg That cant be increase by skills, you cant get tanky enough to rwsist a 2 proto forge shots ( A must in PC) and dont say " im fast enough to avoid the second one) A ishukone assault fg fires almost every second, not enought time to escape You cant rep your armour if you catch in fire you are death And if you fit a rep you lose tank or other essencial stuff
A armour dropship can have lot of hp without loosing spees because aftetburners compensate the penalty Armor hardeners are bettet Reps are better morr pg to fit stuff Dual hardener is a beast
I think missils are better than blasters because you can be effective vs everything Awesome for finishing ppl and tanks
You don't need an afterburner with a python, it is quick and nimble enough to dodge forge shots until you can find cover. I call it my drunk pilot dodge and shake. You havent been in PC battles right? Flying a dropship in PC? *shudder* ugh all the tower sniping forge guns... *curls up in a ball* |
Moochie Cricket
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
407
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Posted - 2013.08.03 12:12:00 -
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EternalRMG wrote:Moochie Cricket wrote:EternalRMG wrote:The problem with pythonss is that FG has a 10% bonus to shiel You have to sacrifice tanking for afterburner and you have a HUGE lack of pg That cant be increase by skills, you cant get tanky enough to rwsist a 2 proto forge shots ( A must in PC) and dont say " im fast enough to avoid the second one) A ishukone assault fg fires almost every second, not enought time to escape You cant rep your armour if you catch in fire you are death And if you fit a rep you lose tank or other essencial stuff
A armour dropship can have lot of hp without loosing spees because aftetburners compensate the penalty Armor hardeners are bettet Reps are better morr pg to fit stuff Dual hardener is a beast
I think missils are better than blasters because you can be effective vs everything Awesome for finishing ppl and tanks
You don't need an afterburner with a python, it is quick and nimble enough to dodge forge shots until you can find cover. I call it my drunk pilot dodge and shake. You havent been in PC battles right?
If we had a pc battle and I was online I would be flying my dropship in it. Is zion even in pc anymore? |
Cy Clone1
Ancient Exiles Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.08.04 20:52:00 -
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I don't use afterburners, with the python, and ads are not viable in a pc anyhow. railtanks |
Mary Sedillo
Pure Innocence. EoN.
193
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Posted - 2013.08.04 21:04:00 -
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Cy Clone1 wrote:What fitting do you use? I've recently speced into them, and I found that I prefer the python. the python is more maneuverable and you can use damage mods with out sacrificing defense imo. I can also fit three proto turrets on the python while with the inc I can only fit one. Although The incubus is much more defensive it seems quite restrictive.
The Incubus with an Afterburner will outpace a Python any day of the week. The Incubus will outperform v a Python versus ground targets -=BUT=- 2 pilots of equal skill on equal footing... The Python will win more in the Air v. Air category.
Its the nature of the beast.
I am an Incubus pilot btw, and focus mostly on survivability and maneuverability.
My counter for Vipers?
Bait, and have a forge gun buddy shoot them out of the sky. Works most of the time to help balance my weakness to them. |
Azura Sakura
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
415
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Posted - 2013.08.04 22:15:00 -
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Mary Sedillo wrote:Cy Clone1 wrote:What fitting do you use? I've recently speced into them, and I found that I prefer the python. the python is more maneuverable and you can use damage mods with out sacrificing defense imo. I can also fit three proto turrets on the python while with the inc I can only fit one. Although The incubus is much more defensive it seems quite restrictive. The Incubus with an Afterburner will outpace a Python any day of the week. The Incubus will outperform v a Python versus ground targets -=BUT=- 2 pilots of equal skill on equal footing... The Python will win more in the Air v. Air category. Its the nature of the beast. I am an Incubus pilot btw, and focus mostly on survivability and maneuverability. My counter for Vipers? Bait, and have a forge gun buddy shoot them out of the sky. Works most of the time to help balance my weakness to them. Yep. But air vs air battle is dumb unless you have a gunner. Not at my ps3 ATM but have like 4 ADS for different situation. For example, Blaster turret for infantry, fragmented missiles for infantry and tanks, accelerated missiles for tanks and other ADS and then a CRU fit for people to hack outsides objectives or to get to high places when they die.
Once you fly long enough, reacting to a force gun hit with AB makes forge gunners laughable. Sure I won't be able to fight for awhile but once they take their eye off of me, I'll swoop in and harass/kill them. But red line tankers is a different story. |
EternalRMG
ZionTCD
535
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Posted - 2013.08.04 22:17:00 -
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Moochie Cricket wrote:EternalRMG wrote:Moochie Cricket wrote:EternalRMG wrote:The problem with pythonss is that FG has a 10% bonus to shiel You have to sacrifice tanking for afterburner and you have a HUGE lack of pg That cant be increase by skills, you cant get tanky enough to rwsist a 2 proto forge shots ( A must in PC) and dont say " im fast enough to avoid the second one) A ishukone assault fg fires almost every second, not enought time to escape You cant rep your armour if you catch in fire you are death And if you fit a rep you lose tank or other essencial stuff
A armour dropship can have lot of hp without loosing spees because aftetburners compensate the penalty Armor hardeners are bettet Reps are better morr pg to fit stuff Dual hardener is a beast
I think missils are better than blasters because you can be effective vs everything Awesome for finishing ppl and tanks
You don't need an afterburner with a python, it is quick and nimble enough to dodge forge shots until you can find cover. I call it my drunk pilot dodge and shake. You havent been in PC battles right? If we had a pc battle and I was online I would be flying my dropship in it. Is zion even in pc anymore?
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