What fitting do you use? I've recently speced into them, and I found that I prefer the python. the python is more maneuverable and you can use damage mods with out sacrificing defense imo. I can also fit three proto turrets on the python while with the inc I can only fit one. Although The incubus is much more defensive it seems quite restrictive.

You don't ever want to fit 3 proto turrets on a dropship, too much PG and too much ISK for what you get. And if manuavebili is an issue put a couple of jovians on and a shield extender in the highs. Combine with a repper and whatever else your want and you have a rather manueaverable and decently tanked vehicle.

I still say an Incubus is on equal footing with a Python in Air-to-Air engagements. What exactly makes you guys think the Python is superior in this situation? The speed difference? IME, the speed difference is negligible; especially when considering that the Incubus is a more stable platform, which allows for more precise gunning. And if you're fitting specifically for speed, the Incubus is the faster ship.

For me personally the Incubus is the better choice in almost every situation, but objectively I just don't see any reason to say that the Python is more suited for a2a than the Incubus.

It makes more sense to simply say that the Python is more nimble, but has the less fitting options and less tank.

As far as pure speed, the most speed-tanked Incubus is FASTER than the most speed-tanked Python.

Missle do more damage to armor and not so much to shields.

I still say an Incubus is on equal footing with a Python in Air-to-Air engagements. What exactly makes you guys think the Python is superior in this situation? The speed difference? IME, the speed difference is negligible; especially when considering that the Incubus is a more stable platform, which allows for more precise gunning. And if you're fitting specifically for speed, the Incubus is the faster ship.

For me personally the Incubus is the better choice in almost every situation, but objectively I just don't see any reason to say that the Python is more suited for a2a than the Incubus.

It makes more sense to simply say that the Python is more nimble, but has the less fitting options and less tank.

As far as pure speed, the most speed-tanked Incubus is FASTER than the most speed-tanked Python.

2 reasons. first, unless you speed fit the incubus, the python will be faster and more nimble, the python is also better at generally dodging shots due to its inherent higher movement. Second, missile turrets. Missile turrets are by far the most common turret you will come across, for good reason, in an A2A battle between a python and a incubus it has one major difference, efficiency. The missiles do less damage to the python which is shield tanked, this effectively increases how much the python can tank, and also makes its modules more effective. The incubus on the other hand takes increased damage from the missiles, it's effective tank is reduced and it's modules effectiveness decreased.

There's also the movement penalty the incubus suffers for fitting plates, while small it can be very telling in a dogfight where the python will be able to gain the higher position, and hence the advantage more quickly and reliably.

It's possible to win a dogfight against a python in an incubus, but it is much harder to do so, I've done fights in both, that's my experience of things.

The Incubus with an Afterburner will outpace a Python any day of the week.
The Incubus will outperform v a Python versus ground targets -=BUT=-
2 pilots of equal skill on equal footing...
The Python will win more in the Air v. Air category.

Its the nature of the beast.

I am an Incubus pilot btw, and focus mostly on survivability and maneuverability.


My counter for Vipers?

Bait, and have a forge gun buddy shoot them out of the sky.
Works most of the time to help balance my weakness to them.