DUST Search - Question to the incubus pilots

EternalRMG wrote:

Moochie Cricket wrote:

EternalRMG wrote:

The problem with pythonss is that FG has a 10% bonus to shiel
You have to sacrifice tanking for afterburner and you have a HUGE lack of pg
That cant be increase by skills, you cant get tanky enough to rwsist a 2 proto forge shots ( A must in PC) and dont say " im fast enough to avoid the second one)
A ishukone assault fg fires almost every second, not enought time to escape
You cant rep your armour if you catch in fire you are death
And if you fit a rep you lose tank or other essencial stuff

A armour dropship can have lot of hp without loosing spees because aftetburners compensate the penalty
Armor hardeners are bettet
Reps are better morr pg to fit stuff
Dual hardener is a beast

I think missils are better than blasters because you can be effective vs everything
Awesome for finishing ppl and tanks

You don't need an afterburner with a python, it is quick and nimble enough to dodge forge shots until you can find cover. I call it my drunk pilot dodge and shake.

You havent been in PC battles right?


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gbghg L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION 2919	Posted - 2013.08.02 18:12:00 - [1] - Quote You don't ever want to fit 3 proto turrets on a dropship, too much PG and too much ISK for what you get. And if manuavebili is an issue put a couple of jovians on and a shield extender in the highs. Combine with a repper and whatever else your want and you have a rather manueaverable and decently tanked vehicle.
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION 2921	Posted - 2013.08.02 19:59:00 - [2] - Quote EternalRMG wrote: If you want a corp battle fit YOU HAVE TO HAVE ARMOR HARDENERS Best module for armor Long duration 30 or 60 secs and short cooldown 15 secs This, if you want a fit that can tank hardeners are a must, putting passive amps in the high can make for an effective buffer as well. Also a tip you may not know, supply depots repair your armour, if for whatever reason you don't have a repper on you a supply depot can be a lifesaver, it's also useful for topping your armour up when you don't want to put a module into cool down.
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION 2924	Posted - 2013.08.02 22:43:00 - [3] - Quote Baal Roo wrote: Moochie Cricket wrote: Python is better if you can master it 100% disagree. In my experience most newb pilots fly caldari, most vets fly gallente. It's a bit easier to fit a Python for survival initially, but once you have a good grasp on the intricacies of piloting and can offset some of the drawback of the gallente ships through piloting skill, the incubus has the better fitting arrangement as far as specialization and versatility. I'd give you guys my fittings, but considering how many pilots I consistenty destroy with my incubus I think I'd rather just watch the rest of you continue to struggle and drink in your sweet sweet tears. The incubus is much nicer to fit, that's very true. However running a passive resist speed fit ona python makes for a very effective hit and run platform, not to mention that the pythons mobility and shield tanking makes it the better dogfighting, I'm not saying that you can't win a dogfight in an incubus if your good enough but it is much, much harder. The gallente however is much better suited to the ground support role due to its smoother handling, smaller amount of knock back from hits, and higher EHP. Both have their advantages and disadvantages. Oh and for any python pilots, try out this fit, it's pretty suited to hit and runs. High slots 2x ward shield amps 1x aziotropic extender 1x AB Low slot 2x Jovian power plants Turrets 1x accelerated missiles 2x std cycled missiles. With my skills it runs a 33% resist, can take a forge gun shot and give you enough time to AB out of there.
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION 2933	Posted - 2013.08.03 10:07:00 - [4] - Quote EternalRMG wrote: Moochie Cricket wrote: EternalRMG wrote: The problem with pythonss is that FG has a 10% bonus to shiel You have to sacrifice tanking for afterburner and you have a HUGE lack of pg That cant be increase by skills, you cant get tanky enough to rwsist a 2 proto forge shots ( A must in PC) and dont say " im fast enough to avoid the second one) A ishukone assault fg fires almost every second, not enought time to escape You cant rep your armour if you catch in fire you are death And if you fit a rep you lose tank or other essencial stuff A armour dropship can have lot of hp without loosing spees because aftetburners compensate the penalty Armor hardeners are bettet Reps are better morr pg to fit stuff Dual hardener is a beast I think missils are better than blasters because you can be effective vs everything Awesome for finishing ppl and tanks You don't need an afterburner with a python, it is quick and nimble enough to dodge forge shots until you can find cover. I call it my drunk pilot dodge and shake. You havent been in PC battles right? Flying a dropship in PC? shudder ugh all the tower sniping forge guns... curls up in a ball
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION 2943	Posted - 2013.08.05 00:07:00 - [5] - Quote Baal Roo wrote: I still say an Incubus is on equal footing with a Python in Air-to-Air engagements. What exactly makes you guys think the Python is superior in this situation? The speed difference? IME, the speed difference is negligible; especially when considering that the Incubus is a more stable platform, which allows for more precise gunning. And if you're fitting specifically for speed, the Incubus is the faster ship. For me personally the Incubus is the better choice in almost every situation, but objectively I just don't see any reason to say that the Python is more suited for a2a than the Incubus. It makes more sense to simply say that the Python is more nimble, but has the less fitting options and less tank. As far as pure speed, the most speed-tanked Incubus is FASTER than the most speed-tanked Python. 2 reasons. first, unless you speed fit the incubus, the python will be faster and more nimble, the python is also better at generally dodging shots due to its inherent higher movement. Second, missile turrets. Missile turrets are by far the most common turret you will come across, for good reason, in an A2A battle between a python and a incubus it has one major difference, efficiency. The missiles do less damage to the python which is shield tanked, this effectively increases how much the python can tank, and also makes its modules more effective. The incubus on the other hand takes increased damage from the missiles, it's effective tank is reduced and it's modules effectiveness decreased. There's also the movement penalty the incubus suffers for fitting plates, while small it can be very telling in a dogfight where the python will be able to gain the higher position, and hence the advantage more quickly and reliably. It's possible to win a dogfight against a python in an incubus, but it is much harder to do so, I've done fights in both, that's my experience of things.