so no 60mm plates?

If you want a corp battle fit
YOU HAVE TO HAVE ARMOR HARDENERS
Best module for armor
Long duration 30 or 60 secs and short cooldown 15 secs

Python is better if you can master it

100% disagree.

In my experience most newb pilots fly caldari, most vets fly gallente.

It's a bit easier to fit a Python for survival initially, but once you have a good grasp on the intricacies of piloting and can offset some of the drawback of the gallente ships through piloting skill, the incubus has the better fitting arrangement as far as specialization and versatility.

I'd give you guys my fittings, but considering how many pilots I consistenty destroy with my incubus I think I'd rather just watch the rest of you continue to struggle and drink in your sweet sweet tears.

100% disagree.

In my experience most newb pilots fly caldari, most vets fly gallente.

It's a bit easier to fit a Python for survival initially, but once you have a good grasp on the intricacies of piloting and can offset some of the drawback of the gallente ships through piloting skill, the incubus has the better fitting arrangement as far as specialization and versatility.

I'd give you guys my fittings, but considering how many pilots I consistenty destroy with my incubus I think I'd rather just watch the rest of you continue to struggle and drink in your sweet sweet tears.

100% disagree.

In my experience most newb pilots fly caldari, most vets fly gallente.

It's a bit easier to fit a Python for survival initially, but once you have a good grasp on the intricacies of piloting and can offset some of the drawback of the gallente ships through piloting skill, the incubus has the better fitting arrangement as far as specialization and versatility.

I'd give you guys my fittings, but considering how many pilots I consistenty destroy with my incubus I think I'd rather just watch the rest of you continue to struggle and drink in your sweet sweet tears.

The problem with pythonss is that FG has a 10% bonus to shiel
You have to sacrifice tanking for afterburner and you have a HUGE lack of pg
That cant be increase by skills, you cant get tanky enough to rwsist a 2 proto forge shots ( A must in PC) and dont say " im fast enough to avoid the second one)
A ishukone assault fg fires almost every second, not enought time to escape
You cant rep your armour if you catch in fire you are death
And if you fit a rep you lose tank or other essencial stuff

A armour dropship can have lot of hp without loosing spees because aftetburners compensate the penalty
Armor hardeners are bettet
Reps are better morr pg to fit stuff
Dual hardener is a beast

I think missils are better than blasters because you can be effective vs everything
Awesome for finishing ppl and tanks

You don't need an afterburner with a python, it is quick and nimble enough to dodge forge shots until you can find cover. I call it my drunk pilot dodge and shake.

You havent been in PC battles right?

You havent been in PC battles right?

What fitting do you use? I've recently speced into them, and I found that I prefer the python. the python is more maneuverable and you can use damage mods with out sacrificing defense imo. I can also fit three proto turrets on the python while with the inc I can only fit one. Although The incubus is much more defensive it seems quite restrictive.

The Incubus with an Afterburner will outpace a Python any day of the week.
The Incubus will outperform v a Python versus ground targets -=BUT=-
2 pilots of equal skill on equal footing...
The Python will win more in the Air v. Air category.

Its the nature of the beast.

I am an Incubus pilot btw, and focus mostly on survivability and maneuverability.


My counter for Vipers?

Bait, and have a forge gun buddy shoot them out of the sky.
Works most of the time to help balance my weakness to them.

If we had a pc battle and I was online I would be flying my dropship in it. Is zion even in pc anymore?

What fitting do you use? I've recently speced into them, and I found that I prefer the python. the python is more maneuverable and you can use damage mods with out sacrificing defense imo. I can also fit three proto turrets on the python while with the inc I can only fit one. Although The incubus is much more defensive it seems quite restrictive.

You don't ever want to fit 3 proto turrets on a dropship, too much PG and too much ISK for what you get. And if manuavebili is an issue put a couple of jovians on and a shield extender in the highs. Combine with a repper and whatever else your want and you have a rather manueaverable and decently tanked vehicle.

I still say an Incubus is on equal footing with a Python in Air-to-Air engagements. What exactly makes you guys think the Python is superior in this situation? The speed difference? IME, the speed difference is negligible; especially when considering that the Incubus is a more stable platform, which allows for more precise gunning. And if you're fitting specifically for speed, the Incubus is the faster ship.

For me personally the Incubus is the better choice in almost every situation, but objectively I just don't see any reason to say that the Python is more suited for a2a than the Incubus.

It makes more sense to simply say that the Python is more nimble, but has the less fitting options and less tank.

As far as pure speed, the most speed-tanked Incubus is FASTER than the most speed-tanked Python.

Missle do more damage to armor and not so much to shields.

I still say an Incubus is on equal footing with a Python in Air-to-Air engagements. What exactly makes you guys think the Python is superior in this situation? The speed difference? IME, the speed difference is negligible; especially when considering that the Incubus is a more stable platform, which allows for more precise gunning. And if you're fitting specifically for speed, the Incubus is the faster ship.

For me personally the Incubus is the better choice in almost every situation, but objectively I just don't see any reason to say that the Python is more suited for a2a than the Incubus.

It makes more sense to simply say that the Python is more nimble, but has the less fitting options and less tank.

As far as pure speed, the most speed-tanked Incubus is FASTER than the most speed-tanked Python.

2 reasons. first, unless you speed fit the incubus, the python will be faster and more nimble, the python is also better at generally dodging shots due to its inherent higher movement. Second, missile turrets. Missile turrets are by far the most common turret you will come across, for good reason, in an A2A battle between a python and a incubus it has one major difference, efficiency. The missiles do less damage to the python which is shield tanked, this effectively increases how much the python can tank, and also makes its modules more effective. The incubus on the other hand takes increased damage from the missiles, it's effective tank is reduced and it's modules effectiveness decreased.

There's also the movement penalty the incubus suffers for fitting plates, while small it can be very telling in a dogfight where the python will be able to gain the higher position, and hence the advantage more quickly and reliably.

It's possible to win a dogfight against a python in an incubus, but it is much harder to do so, I've done fights in both, that's my experience of things.

The Incubus with an Afterburner will outpace a Python any day of the week.
The Incubus will outperform v a Python versus ground targets -=BUT=-
2 pilots of equal skill on equal footing...
The Python will win more in the Air v. Air category.

Its the nature of the beast.

I am an Incubus pilot btw, and focus mostly on survivability and maneuverability.


My counter for Vipers?

Bait, and have a forge gun buddy shoot them out of the sky.
Works most of the time to help balance my weakness to them.