I myself have been playing less than 2 months and have around 6.2 mil. SP. I'm not great at FPS games but you don't see me complaining about getting my ass handed to me. Except for now. Me and a fellow corp member were playing last night and were put in to a couple matches versus a squad of "Team Players" and their CEO none other than CHICAGOCUBS4EVER. In the first match we were In the match for a few minutes. Then redlined. No problems there getting my butt kicked. But we meet them again couple matches later. 5 null cannon bridge map. Wow in less than 5 minutes redline. Ok no problem. WTH sniped as I land out of MCC and start running to top of hill from spindal tower on our MCC side. Ok WTF ran over by killer taxi as I spawn at CRU on our side in RED ZONE. I was killed 2 times this way and others also. Then couple matches later our team redlines another team. Wow we protect nulls and dont go camping the MCC or CRU in the redline. Other team did take a cannon couple times but then lost it. They tried to fight. I was trying to against TEAM PLAYERS but was not even getting the chance to hit the ground. Being a Noob , scrub or whatever has no bearing on what The team was having to deal with. Then you guys want to ***** about AFKing and redline sniping. Get a clue as to why so many new people leave and others AFK. Lost all respect for Team Players and their CEO.

Is this another nerf TP or QQ thread?

Change spawn points, work with your team, flank the red dots or atleast distract them long enough to make a move some where else. This is exactly what happens when people don't play with their Comms ON or just do whatever the hell they wanna do.

I'm sure if you had a coordinated team, you'd be able to give any Corp a hard time.

well they have been playing longer than u (have passive skills to increase weapons, dropsuits and vehicles) put mods on the proto suits they have to gain a bigger advantage and work as team to destroy anyone in their path

Any multiplayer of better players will always beat newer players. Don't play if it makes u that mad and take a break, im sure CCP will add PVE one of these days so u don't need to compete if u don't want to.

Sadly is not only "Team-Players" that is the problem...almost every big corp in Dust 514 constantly Pubstomps battles. You know something is wrong when you have people specting into Sniping, because is the only way they can play the game.

And i hate sniping... btw....

It's not even pubstomps. When players that see multiple of one corp on the opposing side of the board, they have a tendency to **** down their legs and camp the redline. I've been in this situation so many damn times it's not even funny and I know others have. Your whole squad is rushing in, you take an objective and then suddenly it seems like the whole damn opposing team is there and you get wiped out. You guys go in again, get owned, rinse and repeat until someone notices that the rest of your whole team is sitting back like a bunch of *******!
Doesn't matter what corp it is, players have a tendency to do this in unison without any communication on it. Sometimes you get lucky and the other corp is crap. Not naming any names, but there was a time an entire corp was stacked on the opposing board and my squad managed to win the match by ourselves while the rest of the team guarded the MCC.

I myself have been playing less than 2 months and have around 6.2 mil. SP. I'm not great at FPS games but you don't see me complaining about getting my ass handed to me. Except for now. Me and a fellow corp member were playing last night and were put in to a couple matches versus a squad of "Team Players" and their CEO none other than CHICAGOCUBS4EVER. In the first match we were In the match for a few minutes. Then redlined. No problems there getting my butt kicked. But we meet them again couple matches later. 5 null cannon bridge map. Wow in less than 5 minutes redline. Ok no problem. WTH sniped as I land out of MCC and start running to top of hill from spindal tower on our MCC side. Ok WTF ran over by killer taxi as I spawn at CRU on our side in RED ZONE. I was killed 2 times this way and others also. Then couple matches later our team redlines another team. Wow we protect nulls and dont go camping the MCC or CRU in the redline. Other team did take a cannon couple times but then lost it. They tried to fight. I was trying to against TEAM PLAYERS but was not even getting the chance to hit the ground. Being a Noob , scrub or whatever has no bearing on what The team was having to deal with. Then you guys want to ***** about AFKing and redline sniping. Get a clue as to why so many new people leave and others AFK. Lost all respect for Team Players and their CEO.

You lost respect for a corp because they manhandled you? Give me a break. TP is one of the most chill corps around. When I squad with them most of the chatter is people BSing and having fun. Either step your game up, or leave. Don't blame others for playing to win.

Is this another nerf TP or QQ thread?

Change spawn points, work with your team, flank the red dots or atleast distract them long enough to make a move some where else. This is exactly what happens when people don't play with their Comms ON or just do whatever the hell they wanna do.

I'm sure if you had a coordinated team, you'd be able to give any Corp a hard time.

You lost respect for a corp because they manhandled you? Give me a break. TP is one of the most chill corps around. When I squad with them most of the chatter is people BSing and having fun. Either step your game up, or leave. Don't blame others for playing to win.

My only issue is b!tches sniping from deep in the redline.

Teams that are out stomping - hats off to them. As a scout I try to avoid and steal an objective or two and keep high tailing it into the hills.

I going to carry on red-line sniping to Gaystompers stops ruining the game for everyone ... I nearly have enough SP for the Charge Sniper rifle... Get ready to cry... you b!tches !!

I'm pretty sure Teamplayers could care less about you respect or I could be wrong.

I didnt lose respect because I got man handled I lost respect because I was run over as I spawned behind the redline twice. At least give me a chance to defend myself. I dont call that manhandled. That playing to win? They already won why camp MCC and CRU behind the redline?

I didnt lose respect because I got man handled I lost respect because I was run over as I spawned behind the redline twice. At least give me a chance to defend myself. I dont call that manhandled. That playing to win? They already won why camp MCC and CRU behind the redline?

Change your spawn point. Run a scout with an uplink somewhere in the distance. Call in an LAV of your own. These are all things that prevent being killed while redlined. Don't just run out and expect no one to try to kill you. If the game was that out of hand that fast, they were killing you behind the redline out of sheer boredom.

Honest redline should be removed. If you get pushed all the way back to spawn at your MCC then you should pretty much be screwed unless you are skilled.

So you lost respect for a clan cause they pubbed? Wow. Maybe you should lose some respect for CCP for no match making, the SP cap not allowing new players to challenge, and scaring away all the real corps/alliances out of PC to keep teams like Team occupied. But hey once again, its all on Team and EoN!

Honest redline should be removed. If you get pushed all the way back to spawn at your MCC then you should pretty much be screwed unless you are skilled.

Well, they're one of the best corps in the game, so they would stomp most anyone.

Eon rarely gets attacked like they used to so all the vets have to play is pubs.

Matchmaking still sucks.

You can't blame an enemy of giving you the best opposition they can.

Learn from that. Find ways to counter. You'll become a better player.

Well if you don't play you wont get any better,

I myself have been playing less than 2 months and have around 6.2 mil. SP. I'm not great at FPS games but you don't see me complaining about getting my ass handed to me. Except for now. Me and a fellow corp member were playing last night and were put in to a couple matches versus a squad of "Team Players" and their CEO none other than CHICAGOCUBS4EVER. In the first match we were In the match for a few minutes. Then redlined. No problems there getting my butt kicked. But we meet them again couple matches later. 5 null cannon bridge map. Wow in less than 5 minutes redline. Ok no problem. WTH sniped as I land out of MCC and start running to top of hill from spindal tower on our MCC side. Ok WTF ran over by killer taxi as I spawn at CRU on our side in RED ZONE. I was killed 2 times this way and others also. Then couple matches later our team redlines another team. Wow we protect nulls and dont go camping the MCC or CRU in the redline. Other team did take a cannon couple times but then lost it. They tried to fight. I was trying to against TEAM PLAYERS but was not even getting the chance to hit the ground. Being a Noob , scrub or whatever has no bearing on what The team was having to deal with. Then you guys want to ***** about AFKing and redline sniping. Get a clue as to why so many new people leave and others AFK. Lost all respect for Team Players and their CEO.

Is this another nerf TP or QQ thread?

Change spawn points, work with your team, flank the red dots or atleast distract them long enough to make a move some where else. This is exactly what happens when people don't play with their Comms ON or just do whatever the hell they wanna do.

I'm sure if you had a coordinated team, you'd be able to give any Corp a hard time.

Ds I agree with you 100%. What I was seeing as I spawned from The CRU was the kill chart saying who just ran over me with a LAV. That happened twice in a row. And I was not the only blueberry. Didn't have a chance to run or throw down a uplink. And before I went to CRU was getting sniped after hitting the ground out of the MCC.

I see your point but I have to disagree with you. Good communication will only get you so far. in fact, Supior gunplay is infinitely better than supior communication. I've played first person shooters (for example, B3) where no one even has a headset and we absolutely decimate the other team because we just aim better and the enemy team all goes negativem

On the flip side, I've played games where we are legitimately trying to work out what to do and everytime we make a move we get killed because no one can f-ing aim.

Also, in MAG, perhaps some of you have heard of [~^~] The Dark Flock? The majority of games, we would just bullsh*t and talk about whatever and never talk about teamwork or the game. This is in part because in order to join everyone had to have a KDR of 2 to 1 - so rarely did we even have to 'try' to win. I remember one time I ran into an entire squad actually crouch walking in a V formation. They were close to the objective so they must have made it all the way from their spawn point. Imagine the coordination to pull something like that off? I killed them all.

You have to plan ahead. Where were the rest of your teams uplinks? When playing "serious" opponents you MUST get at least a dozen or so uplinks spread out around the field in the opening 30 seconds or so.

As far as redlining is concerned; Why would you expect your opponents to lazily allow the enemy to get a foothold once you've gotten yourselves pinned in through lack of strategic play? The faster you all die, the faster they can queue another match with hopefully better opponents. Did you really expect them to just give you an objective?

This is what happens when you remove Ambush OMS

Corps need to be able to organize battles that actually gain them SP. The only way to train to play in PRO gear is to play in PRO gear that means when not in PC, public matches are the only way for Corps to train. The game needs Corp Battles and they need to actually give SP and ISK.

lol
Nice attempt at justification for protostomping.

I'm giving a justification for Corp Battles. I hate to break it to you, the justification for proto-stomping is that the game allows it. Now my suggestion only deters it by giving players another outlet in which to run their PRO gear, it's not going to eliminate it, but it's a start.

Being against Proto-stomping is a morality based objection. It's not overpowered, nor it is a glitch or exploit. It's not against the rules in any form or fashion. The game, working as intended allows and so it happens. See this is the issue with all that HFTU, Adapt or Die, and Welcome to New Eden jive, you could easily apply it to the situation and dismiss that it might be an actually issue.

Yeah, technically you could, but in this case you're playing with the longevity of the game itself.

I'm sure anyone who got protostomped fresh out of the Academy has a 99% chance to say "**** this ****" and uninstall. If you'll take note, I only pull out the old staples on things that established players should already be aware of.

NPE is Sacred.

Protostomping those fresh out of Academy newbs is blasphemy and the only way to 100% avoid it is to not Protostomp.

Thanks for endangering the game fuckhole.

I have Proto weapons.. and i nearly max all the Core skills ... and not only i am useless against a full squad of Protogays, but i also can't afford to waste 1,000,000 isk trying to give them a good fight.

You obviously don't seeing the other side of the coin ... if i "step up" my game and give the Gaystompers a run for their money, i end up spending and average of 500,000-700,000 isk per battle.. just for a 200,000 isk reward, and ending up losing the battle anyway.

my suits are 7-13k and i still go even or beat proto squads, stop using excuses and get better