It feels like you're trying to create opportunities for scouts and scanning by hobbling the TacNet. The entire team should have access to targets that appear to any of its members. I would love for the scout role to be intelligence gathering but I disagree with this direction.

The only reason I can see for a team not sharing data among all its members is if the network is disrupted in some way. Some form of EW could disable sharing or maybe there needs to be some sort of TacNet relay which can be disrupted or destroyed.

A squad commander with a TacNet relay, a command or scout vehicle with team wide relay, or some sort of droppable device could be required for whole team radar sharing. If that item is destroyed or possibly just fluxed into submission for a time then the TacNet is disrupted and targets drop off your radar until the connection is replaced or recovers in some fashion.

Make the TacNet a tangible asset on the battlefield that can be affected. If you fail to bring the required relays then somebody better go back and grab one or deal with operating blindly.

How then will I annoy friendly snipers by shooting them in the back, and watching them get up and run scared?

It's the only way I know right now to let them know I disapprove of their role choice.

Too many comments! IGÇÖll try and address some of the points IGÇÖve seenGǪ

If scanners are sharing info to the whole team then it is actually a bug. I suspect that you may simply think it is sharing to the whole team because the UI is so unclear. With no way for you or your team mates to distinguish between active scan, passive scan and shared vision results itGÇÖs not easy to understand why you are seeing what you are seeing. This is something we wanted (and I think needed) to improve.

I was a little worried myself about the impact of only seeing the HP of targeted entities but in testing so far IGÇÖve found it to be a positive change. I no longer encounter a group of as little as 3 players and fail to see the names/HP status of any of them because the tags are all on top of one another. That situation is counter to the whole point of having tags in the first place. I used to encounter even worse situations where I couldnGÇÖt even pick a target because there is just a blob of tags in the way. That just had to go.

IGÇÖve also found itGÇÖs made the game more exciting and less of a GÇÿhunt the red chevronGÇÖ contest

We will be implementing WP rewards for the scanner. Right now weGÇÖre not sure if they will make it for 1.4, itGÇÖs getting a bit tight so keep your fingers crossed.

Lastly, donGÇÖt forget this is something we can and will continue to work on and improve with your feedback.

Now if you can just make HP a single bar instead of shields/armor as it favors shield tanking from a teamfire point of view, as it makes armor tankers get focused more as they always look like they are at half health in combat thus drawing more fire. It should be a combined single bar.

Too many comments! IGÇÖll try and address some of the points IGÇÖve seenGǪ

If scanners are sharing info to the whole team then it is actually a bug. I suspect that you may simply think it is sharing to the whole team because the UI is so unclear. With no way for you or your team mates to distinguish between active scan, passive scan and shared vision results itGÇÖs not easy to understand why you are seeing what you are seeing. This is something we wanted (and I think needed) to improve.

I was a little worried myself about the impact of only seeing the HP of targeted entities but in testing so far IGÇÖve found it to be a positive change. I no longer encounter a group of as little as 3 players and fail to see the names/HP status of any of them because the tags are all on top of one another. That situation is counter to the whole point of having tags in the first place. I used to encounter even worse situations where I couldnGÇÖt even pick a target because there is just a blob of tags in the way. That just had to go.

IGÇÖve also found itGÇÖs made the game more exciting and less of a GÇÿhunt the red chevronGÇÖ contest

We will be implementing WP rewards for the scanner. Right now weGÇÖre not sure if they will make it for 1.4, itGÇÖs getting a bit tight so keep your fingers crossed.

Lastly, donGÇÖt forget this is something we can and will continue to work on and improve with your feedback.

Too many comments! IGÇÖll try and address some of the points IGÇÖve seenGǪ

If scanners are sharing info to the whole team then it is actually a bug. I suspect that you may simply think it is sharing to the whole team because the UI is so unclear. With no way for you or your team mates to distinguish between active scan, passive scan and shared vision results itGÇÖs not easy to understand why you are seeing what you are seeing. This is something we wanted (and I think needed) to improve.

I was a little worried myself about the impact of only seeing the HP of targeted entities but in testing so far IGÇÖve found it to be a positive change. I no longer encounter a group of as little as 3 players and fail to see the names/HP status of any of them because the tags are all on top of one another. That situation is counter to the whole point of having tags in the first place. I used to encounter even worse situations where I couldnGÇÖt even pick a target because there is just a blob of tags in the way. That just had to go.

IGÇÖve also found itGÇÖs made the game more exciting and less of a GÇÿhunt the red chevronGÇÖ contest

We will be implementing WP rewards for the scanner. Right now weGÇÖre not sure if they will make it for 1.4, itGÇÖs getting a bit tight so keep your fingers crossed.

Lastly, donGÇÖt forget this is something we can and will continue to work on and improve with your feedback.

Actually looks pretty good in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyGxjCMXago&feature=youtu.be&a

Anyone as an individual, or corp, making good use of it?

IGÇÖve also found itGÇÖs made the game more exciting and less of a GÇÿhunt the red chevronGÇÖ contest

Wolfman if you are still monitoring this thread, have you fixed internally the bug where active scanners frequently don't detect anything (even things that certainly should be detected). It was mentioned as 'working on fix' in one of the weekly bug report threads about a month ago

Here's a link to my post in feedback thread.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=90589&find=unread

I was a little worried myself about the impact of only seeing the HP of targeted entities but in testing so far IGÇÖve found it to be a positive change. I no longer encounter a group of as little as 3 players and fail to see the names/HP status of any of them because the tags are all on top of one another. That situation is counter to the whole point of having tags in the first place. I used to encounter even worse situations where I couldnGÇÖt even pick a target because there is just a blob of tags in the way. That just had to go.

I don't personal use it, but I've seen others and my brother use it. I love the idea, knowing where your enemy is is definitely an advantage (especially with the proto one that shows them for 25 sec iirc). I haven't heard any complaints about its effectiveness, the only thing to change, imho, should be to give it spotting/ kill assist war points (like 3-5pts. per kill during the effect time) giving more of an incentive to use it (same thing with the vehicle active scanner).

IGÇÖve also found itGÇÖs made the game more exciting and less of a GÇÿhunt the red chevronGÇÖ contest

An increasingly technological battlefield is marked by increasing levels of communication and integration. The concept of the TACNET drawing on all available data so that every clone sees with the eyes of the entire team is a distinguishing feature of Dust. The battles and firefights have plenty of tension, we don't need a blindfold in order to crank it up more, it will just diminish the capacity to employ proper teamwork.

The problem is that there are three expensive skills (x3) in the Electronics branch (Range Amplification, Precision Enhancement, and Profile Dampening) that are utterly broken right now. All three affect the usefulness and power of the minimap and chevron rendering. But the current state of play is: "Everyone sees everything everyone else sees every time." It's valid if you think TACNET should do that work for you, but I disagree.

I want stealth to be a more viable tactic, meaning you have a chance to kill your spotter before he reveals you. Right now your exact location is briefly given to all enemies on the map. And once stealth is viable, anti-stealth spotting will also be viable. And suddenly we have several new roles.

But the current state of play is: "Everyone sees everything everyone else sees every time." It's valid if you think TACNET should do that work for you, but I disagree.

Actually looks pretty good in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyGxjCMXago&feature=youtu.be&a

Anyone as an individual, or corp, making good use of it?

First off, 'yay!'. Second, when you've tidied the hud and reward players active scanning, maybe you can then work on passive scanners and explain how they are supposed to interact with the sensors skills?

Maybe I'm just dumb, but I'm not sure profile dampening actually does anything outside being scanned by active scanners - and scan precision...? As well as actually solidifying an important section of game mechanics , It could appease scouts somewhat, no? Also introducing similar armour/shield detection mechanics that EVE has could help appease armour tankers. So many issues could be eased/resolved if you actually complete this section of the game...

I see this as a blessing and a curse. It means the information I gather for myself is very valuable, also I can always pass the information on verbally over comms.