Dust desperately needs a tiericide similar to what EvE had. You can not have a shooter where all that matters is how much time you put in and expect it to do well.

All this is because CCP has completely failed to make a game for Playstation users. Instead they made a dudebros game for the Eve antisocial type who do anything to win "spying and sabotage is so meta crowd." And they pushed out the playstation FPS players.

that's what they said about eve. that's what they want you to believe. so you'll quit. and my sp becomes even more dominant.

(it only takes 9 or 11 million to max out a proper suit and gun. after that you only gain options. your core skills win fights, not your suit)

(also, i'm not certain you understand what 'tiericide' was in eve)

Why would you want to play a game which promised merc work,a connection with EVE, without enjoying all the meta and brutal evil that is New Eden?

I agree with op entirely. The evetards have pushed this game into what it was intended to be. A proto-pub-stomp-fest. So sub-par players can compete with fps from the playstation nation. Dedicated no lifers (eve players) who can proto stomp because they have the time to afk and cap on a weekly basis on multiple accounts. We psn players have played many many shooters, this is all evetards got, so they stick to their guns. Ps4 and planetside cant come any quicker for me.

More time envested the easier mode it becomes.

One small corp has proto stomped, used overpowered weapons, cheap exploit tactics and spawned killed it to death. One corp of about 10 guys. How does that make you feel CPP? A market of a billion people, destroyed by a handful. Slow clap fellas.

After all this time, the server is dead as *****. All this is because CCP has completely failed to make a game for Playstation users. Instead they made a dudebros game for the Eve antisocial type who do anything to win "spying and sabotage is so meta crowd." And they pushed out the playstation FPS players. The keyboard is the first clue.

Why is PC messed up? That crowd.
Why are game numbers down? That crowd. "Can I have your stuff?"
Why didn't they fix AFK farming? That crowd.
Why exploiters aren't banned? That crowd.
Why no SP reset on game launch day? That crowd.

What do I think has gone wrong? Very simple.
They listened to that crowd.

The problems with PC are the same issues as pub stomping, flavour of the week weapons use and MCC AFK farming. A spoiled brat self entitled anti-social EVE player playerbase that CCP doesn't have the balls to smack down for fear of reprisals in EVE.

MCC AFK farmers should have been banned and or stripped of SP starting from day 1.
Proper matchmaking via gear restriction tiers implemented so K/D farmers had to fight for it.
On 5/14 and end of beta testing all SP should have been reset.
Anyone caught using exploits banned.

Why didn't this happen?

Because there wouldn't have been any o'time Eve players left. Hilarious, because instead you would have had your market of dudebros playing their FPS... you know... that MASSIVE market you were trying to break into. Whoops

Who cares about asian servers? Or asia at all? I PALY IN AMERIKA

IF that clan is so good in asia, I wonder why they don't kick some ass over here?

The worst elements of FPS gamers here only want this to be some vehicle for their fantasy that they are real athletes. This causes them to do things like protostomp and stroke their egos while berating and belittling everyone who isn't "on their level" (read: plays the game for fun rather than to pretend that they are athletes). This is bad overall for the game.

Oh man, speaking of this... I've witnessed multiple occasions of people getting on their comms for the sole purpose of berating their own team mates. One guy even called out specific players over the comms for their performance with no consideration for the fact that they might have been completely new to the game. That to me is a prime example of the worst elements of FPS gamers and really bad for new player retention.

If OP is talking about Nyain San, they do. I was in an ambush against a squad of them once. I got one of the three kills against their entire side before we got cloned out by the 11 minutes mark.

why do you think you get no wp for repairing a blue vehicle on fire? Why do you think dropships don't get mrcu wp? why do you think we only get so many wp for repairing infantry?

You're so philosophical. please adorn me with more pearls of wisdom.

I go on the Asia servers to AFK late night/early morning, and the matches are always full.

Wow, yet another thread attacking EVE players for "ruining the game".

It's funny to realize how people on the outside think of us as this homogeneous mass that all thinks and wants the same things.

I mean, you do realize that some of the people that have been quite vocal about their displeasure with where the game has gone also play EVE, right? Playing EVE doesn't somehow make you incapable of understanding other games.

What a load of crap, I play on the asia server all the time and theres no one corp that completely dominates it, Nyain sain probably could but I only ever see nyain chan around in skirmish or dom.

Now if you were to say the same thing about oceanic i'd agree, its sad that the bloated blob known as southern legion recruits anyone with a pulse and would give players the impression that they completely dominate the server.

Don't be such a stickler on the generalization. The message that came from the EVE side has been clear.

HTFU.
Adapt or Die.
Can I have your stuff?
Welcome to New Eden.

Everyone that has ever had a reasonable gripe with the game has been bombarded with these. A computer based spaceship game and a console FPS have different playerbases. Don't get hung up on the exceptions. CCP knows it.

I've never cheated in a game, EVER. Not a matter of "principle", but i play to play. I don't boost.

I have AFK farmed though, and only cuz CCP has not said a word about it being a cheat or exploit. There's NO SP POOL so if you miss a week of SP, you don't have a chance of getting it back.

Since I don't really care anymore, and have enough SP for my class, I don't even AFK anymore. CCP can't ban people for something that's not against the rules...

Plus people spent money on boosters. If someone gets their SP reset, or banned for no reason, CCP has to refund them their money. And by no reason I mean, CCP has never said it's against the rules.

You can say it's exploiting if you want. Till I hear otherwise, you're wrong.

I guess the game having no new content for so long, or the fact that the game still feels like I'm wading through mud has nothing to do with people leaving?

AFK'ers have no effect on people leaving, in fact some people are still on DUST BECAUSE they can still AFK.

Matchmaking issues has been brought up since early Chromosome. CCP ignored the feedback or was busy taking vacations... so w/e at this point. Nullabor is working on a matchmaking system now, but it's kinda closing the barn door when the horse has already escaped.

How are people exploiting or cheating? You made no example.

SP reset? loooool... if that happened there would be FAR less people playing this game.

No I'm not a lolEVE player. I just wanna shoot people, and when that doesn't feel fun anymore, people will leave.

Have to say Beld, you sure know how to hold a grudge.

Because we didn't run the corp your way, and recruit only 'elite' players. We give newer players a chance... even give the more dedicated ones shots at PC. We're working long term, not short term. Look at all the so-called 'elite' corps that have fallen by the wayside... TSOLE is still here, and still growing because we're willing to give people a shot.

The last thing this game needs is more closed minded elitists seeking to build the 'dream team' and exclude the new players who may well be very good at higher levels, or with guidance.

Don't get me wrong, members of so-called elite corps are generally good blokes, but building a team on the premise that it's built to win, and only win, means that IF you start to lose, the team cohesion begins to break apart.

The Southern Legion is a DUST / EVE Community first.

I'm only sorry you didn't see that when you were a part of our ranks.

One small corp has proto stomped, used overpowered weapons, cheap exploit tactics and spawned killed it to death. One corp of about 10 guys. How does that make you feel CPP? A market of a billion people, destroyed by a handful. Slow clap fellas.

Yeah I think you've got far more in common with a cult than a community, one thing i've noticed despite a lot of TSOLE being good fellas, they treat everyone that has the gaul to leave the cult like lepers or traitors, you in particular like to put on this big show of being the reasonable speech giving dear leader, and yet I heard you completely flipped your lid when bloodoil left to join internal error.

I'd congratulate you on keeping TSOLE together this long, but I think your success has more to do with the lack of alternatives than actual good leadership.