I disagree with this. I have a couple of friends in the military who bought a few passive boosters to place on their account while they are over seas. This way they can come back and play the game without having a huge penalty for have no internet.

Instead maybe a 5-10% boost if you play that week would be nice.

Just an idea:

I'd like to see passive SP accumulation decrease once people don't log in for a certain amount of time. This has a few advantages:

- Regular players get more of reward for playing, say, at least once a week
- Players that are AFK for months still get enough SP to play with once they decide to log in
- It's good for CCP, as it gives players an incentive to come back and log in and/or play more often
- More people playing regularly, and less dropping out, will increase the player base and provide more reason for CCP to invest in the game (more content, maps, weapons, DLC, etc.).

Suppose someone loses 5% SP buildup every week that they don't log in. One month AFK would already amount to 20% loss. 3 months to 60%. Add a minimum base of 25% buildup, to keep leachers happy and to give them some SP to play with.

This decision can be justified as well: soldiers behind a desk accumulate skills slower than those in active duty.

I wonder what other players think. Thanks for reading and your feedback!

Currently I'm bored and awaiting new content and fixes for the numerous bugs and glitches. If this idea was implemented one of two things would happen.
1- I would log in then log back out without playing.
2- I wouldn't come back which would decrease the player base. This would be more likely if 1 wasn't possible. There's more and more F2P games out every day so the only thing I would miss is the potential this game has. If I didn't have my passive SP I wouldn't even bother coming back to these forums and the dev blogs to see if something has been done to further the games towards it's potential.

I can't help but feel like this idea punishes those who cannot or do not want to play all the time, and that's not something I can get on board with.

We already have an incentive to play: active SP accrual.

I'm sorry but you're only placing those people that can't log in regularly at a disadvantage. Passive SP is the only thing that's keeping those players from falling far behind.

if i work alot for a month you saying i shouldn't be able to keep up with the jones

we should be more concerned with getting people to come back

Just an idea:

I'd like to see passive SP accumulation decrease once people don't log in for a certain amount of time. This has a few advantages:

- Regular players get more of reward for playing, say, at least once a week
- Players that are AFK for months still get enough SP to play with once they decide to log in
- It's good for CCP, as it gives players an incentive to come back and log in and/or play more often
- More people playing regularly, and less dropping out, will increase the player base and provide more reason for CCP to invest in the game (more content, maps, weapons, DLC, etc.).

Suppose someone loses 5% SP buildup every week that they don't log in. One month AFK would already amount to 20% loss. 3 months to 60%. Add a minimum base of 25% buildup, to keep leachers happy and to give them some SP to play with.

This decision can be justified as well: soldiers behind a desk accumulate skills slower than those in active duty.

I wonder what other players think. Thanks for reading and your feedback!

With this idea:

1. People who have a life get punished.
2. The number of AFK farmers would grow, because you would HAVE TO farm.
3. More people would just leave due to afk farmers/grinding/being pubstomped.

If your idea becomes true i will just stop playing dust, it is not a game good enough right now that i want to play it every day (not even every week), afk farmers already ruin most of the games and i don't want to have to grind to stay competitive.

You want to have more people playing? Then reward people for playing.

Change in battleSP gains to be dependant on WP and not time (this would remove afk farmers)

Add something like MAG Happy Hour or World of Tank 2x xp for the first battle so that people are ENCOURAGED to play everyday not FORCED.

EDIT: The passive sp gains is what makes people coming back, people know that even if they don't play for a month they will still be competitive with everyone else. Remove passive sp gains and people will just leave to other, less sp based, games.

I sometimes dont have the chance to play for a week or 2.

What you are suggesting is to completely eliminate weekend gamers.

Dude, passive sp is already nearly garbage. Some of us simply can't log in and play every day. We have these things, they are called lives. They are stupid and annoying, but we have them.

Getting rid of, or even minorly cutting down on passive sp would basically kill the player base to all but the most dedicated people.

Think I prefer the mechanic being used in space already over bonusses here, where you have to select a skill and level to train so the passive sp gets added into that skill automatically. When the skill level training is finished, passive sp stops accumulating untill you (login and) select another skill and level to train.

This mechanic can be tweaked for dust to reduce the passive sp without a skill in training for example, or automatically starts training the next level available.

I don't agree. That would mean that people have to log in all the time, to check whether their skill has been filled or not. That seems like a nuisance that would be unfair to those that can't log in daily. Even if SP would continue to accumulate in the same branch in the skill tree, this would mean that people who are away for long periods of time can't decide how to distribute all their skill points. They would (for instance) end up with the mother of all forge guns, but be stuck in a flimsy suit.

Just an idea:

I'd like to see passive SP accumulation decrease once people don't log in for a certain amount of time. This has a few advantages:

- Regular players get more of reward for playing, say, at least once a week
- Players that are AFK for months still get enough SP to play with once they decide to log in
- It's good for CCP, as it gives players an incentive to come back and log in and/or play more often
- More people playing regularly, and less dropping out, will increase the player base and provide more reason for CCP to invest in the game (more content, maps, weapons, DLC, etc.).

Suppose someone loses 5% SP buildup every week that they don't log in. One month AFK would already amount to 20% loss. 3 months to 60%. Add a minimum base of 25% buildup, to keep leachers happy and to give them some SP to play with.

This decision can be justified as well: soldiers behind a desk accumulate skills slower than those in active duty.

I wonder what other players think. Thanks for reading and your feedback!

What happens If you buy a few passive SP boosters, because you are out of the country for a couple of months?

Yeah, sure, let's throw out the only possible reason why some players might ever come back to this POS.

When I was in Afghanistan, I couldn't play any games for 7 months, because there was no internet. Should I be punished for that?

That's why the decrease shouldn't be too big, and not kick in too fast. Perhaps one month of non-playing before the decrease kicks in?

No, you shouldn't. And I know that would suck for you, as I've been in the same situation. But should others who are not interested to play be awarded for doing nothing and being able to shoot the crap out of newbies? Should new players get this extra disadvantage towards people that didn't earn it?

Perhaps there should be a mechanism that true players, like you, would not be punished. For instance, every 10 games played in a month will delay the penalty kicking in with a month.

I just think that those people that create an account with the intention of farming instead of playing should be nerfed slightly, to give them an additional incentive to play and to make life less unfair for new players.

Just an idea:

I'd like to see passive SP accumulation decrease once people don't log in for a certain amount of time. This has a few advantages:

- Regular players get more of reward for playing, say, at least once a week
- Players that are AFK for months still get enough SP to play with once they decide to log in
- It's good for CCP, as it gives players an incentive to come back and log in and/or play more often
- More people playing regularly, and less dropping out, will increase the player base and provide more reason for CCP to invest in the game (more content, maps, weapons, DLC, etc.).

Suppose someone loses 5% SP buildup every week that they don't log in. One month AFK would already amount to 20% loss. 3 months to 60%. Add a minimum base of 25% buildup, to keep leachers happy and to give them some SP to play with.

This decision can be justified as well: soldiers behind a desk accumulate skills slower than those in active duty.

I wonder what other players think. Thanks for reading and your feedback!

I don't have time to play all time. Lowering the passive count would mess up the reason why I spent over $200 on this game. If you don't like it than just leave.

[...]is that too much to ask?[...]

[quote=lrian Locust][quote=FLAYLOCK Steve]ISo let put this all in two simple questions: What specific benefits would your proposition yield for us players? Why specifically do we need a system as per your proposition?

- It's good for CCP, as it gives players an incentive to come back and log in and/or play more often

Just an idea:

I'd like to see passive SP accumulation decrease once people don't log in for a certain amount of time. This has a few advantages:

- Regular players get more of reward for playing, say, at least once a week
- Players that are AFK for months still get enough SP to play with once they decide to log in
- It's good for CCP, as it gives players an incentive to come back and log in and/or play more often
- More people playing regularly, and less dropping out, will increase the player base and provide more reason for CCP to invest in the game (more content, maps, weapons, DLC, etc.).

Suppose someone loses 5% SP buildup every week that they don't log in. One month AFK would already amount to 20% loss. 3 months to 60%. Add a minimum base of 25% buildup, to keep leachers happy and to give them some SP to play with.

This decision can be justified as well: soldiers behind a desk accumulate skills slower than those in active duty.

I wonder what other players think. Thanks for reading and your feedback!