Any time a FG can shoot at you, if you have a rail you can hit him right back. Not knowing that is what makes you a scrub.

You mentioned that you sit up on a hill and get shot in the ass by a guy with a breach forge. Yeah, you are a bad tanker.

We need a basic IQ test before letting people skill into vehicles.

and what seperates me from alot of tankers: i do groundwork as well, but for real i only have roughly 4 mill into tanks, the rest into weapons and suits.

The dude with 3x Lai Dais also gimped himself due to fitting requirements and lack of AP 'nades against other infantry who can now slay him with abandon. He's also gotta get within blaster range of you... 'thrown over wall' issue comes with the issue that he cannot aim very effectively when he throws and any movement by you away from the killzone will nullify his grenade. Tanks are faster than any infantry. Kind of for a reason.

If you want to wade into the fray at point blank range alone and unsupported and try to farm kills while standing still, well, you get what you pay for.

i propose CCP nerfs the tanks ammo and falloff dmg.

and while we're at it, make it so that the rail gun tanks ALSO has to stand still to charge the railgun. much like the breach FG variation.

coz we all know those HAV with railguns love to snipe from a distance. make them also have a big ass ball of lightning so we can see them as well. its only fair to the FG if they decide to add in the ball of lightning effect.

lol OP wrote that the the breach FG needs 6 seconds, B-I-T-C-H please you know how long 6 seconds is to a heavy? and remember with a breach FG we can't move we literally stand still just in order to shoot your crappy ass tank.

You're either a bad troll or a complete idiot.

How does a 6 second charge not matter?
How does the 10k+ EHP of a tank not make a difference?
How does the tank's infinite ammo not make a difference?
How does the fact the tank can move and shoot, all while maintaining an infinite range not make a difference?
Why is it a problem that a Breach(It's wrykomi btw) forge gun has to take well over 20 seconds to kill a tank?
Why is it the Breach Forge Gunner(or any FGers) problem/fault that the tank did not react?

Tanks are meant to die. Forge guns - expecially the Breach - are meant to facilitate that.

HTFU, get over it, move on.

... they werent my tanks, only about 3 were, but many tanks were destoyed by them today, and those were ones that i was in that game when it happend, so dont go thinking other wise, or quit mishearing me.

Let look at it like this: I like playing Dust and using vehicles. I want to contribute to my team and improve my stats. On average I am either facing enemies who can do nothing to hurt me or ones who are extremely potent. Do I have a problem with this? Not really as any specialty has something to counter it.

Problem: Unless I go 35/0 and kill tons of proto suits plus installations I cannot afford to continue to play my niche. Plus my entire play style can be complete shut down by a single well supported forge gun user, if there is two I should just quit playing and wait for the game to end. Even if I am a well supported tanker there is little my team can do to help me either unless they all switch over to a sniper fit. It is sort of like if one person switches to a sniper fit on the enemy team now all AR users can barely play and if there is 2 snipers they should just quit.

Result: Tanks are an expensive niche that can be highly rewarding (like going 35/0) but can be quickly shut down by dedicated opposition thus countering the 8M+ SP I have into vehicles and due the the number of people out there with proto AV there is far less good games and more bad ones.

Reality: I just want to play the game and have fun. In order to do that I have to run the best tank possible which equals an expensive tank. A few decent AV users on an enemy team can cost me several million ISK and more or less lock me out of the game. That isn't fun.

Let look at it like this: I like playing Dust and using vehicles. I want to contribute to my team and improve my stats. On average I am either facing enemies who can do nothing to hurt me or ones who are extremely potent. Do I have a problem with this? Not really as any specialty has something to counter it.

Problem: Unless I go 35/0 and kill tons of proto suits plus installations I cannot afford to continue to play my niche. Plus my entire play style can be complete shut down by a single well supported forge gun user, if there is two I should just quit playing and wait for the game to end. Even if I am a well supported tanker there is little my team can do to help me either unless they all switch over to a sniper fit. It is sort of like if one person switches to a sniper fit on the enemy team now all AR users can barely play and if there is 2 snipers they should just quit.

Result: Tanks are an expensive niche that can be highly rewarding (like going 35/0) but can be quickly shut down by dedicated opposition thus countering the 8M+ SP I have into vehicles and due the the number of people out there with proto AV there is far less good games and more bad ones.

Reality: I just want to play the game and have fun. In order to do that I have to run the best tank possible which equals an expensive tank. A few decent AV users on an enemy team can cost me several million ISK and more or less lock me out of the game. That isn't fun.

That's what is really overpowered. While snipers need to be in the open to have a steay aim forge guns can simply pop out of cover for a second on a roof and do tons of damage with perfect accuracy, immediately popping back into cover before the tank or infantry has time to react.

Forge guns

Mobile
easy to hide
can be taken to tall buildings that tank cannot fire at
is harder to kill then a tank
can be well over a thousand HP

Forge guns

Mobile
easy to hide
can be taken to tall buildings that tank cannot fire at
is harder to kill then a tank
can be well over a thousand HP

look... the forge gun thing is mostly for the annoying campers up on a building or behind a rock that just moves around it and shoots and takes half your armor/ sheilds away, then kills you the next shot.

Let look at it like this: I like playing Dust and using vehicles. I want to contribute to my team and improve my stats. On average I am either facing enemies who can do nothing to hurt me or ones who are extremely potent. Do I have a problem with this? Not really as any specialty has something to counter it.

Problem: Unless I go 35/0 and kill tons of proto suits plus installations I cannot afford to continue to play my niche. Plus my entire play style can be complete shut down by a single well supported forge gun user, if there is two I should just quit playing and wait for the game to end. Even if I am a well supported tanker there is little my team can do to help me either unless they all switch over to a sniper fit. It is sort of like if one person switches to a sniper fit on the enemy team now all AR users can barely play and if there is 2 snipers they should just quit.

Result: Tanks are an expensive niche that can be highly rewarding (like going 35/0) but can be quickly shut down by dedicated opposition thus countering the 8M+ SP I have into vehicles and due the the number of people out there with proto AV there is far less good games and more bad ones.

Reality: I just want to play the game and have fun. In order to do that I have to run the best tank possible which equals an expensive tank. A few decent AV users on an enemy team can cost me several million ISK and more or less lock me out of the game. That isn't fun.