DUST Search - NERF NOW!

Texs Red wrote:

Let look at it like this: I like playing Dust and using vehicles. I want to contribute to my team and improve my stats. On average I am either facing enemies who can do nothing to hurt me or ones who are extremely potent. Do I have a problem with this? Not really as any specialty has something to counter it.

Problem: Unless I go 35/0 and kill tons of proto suits plus installations I cannot afford to continue to play my niche. Plus my entire play style can be complete shut down by a single well supported forge gun user, if there is two I should just quit playing and wait for the game to end. Even if I am a well supported tanker there is little my team can do to help me either unless they all switch over to a sniper fit. It is sort of like if one person switches to a sniper fit on the enemy team now all AR users can barely play and if there is 2 snipers they should just quit.

Result: Tanks are an expensive niche that can be highly rewarding (like going 35/0) but can be quickly shut down by dedicated opposition thus countering the 8M+ SP I have into vehicles and due the the number of people out there with proto AV there is far less good games and more bad ones.

Reality: I just want to play the game and have fun. In order to do that I have to run the best tank possible which equals an expensive tank. A few decent AV users on an enemy team can cost me several million ISK and more or less lock me out of the game. That isn't fun.


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Baal Omniscient L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION 551	Posted - 2013.07.30 17:53:00 - [1] - Quote bear90211 wrote: look... the forge gun thing is mostly for the annoying campers up on a building or behind a rock that just moves around it and shoots and takes half your armor/ sheilds away, then kills you the next shot. I find this hilarious since all I ever see you do is sit in the redline rail-sniping from behind hills and falling back any time you take damage. Not many forge guns to worry about when you never park more than the front tip of your tank into view of them. This has been suggested MANY times in the past, know why it's never happened? Because it's not needed. If you have a problem with forge guns now, you'd have cried yourself to sleep at night if you were here to see forge guns PRE nerf. And forge guns weren't even all that OP back then, but CCP over did it on the nerf and we now have the weak boomstick version you see today that is STILL being called OP The trade off for using a forge gun is that you have next to no mobility unless you wanna risk getting shot out of or insta killed in a LAV, where as with a tank (with a kb/m) you can be moving at LAV speeds in seconds and avoid ALL the AV no problem. Also, a heavy has to watch out for EVERY weapon on the field while trying to shoot JUST YOU. A tank only has to worry about the handful of people willing to pull out AV. Lastly: Find a squad to support you instead of complaining about forge guns "sneaking up on you". TL;DR: Suck it up, forge guns are fine.
Baal Omniscient L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION 551	Posted - 2013.07.30 18:26:00 - [2] - Quote Texs Red wrote: Let look at it like this: I like playing Dust and using vehicles. I want to contribute to my team and improve my stats. On average I am either facing enemies who can do nothing to hurt me or ones who are extremely potent. Do I have a problem with this? Not really as any specialty has something to counter it. Problem: Unless I go 35/0 and kill tons of proto suits plus installations I cannot afford to continue to play my niche. Plus my entire play style can be complete shut down by a single well supported forge gun user, if there is two I should just quit playing and wait for the game to end. Even if I am a well supported tanker there is little my team can do to help me either unless they all switch over to a sniper fit. It is sort of like if one person switches to a sniper fit on the enemy team now all AR users can barely play and if there is 2 snipers they should just quit. Result: Tanks are an expensive niche that can be highly rewarding (like going 35/0) but can be quickly shut down by dedicated opposition thus countering the 8M+ SP I have into vehicles and due the the number of people out there with proto AV there is far less good games and more bad ones. Reality: I just want to play the game and have fun. In order to do that I have to run the best tank possible which equals an expensive tank. A few decent AV users on an enemy team can cost me several million ISK and more or less lock me out of the game. That isn't fun. Let's say I like to snipe in a proto-suit with a Thales. That is what makes me enjoy the game. The other team has 5 really good counter snipers, so I might as well quit or loose all those randomly gained rifles and expensive proto suits. This makes the game not fun, but happens all the time. Let's say I like to run a proto assault suit with an Alloteck burst AR. That is what makes me enjoy the game. The other team puts 4 forge gunners on the roofs of buildings I cannot get to, so I might as well quit or loose all that hard earned ISK. This happens all the time, but takes the fun right out of the game. Let's say I like to run proto heavy with a proto assault forge gun. That's what makes me enjoy the game. The other team is playing normally, using any variation of AR, mass driver, sniper rifle and flaylock pistol that can all out range me/flank me before I can turn around/run me down if I try to run away, plus grenades LAV's and tanks. E very day is a bad day, but I keep going because helping the team is fun, and despite the fact that I occasionally have to grind ISK in other suits to play the way I want to play, I'm here to have fun, not b*tch about how other people having fun in the same game is taking away from my fun.