I'd kill a guy for a watermelon Arizona and some skittles too. If he'd had a klondike bar, it might have not even gone to trial.

Stop?

If the vigilante in question was Batman, would this even be an issue?

These trial along with O.J., Michael Jackson, Lindsey Lohan etc etc are to get the masses attention away from the what is really going on. The stealing of the worlds wealth and the non stop drop to the bottom of the abyss. T.V. is the modern day coliseum. Foot ball and all sports are the gladiators and reality T.V. is the christian vs lion. We are being culled into a slumber as they steal our future and the future generation's wealth and freedom. Refuse to accept what they call truth and seek it for yourself. They are drawing your attention away from the truth.

You have no sense of tact you freaking idiot! I hope you pay for such stupidity. Making light of a situation that clearly creates a broad line between the ignorant racists and the folks who recognize this as an injustice.

I hope something bad happens to you this week

No sir. This is what they want you to do

These trial along with O.J., Michael Jackson, Lindsey Lohan etc etc are to get the masses attention away from the what is really going on. The stealing of the worlds wealth and the non stop drop to the bottom of the abyss. T.V. is the modern day coliseum. Foot ball and all sports are the gladiators and reality T.V. is the christian vs lion. We are being culled into a slumber as they steal our future and the future generation's wealth and freedom. Refuse to accept what they call truth and seek it for yourself. They are drawing your attention away from the truth.

Oh please with that reverse psychology. This type of thread shouldn't even be allowed here because it's a platform to bring about racist remarks, met with hostility and just overall bad etiquette.

It's like discussing politics at work. You don't do that. Stupid OP. I hope murder taxis ruin his next 50 games

Zimmerman is a complete dumb ass and should be hanged

You have no sense of tact you freaking idiot! I hope you pay for such stupidity. Making light of a situation that clearly creates a broad line between the ignorant racists and the folks who recognize this as an injustice.

I hope something bad happens to you this week

You are aware that the NDAA was signed again during that entire bullshit trial and incident right?
Far more things to be concerned about.

There's truckloads of injustice going on all over our country, and our god damned planet.

Should a woman be raped for dressing like a *****? No.
Should a man be shot for dressing like a thug? No.

Does it still happen? Yes.
Are people idiots? Yes.


Take this BS out of General Discussion and put it in The Locker Room.
I don't come to these forums to see this ****.

You are aware that the NDAA was signed again during that entire bullshit trial and incident right?
Far more things to be concerned about.

There's truckloads of injustice going on all over our country, and our god damned planet.

Should a woman be raped for dressing like a *****? No.
Should a man be shot for dressing like a thug? No.

Does it still happen? Yes.
Are people idiots? Yes.


Take this BS out of General Discussion and put it in The Locker Room.
I don't come to these forums to see this ****.

so you should be hanged for defending yourself? that's dumbassery right there... liberal biased media has gotten to you, theve never shown any facts about it

Sorry but TM got what he wanted, a fight.

GZ did nothing wrong, yet people want to convict him of what? Funny thing is where is the media attention for these stories?

Black man shoots white teen

or this one

12yo torched to death

TM was neither innocent, nor was GZ guilty. Stop making this about race and make it about facts.

Now let's drop it and play the damn game and get on with life. Too much time was wasted on this already.

The dumb ass followed him and what for the cop told him not to soo its his fault when the cop says dont follow then you shouldn't follow but oh no supeman saw a black kid in a hoody so he had to be a bad person

Look brah, no offense here - but self-righteously seizing the high ground, labeling everyone "racist" who doesn't see everything exactly as you do and, most importantly, wishing evil on others only serves to debase your argument making it moot. This Zimmerman/Trayvon case is far more complicated (and quite frankly more depressingly sad) than it is being presented in most media outlets - it's not a simple case, and its not a simple issue

Speaking as a black guy here (any otha brothas out there?!) I think this thread should be closed for obvious flame baiting and lack of relevance to New Eden

Does not belong here.

Sorry but TM got what he wanted, a fight.

GZ did nothing wrong, yet people want to convict him of what? Funny thing is where is the media attention for these stories?

Black man shoots white teen

or this one

12yo torched to death

TM was neither innocent, nor was GZ guilty. Stop making this about race and make it about facts.

Now let's drop it and play the damn game and get on with life. Too much time was wasted on this already.

Does not belong here on just the bad vibes that invites itself in like how trolls do. I would have this banished to the locker room but... I don't think it is an appropriate place there either.

Yeah, that first one is stupid. I don't think you read it. If their were three kids braking into cars around my neighborhood AND/OR hanging around my car i'd be liable to shoot one of them too when I confront them.

That second one is a terrible thing to hear about. Fortunately, she is obviously guilty, so some sort of justice will be served. Nothing to worry about.

I don't care about the Zimmerman thing at all. They said he was innocent. Nothing to bust a nut over. If I believed he wasn't, oh well. I guess the lesson i'd take from it all is to not walk around with Skittles and iced tea while wearing a hoody.

The dumb ass followed him and what for the cop told him not to soo its his fault when the cop says dont follow then you shouldn't follow but oh no supeman saw a black kid in a hoody so he had to be a bad person

you need to calm down and read the facts, not what the liberal media tells you, treyvon tackled him and continuously beat him with a brick while zim was yelling for him to stop and so zim pulled out his gun and killed treyv otherwise he wouldv killed him, did you also ignor the fact that Zimmerman was part of the neighborhood watch at the time it happened? hes was supostu follow suspicious people in case they do something illegal, did you also hear the entire recording of the conversation and not the edited version that NBC released

he wasn't killed because he was dressed like a thug, jesus youv been watching liberal news, he was trying to kill Zimmerman for no reason and Zimmerman defended himself, all there is to it

someone please just lock this thread..... this has no place in the forums at all

That's not all there is to it. Not that you give a damn.
Neighborhood watch is not law-enforcement.
GZ started the altercation with TM, and the fight didn't go as he expected, so I he shot him.
You attack someone, and when they're about to kill you in self-defense, you kill them and then claim self-defense?
If that seems okay to you, then you are as twisted as the Devil at a nightclub.
The jury set yet another very dangerous precedent by acquitting GZ, and not even finding him guilty of manslaughter.

Again, this thread is in the wrong section.

Got it, unless I take a knee and slit my own throat when someone with differently colored skin than my lily white ass looks at me funny, I'm a racist.

who has a running list of words they aren't allowed to say? Who generates protests, demands for blood, etc when they legally defend themselves? Who gets passed up for jobs when they have the exact same(or even slightly better in some cases) qualifications due to color quotas?

man kills a child? That's sad, but not really newsworthy. White man kills a *insert color here* child? Media circus, protests, demands for blood.

people want to act like race no longer matters, but the reality is that the line has shifted.

You're right.

Somebody should put them bacK in their place....

Killing is never good but good 'ol fashioned scare tactics might worK.

I THINK WE ALL NEED TO TAKE A NAP.

Shh!!

You'll wake up Trayv-

nvmd thats too much....

he is guilty of killing the teen but this has nothing to do with race in the 1st place, in the recording he was actually talking with the police at the time he was following the teen, however did you hear the conversation that the teen had with his friend? they were assuming that Zimmerman was gay and wanting to **** him so the teen took the offensive and landed the 1st hit, its the teens fault

I never mentioned race.
In fact, it's hard to understand why white people had any reason to weigh in racially on the situation when it took place between two minority men. Racial profiling was a part of this situation. It's a fact that GZ profiled him. Profiling is not "racism" it's prejudice. Profiling happens for very sound reasons.
However, profiling is not what lead to GZ killing TM. GZ's bad judgment and course of action is. He had no intention of killing TM. He just wanted to keep his neighborhood safe, and he got over zealous. However, his good intentions should have never overshadowed the fact that he killed someone, in a situation that he provoked and caused.

You need to keep in mind, Zimmerman did not identify himself as neighborhood watch to Martin. He was stalking him without a word.
If someone is simply stalking and following you, you are going to make all kinds of assumptions.

Truth be told, this is exactly why my father taught me to make sure I was well-dressed and well-groomed whenever I went out. To avoid idiots like Zimmerman. As wrong as it is to profile someone, it happens. People judge a book by its cover, ALL the time. That's why we should always make sure we look presentable. If Martin was dressed like a street preacher or a Mormon, Zimmerman would have never profiled him incorrectly.

Doesn't change the fact, that Zimmerman took a life through a situation that he provoked, although well-intentioned. A murder conviction would be extreme, an involuntary manslaughter or aggravated manslaughter charge would have been appropriate, but an acquittal shows a total disregard for the life lost. That sets a dangerous precedent and can lead to all kinds of political problems... Anti-gun advocates can look at this and demand more govt arms regulations saying:
"If the gun wasn't there TM would have never went for it, and GZ would have never used it. No one would have got shot."
ALL sorts of worms have been let out because of this case.

Race is the smallest of them.

It got attention because what happened sparked a national discussion about Stand Your Ground laws. Splitting the country on two sides of what they believe was correct, with a few 'facts' on both sides that are way skewed; leading to more discussion.

No body cares to talk about incidents where there is no question about who was right or wrong.

I can go into why its inherently racist to post links to "look at these black people killing white people too! no one talked about that!?" because it misses the entire point of the topic.

I never mentioned race.
In fact, it's hard to understand why white people had any reason to weigh in racially on the situation when it took place between two minority men. Racial profiling was a part of this situation. It's a fact that GZ profiled him. Profiling is not "racism" it's prejudice. Profiling happens for very sound reasons.
However, profiling is not what lead to GZ killing TM. GZ's bad judgment and course of action is. He had no intention of killing TM. He just wanted to keep his neighborhood safe, and he got over zealous. However, his good intentions should have never overshadowed the fact that he killed someone, in a situation that he provoked and caused.

You need to keep in mind, Zimmerman did not identify himself as neighborhood watch to Martin. He was stalking him without a word.
If someone is simply stalking and following you, you are going to make all kinds of assumptions.

Truth be told, this is exactly why my father taught me to make sure I was well-dressed and well-groomed whenever I went out. To avoid idiots like Zimmerman. As wrong as it is to profile someone, it happens. People judge a book by its cover, ALL the time. That's why we should always make sure we look presentable. If Martin was dressed like a street preacher or a Mormon, Zimmerman would have never profiled him incorrectly.

Doesn't change the fact, that Zimmerman took a life through a situation that he provoked, although well-intentioned. A murder conviction would be extreme, an involuntary manslaughter or aggravated manslaughter charge would have been appropriate, but an acquittal shows a total disregard for the life lost. That sets a dangerous precedent and can lead to all kinds of political problems... Anti-gun advocates can look at this and demand more govt arms regulations saying:
"If the gun wasn't there TM would have never went for it, and GZ would have never used it. No one would have got shot."
ALL sorts of worms have been let out because of this case.

Race is the smallest of them.

Following someone is not illegal. Beating someone up is. Protecting yourself is not illegal (except in california).

I can follow you and i can saw whatever i want. Doesn't give you a right to kick my ass.

Gz is morally in the wrong. Tm is legally in the wrong. And dead.

"no one would've gotten shot"

yeah. it would have been someone stabbed, or getting beaten to death. An acquittal shows that the jury did their jobs in casting aside emotion to follow the facts and rule of law.

TM struck first. GZ had genuine fear for his life(whether said fear was rational or not is outside the law). which allowed for the usage of lethal force on his part to defend his life.

Thereby, acquittal was the appropriate verdict according to the law, which is to be the singular lens when the jury is to render a verdict. No emotion, no race, no religion, just the law.

Actually stalking is illegal.... in every state.
Stalking wasn't one of the charges... feel free to speculate on the "why" of that as much as you want.
Doesn't change the justice system's failure in this case.

Stay away from Florida. Get into a fight with someone there, and they can kill you and simply say you went for their gun.
Damn happy I don't live there anymore.

In Florida, if you attack someone, and they start to kick your ass, you have the right to kill them.
Have fun.

"no one would've gotten shot"

yeah. it would have been someone stabbed, or getting beaten to death. An acquittal shows that the jury did their jobs in casting aside emotion to follow the facts and rule of law.

TM struck first. GZ had genuine fear for his life(whether said fear was rational or not is outside the law). which allowed for the usage of lethal force on his part to defend his life.

Thereby, acquittal was the appropriate verdict according to the law, which is to be the singular lens when the jury is to render a verdict. No emotion, no race, no religion, just the law.

Stalking is NOT following. Public property was never left.

Tm didn't have any cuts or bruising to suggested he was attacked. So where does that come into play? Completely make believe.

You have no sense of tact you freaking idiot! I hope you pay for such stupidity. Making light of a situation that clearly creates a broad line between the ignorant racists and the folks who recognize this as an injustice.

I hope something bad happens to you this week

Simple Google search.
2011 Florida Statutes 784.048

Definition 2 of stalking: "Harass or persecute (someone) with unwanted and obsessive attention."

If you can't see the faults that BOTH sides have in this case, then you have one of the worse cases of confirmation bias that I have ever seen, and that makes your analysis no more insightful than the jury.
"Tyranny of the majority".

GÇ£Had every Athenian citizen been a Socrates, every Athenian assembly would still have been a mob.GÇ¥ -- The Federalist No. 55

May I never find myself on the bench of judgment before a jury of my fellow Americans. I hate you guys.

Even if that broad generalization covered Gz, is the punishment for that misdmeanor a fine? Or is it getting your ass kicked?

I'm pretty sure no crime comes with a punishment of a beating.

However the crime of battering someone does give you the option of defending yourself.

You make up tm being under attack which never happened. Why don't you want to talk about that anymore?

substantive is separate from procedural for a reason. you cannot evaluate the law on an individual basis, picking and choosing how to apply the law to each and every crime, or else we just become a bunch of blood for blood screaming children, demanding the law change with every crime.

The law should be evaluated regularly, but should not on a "oh well I don't like how it worked this time" basis. The law should be evaluated for its capacity to protect those whom live under it's rule. If a law does not provide for the protection of the general public, it should not exist.

As the law stands, GZ is in the right. TM was also in the right until he decided to confront and attack GZ. after that, he was in the wrong. GZ then killed him as he felt his life was threatened(again, rational or irrational fear is irrelevant). GZ never left his legal rights. TM did.

I do not rewrite laws to my favor. I follow the ones that agree with my current path.

This man understands.

I am a man of rules. I do not let my emotions govern my movements as they've... led to poor choices of action in my past.

substantive is separate from procedural for a reason. you cannot evaluate the law on an individual basis, picking and choosing how to apply the law to each and every crime, or else we just become a bunch of blood for blood screaming children, demanding the law change with every crime.

The law should be evaluated regularly, but should not on a "oh well I don't like how it worked this time" basis. The law should be evaluated for its capacity to protect those whom live under it's rule. If a law does not provide for the protection of the general public, it should not exist.

As the law stands, GZ is in the right. TM was also in the right until he decided to confront and attack GZ. after that, he was in the wrong. GZ then killed him as he felt his life was threatened(again, rational or irrational fear is irrelevant). GZ never left his legal rights. TM did.

I do not rewrite laws to my favor. I follow the ones that agree with my current path.

he wasn't killed because he was dressed like a thug, jesus youv been watching liberal news, he was trying to kill Zimmerman for no reason and Zimmerman defended himself, all there is to it

This man understands.

*munch munch

Hilarious. Yes, let's fix race relations in the US in the DUST 514 FORUMS. You know, the enlightened place where changing the statistics of a piece of equipment in a video game erupts into a month long flame war.


Please don't feed the trolls. *cheesy music* "The more you know"

Ok, wait.

I assume you've all heard the recording of the phone conversation. So after being told not to follow the kid, he does so anyway, accosts him in a small space with limited room to escape, and Martin doesn't know if this guy is some serial killer or a pedophile or something.

I'm to understand that "Stand your Ground" only applies to the guy with the gun? What sense does that make? And would you really just stand there and hope the guy coming at you with a hostile manner doesn't want to hurt you or anything?

Your logic is pretty off there.

But all of that is beside the point.

Why is this even here? We have an Off Topic section for a reason.

Ok, wait.

I assume you've all heard the recording of the phone conversation. So after being told not to follow the kid, he does so anyway, accosts him in a small space with limited room to escape, and Martin doesn't know if this guy is some serial killer or a pedophile or something.

I'm to understand that "Stand your Ground" only applies to the guy with the gun? What sense does that make? And would you really just stand there and hope the guy coming at you with a hostile manner doesn't want to hurt you or anything?

Your logic is pretty off there.

But all of that is beside the point.

Why is this even here? We have an Off Topic section for a reason.

Aggressive manner is heresay. No evidence supports it.

Stand your ground law was not cited in this case. It was self defence laws. Standard ones that apply in nearly every state.

No you cannot attack someone who hasnt said anything threatening or attacked you. It's a crime.

The person who commited a CRIME died. No other crimes were committed.

GO!

Kindred spirits. Released from the military due to poor choices made regarding my fellow airmen. He broke no rules while i did. Kinda like tm.

Even if that broad generalization covered Gz, is the punishment for that misdmeanor a fine? Or is it getting your ass kicked?

I'm pretty sure no crime comes with a punishment of a beating.

However the crime of battering someone does give you the option of defending yourself.

You make up tm being under attack which never happened. Why don't you want to talk about that anymore?

Assault is a crime. Or did Gz scream for help and have a bloody face because he tripped and repeatedly slams his face in the ground and rub grass on his back?

Tm committed no crimes. Gosh darn that's hilarious.

I beat kid twice my size over his gloating about a fight I was in where he snuck up like a coward and slammed my head into a wall a week prior(I was fighting his little brother, nice and orderly, both sides agreed to orthodox boxing. Was winning by a bit, kid had a mean right.) It took 3 of his friends to pull me off of him.

I actually enjoyed that. I came home with a broken ankle, cracks in my forearms, shattered knuckles, busted ribs, and I loved that feeling. I've never forgotten it, I never want to feel that again.

He wouldn't admit to having gotten his ass beat by some scrawny little **** like me and I started it. So no consequences beyond being lectured by my parents about how monumentally stupid what I did was.

Edit: Evil me scares me that's basically the whole thing in a nutshell.

A stranger you don't know starts after you, 'not wanting you to get away' with something you haven't even done. I reckon "fight or flight" instincts would kick in for you too.
Assault only counts if you're the aggressor, which to public knowledge, Mr. Martin was NOT. Why don't you understand this?

A stranger you don't know starts after you, 'not wanting you to get away' with something you haven't even done. I reckon "fight or flight" instincts would kick in for you too.
Assault only counts if you're the aggressor, which to public knowledge, Mr. Martin was NOT. Why don't you understand this?

You're right.

Somebody should put them bacK in their place....

Killing is never good but good 'ol fashioned scare tactics might worK.

really? he didn't throw the first blow?

last I checked, swinging at someone first for any reason on public property where both of you have a right to be marks you as the aggressor under the law. following someone across public property is not a crime. christ, if that was a crime just about everyone would be guilty at some point or another just by having to go to the same relative places within a town.

Well, to be honest, you don't know who threw the first blow.

I seriously doubt, Martin, the unarmed person that was trying to run away did though. That's an opinion. lol oops. He didn't have a car. So much for running being useful anymore. I better turn and fight.

You seem to think that Zimmerman, the person in pursuit, had the intention of chasing him as vigorously as he did because he wanted to have a few words with him. lol oops! "I'm going to chase you down, because I have something I want to say."
Okay, shout to him then. Say "Wait!" Say, "Hey, chill! I'm not trying to hurt you!" "Hey! I'm with the neighborhood watch! Where are you headed?" "Don't run! I'm not your enemy!"

SOMETHING to indicate to the person that you're within ear shot of, that you have no intention of hurting them.

Would that be that hard? The person approaching another person is the one that sets the frame for the interaction.

Would that be that hard? The person approaching another person is the one that sets the frame for the interaction.

Why is this on the forums.

Got it, unless I take a knee and slit my own throat when someone with differently colored skin than my lily white ass looks at me funny, I'm a racist.

who has a running list of words they aren't allowed to say? Who generates protests, demands for blood, etc when they legally defend themselves? Who gets passed up for jobs when they have the exact same(or even slightly better in some cases) qualifications due to color quotas?

man kills a child? That's sad, but not really newsworthy. White man kills a *insert color here* child? Media circus, protests, demands for blood.

people want to act like race no longer matters, but the reality is that the line has shifted.

the law is the only truly moral barometer. it judges all equally based upon their actions within its rules. the only problem is that the laws are applied by man, and man is fallible. if man were removed from the equation, the law would be infallible.

It is for the same reason the tinkerer of talmacht rejected god and chose death as his child's godparent. it is that death is the only true and just being. he cares not for your wealth, not for your attempts to forstall, not for any thing but his predetermined rounds. If your time had come, he was there to collect, no begging, whimpering, bribery, or status could stay his hand.

whereas god allowed all manner of injustice when he had all the power to stop it. the poor died sick and starving, the rich got fat off the labor of the poor, the devil walked the earth freely.

Trayvon committed no crimes. This was already confirmed by the police officer who took the stand. The only person accused of committing a crime has been acquitted, regardless of him killing someone in an altercation that he provoked.

Weak.
I tell you to use your conscience and hold the lives of your fellow man as valuable, and you tell me about myths, the metaphysical, your belief that the law would be infallible without anyone to exercise it over. and that the law is the only true moral barometer?

Laws are based on Principles.
Example: Speed Limits, Traffic Lights, Lane Markers, are all implements of traffic law. What is the principle behind traffic law?
"To Drive Safely".

Even the god that you criticize had a law for his people. It said don't do this, don't do that, blah blah. Then later on he states that the principle behind is law is to simply: "Love thy God. Thyself, and thy fellow man."
Because if you give a pinch of a damn about someone else, you won't kill them, steal from them, etc etc.

I'm not here to teach you about Laws and Principles, but your statement on the law just frightens me as to how many weak-minded people walk this earth.

That is weak man. You got a lot of soul-searching to do.

I mean, the ridiculous thing is that what the jury effectively found is that no one was killed.

I tell you about what shapes my belief in absolutes and you continue to ***** that I have no soul because I place little value in the 7 billion people on this planet.

the god that I criticize had the power to act to enforce principles and did not act. he is less than worthless.

I said that the problem with law is that man is the one to apply it. Not that man should be free from it. in an ideal world, the would be no need of laws, but this is not and never shall be an ideal world.

I know where I keep my soul. I found it and discarded it long ago in the pain of others. you would attempt to speak of my weak mind, so I shall speak on your weak heart.

You, who condemn and damn others for following and applying the rules under which we live, complain that they should not apply just because you saw a picture of someone when they looked cute. Your heart is so weak that you would casually discard all that separates us from mere beasts. You sicken me you bleeding heart, you simpering, weak fool!

People like you are too weak in heart to live in this world. it will warp your values and break you. and I shall be there when you finally snap to the real view of things. I shall be standing there, resolute to offer you a hand so you can cast off your childish need to change the rules because you feel there is something special. No matter the amount of times you bat my hand away I will always be there, ready to welcome you to the real world.

Good night, and may you one day see the light of our cruel binary world.

EDIT: no, they effectively found that lethal force was applied within the law. they ruled out him having to deal with the legal ramifications of killing someone. Totally different items.

That pretty much sums it up. Self-defense would protect him from a murder conviction.... but not say an involuntary manslaughter or aggravated manslaughter conviction, because he STILL killed someone, even IF it was by means of a legal act.

Somehow, they essentially said he didn't kill anyone. lol

Hell yes, posting #108. irony FTW.(according to some Buddhism, there are 108 feelings.)

i-+ron-+ic
/-½-êr+ñnik/
Adjective
Using or characterized by irony.
Happening in the opposite way to what is expected, thus typically causing wry amusement.

That's not ironic.



I've chosen to correct you here, because the way in which you frame an argument is idiotic and i disagree with almost everything you've said, and don't have the inclination to encourage your misguided ethical and moral ramblings

These trial along with O.J., Michael Jackson, Lindsey Lohan etc etc are to get the masses attention away from the what is really going on. The stealing of the worlds wealth and the non stop drop to the bottom of the abyss. T.V. is the modern day coliseum. Foot ball and all sports are the gladiators and reality T.V. is the christian vs lion. We are being culled into a slumber as they steal our future and the future generation's wealth and freedom. Refuse to accept what they call truth and seek it for yourself. They are drawing your attention away from the truth.

the mind provides governance to the heart. a direction. without it, you have a bunch of meaningless fluff that screams out every time it sees something it decides is an injustice.

do not mistake my rules and their execution for subservience. I said that I follow the laws that are in line with my current goals nothing more, nothing less.

I am the person who changes the rules from the inside, over time. not some idiot rebel who has to become a martyr to get any change made.

it is because my mind rules my heart that I can abide the laws I do not enjoy, and the slings and arrows of those who bleed freely.

IN THE MIND is the battle truly won. you can force change on someone with your heart, but until their MIND accepts this change it is worthless.

Sorry about the poetic nature of my posting, while it is your ass I'm roasting, now I don't mean to be boasting, but in this debate, you would appear to be a reprobate, please do know that it is that which i hate.

Now let me sleep god-damn-it, you keep setting off my bloody-heart-dar. it's like a radar but it alerts me to people who don't like the world and think that posting on a forum will change anything about it.

This is what bleeding hearted children actually believe. You know nothing of law. Just stop.

Feel free to respond to any of my 6 other posts refuting all your arguments though.

GO!

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Alright, I'm getting bored now.

Someone pls lock this so I stop getting notifications.

These trial along with O.J., Michael Jackson, Lindsey Lohan etc etc are to get the masses attention away from the what is really going on. The stealing of the worlds wealth and the non stop drop to the bottom of the abyss. T.V. is the modern day coliseum. Foot ball and all sports are the gladiators and reality T.V. is the christian vs lion. We are being culled into a slumber as they steal our future and the future generation's wealth and freedom. Refuse to accept what they call truth and seek it for yourself. They are drawing your attention away from the truth.

A grown man racially profiled a 17 year old boy, while armed with a pistol, looking for trouble, approached and harrased a MINOR who was innocent and harming no one untill the adult offended the innocent boy, got his ass beat for it then murdered him.

Verizon lets the government listen to your calls, we let the airport security touch our balls, cameras and cops everywhere harrassing and getti ng away with it.

One boy stood against it alone and was murdered but some how is the distraction.

Your comment is a fine example of shallow and narrow vision mixed with desensitization.

The universe lobs a gimme to the revolution and the revolution whiffs hard.

Do tin foil hats come in medium?

Then go the fk to bed, instead of bothering to make rhymes, you crazy *******.




You take pride in not having a "bleeding heart" huh? Someone made you cry when you were little and you decided to be a hard ass by being an icy cold sentinel of law?
Look up what the purpose of the law actually is. Read some history. Look at some cases. Learn what a legal precedent is, then come back and read everything you posted. When you feel dumb about it, you'll see why I didn't respond to you.

These threads are the exact reason I hate the forums and the idiots who inhabit them.

A grown man racially profiled a 17 year old boy, while armed with a pistol, looking for trouble, approached and harrased a MINOR who was innocent and harming no one untill the adult offended the innocent boy, got his ass beat for it then murdered him.

Verizon lets the government listen to your calls, we let the airport security touch our balls, cameras and cops everywhere harrassing and getti ng away with it.

One boy stood against it alone and was murdered but some how is the distraction.

Your comment is a fine example of shallow and narrow vision mixed with desensitization.

The universe lobs a gimme to the revolution and the revolution whiffs hard.

These trial along with O.J., Michael Jackson, Lindsey Lohan etc etc are to get the masses attention away from the what is really going on. The stealing of the worlds wealth and the non stop drop to the bottom of the abyss. T.V. is the modern day coliseum. Foot ball and all sports are the gladiators and reality T.V. is the christian vs lion. We are being culled into a slumber as they steal our future and the future generation's wealth and freedom. Refuse to accept what they call truth and seek it for yourself. They are drawing your attention away from the truth.

Far from a hard ass just not completely blinded by emotion. You wanted to talk about the facts of the case until you were proven to not have watched the trial.

Then it becomes about changing the law and making a difference.

You wanted to talk about being kinder to your fellow man yet it is you who keeps resorting to insults.

The law has been abided by the surviving participate of the incident. It was not abides by the deceased.

If you want to get self defence laws changed that's good for you, but this isn't your platform or thread or medium to get it accomplished.

I never mentioned race.
In fact, it's hard to understand why white people had any reason to weigh in racially on the situation when it took place between two minority men. Racial profiling was a part of this situation. It's a fact that GZ profiled him. Profiling is not "racism" it's prejudice. Profiling happens for very sound reasons.
However, profiling is not what lead to GZ killing TM. GZ's bad judgment and course of action is. He had no intention of killing TM. He just wanted to keep his neighborhood safe, and he got over zealous. However, his good intentions should have never overshadowed the fact that he killed someone, in a situation that he provoked and caused.

You need to keep in mind, Zimmerman did not identify himself as neighborhood watch to Martin. He was stalking him without a word.
If someone is simply stalking and following you, you are going to make all kinds of assumptions.

Truth be told, this is exactly why my father taught me to make sure I was well-dressed and well-groomed whenever I went out. To avoid idiots like Zimmerman. As wrong as it is to profile someone, it happens. People judge a book by its cover, ALL the time. That's why we should always make sure we look presentable. If Martin was dressed like a street preacher or a Mormon, Zimmerman would have never profiled him incorrectly.

Doesn't change the fact, that Zimmerman took a life through a situation that he provoked, although well-intentioned. A murder conviction would be extreme, an involuntary manslaughter or aggravated manslaughter charge would have been appropriate, but an acquittal shows a total disregard for the life lost. That sets a dangerous precedent and can lead to all kinds of political problems... Anti-gun advocates can look at this and demand more govt arms regulations saying:
"If the gun wasn't there TM would have never went for it, and GZ would have never used it. No one would have got shot."
ALL sorts of worms have been let out because of this case.

Race is the smallest of them.

so you should be hanged for defending yourself? that's dumbassery right there... liberal biased media has gotten to you, theve never shown any facts about it

Gigatron.. What did you do -_-

I seriously thought it would have been locked by now...

Well just post. "STOP!"

Maybe you can reverse the spell!

4 minutes. TM had 4 minutes to run. He didn't. He turned to be a badass.

GZ gave him 4 minutes to make a decision before he fired the minimum number of shots to STOP the guy coming at him with his face hidden by a hoodie.

I'd of fired too at that point. Doesn't matter what color you are. I'm an equal opportunity gunslinger.

4 minutes. TM had 4 minutes to run. He didn't. He turned to be a badass.

GZ gave him 4 minutes to make a decision before he fired the minimum number of shots to STOP the guy coming at him with his face hidden by a hoodie.

I'd of fired too at that point. Doesn't matter what color you are. I'm an equal opportunity gunslinger.

Oh please with that reverse psychology. This type of thread shouldn't even be allowed here because it's a platform to bring about racist remarks, met with hostility and just overall bad etiquette.

It's like discussing politics at work. You don't do that. Stupid OP. I hope murder taxis ruin his next 50 games

I once went hunting elk with my old man. While we were loading the buck onto the truck, he said to me

"Pup, you know what the difference between this dead animal and a dead human?"

Not knowing what to say, I said nothing.

"Nothing. There is no god damn difference. So you take care of yours."


Some believe that the minute you lay your hands on someone for what ever reason, you forfeit your life or value. whether latino or white guy from Texas who killed a black man. Guy probably would have walked on that basis.

"But how can that be? I persons life is not so cheap." Those are your own personal views. You will be surprised at how many feel different.

GO!

Why?

I want to see the world burn.

I think Zimmerman was right to be acquitted. Though if he had been accused of a lesser charge he should have been sentenced to community service... I'd recommend community watch.