A stranger you don't know starts after you, 'not wanting you to get away' with something you haven't even done. I reckon "fight or flight" instincts would kick in for you too.
Assault only counts if you're the aggressor, which to public knowledge, Mr. Martin was NOT. Why don't you understand this?

You're right.

Somebody should put them bacK in their place....

Killing is never good but good 'ol fashioned scare tactics might worK.

really? he didn't throw the first blow?

last I checked, swinging at someone first for any reason on public property where both of you have a right to be marks you as the aggressor under the law. following someone across public property is not a crime. christ, if that was a crime just about everyone would be guilty at some point or another just by having to go to the same relative places within a town.

Well, to be honest, you don't know who threw the first blow.

I seriously doubt, Martin, the unarmed person that was trying to run away did though. That's an opinion. lol oops. He didn't have a car. So much for running being useful anymore. I better turn and fight.

You seem to think that Zimmerman, the person in pursuit, had the intention of chasing him as vigorously as he did because he wanted to have a few words with him. lol oops! "I'm going to chase you down, because I have something I want to say."
Okay, shout to him then. Say "Wait!" Say, "Hey, chill! I'm not trying to hurt you!" "Hey! I'm with the neighborhood watch! Where are you headed?" "Don't run! I'm not your enemy!"

SOMETHING to indicate to the person that you're within ear shot of, that you have no intention of hurting them.

Would that be that hard? The person approaching another person is the one that sets the frame for the interaction.

Would that be that hard? The person approaching another person is the one that sets the frame for the interaction.

Why is this on the forums.

Got it, unless I take a knee and slit my own throat when someone with differently colored skin than my lily white ass looks at me funny, I'm a racist.

who has a running list of words they aren't allowed to say? Who generates protests, demands for blood, etc when they legally defend themselves? Who gets passed up for jobs when they have the exact same(or even slightly better in some cases) qualifications due to color quotas?

man kills a child? That's sad, but not really newsworthy. White man kills a *insert color here* child? Media circus, protests, demands for blood.

people want to act like race no longer matters, but the reality is that the line has shifted.

the law is the only truly moral barometer. it judges all equally based upon their actions within its rules. the only problem is that the laws are applied by man, and man is fallible. if man were removed from the equation, the law would be infallible.

It is for the same reason the tinkerer of talmacht rejected god and chose death as his child's godparent. it is that death is the only true and just being. he cares not for your wealth, not for your attempts to forstall, not for any thing but his predetermined rounds. If your time had come, he was there to collect, no begging, whimpering, bribery, or status could stay his hand.

whereas god allowed all manner of injustice when he had all the power to stop it. the poor died sick and starving, the rich got fat off the labor of the poor, the devil walked the earth freely.

Trayvon committed no crimes. This was already confirmed by the police officer who took the stand. The only person accused of committing a crime has been acquitted, regardless of him killing someone in an altercation that he provoked.

Weak.
I tell you to use your conscience and hold the lives of your fellow man as valuable, and you tell me about myths, the metaphysical, your belief that the law would be infallible without anyone to exercise it over. and that the law is the only true moral barometer?

Laws are based on Principles.
Example: Speed Limits, Traffic Lights, Lane Markers, are all implements of traffic law. What is the principle behind traffic law?
"To Drive Safely".

Even the god that you criticize had a law for his people. It said don't do this, don't do that, blah blah. Then later on he states that the principle behind is law is to simply: "Love thy God. Thyself, and thy fellow man."
Because if you give a pinch of a damn about someone else, you won't kill them, steal from them, etc etc.

I'm not here to teach you about Laws and Principles, but your statement on the law just frightens me as to how many weak-minded people walk this earth.

That is weak man. You got a lot of soul-searching to do.

I mean, the ridiculous thing is that what the jury effectively found is that no one was killed.

I tell you about what shapes my belief in absolutes and you continue to ***** that I have no soul because I place little value in the 7 billion people on this planet.

the god that I criticize had the power to act to enforce principles and did not act. he is less than worthless.

I said that the problem with law is that man is the one to apply it. Not that man should be free from it. in an ideal world, the would be no need of laws, but this is not and never shall be an ideal world.

I know where I keep my soul. I found it and discarded it long ago in the pain of others. you would attempt to speak of my weak mind, so I shall speak on your weak heart.

You, who condemn and damn others for following and applying the rules under which we live, complain that they should not apply just because you saw a picture of someone when they looked cute. Your heart is so weak that you would casually discard all that separates us from mere beasts. You sicken me you bleeding heart, you simpering, weak fool!

People like you are too weak in heart to live in this world. it will warp your values and break you. and I shall be there when you finally snap to the real view of things. I shall be standing there, resolute to offer you a hand so you can cast off your childish need to change the rules because you feel there is something special. No matter the amount of times you bat my hand away I will always be there, ready to welcome you to the real world.

Good night, and may you one day see the light of our cruel binary world.

EDIT: no, they effectively found that lethal force was applied within the law. they ruled out him having to deal with the legal ramifications of killing someone. Totally different items.

That pretty much sums it up. Self-defense would protect him from a murder conviction.... but not say an involuntary manslaughter or aggravated manslaughter conviction, because he STILL killed someone, even IF it was by means of a legal act.

Somehow, they essentially said he didn't kill anyone. lol

Hell yes, posting #108. irony FTW.(according to some Buddhism, there are 108 feelings.)

i-+ron-+ic
/-½-êr+ñnik/
Adjective
Using or characterized by irony.
Happening in the opposite way to what is expected, thus typically causing wry amusement.

That's not ironic.



I've chosen to correct you here, because the way in which you frame an argument is idiotic and i disagree with almost everything you've said, and don't have the inclination to encourage your misguided ethical and moral ramblings

These trial along with O.J., Michael Jackson, Lindsey Lohan etc etc are to get the masses attention away from the what is really going on. The stealing of the worlds wealth and the non stop drop to the bottom of the abyss. T.V. is the modern day coliseum. Foot ball and all sports are the gladiators and reality T.V. is the christian vs lion. We are being culled into a slumber as they steal our future and the future generation's wealth and freedom. Refuse to accept what they call truth and seek it for yourself. They are drawing your attention away from the truth.

the mind provides governance to the heart. a direction. without it, you have a bunch of meaningless fluff that screams out every time it sees something it decides is an injustice.

do not mistake my rules and their execution for subservience. I said that I follow the laws that are in line with my current goals nothing more, nothing less.

I am the person who changes the rules from the inside, over time. not some idiot rebel who has to become a martyr to get any change made.

it is because my mind rules my heart that I can abide the laws I do not enjoy, and the slings and arrows of those who bleed freely.

IN THE MIND is the battle truly won. you can force change on someone with your heart, but until their MIND accepts this change it is worthless.

Sorry about the poetic nature of my posting, while it is your ass I'm roasting, now I don't mean to be boasting, but in this debate, you would appear to be a reprobate, please do know that it is that which i hate.

Now let me sleep god-damn-it, you keep setting off my bloody-heart-dar. it's like a radar but it alerts me to people who don't like the world and think that posting on a forum will change anything about it.

This is what bleeding hearted children actually believe. You know nothing of law. Just stop.

Feel free to respond to any of my 6 other posts refuting all your arguments though.

GO!

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Alright, I'm getting bored now.

Someone pls lock this so I stop getting notifications.

These trial along with O.J., Michael Jackson, Lindsey Lohan etc etc are to get the masses attention away from the what is really going on. The stealing of the worlds wealth and the non stop drop to the bottom of the abyss. T.V. is the modern day coliseum. Foot ball and all sports are the gladiators and reality T.V. is the christian vs lion. We are being culled into a slumber as they steal our future and the future generation's wealth and freedom. Refuse to accept what they call truth and seek it for yourself. They are drawing your attention away from the truth.

A grown man racially profiled a 17 year old boy, while armed with a pistol, looking for trouble, approached and harrased a MINOR who was innocent and harming no one untill the adult offended the innocent boy, got his ass beat for it then murdered him.

Verizon lets the government listen to your calls, we let the airport security touch our balls, cameras and cops everywhere harrassing and getti ng away with it.

One boy stood against it alone and was murdered but some how is the distraction.

Your comment is a fine example of shallow and narrow vision mixed with desensitization.

The universe lobs a gimme to the revolution and the revolution whiffs hard.

Do tin foil hats come in medium?

Then go the fk to bed, instead of bothering to make rhymes, you crazy *******.




You take pride in not having a "bleeding heart" huh? Someone made you cry when you were little and you decided to be a hard ass by being an icy cold sentinel of law?
Look up what the purpose of the law actually is. Read some history. Look at some cases. Learn what a legal precedent is, then come back and read everything you posted. When you feel dumb about it, you'll see why I didn't respond to you.

These threads are the exact reason I hate the forums and the idiots who inhabit them.