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calvin b
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
77
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Posted - 2013.07.21 08:28:00 -
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HYENAKILLER X wrote:calvin b wrote:These trial along with O.J., Michael Jackson, Lindsey Lohan etc etc are to get the masses attention away from the what is really going on. The stealing of the worlds wealth and the non stop drop to the bottom of the abyss. T.V. is the modern day coliseum. Foot ball and all sports are the gladiators and reality T.V. is the christian vs lion. We are being culled into a slumber as they steal our future and the future generation's wealth and freedom. Refuse to accept what they call truth and seek it for yourself. They are drawing your attention away from the truth. A grown man racially profiled a 17 year old boy, while armed with a pistol, looking for trouble, approached and harrased a MINOR who was innocent and harming no one untill the adult offended the innocent boy, got his ass beat for it then murdered him. Verizon lets the government listen to your calls, we let the airport security touch our balls, cameras and cops everywhere harrassing and getti ng away with it. One boy stood against it alone and was murdered but some how is the distraction. Your comment is a fine example of shallow and narrow vision mixed with desensitization. The universe lobs a gimme to the revolution and the revolution whiffs hard.
Shallow and narrow vision. I think globally not locally. Question how many Rwandans died in 1994, 500,000+ it was a genocide. How much is the nation debt, over 16 trillion. What do these things have in common, and the answer is greed. You need to look beyond faux news and cnn and look at the broader picture. People are dying everyday because man is greedy, shallow, and refuses to grow up. Man is like a virus it destroys its host(Earth) and will eventually destroy itself. Mankind is doomed for extinction and the only saving grace we may have is our children. I can only hope we the masses can put our selfish and manipulative ways aside and do good for once.
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Rahl Draak
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
6
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Posted - 2013.07.21 09:06:00 -
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calvin b wrote:These trial along with O.J., Michael Jackson, Lindsey Lohan etc etc are to get the masses attention away from the what is really going on. The stealing of the worlds wealth and the non stop drop to the bottom of the abyss. T.V. is the modern day coliseum. Foot ball and all sports are the gladiators and reality T.V. is the christian vs lion. We are being culled into a slumber as they steal our future and the future generation's wealth and freedom. Refuse to accept what they call truth and seek it for yourself. They are drawing your attention away from the truth.
Well, this guy works for minimum wage, and is not too happy about it.
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Jathniel
G I A N T EoN.
681
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Posted - 2013.07.21 09:07:00 -
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Eurydice Itzhak wrote:Jathniel wrote:Heathen Bastard wrote:the mind provides governance to the heart. a direction. without it, you have a bunch of meaningless fluff that screams out every time it sees something it decides is an injustice.
do not mistake my rules and their execution for subservience. I said that I follow the laws that are in line with my current goals nothing more, nothing less.
I am the person who changes the rules from the inside, over time. not some idiot rebel who has to become a martyr to get any change made.
it is because my mind rules my heart that I can abide the laws I do not enjoy, and the slings and arrows of those who bleed freely.
IN THE MIND is the battle truly won. you can force change on someone with your heart, but until their MIND accepts this change it is worthless.
Sorry about the poetic nature of my posting, while it is your ass I'm roasting, now I don't mean to be boasting, but in this debate, you would appear to be a reprobate, please do know that it is that which i hate.
Now let me sleep god-damn-it, you keep setting off my bloody-heart-dar. it's like a radar but it alerts me to people who don't like the world and think that posting on a forum will change anything about it. Then go the fk to bed, instead of bothering to make rhymes, you crazy *******. Eurydice Itzhak wrote:This is what bleeding hearted children actually believe. You know nothing of law. Just stop.
Feel free to respond to any of my 6 other posts refuting all your arguments though. You take pride in not having a "bleeding heart" huh? Someone made you cry when you were little and you decided to be a hard ass by being an icy cold sentinel of law? Look up what the purpose of the law actually is. Read some history. Look at some cases. Learn what a legal precedent is, then come back and read everything you posted. When you feel dumb about it, you'll see why I didn't respond to you. Far from a hard ass just not completely blinded by emotion. You wanted to talk about the facts of the case until you were proven to not have watched the trial. Then it becomes about changing the law and making a difference. You wanted to talk about being kinder to your fellow man yet it is you who keeps resorting to insults. The law has been abided by the surviving participate of the incident. It was not abides by the deceased. If you want to get self defence laws changed that's good for you, but this isn't your platform or thread or medium to get it accomplished.
Keep resorting to insults? What are you talking about? I haven't insulted you. The only problem with this case is the precedent it set, and the amount of legal wrangling that is going to get started from it. Even the POTUS, as much as I don't approve of his administration's actions, said it. The jury has spoken, the precedent set is dangerous. An armed individual had an exit option for an engagement, but chose to follow, fight and kill someone instead. That's a deadly precedent for this country, no matter what law you quote.
What's worse is what it COULD mean for gun rights, self-defense laws, etc. At the CORE of it, is how much human life is valued, and people that agree with the verdict aren't paying attention to what that could mean for them. The government has a history of taking away civil liberties, or taking extreme action, when it feels that citizens are using those liberties against each other, or it simply deems something needed. This came from the Necessary and Proper Clause, which we can thank for the existence of the god awful central banking (Federal Reserve). Even things like "Right-to-work" laws; where people were using the rules of labor unions in unscrupulous ways. Their injustice to their fellow citizens, essentially prompted the government to do an injustice to them, and strip them of their right to make their rules as they see fit. Hypersegregation, then desegregation by the government. Leading to "Equal Housing" laws etc. Instead of using the right to live where we wanted to live with people we wanted to live with, and being tolerant of others. People started using their rights to BLOCK people they did not like from living in nice neighborhoods, and keeping they didn't like out of nice schools, etc. So the government jumped in, and basically took away that right to decide who your neighbors would be, because they were using that right to impeded the success of others. As cool and right as it may feel to sit here and value law over puny emotional things like "truth and justice and love"...it all comes back around to principles.
If people don't want to see anymore injustice done, they need to stop devaluing each other's lives, and prejudging negatively. Otherwise, yet more rights will be stripped, and they'll start going crazy like our boy Heathen, and others who believe that the world is turning against white people (or some batshit crazy crap like that).
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First Prophet
Jaguar Empire
677
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Posted - 2013.07.21 09:33:00 -
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7 pages? Why'd you guys fall for the troll trap so easily? |
Nosid Katona
HavoK Core RISE of LEGION
9
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Posted - 2013.07.21 10:11:00 -
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Jathniel wrote:Void Echo wrote:Jathniel wrote:Void Echo wrote:Jathniel wrote:You are aware that the NDAA was signed again during that entire bullshit trial and incident right? Far more things to be concerned about.
There's truckloads of injustice going on all over our country, and our god damned planet.
Should a woman be raped for dressing like a *****? No. Should a man be shot for dressing like a thug? No.
Does it still happen? Yes. Are people idiots? Yes.
Take this BS out of General Discussion and put it in The Locker Room. I don't come to these forums to see this ****. he wasn't killed because he was dressed like a thug, jesus youv been watching liberal news, he was trying to kill Zimmerman for no reason and Zimmerman defended himself, all there is to it That's not all there is to it. Not that you give a damn. Neighborhood watch is not law-enforcement. GZ started the altercation with TM, and the fight didn't go as he expected, so I he shot him. You attack someone, and when they're about to kill you in self-defense, you kill them and then claim self-defense? If that seems okay to you, then you are as twisted as the Devil at a nightclub. The jury set yet another very dangerous precedent by acquitting GZ, and not even finding him guilty of manslaughter. Again, this thread is in the wrong section. he is guilty of killing the teen but this has nothing to do with race in the 1st place, in the recording he was actually talking with the police at the time he was following the teen, however did you hear the conversation that the teen had with his friend? they were assuming that Zimmerman was gay and wanting to **** him so the teen took the offensive and landed the 1st hit, its the teens fault I never mentioned race. In fact, it's hard to understand why white people had any reason to weigh in racially on the situation when it took place between two minority men. Racial profiling was a part of this situation. It's a fact that GZ profiled him. Profiling is not "racism" it's prejudice. Profiling happens for very sound reasons. However, profiling is not what lead to GZ killing TM. GZ's bad judgment and course of action is. He had no intention of killing TM. He just wanted to keep his neighborhood safe, and he got over zealous. However, his good intentions should have never overshadowed the fact that he killed someone, in a situation that he provoked and caused. You need to keep in mind, Zimmerman did not identify himself as neighborhood watch to Martin. He was stalking him without a word. If someone is simply stalking and following you, you are going to make all kinds of assumptions. Truth be told, this is exactly why my father taught me to make sure I was well-dressed and well-groomed whenever I went out. To avoid idiots like Zimmerman. As wrong as it is to profile someone, it happens. People judge a book by its cover, ALL the time. That's why we should always make sure we look presentable. If Martin was dressed like a street preacher or a Mormon, Zimmerman would have never profiled him incorrectly. Doesn't change the fact, that Zimmerman took a life through a situation that he provoked, although well-intentioned. A murder conviction would be extreme, an involuntary manslaughter or aggravated manslaughter charge would have been appropriate, but an acquittal shows a total disregard for the life lost. That sets a dangerous precedent and can lead to all kinds of political problems... Anti-gun advocates can look at this and demand more govt arms regulations saying: "If the gun wasn't there TM would have never went for it, and GZ would have never used it. No one would have got shot." ALL sorts of worms have been let out because of this case. Race is the smallest of them.
While I connot even fathom what has brought me to even read this thread or much less to post in this insensitive and godawful excuse for trollbait your post makes me feel I should at least try to explain why I believe the whole racial profiling between whites and blacks (or whatever you wanna call them; honestly being politically correct can kiss my ass, i am too tired and honestly don't care enough even when awake.) and that whole argument started. First let me start off by saying I agree with most if not all your post; i like you was taught to always make myself presentable and always to show mutual civility and respect, while always keeping on my guard ready to defend myself to the end and to take everything im told with a grain of salt. To the point; white people weighing in as you put it started for me very early in the 'Zimmerman case' when flipping through channels and happening upon MSNBC talking about said case. While the quality and one-sidedness of the news coverage was... Well was what I would expect of MSNBC one thing inparticular caught my eye; they referred to Zimmerman as a 'White-Hispanic'. As much as that term and use thereof baffles me that is when I noticed people starting to say it was a racially motivated murder by a white man killing a black teen; I wish I could find a video of said new coverage so you would have more then just my word.
I'd rather not go any further then that; I view loss of life as a tragedy and have very conflicting feelings of this case, how it has progressed, and especially how it has been handled by the media. As has been said several times before this thread should either be locked or downright deleted; it has no place here and was a waste of all of our times.
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Jason Pearson
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1994
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Posted - 2013.07.21 10:23:00 -
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Gigatron.. What did you do -_- |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
847
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Posted - 2013.07.21 10:27:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Zimmerman is a complete dumb ass and should be hanged so you should be hanged for defending yourself? that's dumbassery right there... liberal biased media has gotten to you, theve never shown any facts about it
Lol, "liberal bias" used. Your argument is invalid. Sarah Palin wants to give you a cookie though. |
Gigatron Prime
The.Primes
292
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Posted - 2013.07.21 10:34:00 -
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Jason Pearson wrote:Gigatron.. What did you do -_- I seriously thought it would have been locked by now... |
Allah's Snackbar
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
426
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Posted - 2013.07.21 11:06:00 -
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Gigatron Prime wrote:Jason Pearson wrote:Gigatron.. What did you do -_- I seriously thought it would have been locked by now... Well just post. "STOP!"
Maybe you can reverse the spell! |
Ncredible Beast
NEW AGE EMPIRE
99
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Posted - 2013.07.21 11:11:00 -
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Allah's Snackbar wrote:Gigatron Prime wrote:Jason Pearson wrote:Gigatron.. What did you do -_- I seriously thought it would have been locked by now... Well just post. "STOP!" Maybe you can reverse the spell! I did that on the first page... |
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Gigatron Prime
The.Primes
293
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Posted - 2013.07.21 11:22:00 -
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It wouldn't be so bad if I hadn't run out of popcorn 5 pages ago... |
Operative 1171 Aajli
D3LTA ACADEMY Inver Brass
86
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Posted - 2013.07.21 11:37:00 -
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4 minutes. TM had 4 minutes to run. He didn't. He turned to be a badass.
GZ gave him 4 minutes to make a decision before he fired the minimum number of shots to STOP the guy coming at him with his face hidden by a hoodie.
I'd of fired too at that point. Doesn't matter what color you are. I'm an equal opportunity gunslinger. |
Hecarim Van Hohen
Bullet Cluster
78
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Posted - 2013.07.21 11:38:00 -
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Who? |
Heathen Bastard
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
346
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Posted - 2013.07.21 11:56:00 -
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Operative 1171 Aajli wrote:4 minutes. TM had 4 minutes to run. He didn't. He turned to be a badass.
GZ gave him 4 minutes to make a decision before he fired the minimum number of shots to STOP the guy coming at him with his face hidden by a hoodie.
I'd of fired too at that point. Doesn't matter what color you are. I'm an equal opportunity gunslinger.
a whole four minutes? ****, I sprinted over mile when I had adrenaline going in 6(crazy girl convinced herself she was my GF, then her current BF caught wind of it and long story short, running, overpaying for a soda, shattering some ribs with a well placed elbow and then more running. then a bus) I would've been well out of pistol range except in the case of exceptional marksmanship(and exceptional luck)
I didn't even know the 4 minutes bit. martin just went from overzealous and pushing his luck to just outright stupid.
somebody has a gun on you and gives you the option of leaving peaceably, what do you do? leave. unless you have specific training for that particular kind of situation, you're going to die or be severely injured, then bleed out and die. Oh, and that might still happen even if you have the proper training. |
Heavy Andrew Flowers
GUNNING HEAVY STYLE
0
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Posted - 2013.07.21 13:00:00 -
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this thread is an example of the stupidity humans can produce in a couple of hours. I think Einstein had a quote that goes, "there are two things that are infinite, human stupidity and the universe, and i'm not sure about the second one." I read it in the Darwin awards book. |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
848
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Posted - 2013.07.21 14:35:00 -
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Operative 1171 Aajli wrote:4 minutes. TM had 4 minutes to run. He didn't. He turned to be a badass.
GZ gave him 4 minutes to make a decision before he fired the minimum number of shots to STOP the guy coming at him with his face hidden by a hoodie.
I'd of fired too at that point. Doesn't matter what color you are. I'm an equal opportunity gunslinger.
So Trayvon Martin doesn't have the same stand your ground right as George Zimmerman? Nice, great logic there. |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
848
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Posted - 2013.07.21 14:41:00 -
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An earlier post of mine in this thread has vanished. What the hell? |
DeadlyAztec11
Max-Pain-inc Dark Taboo
1591
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Posted - 2013.07.21 15:34:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Azura Sakura wrote:Michael Arck wrote:You have no sense of tact you freaking idiot! I hope you pay for such stupidity. Making light of a situation that clearly creates a broad line between the ignorant racists and the folks who recognize this as an injustice.
I hope something bad happens to you this week No sir. This is what they want you to do Oh please with that reverse psychology. This type of thread shouldn't even be allowed here because it's a platform to bring about racist remarks, met with hostility and just overall bad etiquette. It's like discussing politics at work. You don't do that. Stupid OP. I hope murder taxis ruin his next 50 games Oddly enough... You are the one with the worst etiquette |
DeadlyAztec11
Max-Pain-inc Dark Taboo
1591
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Posted - 2013.07.21 16:24:00 -
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Surt gods end wrote:I once went hunting elk with my old man. While we were loading the buck onto the truck, he said to me
"Pup, you know what the difference between this dead animal and a dead human?"
Not knowing what to say, I said nothing.
"Nothing. There is no god damn difference. So you take care of yours."
Some believe that the minute you lay your hands on someone for what ever reason, you forfeit your life or value. whether latino or white guy from Texas who killed a black man. Guy probably would have walked on that basis.
"But how can that be? I persons life is not so cheap." Those are your own personal views. You will be surprised at how many feel different. Can't agree more. Violence is so frequent and gruesome in some places, that reporters no longer report it. Examples include Africa as well as central and South America. |
DeadlyAztec11
Max-Pain-inc Dark Taboo
1591
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Posted - 2013.07.21 16:37:00 -
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I think Zimmerman was right to be acquitted. Though if he had been accused of a lesser charge he should have been sentenced to community service... I'd recommend community watch. |
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XxWarlordxX97
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
4177
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Posted - 2013.07.21 18:01:00 -
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Why? |
Gigatron Prime
The.Primes
304
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Posted - 2013.07.21 18:41:00 -
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I want to see the world burn. |
XxWarlordxX97
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
4178
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Posted - 2013.07.21 22:40:00 -
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Gigatron Prime wrote:I want to see the world burn.
Why? and I set your planet on fire
Thank you |
Heathen Bastard
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
348
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Posted - 2013.07.21 23:29:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:I think Zimmerman was right to be acquitted. Though if he had been accused of a lesser charge he should have been sentenced to community service... I'd recommend community watch.
He does seem to be pretty good at it. |
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CCP Eterne
C C P C C P Alliance
2511
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Posted - 2013.07.22 12:13:00 -
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I am locking this topic. Discussion pf politics and the like are not appropriate on the DUST 514 forums. EVE Online/DUST 514 Community Representative GÇ+ EVE Illuminati GÇ+ Fiction Adept
@CCP_Eterne GÇ+ @EVE_LiveEvents |
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