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Pikachu Power
XERCORE E X T E R M I N A T U S
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Posted - 2013.07.20 06:16:00 -
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Cast your votes here, please, and tell us why. If you say yes, say why, if you say no, tell us what makes those games better, in your mind. I'm genuinely curious. |
Rusty Shallows
Black Jackals
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Posted - 2013.07.20 06:18:00 -
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Yes, Dust will be around for as long as CCP is willing keep it going. How popular it will be is in much debate.
Aside I plan on playing allot of Destiny. Dust is going to be behind the eight ball with PvE when that game comes out. |
Pikachu Power
XERCORE E X T E R M I N A T U S
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Posted - 2013.07.20 06:19:00 -
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Rusty Shallows wrote:Yes, Dust will be around for as long as CCP is willing keep it going. How popular it will be is in much debate.
Aside I plan on playing allot of Destiny. Dust is going to be behind the eight ball with PvE when that game comes out.
Valid and not trolly. Thank you |
WyrmHero1945
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
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Posted - 2013.07.20 06:19:00 -
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It'll survive because it's made by CCP. <3 |
ZDub 303
TeamPlayers EoN.
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Posted - 2013.07.20 06:25:00 -
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I guess it all comes down to whether or not CCP is currently in the black on this game, and if it goes/stays in the red, how long will they continue to support it.
It would be a little naive to think FF14, BF4, PS2, and Destiny (and hell the Playstation 4 in general) wont each cause a drop in player base with this game. |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.07.20 06:25:00 -
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I'm still curious as to this mindset of only being able to play one game at a time. Don't any of you alternate?
I mean, right now I'm actively playing MechWarrior Living Legends, Hawken, Warframe, Sins of a Solar Empire, EVE, Ace Combat X and 5, WH40K Space Marine, and a bit of Halo: Reach on the side.
Am I just the only crazy one? |
Michael Arck
sephiroth clones D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
333
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Posted - 2013.07.20 06:28:00 -
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LOL! God forbid I'm playing two FPS games! Oh heavens no! How can I possibly play BF4 and also play Dust? The audacity!! |
Makyre Vahliha
GamersForChrist Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.07.20 06:32:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:I'm still curious as to this mindset of only being able to play one game at a time. Don't any of you alternate?
I mean, right now I'm actively playing MechWarrior Living Legends, Hawken, Warframe, Sins of a Solar Empire, EVE, Ace Combat X and 5, WH40K Space Marine, and a bit of Halo: Reach on the side.
Am I just the only crazy one?
It would seem the market would be over-saturated with all of those AAA games coming out. It is just becoming even more competitive now. Personally, I don't think most of them will succeed. But if they do, it'll be divided with groups of smaller audiences per game. Probably the only way for Dust to stay on top is to deliver the CARBON-Engined version of Dust 514 on the PS4, coupled with the updates from the PS3 version so far since it's still free to play.
Personally, I'm a little mad that MTAC hasn't come out on Dust 514. TitanFall is hoarding all the attention and it's only on XBox One and PC. Not a Xbox fan. |
Gigatron Prime
The.Primes
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Posted - 2013.07.20 06:34:00 -
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I'm just playing this until Destiny comes out. Once that happens I'll be purely AFK farming. |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.07.20 06:35:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:LOL! God forbid I'm playing two FPS games! Oh heavens no! How can I possibly play BF4 and also play Dust? The audacity!! Yeah, it's like that's how everyone seriously thinks, and I just don't get it. |
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THEAMAZING POTHEAD
Not Guilty EoN.
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Posted - 2013.07.20 06:43:00 -
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Gigatron Prime wrote:I'm just playing this until Destiny comes out. Once that happens I'll be purely AFK farming. This- except might be other way around, afking til destiny comes out. I think if CCP can appease its players atm, get groundbreaking features in quick(like player markets & much more EVE connection & increase size of matches, get better maps & modes) and if it updates to the carbon engine for the ps4 in like a year, (work on the carbon update while its live on ps3 still, the do a massive console switch) Then i believe this game would be the titan people wanted it to be. But do i think this will happen? No....no...no.......ccp dissapoints me :l |
Drud Green
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.07.20 06:44:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Michael Arck wrote:LOL! God forbid I'm playing two FPS games! Oh heavens no! How can I possibly play BF4 and also play Dust? The audacity!! Yeah, it's like that's how everyone seriously thinks, and I just don't get it.
You are right, you don't get it.
It's not about 'only playing 1 fps game', it's about 'why waste your time on dust when you could play theese games' |
LuckyLuke Wargan
HavoK Core RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.07.20 06:46:00 -
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NO, absolutely not. It will not survives thru the release of next gen consoles in its current state. If it wasen't for my awesome corp I would have already left. |
Shrapnels
The Order 1886
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Posted - 2013.07.20 06:48:00 -
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No, Crusty514 is NOT even surviving now |
Rusty Shallows
Black Jackals
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Posted - 2013.07.20 06:49:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:LOL! God forbid I'm playing two FPS games! Oh heavens no! How can I possibly play BF4 and also play Dust? The audacity!! Borderlands 2 and Dead Island Riptide (if that second one counts) in addition to Dust 514. Although it's been harder to get buddies I know to squad up with so game time has been dropping. That and this heat wave.
Dust will always have a returning effect with passive SP and new content. |
Pikachu Power
XERCORE E X T E R M I N A T U S
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Posted - 2013.07.20 06:49:00 -
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Drud Green wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:Michael Arck wrote:LOL! God forbid I'm playing two FPS games! Oh heavens no! How can I possibly play BF4 and also play Dust? The audacity!! Yeah, it's like that's how everyone seriously thinks, and I just don't get it. You are right, you don't get it. It's not about 'only playing 1 fps game', it's about 'why waste your time on dust when you could play these games'
hahahaha. +1 |
HYENAKILLER X
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.07.20 07:14:00 -
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Pikachu Power wrote:Cast your votes here, please, and tell us why. If you say yes, say why, if you say no, tell us what makes those games better, in your mind. I'm genuinely curious.
First off e3 was garbage this year. Outside of titan fall (xbox1) and killzone: shadow fall all games were crap.
Ask me why fully armored soldiers.......are wearing cloaks? Destiny will flop. The clutch thing for dust (and maybe trouble for us) is that dust will get a total graphical overhual and still be free to play. With no "real" titles outside of cod, bf and kz dust could easily emerge as the new game.
400 for console, 35 for web monthly, 80$ year for new psn. Dust has already made its money. Next gen should be great for this game.
What they need to do is run eve off of ps4. |
kiro of justice
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
10
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Posted - 2013.07.20 07:16:00 -
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PS4 = RIP DUST.
I won't be coming back when the PS4 hits. |
Allah's Snackbar
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.07.20 07:31:00 -
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Pikachu Power wrote:Cast your votes here, please, and tell us why. If you say yes, say why, if you say no, tell us what makes those games better, in your mind. I'm genuinely curious. Wrong question. CCP will obstinately make it go on profitable or not for at least another 18 months.
Near infinite funds but with a terrible strategy and a lazy developer attitude will tell whether it is a rusted 3,000 at peak or more if they can lose the hubris.
I don't think so though, it's not in CCPs nature. Once the PS4 is out and other titles you will see what the core player base for Dust is and it will bob around there, but it will be looooow.
The only thing that may change this is a port to PS4, but I wouldn't hold my breath. There's a few claims been made by CCP "C" suite execs who won't want them quoted back at them in a disparaging way - a second time. I.e. millions of players. |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.07.20 07:36:00 -
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HYENAKILLER X wrote:Pikachu Power wrote:Cast your votes here, please, and tell us why. If you say yes, say why, if you say no, tell us what makes those games better, in your mind. I'm genuinely curious. First off e3 was garbage this year. Outside of titan fall (xbox1) and killzone: shadow fall all games were crap. Ask me why fully armored soldiers.......are wearing cloaks? Destiny will flop. The clutch thing for dust (and maybe trouble for us) is that dust will get a total graphical overhual and still be free to play. With no "real" titles outside of cod, bf and kz dust could easily emerge as the new game. 400 for console, 35 for web monthly, 80$ year for new psn and 60+ $ a game? Dust has already made its money. Next gen should be great for this game. What they need to do is run eve off of ps4. Style maybe? Sometimes it's just about looking cool. |
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tribal wyvern
ZionTCD
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Posted - 2013.07.20 07:41:00 -
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Pikachu Power wrote:Cast your votes here, please, and tell us why. If you say yes, say why, if you say no, tell us what makes those games better, in your mind. I'm genuinely curious.
Dust will be around as long as new Eden is around, and we all know new Eden is 10 years old and getting stronger. It will be around as long as ccp is around. I will be playing destiny, ps2 and bf4 on ps4 because they are great titles, and so is dust. Granted dust is nowhere near its goal right now, but when the inevitble happens and bf4 etc starts to get old......the true potential of dust will be fulfilled. I'm keeping my ps3 for dust only, and it will always be hooked up to hdmi 1. Long live dust 514. |
Asirius Medaius
Planetary Response Organization
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Posted - 2013.07.20 08:35:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:I guess it all comes down to whether or not CCP is currently in the black on this game, and if it goes/stays in the red, how long will they continue to support it.
It would be a little naive to think FF14, BF4, PS2, and Destiny (and hell the Playstation 4 in general) wont each cause a drop in player base with this game.
The advantage is this though; You can play both at the same time. For those planning on getting the PS4, you can AFK in the MCC in Dust 514, until it gets much better, or until it gets released on the PS4 (which wont allow you to play PS4 games and Dust 514 simultaneously).
The only disadvantage about this is the fact that you may have a bit hindered internet connection on your PS4, and you may have a tad higher energy bill, but not anything ridiculously noticable. |
Asirius Medaius
Planetary Response Organization
38
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Posted - 2013.07.20 08:37:00 -
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Shrapnels wrote:No, Crusty514 is NOT even surviving now
+1 cause you made me laugh alot with that title for Dust (and it's pretty late at night). |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
752
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Posted - 2013.07.20 08:41:00 -
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Pikachu Power wrote:Cast your votes here, please, and tell us why. If you say yes, say why, if you say no, tell us what makes those games better, in your mind. I'm genuinely curious. dust has already kicked Planetside 2 in the balls...... dunno about the other two. |
J-Lewis
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
229
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Posted - 2013.07.20 08:49:00 -
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Yeah, it'll last... but likely with a skeleton crew of loyal players sprinkled with player spikes when new content is added.
If DUST can muster 500k invested players in 10 years, it'll be in a good spot. |
Spademan
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.07.20 09:48:00 -
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Yes, because really, destiny looks like kitten. Yes, because it is now, isn't it? Yes, because they are very, very different. |
R F Gyro
L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.07.20 10:55:00 -
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Pikachu Power wrote:Cast your votes here, please, and tell us why. If you say yes, say why, if you say no, tell us what makes those games better, in your mind. I'm genuinely curious. Yep, it will survive if CCP want it to. And I believe they do, not just for its own sake, but because it is a piece in their "New Eden" franchise. It doesn't even have to make a profit really.
It will survive because CCP don't need it to survive as a profitable stand-alone FPS.
It will survive because they managed to get us to care. They have succeeded in this so well that many of us stick around even though we don't find the game that much fun.
It will survive because it has a depth that none of its competitors have, and eventually CCP will get the gameplay and casual content sorted, and then that depth will shine through.
It will survive because the whole "PS4 will kill it" meme is a non-issue. I believe CCP have a PS4 version in development right now, but they can't acknowledge it because of the terms of their deal with Sony, which I believe says it will be a PS3 exclusive for 1 year from launch; this is why I think they "launched" it before they were ready.
I believe they have a significant marketing budget which they had planned to use for the PS3 launch, but are now holding back for the PS4 launch, which I'd expect to be in May 2014 (5/14).
In summary, it will survive because it isn't just another FPS. |
Panther Alpha
DarkWingsss
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Posted - 2013.07.20 11:00:00 -
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Actually.. is going to be interesting to see if it survive FF14. Most people plays this game because is a MMO, and the other MMO in the PS3 is very rubbish ( DC online ).. But with Final Fantasy 14 being the first "PROPER" MMO for the PS3...I don't know..lets see what happens. |
Nack Jicholson
DUST University Ivy League
26
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Posted - 2013.07.20 11:08:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:I'm still curious as to this mindset of only being able to play one game at a time. Don't any of you alternate?
I mean, right now I'm actively playing MechWarrior Living Legends, Hawken, Warframe, Sins of a Solar Empire, EVE, Ace Combat X and 5, WH40K Space Marine, and a bit of Halo: Reach on the side.
Am I just the only crazy one?
TOO MANY GAMES!
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Duck Drahko
DUST University Ivy League
39
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Posted - 2013.07.20 11:10:00 -
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When I recently got my PS3 to replace the 360, Dust was the last thing I expected to get addicted to. After all it comes with PS+ and many great games for free (including BF3), and everything I heard about Dust until that point had been really bad.
But here I am. Dust just captures my imagination in a way that no other (console) game does. I've been trying to get a bit more into BF3, but the game just feels empty to me. I don't expect BF4 to be any different.
Likewise, PS2 looks like a fun game, but ultimately it also looks like BF in space. I'll wait and see on that one.
As for Destiny, I am looking forward to playing it, but it seems to be much more PVE focused and thus not a replacement for Dust.
A nice thing about Dust is that you can always take a break, and when you come back the game won't just have evolved, you'll also get a bunch of SP to spend for free. Frankly, I see no reason not to stick around, even if another game should temporarily take over most of my time.
Dust is going to survive, for as long as CCP is able to fund the development. It is not the type of game that has to be profitable on release, and it's silly for us to speculate how long CCP can continue the development before it has to break even, because they are the only ones who know that. If the game doesn't show any growth whatsoever within the next two years or so, maybe then it's time to worry a little. But as it stands, the game has officially debuted only a few months ago, which seems to be easy to forget for those who have been here since early beta. |
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