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Pikachu Power XERCORE E X T E R M I N A T U S 52	Posted - 2013.07.20 06:16:00 - [1] - Quote Cast your votes here, please, and tell us why. If you say yes, say why, if you say no, tell us what makes those games better, in your mind. I'm genuinely curious.
Rusty Shallows Black Jackals 156	Posted - 2013.07.20 06:18:00 - [2] - Quote Yes, Dust will be around for as long as CCP is willing keep it going. How popular it will be is in much debate. Aside I plan on playing allot of Destiny. Dust is going to be behind the eight ball with PvE when that game comes out.
Pikachu Power XERCORE E X T E R M I N A T U S 52	Posted - 2013.07.20 06:19:00 - [3] - Quote Rusty Shallows wrote: Yes, Dust will be around for as long as CCP is willing keep it going. How popular it will be is in much debate. Aside I plan on playing allot of Destiny. Dust is going to be behind the eight ball with PvE when that game comes out. Valid and not trolly. Thank you
WyrmHero1945 SyNergy Gaming EoN. 475	Posted - 2013.07.20 06:19:00 - [4] - Quote It'll survive because it's made by CCP. <3
ZDub 303 TeamPlayers EoN. 1061	Posted - 2013.07.20 06:25:00 - [5] - Quote I guess it all comes down to whether or not CCP is currently in the black on this game, and if it goes/stays in the red, how long will they continue to support it. It would be a little naive to think FF14, BF4, PS2, and Destiny (and hell the Playstation 4 in general) wont each cause a drop in player base with this game.
Mobius Wyvern BetaMax. CRONOS. 2598	Posted - 2013.07.20 06:25:00 - [6] - Quote I'm still curious as to this mindset of only being able to play one game at a time. Don't any of you alternate? I mean, right now I'm actively playing MechWarrior Living Legends, Hawken, Warframe, Sins of a Solar Empire, EVE, Ace Combat X and 5, WH40K Space Marine, and a bit of Halo: Reach on the side. Am I just the only crazy one?
Michael Arck sephiroth clones D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 333	Posted - 2013.07.20 06:28:00 - [7] - Quote LOL! God forbid I'm playing two FPS games! Oh heavens no! How can I possibly play BF4 and also play Dust? The audacity!!
Makyre Vahliha GamersForChrist Orion Empire 282	Posted - 2013.07.20 06:32:00 - [8] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: I'm still curious as to this mindset of only being able to play one game at a time. Don't any of you alternate? I mean, right now I'm actively playing MechWarrior Living Legends, Hawken, Warframe, Sins of a Solar Empire, EVE, Ace Combat X and 5, WH40K Space Marine, and a bit of Halo: Reach on the side. Am I just the only crazy one? It would seem the market would be over-saturated with all of those AAA games coming out. It is just becoming even more competitive now. Personally, I don't think most of them will succeed. But if they do, it'll be divided with groups of smaller audiences per game. Probably the only way for Dust to stay on top is to deliver the CARBON-Engined version of Dust 514 on the PS4, coupled with the updates from the PS3 version so far since it's still free to play. Personally, I'm a little mad that MTAC hasn't come out on Dust 514. TitanFall is hoarding all the attention and it's only on XBox One and PC. Not a Xbox fan.
Gigatron Prime The.Primes 272	Posted - 2013.07.20 06:34:00 - [9] - Quote I'm just playing this until Destiny comes out. Once that happens I'll be purely AFK farming.
Mobius Wyvern BetaMax. CRONOS. 2598	Posted - 2013.07.20 06:35:00 - [10] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: LOL! God forbid I'm playing two FPS games! Oh heavens no! How can I possibly play BF4 and also play Dust? The audacity!! Yeah, it's like that's how everyone seriously thinks, and I just don't get it.

THEAMAZING POTHEAD Not Guilty EoN. 26	Posted - 2013.07.20 06:43:00 - [11] - Quote Gigatron Prime wrote: I'm just playing this until Destiny comes out. Once that happens I'll be purely AFK farming. This- except might be other way around, afking til destiny comes out. I think if CCP can appease its players atm, get groundbreaking features in quick(like player markets & much more EVE connection & increase size of matches, get better maps & modes) and if it updates to the carbon engine for the ps4 in like a year, (work on the carbon update while its live on ps3 still, the do a massive console switch) Then i believe this game would be the titan people wanted it to be. But do i think this will happen? No....no...no.......ccp dissapoints me :l
Drud Green Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 123	Posted - 2013.07.20 06:44:00 - [12] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: Michael Arck wrote: LOL! God forbid I'm playing two FPS games! Oh heavens no! How can I possibly play BF4 and also play Dust? The audacity!! Yeah, it's like that's how everyone seriously thinks, and I just don't get it. You are right, you don't get it. It's not about 'only playing 1 fps game', it's about 'why waste your time on dust when you could play theese games'
LuckyLuke Wargan HavoK Core RISE of LEGION 203	Posted - 2013.07.20 06:46:00 - [13] - Quote NO, absolutely not. It will not survives thru the release of next gen consoles in its current state. If it wasen't for my awesome corp I would have already left.
Shrapnels The Order 1886 211	Posted - 2013.07.20 06:48:00 - [14] - Quote No, Crusty514 is NOT even surviving now
Rusty Shallows Black Jackals 156	Posted - 2013.07.20 06:49:00 - [15] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: LOL! God forbid I'm playing two FPS games! Oh heavens no! How can I possibly play BF4 and also play Dust? The audacity!! Borderlands 2 and Dead Island Riptide (if that second one counts) in addition to Dust 514. Although it's been harder to get buddies I know to squad up with so game time has been dropping. That and this heat wave. Dust will always have a returning effect with passive SP and new content.
Pikachu Power XERCORE E X T E R M I N A T U S 55	Posted - 2013.07.20 06:49:00 - [16] - Quote Drud Green wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: Michael Arck wrote: LOL! God forbid I'm playing two FPS games! Oh heavens no! How can I possibly play BF4 and also play Dust? The audacity!! Yeah, it's like that's how everyone seriously thinks, and I just don't get it. You are right, you don't get it. It's not about 'only playing 1 fps game', it's about 'why waste your time on dust when you could play these games' hahahaha. +1
HYENAKILLER X Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 64	Posted - 2013.07.20 07:14:00 - [17] - Quote Pikachu Power wrote: Cast your votes here, please, and tell us why. If you say yes, say why, if you say no, tell us what makes those games better, in your mind. I'm genuinely curious. First off e3 was garbage this year. Outside of titan fall (xbox1) and killzone: shadow fall all games were crap. Ask me why fully armored soldiers.......are wearing cloaks? Destiny will flop. The clutch thing for dust (and maybe trouble for us) is that dust will get a total graphical overhual and still be free to play. With no "real" titles outside of cod, bf and kz dust could easily emerge as the new game. 400 for console, 35 for web monthly, 80$ year for new psn. Dust has already made its money. Next gen should be great for this game. What they need to do is run eve off of ps4.
kiro of justice Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 10	Posted - 2013.07.20 07:16:00 - [18] - Quote PS4 = RIP DUST. I won't be coming back when the PS4 hits.
Allah's Snackbar Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 418	Posted - 2013.07.20 07:31:00 - [19] - Quote Pikachu Power wrote: Cast your votes here, please, and tell us why. If you say yes, say why, if you say no, tell us what makes those games better, in your mind. I'm genuinely curious. Wrong question. CCP will obstinately make it go on profitable or not for at least another 18 months. Near infinite funds but with a terrible strategy and a lazy developer attitude will tell whether it is a rusted 3,000 at peak or more if they can lose the hubris. I don't think so though, it's not in CCPs nature. Once the PS4 is out and other titles you will see what the core player base for Dust is and it will bob around there, but it will be looooow. The only thing that may change this is a port to PS4, but I wouldn't hold my breath. There's a few claims been made by CCP "C" suite execs who won't want them quoted back at them in a disparaging way - a second time. I.e. millions of players.
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION 2716	Posted - 2013.07.20 07:36:00 - [20] - Quote HYENAKILLER X wrote: Pikachu Power wrote: Cast your votes here, please, and tell us why. If you say yes, say why, if you say no, tell us what makes those games better, in your mind. I'm genuinely curious. First off e3 was garbage this year. Outside of titan fall (xbox1) and killzone: shadow fall all games were crap. Ask me why fully armored soldiers.......are wearing cloaks? Destiny will flop. The clutch thing for dust (and maybe trouble for us) is that dust will get a total graphical overhual and still be free to play. With no "real" titles outside of cod, bf and kz dust could easily emerge as the new game. 400 for console, 35 for web monthly, 80$ year for new psn and 60+ $ a game? Dust has already made its money. Next gen should be great for this game. What they need to do is run eve off of ps4. Style maybe? Sometimes it's just about looking cool.

tribal wyvern ZionTCD 958	Posted - 2013.07.20 07:41:00 - [21] - Quote Pikachu Power wrote: Cast your votes here, please, and tell us why. If you say yes, say why, if you say no, tell us what makes those games better, in your mind. I'm genuinely curious. Dust will be around as long as new Eden is around, and we all know new Eden is 10 years old and getting stronger. It will be around as long as ccp is around. I will be playing destiny, ps2 and bf4 on ps4 because they are great titles, and so is dust. Granted dust is nowhere near its goal right now, but when the inevitble happens and bf4 etc starts to get old......the true potential of dust will be fulfilled. I'm keeping my ps3 for dust only, and it will always be hooked up to hdmi 1. Long live dust 514.
Asirius Medaius Planetary Response Organization 38	Posted - 2013.07.20 08:35:00 - [22] - Quote ZDub 303 wrote: I guess it all comes down to whether or not CCP is currently in the black on this game, and if it goes/stays in the red, how long will they continue to support it. It would be a little naive to think FF14, BF4, PS2, and Destiny (and hell the Playstation 4 in general) wont each cause a drop in player base with this game. The advantage is this though; You can play both at the same time. For those planning on getting the PS4, you can AFK in the MCC in Dust 514, until it gets much better, or until it gets released on the PS4 (which wont allow you to play PS4 games and Dust 514 simultaneously). The only disadvantage about this is the fact that you may have a bit hindered internet connection on your PS4, and you may have a tad higher energy bill, but not anything ridiculously noticable.
Asirius Medaius Planetary Response Organization 38	Posted - 2013.07.20 08:37:00 - [23] - Quote Shrapnels wrote: No, Crusty514 is NOT even surviving now +1 cause you made me laugh alot with that title for Dust (and it's pretty late at night).
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 752	Posted - 2013.07.20 08:41:00 - [24] - Quote Pikachu Power wrote: Cast your votes here, please, and tell us why. If you say yes, say why, if you say no, tell us what makes those games better, in your mind. I'm genuinely curious. dust has already kicked Planetside 2 in the balls...... dunno about the other two.
J-Lewis Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 229	Posted - 2013.07.20 08:49:00 - [25] - Quote Yeah, it'll last... but likely with a skeleton crew of loyal players sprinkled with player spikes when new content is added. If DUST can muster 500k invested players in 10 years, it'll be in a good spot.
Spademan The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 187	Posted - 2013.07.20 09:48:00 - [26] - Quote Yes, because really, destiny looks like kitten. Yes, because it is now, isn't it? Yes, because they are very, very different.
R F Gyro L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION 433	Posted - 2013.07.20 10:55:00 - [27] - Quote Pikachu Power wrote: Cast your votes here, please, and tell us why. If you say yes, say why, if you say no, tell us what makes those games better, in your mind. I'm genuinely curious. Yep, it will survive if CCP want it to. And I believe they do, not just for its own sake, but because it is a piece in their "New Eden" franchise. It doesn't even have to make a profit really. It will survive because CCP don't need it to survive as a profitable stand-alone FPS. It will survive because they managed to get us to care. They have succeeded in this so well that many of us stick around even though we don't find the game that much fun. It will survive because it has a depth that none of its competitors have, and eventually CCP will get the gameplay and casual content sorted, and then that depth will shine through. It will survive because the whole "PS4 will kill it" meme is a non-issue. I believe CCP have a PS4 version in development right now, but they can't acknowledge it because of the terms of their deal with Sony, which I believe says it will be a PS3 exclusive for 1 year from launch; this is why I think they "launched" it before they were ready. I believe they have a significant marketing budget which they had planned to use for the PS3 launch, but are now holding back for the PS4 launch, which I'd expect to be in May 2014 (5/14). In summary, it will survive because it isn't just another FPS.
Panther Alpha DarkWingsss 638	Posted - 2013.07.20 11:00:00 - [28] - Quote Actually.. is going to be interesting to see if it survive FF14. Most people plays this game because is a MMO, and the other MMO in the PS3 is very rubbish ( DC online ).. But with Final Fantasy 14 being the first "PROPER" MMO for the PS3...I don't know..lets see what happens.
Nack Jicholson DUST University Ivy League 26	Posted - 2013.07.20 11:08:00 - [29] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: I'm still curious as to this mindset of only being able to play one game at a time. Don't any of you alternate? I mean, right now I'm actively playing MechWarrior Living Legends, Hawken, Warframe, Sins of a Solar Empire, EVE, Ace Combat X and 5, WH40K Space Marine, and a bit of Halo: Reach on the side. Am I just the only crazy one? TOO MANY GAMES!
Duck Drahko DUST University Ivy League 39	Posted - 2013.07.20 11:10:00 - [30] - Quote When I recently got my PS3 to replace the 360, Dust was the last thing I expected to get addicted to. After all it comes with PS+ and many great games for free (including BF3), and everything I heard about Dust until that point had been really bad. But here I am. Dust just captures my imagination in a way that no other (console) game does. I've been trying to get a bit more into BF3, but the game just feels empty to me. I don't expect BF4 to be any different. Likewise, PS2 looks like a fun game, but ultimately it also looks like BF in space. I'll wait and see on that one. As for Destiny, I am looking forward to playing it, but it seems to be much more PVE focused and thus not a replacement for Dust. A nice thing about Dust is that you can always take a break, and when you come back the game won't just have evolved, you'll also get a bunch of SP to spend for free. Frankly, I see no reason not to stick around, even if another game should temporarily take over most of my time. Dust is going to survive, for as long as CCP is able to fund the development. It is not the type of game that has to be profitable on release, and it's silly for us to speculate how long CCP can continue the development before it has to break even, because they are the only ones who know that. If the game doesn't show any growth whatsoever within the next two years or so, maybe then it's time to worry a little. But as it stands, the game has officially debuted only a few months ago, which seems to be easy to forget for those who have been here since early beta.

EnglishSnake Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 1442	Posted - 2013.07.20 11:30:00 - [31] - Quote Destiny offers nothing tbh except capes and graphics PS2 is the MAG, offers large scale battles and alots of customizations with classes and weapons and vehicles but the only problem is you are with and against randoms, there is no end game or anyway to truly win BF4 aka BF3.5 from the looks of it, 32v32 is good but main problem will be if the maps are again far too big for the playercount like it was in BF3, caspain border and all 12ppl are in vehicles and no one on the ground and they have added more vehicles and also kill streak of sorts that the squad can use like using a tomhawk because a tank is ******* up you up, also vehicles got heavily nerfed in BF3 to paper since 1 RPG shot can disable your vehicle even if you are using reactive armor and helis are awful to fly so expect it yet again in BF4 where its AR/LMG4
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION 2717	Posted - 2013.07.20 12:08:00 - [32] - Quote Panther Alpha wrote: Actually.. is going to be interesting to see if it survive FF14. Most people plays this game because is a MMO, and the other MMO in the PS3 is very rubbish ( DC online ).. But with Final Fantasy 14 being the first "PROPER" MMO for the PS3...I don't know..lets see what happens. Having played FF ARR, I have to say that it is very good. It's got a good controls layout, that said I've seen quite a few complaints on their forums about the combat system lacking depth.
steadyhand amarr Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 962	Posted - 2013.07.20 12:13:00 - [33] - Quote Uuuuhh like most normall people I shall play all. Of them based on my mood. Epic story destiny. Crasy large scale warfare planetside 2. and Dust514 when I want to think about what I'm doing :-)
ADAM-OF-EVE Svartur Bjorn 124	Posted - 2013.07.20 13:40:00 - [34] - Quote it will be around for a long time. ccp said at fanfest (i believe i wasnt too drunk to get this wrong) that subs from eve could easyly keep both games going. depending on how you look at it dust is an extention/addon to eve so as long as eve keeps going and ccp is making a profit then im sure dust will remain also comparing all those new games to dust is wrong. they are all vastly different games. i will be playing all of them for sure but not for the same reasons i play dust.
da GAND 187. League of Infamy 95	Posted - 2013.07.20 13:45:00 - [35] - Quote I don't know, destiny looks alright and many have said that it looks like borderlands. BF4 will be temporary since it won't be updating , so that might last a couple of months. What I am worried about is Black light Retribution, and the Division.
DoomLead Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 126	Posted - 2013.07.20 15:25:00 - [36] - Quote the jury is out CCP has scheduled patches in August, September, October, and November. They have 4 patches to release 1. all racial drop suits 2.all racial weapons 3. PVE 4. Address all core gameplay Issues: hit detection, LAG, matchmaking, a proper tutorial (notice I didn't say anything about weapon balancing) These are the things that will bring back the player base as well as help retain the shrinking player base
Mobius Wyvern BetaMax. CRONOS. 2611	Posted - 2013.07.20 16:21:00 - [37] - Quote Gigatron Prime wrote: I'm just playing this until Destiny comes out. Once that happens I'll be purely AFK farming. And if AFK farming is no longer possible at that point?
Zero Harpuia WarRavens League of Infamy 622	Posted - 2013.07.20 18:58:00 - [38] - Quote Lets look at the track record, shall we? Bungie's thingy has gotten alot of hate for their bullshit marketing such as 'preorder our preorder, we're Bungie so we are good for it', trailers full of nothing but environments (HOW long did it take to learn it was a shooter?). PS2 is a massive failure or a massive success, depending on how you look at it. Hackers run rampant across the game, glitching into the safezone HQs, aimbotting crossmap, and killing the game at its playerbase, but the game still has huge worlds and (theoretically) balanced yet non-identical sides. Either way it's been through some **** and I doubt it'll be attached to the current PC servers thanks in part to the hackers. BF4. Two words. Electronic Arts. Many people won't buy it because of that alone, many more will be put off by whatever it is that EA does to earn it's title as the Worst Company in America, and chances are they won't add anything too major to the game over BF3 beyond the standard 'bigger, more, better, shinier', so if people didn't like BF3, they won't like BF4. DUST has had major issues and major successes, and is made by one of the most resilient companies outside of Nintendo in the 'Won't Pack This Sh*t In' department, operating a successful MMO for years. They will constantly get support from EVE players, yet meet resistance from those asame players when merging does happen. They will attract players who wish to be part of this grand world, but scare off those who think they need to play EVE to play DUST. The constant updates will keep the game fresh, but they will also cause certain players to leave if their style gets nerfed or if they dislike the constantly changing dynamics. All in all, all of these games have their own niche, and their own playerbase. Destiny will get all of the Halo guys cuz Bungie, it could be a piece of dried cardboard in disk shape and it'll sell enough by Bungie being on the label to make a huge profit before anyone finds out. PS2 will have to seperate the servers, but the constant, non-instanced world will entice FAR different players than those who play instanced FPS like CoD, DUST, BF, or MAG. BF4 will get all the BF3 guys. If you didn't like it before you won't like it now. DUST will get EVE players and those interested in the concept, in the SciFi aspects, and the MAG players, as well as a constant trickle of 'Oh lookit this free thing' players.
Raymondo316 KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 15	Posted - 2013.07.21 18:05:00 - [39] - Quote Zero Harpuia wrote: DUST will get EVE players and those interested in the concept, in the SciFi aspects, and the MAG players, as well as a constant trickle of 'Oh lookit this free thing' players. If anything im expecting alot of MAG players/outfits to go Planetside 2 Closest thing we will ever get to a MAG 2
AlleyKatPr0 Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 33	Posted - 2013.07.22 12:25:00 - [40] - Quote Zero Harpuia wrote: DUST will get EVE players and those interested in the concept, in the SciFi aspects, and the MAG players, as well as a constant trickle of 'Oh lookit this free thing' players. Dust made me quit EVE, amongst a truck load of other stuff. Whatever DUST attracts in numbers typically leave when they realise that an online FPS MMO hybrid by a non-AAA studio attempting to be a AAA studio that connot compete with a AAA studio is a bad idea, poorly conceived. DUST is bad, okay - and with enough marketing money and just raw development $ you can make a AAA game with a AAA marketing budget. CCP does not have either, Bungie has got access to the Activision $ and is releasing on FOUR platforms. BF4 on FIVE. DUST is the gaming equivalent of the fat girl at the end of the night when you don't care due to intoxication. She's eager to please and is happy with ANY attention she can get. She wears all the right clothes, has got the latest perfume and jewelry - but somehow you know, you just know, that she doesn't want you for one night, she wants to tie you down and try and get you to submit to her for the rest of your life. You also know she isn't taking any protection, regardless of what she says. Destiny and BF4 are the gaming equivalent of a high-class prostitute. It's gonna cost a lot, but OMF...G is it gonna be pretty and seduce you with the sort of refined experience reserved for gods. Now, you can argue the case for both - but the one who plumps for the fat girl is never going to be truly happy, but the one who goes for the high-class call girl is gonna be extremely satisfied and wake up with a beaming smile and a great story to tell. Waking up next to a fat girl hunched over a pregnancy test with crossed fingers is not how I would ever wish to wake up.

Duck Drahko DUST University Ivy League 50	Posted - 2013.07.22 13:12:00 - [41] - Quote AlleyKatPr0 wrote: Zero Harpuia wrote: DUST will get EVE players and those interested in the concept, in the SciFi aspects, and the MAG players, as well as a constant trickle of 'Oh lookit this free thing' players. Dust made me quit EVE, amongst a truck load of other stuff. Whatever DUST attracts in numbers typically leave when they realise that an online FPS MMO hybrid by a non-AAA studio attempting to be a AAA studio that connot compete with a AAA studio is a bad idea, poorly conceived. DUST is bad, okay - and with enough marketing money and just raw development $ you can make a AAA game with a AAA marketing budget. CCP does not have either, Bungie has got access to the Activision $ and is releasing on FOUR platforms. BF4 on FIVE. DUST is the gaming equivalent of the fat girl at the end of the night when you don't care due to intoxication. She's eager to please and is happy with ANY attention she can get. She wears all the right clothes, has got the latest perfume and jewelry - but somehow you know, you just know, that she doesn't want you for one night, she wants to tie you down and try and get you to submit to her for the rest of your life. You also know she isn't taking any protection, regardless of what she says. Destiny and BF4 are the gaming equivalent of a high-class prostitute. It's gonna cost a lot, but OMF...G is it gonna be pretty and seduce you with the sort of refined experience reserved for gods. Now, you can argue the case for both - but the one who plumps for the fat girl is never going to be truly happy, but the one who goes for the high-class call girl is gonna be extremely satisfied and wake up with a beaming smile and a great story to tell. Waking up next to a fat girl hunched over a pregnancy test with crossed fingers is not how I would ever wish to wake up. Words defy me... And I hope for all your future partners, that this is not how you seriously think about women. But ultimately your analogy may be pretty apt in one way. There is a reason why AAA games generally feel to me like they are lacking something... let's call it a soul. None of the gaming memories I really cherish have been created by a AAA studio (at least not by today's standard definition of the term). Ultimately it comes down to short term satisfaction versus meaningful relationships.
AlleyKatPr0 Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 33	Posted - 2013.07.22 19:45:00 - [42] - Quote Duck Drahko wrote: Words defy me... And I hope for all your future partners, that this is not how you seriously think about women. But ultimately your analogy may be pretty apt in one way. There is a reason why AAA games generally feel to me like they are lacking something... let's call it a soul. None of the gaming memories I really cherish have been created by a AAA studio (at least not by today's standard definition of the term). Ultimately it comes down to short term satisfaction versus meaningful relationships. Of course not, but analogically the objectification of women is very close to the entertainment industry. This, is a pastime, one which serves a short-term purpose under certain circumstances - and the entertainment industry know exactly how to market to us when those circumstances poke their head out. I could list many games created by AAA studios where gaming memories are imprinted into my brain - much like awesome moments of meeting that special lady who you can't remember the name of, but remember every curve of her body. Mowing down bad guys doing drive-bys in Vice City whilst 'I just died in your arms tonight' played over the radio...rocket jumping onto the cart in TF2 seconds before the end of the round and winning the match...getting 200 lines in Tetris on the gameboy with someone banging on the bathroom door...C4'ing a rouge heli pilot after he destroyed by jet in BF3, in mid-air...performing a reverse grab in TTT2 to get 'perfect' takedown... Need I continue?
HexSoul VI SVER True Blood 3	Posted - 2013.07.23 22:22:00 - [43] - Quote the online activity might greatly drop because of new fps but if dust is released on ps4 new psn members might download and play and the activity will drop by a little in grow by a little or a lot
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines 81	Posted - 2013.07.24 02:04:00 - [44] - Quote All the above mentioned games will just be fotm polished graphic games with limited re play or expensive expansions, dust will keep evolving better and better with no need to buy expansions, pretty simple lol
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines 81	Posted - 2013.07.24 02:07:00 - [45] - Quote Would also like to say that in a fanfest video about 4 or 5 months ago a gamer asked if dust was being ported to ps4 and the devs replied that in the future but it's not something they're working on right now, cant remember which video it was but if your patient you can check yourself.
AlleyKatPr0 Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 33	Posted - 2013.07.24 11:26:00 - [46] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: All the above mentioned games will just be fotm polished graphic games with limited re play or expensive expansions, dust will keep evolving better and better with no need to buy expansions, pretty simple lol It's an interesting point and one that is hard to argue because in both cases you do not know if you are right. However... Bungie was founded in 1991, and have got decades of experience in creating games which have been very successful - I think they are worth giving the benefit of the doubt. Destiny is unlikely to be a poor game, because (considering the expenditure) if they released a poor game it could end the company. This point becomes more relevant if you scroll down. Planetside is on PC, the platform EVE players wanted it to be released on, and you need to ask why Sony would do this. Simply speaking, they can afford to release a non-AAA game that is F2P with MT. Scroll down. CCP usta be the underdog, the one that released a space MMO in the days when dial-up was the norm and nerds were unhappy that David Braben kept fuckin' up ELITE sequels, when all nerds wanted was zero-G dogfighting, with trading and pirating a secondary consideration. So CCP took up the mantel and 'lo' they released EVE. In the early days it was new and frankly, exciting, to have an online space game created by a mix of ELITE fans and Ultima Online fans/griefers. It had all of the scale and scope which an online space game should have, with the capitalistic qualities of ELITE and grief tactics of Ultima. It also had the role-play built in, because that's a big market with nerds and CCP fuckin' knew it. CCP will openly admit they designed the original logo to be as close as possible to the logo for Elite without getting sued by an Englishman. ELITE LOGO original EVE logo So, they were the underdog with only a scraping of staff and adoring fans. They were the guardians of online space exploration and adventure games for a generation of nerds throughout cyberspace. Then there were the dark times. Then there was the empire. Here in the basking glory of 2013 we got a company who do not have any experience in AAA FPSMMO games releasing a game onto the market by using the funds of its other game which is substandard at best and utterly terrible at worst, comparatively speaking. I ask you, sir "what is the point?" What is the point in releasing a game which AT THE MOST FUNDAMENTAL LEVEL fails in the most basic function: running, aiming and shooting in a point-to-point attack/defend/cover/counter-attack open/closed environment mechanic? Yes, this is an MMO-esque game. Sorry to say that is a cop-out argument, when the above is (or should be) the thing which a games player will spend the majority of their time doing. Another cop-out is 'they are working hard on the game and improving it'. Great, so PM me when the game is worth playing and every-other-sucker can play it whilst everyone else is playing games which are AAA+ and actually have game mechanics worth a lick. Biggest cop-out "it's free". So...that means I should play it and not complain, or not play it and not complain? Does making it free mean it has some sort of magical shield surrounding it, or that every player is given rose-tinted specs? Look, I got plenty of cash and have worked hard to get it - like most people with a computer, internet access, consoles, smartphones, tablets, car(s), sat nav, digital alarm clock, plasma teevee, designer-coffee addiction, Timberland shoe collection, gym membership, revolving tie-rack, surround sound home cinema and demanding social life - there is one thing one values higher than value for money, and that's value of time. DUST is not worth my time, and I only post here whilst vacating my bowels, or waiting for a taxi. /whistles
THE TRAINSPOTTER ROMANIA Renegades C0VEN 37	Posted - 2013.07.25 09:25:00 - [47] - Quote No , unless they get rid of AURUM stuff. That is their last card.
Sladen Faust XCUTI0N 0	Posted - 2013.07.25 21:17:00 - [48] - Quote I believe that when the PS4 comes out people will be playing all the new games until they find their niche. Some will go but I'm pretty sure the loyal EVE players and some will still play regardless of it is ported or not (which i doubt it wont due to time investment on CCP's behalf). At least we still get the benefit of passive exp if we don't play while we wait.
Meeko Fent Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 372	Posted - 2013.07.25 21:31:00 - [49] - Quote DoomLead wrote: the jury is out CCP has scheduled patches in August, September, October, and November. They have 4 patches to release 1. all racial drop suits 2.all racial weapons 3. PVE 4. Address all core gameplay Issues: hit detection, LAG, matchmaking, a proper tutorial (notice I didn't say anything about weapon balancing) These are the things that will bring back the player base as well as help retain the shrinking player base I will arrange it the order of what should be done. 4,3,1,2. That order will save DUST, quote me on it!


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