Militia and STD variants dont fully reveal a weapons characteristics since there are actual bonuses attached to speccing a weapon to proto. That weapon becomes even more powerful with proficiency but since proficiency is consistent across the board one can replicate proficiency with damage mods. So yea if you want accurate player feedback and player statistics you need people using proto versions to get a better understanding of the balance scale.

You have the pipedream of a comprehensive matchmaking system and i will tell you not going to happen, player counts are too low and it will result in subpopulations waiting for extended periods of time trying to find a match. The money argument is better because you are replacing a option that is perceived as neecessary to compete (boosters) to one that is optional and reserved for variety.

Dust is a F2P, a plexing option wouldnt exist, if you mean being able to purchase characters with a set amount of SP and ISK for real money well then now you open the door to P2W and more to the point how is this really any different from a respec, just that they are not going to have as much SP as a person with say 50M SP wanting to respec?

In the end it doesnt matter when will people realize that if a character has 10M SP thats all it needs to compete, versatility while valuable as a individual is not inherently that much of a force multiplier if you have a proper team that is balanced for the roles needed.

lolwhut?????? LMFAO!!!!!!!

Please tell me you're trolling. Please please please.

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You go on insulting other people while ignoring that we are actually discussing how to improve your gameplay experience aswell.

One thing i noticed in all those respec threads i was involved in is that the pro side more often than not seems wholly disinterested in solving the problems that lead to the respec thread in the first place. They'd rather abandon the thread or throw around funny ad hominem remarks as soon as it becomes obvious that a respec might not be the best solution.

I was about to say this in my last post but then thought it would be inappropriate to do so. Thank you for giving me an excuse.

Militia and STD variants dont fully reveal a weapons characteristics since there are actual bonuses attached to speccing a weapon to proto. That weapon becomes even more powerful with proficiency but since proficiency is consistent across the board one can replicate proficiency with damage mods. So yea if you want accurate player feedback and player statistics you need people using proto versions to get a better understanding of the balance scale.

Militia and STD variants dont fully reveal a weapons characteristics since there are actual In the end it doesnt matter when will people realize that if a character has 10M SP thats all it needs to compete, versatility while valuable as a individual is not inherently that much of a force multiplier if you have a proper team that is balanced for the roles needed.

NO DIS IS WELCOME TO NEW EDEN HAS TO LIVE BY YOUR CONSEQUENCES CAUSE CHOICES MATTER U NEED TO NOT CALL OF DUTY FOTM CCP NEEDS YOU TO BUY BOOSTER FOR 7 MORE YEARS BECAUSE THIS GAME IS SO DEEP AND SO COMPLEX.

We want the content and the balance too malkai. Just think that respecs will keep people interested in the interim. We all know how slow CCP is with development. It's just two steps forward one step back. Add PC but remove corp battles? Buff one gun into obvious OP status (tac ar) and nerf one into uselessness (laser) take months to fix the problem. I knew the tac was OP just on stats before I spent a skill point last respec. Then my buddy squads up with me and declares it amazing minutes later.

5 pages and you guys still can't come up with a good argument against respecs.

TIL someone bought boosters to get where they are. I'm near 4m Sp in and I have done it without one booster. I have 2 separate roles for my toon and I'm loving it. If you are not, then simply man up, start a new toon, and go play more. In any other MMO you can't just respec anytime you want. I was never able to respec in Anarchy online. I couldn't respec when playing Oblivion or Morrowind, I can't choose a different role with DCuniverse. It's the nature of the game. You don't like your role, start fresh with a new toon, or just start building from scratch with this one. Your real problem is that you don't want to go back to being a newblood, you just want to continue stomping everyone, but with a different shoe. Deal with your class, or get a new one and stop crying.

Wow!

And how many of those were first person shooters that had half of it's core content missing? Buddy, this game is First Person Shooter first and foremost. But the ****** thing is, this game has no where near as much content as those other MMOs.

The only thing this game has to offer is shooting and grinding pubs to level up. And believe it or not, not everyone gets hard on over the fact that it takes years to unlock content.

I very much like this proposition. A couple things:

I agree that this would greatly help coping with faulty balance passes through switching of the suit/role. As it stands though, since most roles are only (and probably will for a long time) represented with only one type of item from each race, switching gear with the least change in play style means cross training in most cases.

This could/should be alleviated though by releasing two or more variations of all basic roles per race. One could argue that the amarr LR and SCR already fit into this as they are both direct hit assault type light weapons. This way players can change their gear without necceserily changing their playstyle along with it.

Concerning blanket bonuses your perspective is quite interesting and agreeable. And while i completely agree that every single skill should have a bonus associated with it i would reply that those bonuses could easily add up towards a significant advantage against a lower SP char, all else equal. Sharp shooter was the worst offender but extra dmg, ammo, fitting, and range at the same time could allow a vet to outperform a new player with the same or even better suit by virtue of his SP alone. This is ok for a full out RPG but could be an issue in an FPS/RPG hybrid

The current tree avoids this situation as all passive bonuses (except for tank and fitting core skills) are by design highly specific and thus quite limited in significance even when added on top of each other. I would prefer to conserve this behavior with two general rules:

Skill bonuses become more significant the further up the tree and expensive they are, starting from miniscule fitting bonuses to dmg etc. at the very end.

Skill bonuses become more specific the further up the tree and expensive they are. Slight fitting bonuses can apply to all weapons of one race but things like damage bonuses should only apply to a specific weapon.

This allows players to achieve acceptable performance of a wide variety of gear with rather low investment and allows SP intensive specialization for excelling performance of a specific type of gear.

Edit: added underlined section