First off, I would like to say: http://youtu.be/ussCHoQttyQ

Second: let's see the description


So, more or less, LAVs are meant to support infantry and vehicles; I can't find it online, but the scout LAV description also says they're meant for hit-and-run attacks.

While I'm almost positive the turret is supposed to do the majority of the fighting, you could say that LAVs are doing their job- supporting infantry by running people over, and supporting vehicles by running AVers over. The turret just makes it more efficient at that.

As far as LLAVs, they can't do their intended job anyway because their built-in rep is garbage.

People should not be running around in the open on a battle field.

The fact that they do is the result of high health short AR ranges and dancing bunny hop mechanics.

In other words normally bullets would keep them from running around in the open...LAVs do tend to stop this.

No, the reason why they do it is AV dominance. I remember when infantry wouldn't run around in the open because HAVs would tear them apart if they did.

[quote=Scheneighnay McBob]IT SAYS ANTI INFANTRY ON IT...ARE YOU PEOPLE FREAKING BLIND? RUNNING PEOPLE OVER IS PART OF ANTI INFANTRY.......you people are amazing you know that? why is it that stupid assault rifle can destroy but nothing else can?....leave the lav the way it is.....so people can keep smashing those stupid infantry only assault rifle punks.....

And the gun on top is just there as an ornate piece of abstract art.
CCP was totally thinking "you know what? The gun is there, but let's have the front bumper be literally 10,000 times more effective."

LAV work great, minus the DPS. Throttle, Steering, Mod fits, all great. It's the DPS.

The amount of DMG done with no penalty. Plus they can out run most AV. Murder Taxi tactic is about
As lame as Core Flaylock as a primary weapon.

Best fix it a penalty to steering acceleration and over all speed after running over someone. It's only fair.

VonSpliff, Merc

its just common sense

ofc a moving VEHICLE can do you harm DUHH

and killing someone with LAV turret is a pain in the ass

LAV work great, minus the DPS. Throttle, Steering, Mod fits, all great. It's the DPS.

The amount of DMG done with no penalty. Plus they can out run most AV. Murder Taxi tactic is about
As lame as Core Flaylock as a primary weapon.

Best fix it a penalty to steering acceleration and over all speed after running over someone. It's only fair.

VonSpliff, Merc

How so? Either way, it's drive in, kill someone, drive out before AV can react.

And the gun on top is just there as an ornate piece of abstract art.
CCP was totally thinking "you know what? The gun is there, but let's have the front bumper be literally 10,000 times more effective."

Then wouldn't the fix be "buff the turret, take away impact damage?" Even make it harder to hit the guy on the turret too?

I feel like a lot of you are trying to "make sense" of a video game about multiple races of immortal clones fighting across the galaxy. It's a video game. None of anything going on in it makes a whole lot of sense "realistically". But for some reason, you guys are drawing the line here.

Imagine how bad ass it would be to have the Logi LAV working as intended (giving health support to infantry and tanks). It makes sense for it to have that much health so it can be in the fight without worrying about being immediately blown up. Instead, since you can use it as a super fast, high health battering ram, of course people go that route. It's crazy lame.

yeah lets just ignore everything by using the clones excuse

yeah lets just ignore everything by using the clones excuse

I'm using the video game excuse.
Street Fighter isn't a fighting sim, its a game, they make concessions to realism so it's balanced.
Battlefield isn't a war simulator, they make concessions so it's balanced.
Company of Heroes isn't a tactics sim, they made concessions so it's balanced.

Shall I go on?
It's a game. Games are supposed to be fun. Fun comes, in large part, from balance. One hit kill drive bys courtesy of a, near invincible to all infantry, speeding brick is not balanced and its not fun.

You are supposed to fear the turret not the bumper

If you remove LLAVs and buff the scout ones somehow, I would say yes. Some people may just want to be the best driver in new esen, drifting over the bodies of their enemies.

I never understood why logi vehicles were so hard to kill, but the infantry can be killed like wet paper. LLAVs need to be less difficult to kill. It should take only one, MAYBE 2 AV grenades of equivalent meta level to pop an LLAV. It would force real drivers to think about their maneuvers instead of just bull rushing a fire fight.

i dont like tank either , lets do something about them too , its a video game afterall and we do wear full high-tec body armor afterall

i dont like tank either , lets do something about them too , its a video game afterall and we do wear full high-tec body armor afterall

The tanks weapons are built to destroy full high-tec body armor. I don't think the bumper of LAVs are.

Well right now, the turret isn't scary at all because it takes to long to kill, and the physics for firing from a moving vehicle are broken.

That's a different discussion, start a new topic. Headline it with something like "I'm a cry baby who can't hold a conversation and wants to change the subject" or something then list any reasons you can come up with in there that you have against the tank.

The LAV situation, on the other hand, is a real problem and is breaking the game away from some of the really cool mechanics it could have. If you could take a step back away from "what makes sense in a video game" and talk more about "what makes a game fun" you might see the topic with clearer eyes.

LAV is not made from PAPER , it has weight add some speed to that , i mean come on
its simple as 1+1=2

ur last defense is trolling?
how sad

And the gun on top is just there as an ornate piece of abstract art.
CCP was totally thinking "you know what? The gun is there, but let's have the front bumper be literally 10,000 times more effective."

Well right now, the turret isn't scary at all because it takes to long to kill, and the physics for firing from a moving vehicle are broken.

ur last defense is trolling?
how sad

idk.. i have some good gunners who can get down with neutron scatter + 2 complex dmg mods. but i also drive/park good to get them shots instead of like most ppl who go full throttle the whole time.