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THE TRAINSPOTTER
ROMANIA Renegades C0VEN
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Posted - 2013.07.15 16:37:00 -
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Scout LAV are useless , they have same stats as FREE LAV but they more expensive. |
THE TRAINSPOTTER
ROMANIA Renegades C0VEN
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Posted - 2013.07.15 16:40:00 -
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Skyhound Solbrave wrote:If you remove LLAVs and buff the scout ones somehow, I would say yes. Some people may just want to be the best driver in new esen, drifting over the bodies of their enemies.
I never understood why logi vehicles were so hard to kill, but the infantry can be killed like wet paper. LLAVs need to be less difficult to kill. It should take only one, MAYBE 2 AV grenades of equivalent meta level to pop an LLAV. It would force real drivers to think about their maneuvers instead of just bull rushing a fire fight.
we also need a buff to scout dropsuits and a nerf to heavy dropsuits
we also need tanks to die in 1 or 2 militia swarms , any tank , regardeless of skill or items used
hell , dstroy everything with 1 bullet
can a stationary LAV kill you by ramming you?
ohhh?
what?
statio rammi...
infantry IS wet paper when gets hit by a car and so are you , go play in traffic and test it
equip any dropsuit u like |
THE TRAINSPOTTER
ROMANIA Renegades C0VEN
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Posted - 2013.07.15 20:25:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:THE TRAINSPOTTER wrote:Scout LAV are useless , they have same stats as FREE LAV but they more expensive. You haven't driven one. I have an Abron with a prototype blaster, and it absolutely kicks ass. The description doesn't tell you it, but it has more than increased acceleration. It also has higher turret tracking speed, and MUCH better handling.
i have and there is no speed significance over the standard LAV and what good is the turret turn rate since i dont use it
using the turret while LAV is sitting is sitting duck
only thing is they are blue , how many blue LAV have you seen so far?
me , NONE |
THE TRAINSPOTTER
ROMANIA Renegades C0VEN
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Posted - 2013.07.15 20:29:00 -
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pegasis prime wrote:All I can say is hit and run
Hit And Run.
I do plenty of hitting and plenty of running beep beep killer cabbie behind the wheel. funny , whenever i see u , u in a tank up in the mountains sniping
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THE TRAINSPOTTER
ROMANIA Renegades C0VEN
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Posted - 2013.07.15 20:32:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Short Answer
No
Correct answer should be a vehicle that provides infantry support and transportation. Current the modules that help infantry, sensors, repairs, and killing the hostiles isn't working.
The only thing that works really well on the LAV is the controls and physics (of itself not interacting with the environment) right now. then you are not doing it right
my LAV setup kicks ass , im ONLY LAV player
i run over ppl only when i go from an objective to objective and they are in the way |
THE TRAINSPOTTER
ROMANIA Renegades C0VEN
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Posted - 2013.07.15 21:29:00 -
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Nemo Bluntz wrote:Soldiersaint wrote:[quote=Scheneighnay McBob]IT SAYS ANTI INFANTRY ON IT...ARE YOU PEOPLE FREAKING BLIND? RUNNING PEOPLE OVER IS PART OF ANTI INFANTRY.......you people are amazing you know that? why is it that stupid assault rifle can destroy but nothing else can?....leave the lav the way it is.....so people can keep smashing those stupid infantry only assault rifle punks..... And the gun on top is just there as an ornate piece of abstract art. CCP was totally thinking "you know what? The gun is there, but let's have the front bumper be literally 10,000 times more effective."
its just common sense
ofc a moving VEHICLE can do you harm DUHH
and killing someone with LAV turret is a pain in the ass
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THE TRAINSPOTTER
ROMANIA Renegades C0VEN
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Posted - 2013.07.15 21:31:00 -
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VonSpliff wrote:LAV work great, minus the DPS. Throttle, Steering, Mod fits, all great. It's the DPS.
The amount of DMG done with no penalty. Plus they can out run most AV. Murder Taxi tactic is about As lame as Core Flaylock as a primary weapon.
Best fix it a penalty to steering acceleration and over all speed after running over someone. It's only fair.
VonSpliff, Merc
when i run over full speed an heavy i kill them but my LAV reacts like i hit a wall
rear wheels actually go up in the air and nose down , reminds me of ( face down , ass up its the way i like to fk song) and sometimes the whole LAV jumps of the ground from impact
not all the time but i feel the impact |
THE TRAINSPOTTER
ROMANIA Renegades C0VEN
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Posted - 2013.07.15 21:37:00 -
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Nemo Bluntz wrote:THE TRAINSPOTTER wrote:Nemo Bluntz wrote:Soldiersaint wrote:[quote=Scheneighnay McBob]IT SAYS ANTI INFANTRY ON IT...ARE YOU PEOPLE FREAKING BLIND? RUNNING PEOPLE OVER IS PART OF ANTI INFANTRY.......you people are amazing you know that? why is it that stupid assault rifle can destroy but nothing else can?....leave the lav the way it is.....so people can keep smashing those stupid infantry only assault rifle punks..... And the gun on top is just there as an ornate piece of abstract art. CCP was totally thinking "you know what? The gun is there, but let's have the front bumper be literally 10,000 times more effective." its just common sense ofc a moving VEHICLE can do you harm DUHH and killing someone with LAV turret is a pain in the ass Then wouldn't the fix be "buff the turret, take away impact damage?" Even make it harder to hit the guy on the turret too? I feel like a lot of you are trying to "make sense" of a video game about multiple races of immortal clones fighting across the galaxy. It's a video game. None of anything going on in it makes a whole lot of sense "realistically". But for some reason, you guys are drawing the line here. Imagine how bad ass it would be to have the Logi LAV working as intended (giving health support to infantry and tanks). It makes sense for it to have that much health so it can be in the fight without worrying about being immediately blown up. Instead, since you can use it as a super fast, high health battering ram, of course people go that route. It's crazy lame.
yeah lets just ignore everything by using the clones excuse
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THE TRAINSPOTTER
ROMANIA Renegades C0VEN
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Posted - 2013.07.15 21:44:00 -
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Nemo Bluntz wrote:THE TRAINSPOTTER wrote:yeah lets just ignore everything by using the clones excuse
I'm using the video game excuse. Street Fighter isn't a fighting sim, its a game, they make concessions to realism so it's balanced. Battlefield isn't a war simulator, they make concessions so it's balanced. Company of Heroes isn't a tactics sim, they made concessions so it's balanced. Shall I go on? It's a game. Games are supposed to be fun. Fun comes, in large part, from balance. One hit kill drive bys courtesy of a, near invincible to all infantry, speeding brick is not balanced and its not fun. i dont like tank either , lets do something about them too , its a video game afterall and we do wear full high-tec body armor afterall |
THE TRAINSPOTTER
ROMANIA Renegades C0VEN
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Posted - 2013.07.15 21:49:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:THE TRAINSPOTTER wrote:Nemo Bluntz wrote:THE TRAINSPOTTER wrote:yeah lets just ignore everything by using the clones excuse
I'm using the video game excuse. Street Fighter isn't a fighting sim, its a game, they make concessions to realism so it's balanced. Battlefield isn't a war simulator, they make concessions so it's balanced. Company of Heroes isn't a tactics sim, they made concessions so it's balanced. Shall I go on? It's a game. Games are supposed to be fun. Fun comes, in large part, from balance. One hit kill drive bys courtesy of a, near invincible to all infantry, speeding brick is not balanced and its not fun. i dont like tank either , lets do something about them too , its a video game afterall and we do wear full high-tec body armor afterall The tanks weapons are built to destroy full high-tec body armor. I don't think the bumper of LAVs are.
LAV is not made from PAPER , it has weight add some speed to that , i mean come on its simple as 1+1=2
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THE TRAINSPOTTER
ROMANIA Renegades C0VEN
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Posted - 2013.07.15 21:50:00 -
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Nemo Bluntz wrote:THE TRAINSPOTTER wrote:Nemo Bluntz wrote:THE TRAINSPOTTER wrote:yeah lets just ignore everything by using the clones excuse
I'm using the video game excuse. Street Fighter isn't a fighting sim, its a game, they make concessions to realism so it's balanced. Battlefield isn't a war simulator, they make concessions so it's balanced. Company of Heroes isn't a tactics sim, they made concessions so it's balanced. Shall I go on? It's a game. Games are supposed to be fun. Fun comes, in large part, from balance. One hit kill drive bys courtesy of a, near invincible to all infantry, speeding brick is not balanced and its not fun. i dont like tank either , lets do something about them too , its a video game afterall and we do wear full high-tec body armor afterall That's a different discussion, start a new topic. Headline it with something like " I'm a cry baby who can't hold a conversation and wants to change the subject" or something then list any reasons you can come up with in there that you have against the tank. The LAV situation, on the other hand, is a real problem and is breaking the game away from some of the really cool mechanics it could have. If you could take a step back away from "what makes sense in a video game" and talk more about "what makes a game fun" you might see the topic with clearer eyes. ur last defense is trolling? how sad
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THE TRAINSPOTTER
ROMANIA Renegades C0VEN
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Posted - 2013.07.16 15:05:00 -
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Soldiersaint wrote:Daxxis KANNAH wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Wrong kind of "hit and run". How so? Either way, it's drive in, kill someone, drive out before AV can react. You are supposed to fear the turret not the bumper fear the bumper....FEAR IT you are supposed to fear the bumper if it has speed even if if doesnt have bullet speed to pierce your armor it has mass to wrap your armor around your body tight enough to kill you ever heard of blunt ? every rpg game has piercing , cutting and blunt damage
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THE TRAINSPOTTER
ROMANIA Renegades C0VEN
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Posted - 2013.07.16 15:14:00 -
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Daxxis KANNAH wrote:Oh this is an rpg now ? Its funny watching the rationalization of CCP's trainwreck....or should I say jeepwreck.
what i meant is that there are more types of damage
piercing from bullets
blunt from melee and LAV
cutting from knives
do i really have to explain these basic stuff?
are you baiting or ?
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THE TRAINSPOTTER
ROMANIA Renegades C0VEN
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Posted - 2013.07.16 17:10:00 -
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Daxxis KANNAH wrote:Yes I am baiting.
I really dont understand the Op's thread and intent.
We all know that the LAV isnt working as intended. It is meant for transport and attack (mainly using turret but also hitting people) but CCP went too far making them too durable and easy to handle. They were shortsighted and created this problem and still havent addressed it.
They should kill more from turrets and kill less from ramming (probably having to hit a suit multiple times given suits health) and maybe made a bit less durable.
The whole thread is one big bait.
i would kill from LAV turret but the LAV doesnt drive by itself and i DO kill from LAV turret when i get the chance and there is no one around but im always afraid i get sniped if i switch to turret
i have no complaint about LAV , they are good the way they are
if you get run over its your fault
without LAV or weaker LAV to the point where ppl would stop using them the game would become a campers heaven
if u like camping play CoD
dont say you dont like it when a LAV saves yo ass
LAV are tactic , like it or not |
THE TRAINSPOTTER
ROMANIA Renegades C0VEN
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Posted - 2013.07.16 17:33:00 -
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Poplo Furuya wrote:THE TRAINSPOTTER wrote:Daxxis KANNAH wrote:Yes I am baiting.
I really dont understand the Op's thread and intent.
We all know that the LAV isnt working as intended. It is meant for transport and attack (mainly using turret but also hitting people) but CCP went too far making them too durable and easy to handle. They were shortsighted and created this problem and still havent addressed it.
They should kill more from turrets and kill less from ramming (probably having to hit a suit multiple times given suits health) and maybe made a bit less durable.
The whole thread is one big bait. i would kill from LAV turret but the LAV doesnt drive by itself i have no complaint about LAV , they are good the way they are if you get run over its your fault without LAV or weaker LAV to the point where ppl would stop using them the game would become a campers heaven LAV are tactic , like it or not AFKing is a sound tactic to get stable ISK and SP returns, like it or not. Does this mean that's how it should be? No. About LAVs stopping the game being a "camper's heaven"... the same LAVs that encourage you to stay put in closed areas, keeping away from roads and the open? You what mate? There's other reasons to do as such but to propose that LAVs prevent camping is preposterous. What myself and some others want isn't for the LAV to be cycled out, we want it to be reborn as a fast attack vehicle with a formidable turret or, in the Logi's case, a true support vehicle that serves as a transport to get fighting suits into the fray and bolster them with shield transfers while they're there. LAVs currently do one thing in one way. If we could get them to a point where there's incentive to utilise them in a variety of roles that would be great.
i use LLAV with 3 roles that im not gona divulge , if LLAV would die like the free LAV i couldnt execute those roles and it would cost me a lot
hell i wouldnt even use LAV
LAV's work as intended , its YOUR fault if you cant hear it coming or check the radar or look left/right before crossing the street/open area known for LAV traffic
all you want is go from here to there with no worries and kill everything in sight , like i said CoD ...
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