You know the solution? Think of this. LAVs can no longer cause damage, so running into people will not kill them or damage them. It's the only way. DO IT CCP!

Or we can just remove the free LAV's altogether, forcing you to spend SP if you want to murder taxi.

Or we can just remove the free LAV's altogether, forcing you to spend SP if you want to murder taxi.

No. Murder Taxis shouldn't exist. They're intended for transport or logistics or assault with the turret, you should not be able to run over people. You do realize most murder taxi *bleeps* skilled into LAVs right?

Remove the ability for the LAV to damage/kill.

We're not asking for nerfs. We want, or I want complete removal of damage.

I love how I jumped up on the edge of a concrete walk by a building and the LAV user kept try to hit me still, he could have easily jumped out and killed me but he would not get out. That's ridiculous. Remove the damage, it's the only way.


That doesn't really hurt the game, some can be annoying I guess though. People should be able to do what they want, but this is ridiculous. Either that or CCP gives us the option to go into battles that don't have LAVs.

Yes. Someone with decide to run AV

A decked out LLAV stills costs a pretty penny. I feel a little better getting run over by a 400k isk LLAV. At least if I kill the LAV I hit his pocket.

But this is crap when its starter fits getting into starter LAVs and the moment you blow them up there's an RDV across the map seconds later where that same idiot has called in another free LAV.

We need to get rid of free LAVs... if you want a car to transport you around, buy a militia LAV and pay for it.

Just like militia tanks, and militia dropsuits, militia LAVs should be a joke to organized people in proto gear.

Then we need to get AV nades working properly against LLAVs... the fact that they have ~50% passive resistance to explosive damage is unacceptable.

I'd also like for LAV's to actually show uo on radar further than 10 meters away. We can travel across the universe in seconds, but a suit cant detect a car driving towards you at 30m.

You know the solution? Think of this. LAVs can no longer cause damage, so running into people will not kill them or damage them. It's the only way. DO IT CCP!

Or we can just remove the free LAV's altogether, forcing you to spend SP if you want to murder taxi.

100% agree with you there. I've LAVs run me over and still never show up on the map.

get rid of the free suits to. after all we cant let you infantry only players have your way.

Not really. Because then you won't have LAV users chasing people. I mean, that already makes the game look stupid when you're watching a video and see LAVs roaming around the map running people over.

No game has it as bad as this one. I've played Battlefield 3 for hours and hours and hours. And I hardly ever seen anyone get run over, because you know, you're supposed to shoot them. You don't see US Marines driving Humvee over Muslims in the Middle East do you?

No game has it as bad as this one. I've played Battlefield 3 for hours and hours and hours. And I hardly ever seen anyone get run over, because you know, you're supposed to shoot them. You don't see US Marines driving Humvee over Muslims in the Middle East do you?

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Actually would make this game so much better if you couldn't run militia gear outside of the academy or something. Just have to devise a way for people to make money if they run out of suits.

The amount of people using starter fits in IB is staggering... and its kind of sad tbh.. kills any sort of competition when people are so worried about losing money they will go 0-15 in starter fits and go... herp derp look at all the money i made!

Or read the top comment?

Welcome to New Eden. The galaxy in which anything goes.

I'm surprised nobody asked for nerfing the rookie ships in Eve Online after people discovered years ago that a fleet of a thousand FREE SHIPS with FREE MODULES can destroy an exhumer in high-sec space in a suicide gank.

If u failed to notice a fleet of rookie ships b-linging it towards u. U desiver to lose the ship lol

Militia LAVs are poo poo. Just one militia swarm launcher keeps free LAVs from going 20-0.

Why don't you ask Al-Qaeda how many cars they used as explosive devices in market places? What about people running into other people with bombs strapped to their chests? You are seriously not making any sense with your logic here.

the problem here is the competition....thats why i run free suits.....you wanna be hardcore thats fine.....dont drag me into it.

about people going 20-0 with just a free LAV?

Disgusting. what a douche bag thing to link.

I've never seen a free one go 20-0. Carry AV nades genius.

Learn to look both ways before crossing the road. I don't know how many times I have to say this. Also, play with sound on, you know when they are coming. If you are part of the 20 side of 20-0 for the LAV, then you should be ashamed of yourself.

So let me get this right you want an LAV traveling fast to hit you and do no damage right................

still mad ?

Not to put words into anyones mouth, but I think Zdubs point was that people should take the time to put together a decent fit. With a little bit of work, you can be effective without breaking the bank. For 10k-20k (with the help of a BPO or two) you can build a decent suit that will be able to adequately fill most roles and still make money.
Regarding murder-taxis, I don't see it as a huge problem. Looking both ways before crossing the street applies in video games too. Anti-vehicle can be a place where a relatively low SP player can shine in public games. Swarm launchers do wonders to discourage players from riding around in free LAVs.

Welcome to New Eden. The galaxy in which anything goes.

Remove the ability for the LAV to damage/kill.

No game has it as bad as this one. I've played Battlefield 3 for hours and hours and hours. And I hardly ever seen anyone get run over, because you know, you're supposed to shoot them. You don't see US Marines driving Humvee over Muslims in the Middle East do you?

Sure, LAVs are primarily intended for transport and logistics, but players should be allowed free reign on how to use those things beyond their intended design. In Eve Online there was this one player who was able to destroy mission-running battleship with just a simple industrial hauler. There was also a time in which batttleships (before mining ships came into existence) were primarily used for mining. What about Chribba? He has a dreadnaught floating in Amarr and he only uses it for mining. Thus the term Veldnaught was coined. Again, another tool being used outside of its intended design yet CCP allowed them to continue.

I'd also like for LAV's to actually show uo on radar further than 10 meters away. We can travel across the universe in seconds, but a suit cant detect a car driving towards you at 30m.

So let me get this right you want an LAV traveling fast to hit you and do no damage right................

Maken, none of those examples alter the very nature of gameplay for the majority of players. The use of LAVs as a primary weapon does, in fact, alter the gameplay in DUST for everyone. All the time.

That is why this situation goes beyond 'sandbox choices' and well into game balance issues.