lol I love these troll threads.

Flaylock is NOT okay. It might be okay in pubs but its a big problem in PC, and it needs to be changed.

Out of curiosity, what range are you guys engaging flaylock users? This thing is a beast in CQC, but doesn't have the range to be an effective mid range weapon unless someone is good at leading shots. I've rarely died to a flaylock unless the guy is sneaks up on me or has the height advantage.

Out of curiosity, what range are you guys engaging flaylock users? This thing is a beast in CQC, but doesn't have the range to be an effective mid range weapon unless someone is good at leading shots. I've rarely died to a flaylock unless the guy is sneaks up on me or has the height advantage.

Out of curiosity, what range are you guys engaging flaylock users? This thing is a beast in CQC, but doesn't have the range to be an effective mid range weapon unless someone is good at leading shots. I've rarely died to a flaylock unless the guy is sneaks up on me or has the height advantage.

the range is fine on its... its the obscene CQC efficacy it has that is game breaking.

It NEEDS to have its splash radius lowered, and probably its splash damage a bit as well.

I was wondering this as well problem is with the scanners on the fritz seeing someone sneaking up on ya is....well danm near impossible.

And being a sidearm it's extremely likely for an assault can be carrying one is high due to the low cpu/pg cost of the weapon.

So someone you thought you had the upper hand on, due to reloading or otherwise, can quickly wip out a n extremely powerfull weapon that, let's be honest, could pass as a primary weapon in a split second and end ya.

That being said the flaylock is no different from any other sidearm in this way, getting caught by any sidearm by surprise is likely to be the death of you so it's more the sudden, and explosive, death that angers many I think then the actual death, despite every sidearm being capable of this.

the range is fine on its... its the obscene CQC efficacy it has that is game breaking.

It NEEDS to have its splash radius lowered, and probably its splash damage a bit as well.

Agreed on all points (and this is coming from someone who uses the Flaylock as my sidearm 99% of the time). The MD is fine, the Flaylock is not.

And whoever said MD > Flaylock in 1v1 is just flat out wrong. The Time-to-Kill on the Flaylock is much much lower than the MD. Reasonably assuming all splash hits, no misses, the fights will go down like this:

Flaylock: 3 shots needed to kill the opponent from full health to zero, all hit in the span of less than 1 second.

Mass Driver: 4-5 shots needed to kill, which are severely slowed down by the MD's rate of fire. In total, will take around 5 seconds minimum.

Agreed on all points (and this is coming from someone who uses the Flaylock as my sidearm 99% of the time). The MD is fine, the Flaylock is not.

And whoever said MD > Flaylock in 1v1 is just flat out wrong. The Time-to-Kill on the Flaylock is much much lower than the MD. Reasonably assuming all splash hits, no misses, the fights will go down like this:

Flaylock: 3 shots needed to kill the opponent from full health to zero, all hit in the span of less than 1 second.

Mass Driver: 4-5 shots needed to kill, which are severely slowed down by the MD's rate of fire. In total, will take around 5 seconds minimum.

I kill flaylock users all the time because I stay out of their range or fire down on them. But at the same time, I only have 18~24 rounds in my MD depending on if I'm using the assault or standard/breach, Flaylock has 23. I think if they reduce the ammo capacity, it would cut down on the spamming and would be a good start.

flaylock deals too much damage currently and mass driver proto has a huge blast radius that should be reduced

my opinion flaylock is a weapon id see own teams

It makes me chuckle when I see ppl complaining about weapons that are made for a specific purpose. Yes an MD and a flaylock are great if you have heights in your favor or are in close quarters, but other than that they are really not efficient. You want to see OP? It's called the Duvolle assault rifle. No limitations, good at everything, drops a heavy in no time just by clicking left right left right. Now that you got used to playing rambo with it you have problems when you get too close because there are other weapons in the game. Deal with it.

I use a lvl 3 flaylock as a sidearm btw and I am not even maxed into it because I want to get good with it since all the cry babies are going to get it nerfed to the ground sooner or later. Yes I die to the proto flaylocks on a regular basis, but nowhere near as much as assault rifles, HMGs or even SMGs. I'm sure that a squad of flaylocks must be devastating but so would a squad of thukker or core spammers, a squad of MDs or anything that has splash damage as a matter of fact. Change tactics.

A squad of anything would be devastating. The laser users are making their own channel just like the massholes. Wait until you get 6 beams on you at once.

That will be awesome To see caldari logi's saying WTF happened... Where are my shoes, Why am i at the MCC, I used the best fit on the forums QQ.

The only good thing that came out of all these massive nerfs is that it brought our communities together.

Agreed. Massholes are stronger than ever and I hope this for Laser users too... And Plasma Cannons? if there are more than a handful that uses them. Currently getting an alt to view it's gamestyle

Next FotM will be the Commando with dual plasma cannons, calling it now.

Reducing splash of Mass driver was what they did in uprising, to the point where no one used it. The Damage is fine and radius is fine. Grenade launchers throw grenades, Nuff said.