DUST Search - The Mass driver is ok now / Flaylocks too

Cosgar wrote:

XxGhazbaranxX wrote:

Cosgar wrote:

loumanchew wrote:

It makes me chuckle when I see ppl complaining about weapons that are made for a specific purpose. Yes an MD and a flaylock are great if you have heights in your favor or are in close quarters, but other than that they are really not efficient. You want to see OP? It's called the Duvolle assault rifle. No limitations, good at everything, drops a heavy in no time just by clicking left right left right. Now that you got used to playing rambo with it you have problems when you get too close because there are other weapons in the game. Deal with it.

I use a lvl 3 flaylock as a sidearm btw and I am not even maxed into it because I want to get good with it since all the cry babies are going to get it nerfed to the ground sooner or later. Yes I die to the proto flaylocks on a regular basis, but nowhere near as much as assault rifles, HMGs or even SMGs. I'm sure that a squad of flaylocks must be devastating but so would a squad of thukker or core spammers, a squad of MDs or anything that has splash damage as a matter of fact. Change tactics.

A squad of anything would be devastating. The laser users are making their own channel just like the massholes. Wait until you get 6 beams on you at once.

That will be awesome To see caldari logi's saying WTF happened... Where are my shoes, Why am i at the MCC, I used the best fit on the forums QQ.

The only good thing that came out of all these massive nerfs is that it brought our communities together.


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XxGhazbaranxX The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 100	Posted - 2013.07.08 20:59:00 - [1] - Quote I am going to take this chance to stomp on all those QQers out there that seem to think that the mass driver has been made op. GTFO from that corner. GTFO from that cover. Jesus christ I will rant now. If you are being hit in a little corner where you feel safe, GET OUT. If you stay there and die it's your own fault. I was in this battle where I was using my mass driver as intended. I had put down a spawn pad on top of a low building in a domination. So naturally I was protecting that spawn for my team to come in and keep the point whenever they died. Then comes this red squad of geniuses and tries to blitz the building with six people on it. So of course My squad rips them a new one with their scramblers and assault rifles and then I come in. They Think they are safe around the corner. NOT. I start greeting them with shells of my assault mass driver, that in a normal situation would not kill anyone, But these geniuses just stayed there, in that corner taking damage, shot after shot and not moving away. WTF. Of course I got 3 kills from these half dead geniuses That thought They would stay in that corner and where already in armor with their proto caldari logistic suits. So naturally I'm thinking to myself; Are these guys for real? I mean, JESUS if I keep getting hit in a corner I'll just go around and try and kill him from another angle. maybe get a sniper to pick him off or maybe cook a grenade so it blows up in his face, but no. These are the people that come into these forums saying the weapon is OP. Well if you have no common sense and are the type of person that would touch a dog that is growling at you or a rattling rattlsnake then this game is not for you. STOP the QQ and HTFU, this ain't no Battflied/Call of Dury/any other generic shooter. This Is dust. A new and different game. As for the flaylock; yes it is a powerful weapon but people have to understand that this is a proto weapon. Christ I made an alt to test it out and whenever I try and kill proto suits it ain't no milk and cookies, and I have the core flaylock. Yes It burns through strd and maybe advanced suits that are not well equipped but Christ, If you are in a proto with good skills then you are ok. Hell, I've been with my standard gallente logi, who's bane is explosive BTW, and managed to survive engagements against these weapons because I strafe and not only that, know when to call it quits and GTFO. These weapons are getting a lot of grief by people who are lazy and want to engage everyone as if they had assault rifles. This is not that game. People can't just go in there all Hero style and try and kill everything just because they think everything is point and shoot. I'll go deeper. These same people say that the mass driver needs no skill, I do not agree. If you use the mass driver as an offensive weapon you will get kills but that's all you will do. A true master knows how to scatter his opponents and kill off stragglers. A true Mass driver logi knows how to defends his teammates and protect his his drop uplinks, and most of all, a true master knows how to heard his cattle into the pits of death. In this way, an art form, you don't get that many kills but it serves it's purpose, support. IF you nerf anything about it, you end up with an utterly useless weapon that appears once in while every 10 matches just like in the beginning of uprising.
XxGhazbaranxX The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 103	Posted - 2013.07.09 00:56:00 - [2] - Quote KingBlade82 wrote: flaylock deals too much damage currently and mass driver proto has a huge blast radius that should be reduced my opinion flaylock is a weapon id see own teams Reducing splash of Mass driver was what they did in uprising, to the point where no one used it. The Damage is fine and radius is fine. Grenade launchers throw grenades, Nuff said.
XxGhazbaranxX The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 103	Posted - 2013.07.09 00:59:00 - [3] - Quote Cosgar wrote: loumanchew wrote: It makes me chuckle when I see ppl complaining about weapons that are made for a specific purpose. Yes an MD and a flaylock are great if you have heights in your favor or are in close quarters, but other than that they are really not efficient. You want to see OP? It's called the Duvolle assault rifle. No limitations, good at everything, drops a heavy in no time just by clicking left right left right. Now that you got used to playing rambo with it you have problems when you get too close because there are other weapons in the game. Deal with it. I use a lvl 3 flaylock as a sidearm btw and I am not even maxed into it because I want to get good with it since all the cry babies are going to get it nerfed to the ground sooner or later. Yes I die to the proto flaylocks on a regular basis, but nowhere near as much as assault rifles, HMGs or even SMGs. I'm sure that a squad of flaylocks must be devastating but so would a squad of thukker or core spammers, a squad of MDs or anything that has splash damage as a matter of fact. Change tactics. A squad of anything would be devastating. The laser users are making their own channel just like the massholes. Wait until you get 6 beams on you at once. That will be awesome To see caldari logi's saying WTF happened... Where are my shoes, Why am i at the MCC, I used the best fit on the forums QQ.
XxGhazbaranxX The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 103	Posted - 2013.07.09 01:06:00 - [4] - Quote Cosgar wrote: XxGhazbaranxX wrote: Cosgar wrote: loumanchew wrote: It makes me chuckle when I see ppl complaining about weapons that are made for a specific purpose. Yes an MD and a flaylock are great if you have heights in your favor or are in close quarters, but other than that they are really not efficient. You want to see OP? It's called the Duvolle assault rifle. No limitations, good at everything, drops a heavy in no time just by clicking left right left right. Now that you got used to playing rambo with it you have problems when you get too close because there are other weapons in the game. Deal with it. I use a lvl 3 flaylock as a sidearm btw and I am not even maxed into it because I want to get good with it since all the cry babies are going to get it nerfed to the ground sooner or later. Yes I die to the proto flaylocks on a regular basis, but nowhere near as much as assault rifles, HMGs or even SMGs. I'm sure that a squad of flaylocks must be devastating but so would a squad of thukker or core spammers, a squad of MDs or anything that has splash damage as a matter of fact. Change tactics. A squad of anything would be devastating. The laser users are making their own channel just like the massholes. Wait until you get 6 beams on you at once. That will be awesome To see caldari logi's saying WTF happened... Where are my shoes, Why am i at the MCC, I used the best fit on the forums QQ. The only good thing that came out of all these massive nerfs is that it brought our communities together. Agreed. Massholes are stronger than ever and I hope this for Laser users too... And Plasma Cannons? if there are more than a handful that uses them. Currently getting an alt to view it's gamestyle
XxGhazbaranxX The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 103	Posted - 2013.07.09 01:16:00 - [5] - Quote Cosgar wrote: XxGhazbaranxX wrote: Agreed. Massholes are stronger than ever and I hope this for Laser users too... And Plasma Cannons? if there are more than a handful that uses them. Currently getting an alt to view it's gamestyle Next FotM will be the Commando with dual plasma cannons, calling it now. I think you are right. Commando give bonus to reload speed 5% per level, That's 25% ful skill another 15% from reload skill, That's a total of 40% less reload time. Plasma cannons have 3.5 second reload time for a final number of 2.1 seconds, and that my friends is no joke on a weapon that deals so much damage in a skilled users hands.
XxGhazbaranxX The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 104	Posted - 2013.07.09 03:15:00 - [6] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: KingBlade82 wrote: XxGhazbaranxX wrote: KingBlade82 wrote: flaylock deals too much damage currently and mass driver proto has a huge blast radius that should be reduced my opinion flaylock is a weapon id see own teams Reducing splash of Mass driver was what they did in uprising, to the point where no one used it. The Damage is fine and radius is fine. Grenade launchers throw grenades, Nuff said. it doe short and medium range, huge splash, more dps, deals damge to vehicles and a nice amount of ammo be lucky I said just the range its the best of all worlds and cheap lol Splash is nowhere near as large as hand thrown granades Dps is much slower then other weapons in it's class because of it's rate of fire, it's power coming from it's alpha Ammo capacity is extremely small making a way to resupply critical Shields 20% resistant making using against properly shield tanked vehicles useless Armor tanked vehicles can only be destroyed if extremely weakened or are crap Cost exactly as much as the assault rifle and requires more cpu/pg actually its 30% reduction to shield.