Amarr because their ships don't look like trash.

Amarr because their ships don't look like trash.

With most of the Amarr ships, I agree. With regards to the titan, I absolutely must disagree.

There are two ways to look at the Amarr titan: 1.) a giant floating mushroom in space, or 2.) a giant floating **** in space. Seriously. It even shoots out a yellow... beam. Which is definitely better than it shooting out a yellow liquid.

With most of the Amarr ships, I agree. With regards to the titan, I absolutely must disagree.

There are two ways to look at the Amarr titan: 1.) a giant floating mushroom in space, or 2.) a giant floating **** in space. Seriously. It even shoots out a yellow... beam. Which is definitely better than it shooting out a yellow liquid.

With most of the Amarr ships, I agree. With regards to the titan, I absolutely must disagree.

There are two ways to look at the Amarr titan: 1.) a giant floating mushroom in space, or 2.) a giant floating **** in space. Seriously. It even shoots out a yellow... beam. Which is definitely better than it shooting out a yellow liquid.

Yes this is what drew me in initially too. Eff the Gallente their ships look like mutated potatoes!

I chose Caldari since they reminded me of OCP from the Robocop movies and they have the slick stylings of 80s sci fi

Minmatar because they are pretty much the biggest badasses, escaping slavery and fighting their much better funded enemies without fear, duct taping mini scotch bottles to my knuckles and punching Amarr in the face, like Liam Neeson in The Grey, except he was punching wolves.

like Liam Neeson in The Grey, except he was punching wolves.

The fierce determination of my beloved Caldari State. We are diligent and have the fortitude to surpass any odds, even the presumed insurmountable

The fierce determination of my beloved Caldari State. We are diligent and have the fortitude to surpass any odds, even the presumed insurmountable

Gold is tacky and so last year.
All the real fashionistas are wearing rust and duct tape this season.

Minmatar all the way. Because they are the Dothraki of space.

Gallente because heroes don't look back at explosions. The ships look good. We win. Real men armor tank. Freedom.

"Float like a Floatbot; sting like an automatic stinging machine." Bender

Caldari because of lore and ideology.

The four factions were very much based on western political thought and tradition as it is understood by Europeans

The conservative factions are Amarr and Caldari, the liberal factions are Gallante and Minmatar

The Amarr are the compassionate traditionalists and the Caldari are the Militaristic Capitalists, both which share high priority in stability and hierarchy.

The Gallante are literally the "liberals" (as it is understood in the US), if it feels good do it as long as it doesn't hurt anyone no other morality is needed, the Minmatar are the minorities who are ethnocentric and operate in such blocs. Both are united by their simple hatred of other hierarchies.

There is even cultural conflict between both allied groups which we can go on all day analyzing the political aspects of it but in regards to Caldari

They are the Early America of space, broke away from an older power, the early corps that made up the nation were like the early states in the US, due to their founding they also had a strong military culture. They aren't touchy-feely, yet they are community oriented. Decentralized yet structured which was how early America operated.

Freedom and fireworks, why else.

Gallente because heroes don't look back at explosions. The ships look good. We win. Real men armor tank. Freedom.

"Float like a Floatbot; sting like an automatic stinging machine." Bender

Gallante because FREEEEEEEEDOOOOOOOM

I support Amarr because they are the only faction that has a clear cut purpose in life. Their goal is to conquer all of the stars to unite humanity in faith and peace. The other factions on the other hand don't really come off as having a greater purpose, they exist merely to survive.

Also all our ships, armor, gadgets, and weaponry look like pure class and for a science fiction game its a bit surprising they are the only ones to use lasers.







I'm curious, all you who picked Gallente for freedom - did you actually research how their democracy works and events which transpired in the Federation, or simply saw the in-game description of "the only true democracy in New Eden" and went with it? I'm not saying there is no reason to support the Gallente, but I'm a little curious.

Well to be fair as we were talking about yesterday a large part of Dusts player base is American so we can see why they would sympathise with the Gallentean and Matari ideals.

I go Gallente for the philosophy alone.

Well to be fair as we were talking about yesterday a large part of Dusts player base is American so we can see why they would sympathise with the Gallentean and Matari ideals.

I picked amarr because its religious aspect is completely the opposite of my RL outlook, but also lasers and their ships look awesome, but its hard to go against your true nature and I ended up RPing as a rebel khanid mercenary, I've fought on both sides lol when they were losing, I was there when UK got pushed out of provi and I was on CVAs side when they got pushed out, fun times.

I would say that it is mostly due to the fact that most of my generation's imagery is generated by Hollywood idealism in which "good guys" may make mistakes but deserve another go and "bad guys" never have good intentions. Buzz words like democracy and diversity have positive connotations associated with the idealistic who want to change the world, which the Gallante and Minmatar are practically stamped with.

Also for the fact I stated in regard to ideology, most teens and young adults are more liberally prone and rebellious against hierarchy, so the congruence is if anything expected.

So Gallante are the weed smokers? LOL, do I have that correct?

i chose Gallente because of their ideology, sure there system is flawed, every empire or nation is flawed, the Caldari are flawed due to their ideology of profiteering, the Amarr are flawed because they are basically the religious fanatics of new eden, the Minmatar are flawed because they use emotions 90% of the time regardless of facts and proof, the Gallente are flawed because its easier for you to fall to the bottom than it to climb to the top.

Dude if you bothered to ready up on lore you would know that Blood Raiders, and other Sani Sabik Cultists are fanatics, the Amarr simply have a faith.

Those other guys are the real fanatics.

Dude if you bothered to ready up on lore you would know that Blood Raiders, and other Sani Sabik Cultists are fanatics, the Amarr simply have a faith.

Those other guys are the real fanatics.

The Sani Sabik cults are not mentioned when picking one of the four selectable races. When you start Dust (and I assume EVE), the Amarr are the only ones mentioned to have faith, thus instantly the religious fanatics.

the lore is where I got everything from. in the lore of the amarr when you listen to the audio version says:

"the Amarr Empire is the largest and oldest of the 4 empires, ruled by a mighty empress the Amarr are capable of great acts and great tyranny, all in the name of their god".

So Gallante are the weed smokers? LOL, do I have that correct?

Tyranny has also gotten a severely negative connotation when it simply means a society ruled by a single leader. It doesn't necessarily imply that the ruler is evil or doesn't think in the best interest of his or her people.

I imagine that the definition of tyranny in this case is stemmed towards the amarr's history of killing everyone who thinks differently and mercilessly destroying civilizations weaker than them because their god demands it.

the lore is where I got everything from. in the lore of the amarr when you listen to the audio version says:

"the Amarr Empire is the largest and oldest of the 4 empires, ruled by a mighty empress the Amarr are capable of great acts and great tyranny, all in the name of their god".

The Ammar were slavers and I'm just too much of a good guy at heart to ever condone it, even to digital avatars.

Minmatar/Caldari support. I chose Minmatar initially because I read "The Empyrean age" book. The Minmatar, in that book seemed like righteous crusaders of freedom against oppression and were depicted as (somewhat stupid) victims to fate. They also lived by my usual tactics of "hit hard and get the F*** out!" Truth is, even if the lore is now making them look bad, they are still my favorite race.

The Gallente seemed just too American Idealist for my taste, (I figured they would get a lot of "Mericuh F*** Yeah" and I didn't want in on that.) even if I don't see them that way anymore.

The Ammar were slavers and I'm just too much of a good guy at heart to ever condone it, even to digital avatars.

For the Caldari, the only reason I didn't like them was because of what I had read about Heth, but now that Heth has disapeared I support them. Their lore is my second favorite even if it depicts them as cold and calculating.

Minnies are okay in my books...don't take the the wrong way PIE, I just have no hate for them....however it do want to see them reclaimed by God.

Where did you gather that bunch of lies? The Amarr only engage in war with those who threaten their way of life, as do the other empires. They don't destroy civilizations, they assimilate them. They are not the only race to partake in assimilation, look at your own Gellente with the Intaki and Jin-Mei. All the empires have expanded and taken over other civilizations to become as expansive as they are now.

The thing about Ammarian slavery is it is different than the slavery that existed on Earth. Here we enslaved people because we needed the labor and viewed the slaves as inferior. There was never an intention to one day free them. With the Amarr, their slavery is more of a right of passage. Their ancestors dealt with hardships which formed the core beliefs their culture runs on, and in order to understand it they believe the other societies must too experience that. They do not look down upon the slaves though, in fact one of their past emperors made it law to treat the slaves with the utmost respect. They truly believe what they are doing is a good service to them, and they fully intend to free them after their passage is complete and welcome them as equals among their society.

Kind of sounds like an abusive relationship
"I only hit you because I love you"

Expect we don't hit slaves..... as he said.

Fair call but the only thing you can say that is kind of negative about the amarr is the slavery and even that is idealistically explain by their progressive system of amalgamation into a single collective race.

Kind of sounds like an abusive relationship
"I only hit you because I love you"

Huh, of my knowledge though the Amarr don't hit their slaves or anything of that nature, simply give them labors. Still kind of an abusive relationship I suppose, but it has worked. Outside of the Gallente meddling with the Minmatar, all other races have gone through this right of passage and since have been able to live in peace within the Empire. You can't really say for the Federation, the other expansionists. Many Intaki wish to secede, and Caldari already have. You could say the same about the Minmatar, but again that wasn't on their own accord but from outside influences by the Federation who had their own agenda.

Hey can somebody send me a link to all this lore. I always find pieces of it everywhere but I want a full on book that I can read. I love the background stories.

Yet you choose to focus on the negative acts?

EVElopedia is the place to go it has all the general content on all of the factions as well as the chronicles/ short stories CCP puts out to support the lore.

http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Main_Page

I don't see any positive acts from the amarr

You the man! Or woman...thanks!

Huh, of my knowledge though the Amarr don't hit their slaves or anything of that nature, simply give them labors. Still kind of an abusive relationship I suppose, but it has worked. Outside of the Gallente meddling with the Minmatar, all other races have gone through this right of passage and since have been able to live in peace within the Empire. You can't really say for the Federation, the other expansionists. Many Intaki wish to secede, and Caldari already have. You could say the same about the Minmatar, but again that wasn't on their own accord but from outside influences by the Federation who had their own agenda.

The Federation because we are the defenders of freedom, and we have the power to back it up. The Caldari had always been filled with traitorous blood, and the Amarr's slavery clashes with our sense of morality.

Firstly, ships do not look good..... they look terribly but not as bad as the Minmatar ships, secondly win, sure you do comparatively more players support the Gallente over the other races so winning through numbers while commendable is not admirable, thirdly yes REAL MEN armour tank!

Okay I'm reading about the Acadmey of Aggressive Behavior. Are the jove still around?

I love the look of the Gallente ships; they are sleek, sexy and look futuristic. I don't like rust so Minmatar ships are not for me. I do like some of the Caldari ships and the Amarr.....well they're Amarr.

Why do you think that more people are Gallente? Is it because they are first in line.

I love the look of the Gallente ships; they are sleek, sexy and look futuristic. I don't like rust so Minmatar ships are not for me. I do like some of the Caldari ships and the Amarr.....well they're Amarr.

Why do you think that more people are Gallente? Is it because they are first in line.

Gotta love how some people read a few things on the EVE wiki and suddenly think they know eve lore.




About hitting slaves:

"The guard wound his arm back and struck again. Sparks exploded from the slaveGÇÖs back, and this time he crumpled to the ground in a heap. The cauterized wounds intersected the previous marks, creating an approximate visage of the Sign. The beauty of the Faith, the guard thought, is that it offers a path for the unborn. Paradise was the exclusive birthright of pureblooded Amarrians, but for all othersGÇöincluding the Matari wretch lying at his feetGÇösalvation had to be earned. Only through suffering can the unborn rise from the shadow of death to gain the blessing of immortality. I might yet walk in heaven with this one, the guard thought. His subservience speaks mountains of his quest for forgiveness."

About the Intaki: Currently, even with the turmoil in past years regarding seperatist movements, most Intaki still wish to remain federation citizens. Much of the anti-federation sentiment comes from security matters long ago that unfortunately forced the creation of the Intaki Syndicate, which then became heavily tied into illegal practices.

About the Federation and the Minmatar: The Gallente aided the Minmatar rebellion by providing them with weapons, which the Jove actually delivered. The entire rebellion was a convergence of agendas: the Minmatar breaking their bonds, the Gallente aiding their rebellion partly for the cause of freedom, and partly to weaken the Amarrians who were on the verge of more 'reclaiming', and the Jove who needed to fight the Enheiduanni, but also found great compassion for the Minmatar and the horrors they were enduring.

That is the problem with the Gallente. Always dreaming of the "beautiful" and proposed "democracy" instead of building fortitude, tradition and pride. What are exactly are they first in line for? Hopefully its for a gruesome death...

Also they meddle in the affairs of the other empires in the same way the Amarr do preach the word of God.

Amarr are egotistical asses, they force their religion on others and kill those who dont convert
Caldari only care about money, fighting for a profit is pretty lame. They were our brothers, now they are strangers fighting a lost cause
Minmatars are okay, they had a hard time but daddy gallente got your back...just stop making anti armor weapons
Gallente because you're free to do whatever they want and they're the most technologically advanced race, they fight oppressive asses who think they're hot stuff

So Ive been reading a bit more lore and some responses in this thread and the Gallente just sound so damn self righteous all the time and dont even have a religion like the Amarr as an excuse for it

Where did you gather that bunch of lies? The Amarr only engage in war with those who threaten their way of life, as do the other empires. They don't destroy civilizations, they assimilate them. They are not the only race to partake in assimilation, look at your own Gellente with the Intaki and Jin-Mei. All the empires have expanded and taken over other civilizations to become as expansive as they are now.

This thread asked for peoples opinions on why they chose a faction, you should leave the role play stuff to threads in the role play section, in an out of character thread your just gunna be seen as a male reproductive organ RPing amarr.

Gallente feels American and im American sooooo :P plus I think they seem more heroic than others and I like being a good guy

Im not trying to **** on their parade you over reacting toss bag, what i am doing is pointing out that they will turn ppl off role play before it even starts if they RP at ppl in a general forum.

Gallente feels American and im American sooooo :P plus I think they seem more heroic than others and I like being a good guy

How so? Caldari seems more american than the others if you want to go that way
Breaking free from a larger empire, having said empire respond with force, defeating said empire and establishing their homeland once again

I mean the 4th of July was even a few days ago, how can you not draw parallels between Caldari and American history
Even our rampant capitalism with corporations holding sway matches and the whole work hard and establish yourself based on merit is just a repacking of the American Dream spiel

Except I wasn't RPing there, I was merely pointing out my thoughts and reasoning behind why I support the Amarr.

EDIT: Though I suppose when I'm switching back and forth from IC and OOC they can begin to blur a bit. However, it is a bit ridiculous to suggest that the only way to support the Amarrs ideology is through pretending in role-play.

Minmatar sucks and amarr stuff just looks godly

How so? Caldari seems more american than the others if you want to go that way
Breaking free from a larger empire, having said empire respond with force, defeating said empire and establishing their homeland once again

I mean the 4th of July was even a few days ago, how can you not draw parallels between Caldari and American history
Even our rampant capitalism with corporations holding sway matches and the whole work hard and establish yourself based on merit is just a repacking of the American Dream spiel

So I always wondered why the player base of this game supports the factions they do.

If anyone has ever seen my posts they will know I'm an Amarr Loyalist, and preach the word where and whenever I can to those unenlightened amongst you, also I'm a bit of a Caldari Fan as well, an have two toons that are both Caldari Loyalists as well, on training for scout suits, and the other hopefull going to run into Heavy or Commando.

Either way my question to you guys is if you have a preferred Faction in Dust/EVE/ New Eden what is it and why do you support it?

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Caldari is ran by a corporate semi-communist government.. we are not quite there yet

Caldari, and more so Ishukone. The idea of a Corporate State is fascinating to me, and Ishukone because they are the least evil (not saying they are all happy roses by any means) of the Big Eight.
It's a good day to be Caldari too, that idiot Heth is out of office for good :)

The Gallenteans. Self-righteous, meddling, pompous and tiresome, or virile liberalists and defenders of the free world. Love them or hate them, you simply can't ignore them. Everybody has an opinion on the Gallente Federation, it all depends from which side of the table you view them. For many, it is the Promised Land, where any dream can become a reality. Descendants of Tau Ceti Frenchmen, the Gallenteans remain strong believers in free will and human rights, despite numerous setbacks in their long history.

It has been said that, once you have seen the Crystal Boulevard in Caille you've seen it all. True, the view is spectacular, but if there's one thing you can never see in its entirety, that is the Gallente Federation. You may travel its length and breadth, marvel at the Sunspiral on Troux, climb the Akat Mountains on tropical Intaki or thrill to the Mendre dancers on Sovicou. Wherever you go, you will always see something new and exciting, even when you visit the same place again. Gallente society is in a constant state of flux, vigorous, vibrant and progressive.





A Senator debates some issues in the Federal Senate.

Few societies display such stark contrasts. Many of the wealthiest people in the world are Gallenteans, creating a constant demand for luxury goods. At the same time, the ranks of the poor number millions, because while the liberal market-driven economy and individual freedom may allow everybody the chance to advance to the top, they make it just as easy to plummet to the very bottom of the social ladder.

In the world of EVE, the Gallentean are the kings of entertainment, mass-producing everything from cheap ****-flicks to elaborate stage-shows for an ever-hungry public. They boast the most elaborate luxury space yachts, and the most glittering hotel reservoirs. Anything your mind or body could ever crave, the Gallenteans have plenty of it.

The Gallenteans are not alone in their Federation, whose boundaries are home to pockets of residents, varying in size and representing all the other races of EVE, most of whom left their own empires due to political or ideological differences, or simply in search of peace and prosperity. In addition to these there are two human races, the Intakis and the Mannars, both of whom the Gallenteans found while exploring and expanding their empire. Both were at a very primitive level when the Gallenteans found them, but since coming under the protection and guidance of the Gallenteans, both races have flourished and are today a full-fledged members of the Federation.

The Caldari were initially part of the Federation but deep-seated differences and mutual animosity between them and the Gallenteans drove them out to found their own empire. For a time, the two empires warred against each other, but as neither could gain sufficient advantage to claim victory, peace was settled in the end.



TLDR: they are the equivalent of America in a way and i am a proud american most days

Sounds like the British Empire to me

So, the majority chose Gallente because -- 'Fleeeeeeeedooooooommmm'? Somewhat expected yet sad

Book of DEI

I am supported by my Faith and my hatred for for Minmatar SCUM

Sounds like the British Empire to me

Really?

I support Amarr because they are the only faction that has a clear cut purpose in life. Their goal is to conquer all of the stars to unite humanity in faith and peace. The other factions on the other hand don't really come off as having a greater purpose, they exist merely to survive.

Also all our ships, armor, gadgets, and weaponry look like pure class and for a science fiction game its a bit surprising they are the only ones to use lasers.







I'm curious, all you who picked Gallente for freedom - did you actually research how their democracy works and events which transpired in the Federation, or simply saw the in-game description of "the only true democracy in New Eden" and went with it? I'm not saying there is no reason to support the Gallente, but again I'm curious.

I went im for the first statement, stayed.for the researched materials, and rejoiced.at our superior torture methods.

I went im for the first statement, stayed.for the researched materials, and rejoiced.at our superior torture methods.

Amarr only win for showmanship, their methods look as painful as they are, I disagree about caldari though

Gallente because, well... **** capitalists and religious nut jobs (not particularly eloquent but hey)

I dunno if they even torture... I assume they were just practical and executed you.

That would be pretty impractical of them, because they can't learn about their enemies if their link is dead.

Fair call.

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Fair call.

Amarr are egotistical asses, they force their religion on others and kill those who dont convert
Caldari only care about money, fighting for a profit is pretty lame. They were our brothers, now they are strangers fighting a lost cause
Minmatars are okay, they had a hard time but daddy gallente got your back...just stop making anti armor weapons
Gallente because you're free to do whatever they want and they're the 2nd most technologically advanced race, they fight oppressive asses who think they're hot stuff

And you have to admire that we punish until they beg for death.

So I always wondered why the player base of this game supports the factions they do.

If anyone has ever seen my posts they will know I'm an Amarr Loyalist, and preach the word where and whenever I can to those unenlightened amongst you, also I'm a bit of a Caldari Fan as well, an have two toons that are both Caldari Loyalists as well, on training for scout suits, and the other hopefull going to run into Heavy or Commando.

Either way my question to you guys is if you have a preferred Faction in Dust/EVE/ New Eden what is it and why do you support it?

Pretty much this. Caldari's butthurt because We're we're better than them, and Amarr is scared of us. We have better fighters, so they won't **** with the Federation. Reason why The State and Empire gets their ass handed to them in FW. All I can say is come at us

Dunno but Gallente and Trashies got their arses in EvE kicked so hard that the main Amarr FW alliance, I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth quit it for null sec

All I know of them is what was on the character creation screen.
The Gallente seemed like the most technologically advanced without being imperialistic scum.
Caldaris feel/look like Master Chief wannabes.
Amarr would be far less numerous without Heavies.
Minmatar should be more beastly. More speed, stamina, heavy armor plating, etc.

I don't recall anything about all races being united by the color yellow.

Its a shame they did to be honest. More bodies are needed on the front now.

Well, let's hope CFC is pushed back

Amarr are religious and the largest race they are big conqueors don't get in their way
Minmitar are the smallest and were slaves to the Amarr they want to rise ;)
Caldari had been conquered by the Gallente far in the past but now are a large mega corporation and military faction
Gallente stand for peace and **** but are a bunch of ass holes none the less I love them. Remember Caldari Prime?

the Avatar still beats the Minnie and Caldari Titans for aesthetics hands down.

Yeah, I have to admit that the other titans are even uglier. And, of course, the Avatar's doomsday device is absolutely epic.

Well said, unbiased relatively speaking.... and technically it was the Caldari who started the whole shooting match in Lumaire....it was just the Gallente who sunk that titan killing millions and forever affecting the ecology of the planet....

Oddly enough, I am Caldari for just about the same reason. Omni Consumer Products...I'll buy that for a dollar.

Amarr are religious and the largest race they are big conqueors don't get in their way
Minmitar are the smallest and were slaves to the Amarr they want to rise ;)
Caldari had been conquered by the Gallente far in the past but now are a large mega corporation and military faction
Gallente stand for peace and **** but are a bunch of ass holes none the less I love them. Remember Caldari Prime?

Well said, unbiased relatively speaking.... and technically it was the Caldari who started the whole shooting match in Lumaire....it was just the Gallente who sunk that titan killing millions and forever affecting the ecology of the planet....

Caldari is ran by a corporate semi-communist government.. we are not quite there yet

Yeah its like most of the player base puts no thought into this.....and in a game with such an expansive universe.....its kind of important....

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Be your own Judge. What game looks like more fun to you? Dust.........Or these other F2P games coming this year.........

Planetside 2 (19 GOTY Awards)

Coming to PS4 this year...

Neither looks like fun.

Planetside 2 is a piece of crap, warframe is a 3rd person joke.

The only thing that does look good is Blacklight and that's only because it is what dust should be.

What's so bad about warframe? It looks like Devil May Cry mixed with Vanquish.

Hack n Slash style games really aren't my style.... but its mainly because its in 3rd person so the comparison between the two games is really invalidated since they are so vastly different....yes same genre, but not same type of game as entirely different styles are trying to be achieved.

So it's not really a joke, it's just not your game style?
It just seems pretty fun. It reminds me of Vanquish which was pretty fun, but with a lot more polish and parkour.

Guess Im just over that guy posting his crap all over the place.

Minmatar because there the biggest badasses in this joint.

I like their way. Now if only they made grip-tape in the future.

Amarr for the sexy.
http://i.imgur.com/sUmwLWh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/xSxlftZ.png
Best looking proto logi suit and it comes with a sidearm.

It's not like its their fault. Typically you learn about a game's story by playing it.
No one would know about Evelopedia before downloading the game, and it doesn't really make sense to expect players to spend time reading pages about races in a game they haven't even played yet.
There's also nothing in Dust so far that would suggest it has a deep backstory, and the racial description never mentions anything about Gallentean freedom not always being what you think it would be. Or that it might sometimes have a downside.
To be quite honest, I'm surprised people even bothered to read the descriptions instead of choosing their favorite color or flipping a coin.

Amarr tech always looks the best. As soon as the Amarr pilot and dropship are released my advanced Assault and advanced Commando won't be seeing much light. Don't even care if dropships aren't fixed by then, the Amarr dropship just looks so good.


This is definitely a problem. It would be nice if there was some intro cutscenes all first time players had to watch that helped portray the races, and I'm not talking about those 30 second clips from the Home space that barely tell you anything.

Agreed.... when the Amarr tanks come out Adamance won't be seeing the loving beam of that laser rifle..... he'll be madly cackling as be burn entire platoons away with a laser turret.

Speaking of which, imagine this

Amarr Warbarge
Amarr MCC
Amarr Laser Turret Installations
Amarr CRUs
Amarr Supply Depots
Amarr Orbital Artillery Outpost
Amarr Biomass Outpost
Amarr Communications Outpost
and all the Amarr Vehicles

Not gonna lie, the future battlefields are going to be sexy.

Amarr
because we are just simple misunderstood

Amarr for the sexy.
http://i.imgur.com/sUmwLWh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/xSxlftZ.png
Best looking proto logi suit and it comes with a sidearm.

Gallente, because... they are streamlined.

For the ladies. (;



And am i the only one, who thinks that (with an eye on the concept art on Minmatar and Amarr vehicles) the current Gal und Cal vehicles are to similar?

Gallente, because... they are streamlined.

For the ladies. (;



And am i the only one, who thinks that (with an eye on the concept art on Minmatar and Amarr vehicles) the current Gal und Cal vehicles are to similar?

Well considering that the Gallente and Caldari originate from the same star, it is not surprising.

I like Gallente, but I do not support really support the Federation per se. My character is more interested in the well being of his own race, the Intaki, specifically the state in which his homeworld is in due to being lowsec space by CONCORD. He remains neutral on the Empyrean War(Faction warfare) aside the few times he gets contracted to participate in them by his squad leader. He does not shame his Gallente citizenship, but he will point out the problems that lie in the Federation without doubt.

Nice..... Im glad you aren't Intaki Liberation Front....

That is going to change soon, my dear friend.

Crap.... I weep for my State Trooper Alts.....

Why? What's wrong with ILF?

I was sure they were out to kill our boys in blue.

ILF's interests are to protect the Intaki Assembly territory, mainly the Placid region in New Eden and provide support for the Intaki planets in terms of food, supplies and medicine. ILF has no interest in FW battles, so your Caldari alts should be safe unless they decide to attack Placid region planets, when they get opened up for PC.

Meh want to break the Gallente in two...that gonna be a problem for you?

If it does not pose a direct threat to me or my accomplices, no.

Well it would be easier to say the main reason for not liking the other races.

Amarr- Religious zealot, slavers, I don't give a flying flip for people trying to be apologetic for the Amarr either.

Caldari- Even though I sympathize with them that is simply not the way I would want a society to work. I do admire their loyalty though.

Minmatar- I really don't have much of a complaint about the Minmatar besides that they base a lot of their actions based on emmotion rather than logic.

So I went with Gallente because of why everyone else went with them. I know that their citizens at least have a choice how to live their life...for the most part... They are they second largest empire but their military is voluntary, you aren't even forced to go to a military school with the Gallente. I'm aware of the ****** up **** Gallente have done (example, the Caldari incident) and the flaws in their society but I still see their society as decent and more in tune with my view.

None of these empires are the good guys but I believe it's safe to say that Amarr take the cake as general bad guys IMO.

No threats at all. We luv you Intaki.

Well it would be easier to say the main reason for not liking the other races.

Amarr- Religious zealot, slavers, I don't give a flying flip for people trying to be apologetic for the Amarr either.

Caldari- Even though I sympathize with them that is simply not the way I would want a society to work. I do admire their loyalty though.

Minmatar- I really don't have much of a complaint about the Minmatar besides that they base a lot of their actions based on emmotion rather than logic.

So I went with Gallente because of why everyone else went with them. I know that their citizens at least have a choice how to live their life...for the most part... They are they second largest empire but their military is voluntary, you aren't even forced to go to a military school with the Gallente. I'm aware of the ****** up **** Gallente have done (example, the Caldari incident) and the flaws in their society but I still see their society as decent and more in tune with my view.

None of these empires are the good guys but I believe it's safe to say that Amarr take the cake as general bad guys IMO.

It is also noteworthy to say that I'm not very Pro Federation but I'm more in tuned with Gallente Society and their ideals.

Gallente - Their economy is held together by the drug market. A bunch of people trying to run a democracy without a clear head. Claim to be champions of freedom yet have a problem when a society peacefully exists with traditions not to their standard, even if everyone within that society is happy with their culture.

While it's true that one would not normally think against the only kind of life a person has known that does not mean that style is automatically justified or morale.

I'm pretty open to what people think is wrong and right and the area that a person grew up in is a main factor in how you will think.
However, the enslavement of innocent because the Amarrians saw them as lesser beings in the name of their god is pretty universally seen as "uncool" (at least by a lot of Earths Inhabitants I would think so).
Just because you have faith doesn't justify morally corrupt acts because you believe them to be good.
Last time I checked Christians weren't really cool with the idea of slavery anymore.

I think one of the things that makes the faction dynamic in New Eden so interesting is that everyone has genuine reason to do the things that they do, and genuine reason to hate another faction.
It's never as simple as good guys and bad guys.

I support the Gallente, personally, but I look through the chronicles and understand the Caldari - While Nouvelle Rouvenor was an evil act, it wasn't carried out on behalf of all the Caldari people and bombing their planet was an evil act as well, though brought on by the chain of events. The chain of events continues with every side having real reason to do the things that they do but at the same time those events tend to be horrible.

The only person I think I really dislike is Tibus Heth. Initially I liked him, being a 'champion of the downtrodden', but threatening to glass billions trumps pretty much every other despicable act in the war so far.

Gallente - Their economy is held together by the drug market. A bunch of people trying to run a democracy without a clear head. Claim to be champions of freedom yet have a problem when a society peacefully exists with traditions not to their standard, even if everyone within that society is happy with their culture.

I would love to hear your argument as to why the Amarrians are the clear cut choice for the "bad guys" of New Eden. I will counter it and give reasons for the Gallente to be seen as the worst empire, and I am a proud American.

Nor is democracy a justified form of living.

But I see what you are saying.

But how can you say you honestly support a system that actively seeks to weed out the weakest members of society, and then establish a class systems while preaching against it.....

Congratulations, I believe I have already stated that I'm more in tuned with their ideals and not with their government or how things are ran and executed (as hinted several times within that post) I also put an IMO at the end as well.

I'm also aware of the Massacre of Cadarians (correct term?) at the hands of the Gallente (as I also hinted in the post).

I'd love to see your argument as to why you see the Amarr as your preferred empire/race/society what have you.

While it's true that one would not normally think against the only kind of life a person has known that does not mean that style is automatically justified or morale.

I'm pretty open to what people think is wrong and right and the area that a person grew up in is a main factor in how you will think.
However, the enslavement of innocent because the Amarrians saw them as lesser beings in the name of their god is pretty universally seen as "uncool" (at least by a lot of Earths Inhabitants I would think so).
Just because you have faith doesn't justify morally corrupt acts because you believe them to be good.
Last time I checked Christians weren't really cool with the idea of slavery anymore.

Congratulations, I believe I have already stated that I'm more in tuned with their ideals and not with their government or how things are ran and executed (as hinted several times within that post) I also put an IMO at the end as well.

I'm also aware of the Massacre of Cadarians (correct term?) at the hands of the Gallente (as I also hinted in the post).

I'd love to see your argument as to why you see the Amarr as your preferred empire/race/society what have you.

I wasn't claiming you fully supported the Gallente, I read your post and understand that you don't. I was merely stating a reason why I don't like them, which you told us to do.

As for why the Amarr are my preferred empire/race/society, I'll start with this a misunderstanding

You equated slavery in Amarr society to slavery on Earth, when they have very little in common. On Earth people enslaved others because they viewed them as inferior and needed the labor. They were often treated poorly and were never intended to be freed. In Amarr society, slavery is more of a right of passage. Amarrians don't view other races as inferior, they simply view them not to have an understanding of the truth. Through hardships they believe one becomes closer to God and understanding. They are told by imperial law to treat slaves with respect, and eventually each race will complete their passage and be welcomed among the Amarr society as equals. In short, they genuinely feel what they are doing a favor for them where as on Earth people just abused each other because they could.

Onto point though, the Amarr Empire is one of the more peaceful ones out there. Not much violence among their civilians (unlike a certain crazed Federation man who went on a rampage killing 59 Matari including the Ray of Matar). Everyone is working for a single goal, yet they do not limit individuality like Caldari State. They are very accepting of all people regardless of race, and contrary to what you may think the Amarr Empire is one of the most ethnically diverse in all of New Eden.

I certainly hope CCP plans to take Amarr further along the road to reform, its always seemed like CCP hates Amarr and considering the scifi crowds hatred of religion and its liberal leanings Amarr was never made to be popular.

I would love to see the amarrian faction do a backflip on slavery and become more about enlightenment and religion, atleast then it would be only half as abhorrent in the eyes of the average scifi loving gamer :D

This.

However it must be said we have had a history of aggression, the more reformist supporters in the empire are gaining power and this looks set to change.

Also the Amarr do not spoil for combat like the Minmatar do. The general amarrian is relatively sad when they would consider the prospect of war and violence however they do understand it as a means to an end, and would only engage in it because they believe they have the divine right to unite this galaxy.

I certainly hope CCP plans to take Amarr further along the road to reform, its always seemed like CCP hates Amarr and considering the scifi crowds hatred of religion and its liberal leanings Amarr was never made to be popular.

I would love to see the amarrian faction do a backflip on slavery and become more about enlightenment and religion, atleast then it would be only half as abhorrent in the eyes of the average scifi loving gamer :D

Of course, the Amarr Empire has had some faulty leadership in the past, but which society hasn't?


I would quit Dust if this happened. There is nothing in the lore to believe such a reform is even a remote possibility, but to do it anyways simply because a few fans have a problem with them would be ridiculous.

Also you say Amarr isn't popular, yet I always see them everywhere in the warbarge and in game, plus at the Intergalactic Summit here I see tons of Amarr on these forums. I would love to see some graphs regarding to what percent of the player base is what race.