Amarr because their ships don't look like trash.

Freedom and fireworks, why else.

Gallente because heroes don't look back at explosions. The ships look good. We win. Real men armor tank. Freedom.

"Float like a Floatbot; sting like an automatic stinging machine." Bender

Gallante because FREEEEEEEEDOOOOOOOM

Well to be fair as we were talking about yesterday a large part of Dusts player base is American so we can see why they would sympathise with the Gallentean and Matari ideals.

Dude if you bothered to ready up on lore you would know that Blood Raiders, and other Sani Sabik Cultists are fanatics, the Amarr simply have a faith.

Those other guys are the real fanatics.

The thing about Ammarian slavery is it is different than the slavery that existed on Earth. Here we enslaved people because we needed the labor and viewed the slaves as inferior. There was never an intention to one day free them. With the Amarr, their slavery is more of a right of passage. Their ancestors dealt with hardships which formed the core beliefs their culture runs on, and in order to understand it they believe the other societies must too experience that. They do not look down upon the slaves though, in fact one of their past emperors made it law to treat the slaves with the utmost respect. They truly believe what they are doing is a good service to them, and they fully intend to free them after their passage is complete and welcome them as equals among their society.

Kind of sounds like an abusive relationship
"I only hit you because I love you"

Yet you choose to focus on the negative acts?

EVElopedia is the place to go it has all the general content on all of the factions as well as the chronicles/ short stories CCP puts out to support the lore.

http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Main_Page

Firstly, ships do not look good..... they look terribly but not as bad as the Minmatar ships, secondly win, sure you do comparatively more players support the Gallente over the other races so winning through numbers while commendable is not admirable, thirdly yes REAL MEN armour tank!

Huh, of my knowledge though the Amarr don't hit their slaves or anything of that nature, simply give them labors. Still kind of an abusive relationship I suppose, but it has worked. Outside of the Gallente meddling with the Minmatar, all other races have gone through this right of passage and since have been able to live in peace within the Empire. You can't really say for the Federation, the other expansionists. Many Intaki wish to secede, and Caldari already have. You could say the same about the Minmatar, but again that wasn't on their own accord but from outside influences by the Federation who had their own agenda.

I love the look of the Gallente ships; they are sleek, sexy and look futuristic. I don't like rust so Minmatar ships are not for me. I do like some of the Caldari ships and the Amarr.....well they're Amarr.

Why do you think that more people are Gallente? Is it because they are first in line.

Where did you gather that bunch of lies? The Amarr only engage in war with those who threaten their way of life, as do the other empires. They don't destroy civilizations, they assimilate them. They are not the only race to partake in assimilation, look at your own Gellente with the Intaki and Jin-Mei. All the empires have expanded and taken over other civilizations to become as expansive as they are now.

Gallente feels American and im American sooooo :P plus I think they seem more heroic than others and I like being a good guy

Im not trying to **** on their parade you over reacting toss bag, what i am doing is pointing out that they will turn ppl off role play before it even starts if they RP at ppl in a general forum.

Minmatar sucks and amarr stuff just looks godly

How so? Caldari seems more american than the others if you want to go that way
Breaking free from a larger empire, having said empire respond with force, defeating said empire and establishing their homeland once again

I mean the 4th of July was even a few days ago, how can you not draw parallels between Caldari and American history
Even our rampant capitalism with corporations holding sway matches and the whole work hard and establish yourself based on merit is just a repacking of the American Dream spiel

The Gallenteans. Self-righteous, meddling, pompous and tiresome, or virile liberalists and defenders of the free world. Love them or hate them, you simply can't ignore them. Everybody has an opinion on the Gallente Federation, it all depends from which side of the table you view them. For many, it is the Promised Land, where any dream can become a reality. Descendants of Tau Ceti Frenchmen, the Gallenteans remain strong believers in free will and human rights, despite numerous setbacks in their long history.

It has been said that, once you have seen the Crystal Boulevard in Caille you've seen it all. True, the view is spectacular, but if there's one thing you can never see in its entirety, that is the Gallente Federation. You may travel its length and breadth, marvel at the Sunspiral on Troux, climb the Akat Mountains on tropical Intaki or thrill to the Mendre dancers on Sovicou. Wherever you go, you will always see something new and exciting, even when you visit the same place again. Gallente society is in a constant state of flux, vigorous, vibrant and progressive.





A Senator debates some issues in the Federal Senate.

Few societies display such stark contrasts. Many of the wealthiest people in the world are Gallenteans, creating a constant demand for luxury goods. At the same time, the ranks of the poor number millions, because while the liberal market-driven economy and individual freedom may allow everybody the chance to advance to the top, they make it just as easy to plummet to the very bottom of the social ladder.

In the world of EVE, the Gallentean are the kings of entertainment, mass-producing everything from cheap ****-flicks to elaborate stage-shows for an ever-hungry public. They boast the most elaborate luxury space yachts, and the most glittering hotel reservoirs. Anything your mind or body could ever crave, the Gallenteans have plenty of it.

The Gallenteans are not alone in their Federation, whose boundaries are home to pockets of residents, varying in size and representing all the other races of EVE, most of whom left their own empires due to political or ideological differences, or simply in search of peace and prosperity. In addition to these there are two human races, the Intakis and the Mannars, both of whom the Gallenteans found while exploring and expanding their empire. Both were at a very primitive level when the Gallenteans found them, but since coming under the protection and guidance of the Gallenteans, both races have flourished and are today a full-fledged members of the Federation.

The Caldari were initially part of the Federation but deep-seated differences and mutual animosity between them and the Gallenteans drove them out to found their own empire. For a time, the two empires warred against each other, but as neither could gain sufficient advantage to claim victory, peace was settled in the end.



TLDR: they are the equivalent of America in a way and i am a proud american most days

I dunno if they even torture... I assume they were just practical and executed you.

Pretty much this. Caldari's butthurt because We're we're better than them, and Amarr is scared of us. We have better fighters, so they won't **** with the Federation. Reason why The State and Empire gets their ass handed to them in FW. All I can say is come at us

Its a shame they did to be honest. More bodies are needed on the front now.

All I know of them is what was on the character creation screen.
The Gallente seemed like the most technologically advanced without being imperialistic scum.
Caldaris feel/look like Master Chief wannabes.
Amarr would be far less numerous without Heavies.
Minmatar should be more beastly. More speed, stamina, heavy armor plating, etc.

I don't recall anything about all races being united by the color yellow.

the Avatar still beats the Minnie and Caldari Titans for aesthetics hands down.

fixed

Neither looks like fun.

Planetside 2 is a piece of crap, warframe is a 3rd person joke.

The only thing that does look good is Blacklight and that's only because it is what dust should be.

Hack n Slash style games really aren't my style.... but its mainly because its in 3rd person so the comparison between the two games is really invalidated since they are so vastly different....yes same genre, but not same type of game as entirely different styles are trying to be achieved.

Amarr for the sexy.
http://i.imgur.com/sUmwLWh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/xSxlftZ.png
Best looking proto logi suit and it comes with a sidearm.

It's not like its their fault. Typically you learn about a game's story by playing it.
No one would know about Evelopedia before downloading the game, and it doesn't really make sense to expect players to spend time reading pages about races in a game they haven't even played yet.
There's also nothing in Dust so far that would suggest it has a deep backstory, and the racial description never mentions anything about Gallentean freedom not always being what you think it would be. Or that it might sometimes have a downside.
To be quite honest, I'm surprised people even bothered to read the descriptions instead of choosing their favorite color or flipping a coin.

Agreed.... when the Amarr tanks come out Adamance won't be seeing the loving beam of that laser rifle..... he'll be madly cackling as be burn entire platoons away with a laser turret.

Amarr for the sexy.
http://i.imgur.com/sUmwLWh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/xSxlftZ.png
Best looking proto logi suit and it comes with a sidearm.

Gallente, because... they are streamlined.

For the ladies. (;



And am i the only one, who thinks that (with an eye on the concept art on Minmatar and Amarr vehicles) the current Gal und Cal vehicles are to similar?

Nice..... Im glad you aren't Intaki Liberation Front....

Crap.... I weep for my State Trooper Alts.....

I was sure they were out to kill our boys in blue.

Meh want to break the Gallente in two...that gonna be a problem for you?

Well it would be easier to say the main reason for not liking the other races.

Amarr- Religious zealot, slavers, I don't give a flying flip for people trying to be apologetic for the Amarr either.

Caldari- Even though I sympathize with them that is simply not the way I would want a society to work. I do admire their loyalty though.

Minmatar- I really don't have much of a complaint about the Minmatar besides that they base a lot of their actions based on emmotion rather than logic.

So I went with Gallente because of why everyone else went with them. I know that their citizens at least have a choice how to live their life...for the most part... They are they second largest empire but their military is voluntary, you aren't even forced to go to a military school with the Gallente. I'm aware of the ****** up **** Gallente have done (example, the Caldari incident) and the flaws in their society but I still see their society as decent and more in tune with my view.

None of these empires are the good guys but I believe it's safe to say that Amarr take the cake as general bad guys IMO.

It is also noteworthy to say that I'm not very Pro Federation but I'm more in tuned with Gallente Society and their ideals.

But you are only looking at this from the perspective of one racial history that has historical examples of some of these reasons... AKA your probably American...seems like everyone who plays this is.

However you cannot judge the races based upon how the people of our time view them. Since the Caldari and Amarr have developed the way they have the people of their nations all recognised their system of governance as the best.

No Amarrian would normally criticise the Amarrian system of governance, nor would they question is because they believe it to be the right way of doing things, same for the caldari, and minmatar.

The Amarrian aren't fanatics either they just have faith. Christians and Catholics aren't fanatics, they just have faith, like the amarr..... people like the Blood Raiders are fanatics.... read up on them they are incredibly scary.

Gallente - Their economy is held together by the drug market. A bunch of people trying to run a democracy without a clear head. Claim to be champions of freedom yet have a problem when a society peacefully exists with traditions not to their standard, even if everyone within that society is happy with their culture.

I would love to hear your argument as to why the Amarrians are the clear cut choice for the "bad guys" of New Eden. I will counter it and give reasons for the Gallente to be seen as the worst empire, and I am a proud American.

Congratulations, I believe I have already stated that I'm more in tuned with their ideals and not with their government or how things are ran and executed (as hinted several times within that post) I also put an IMO at the end as well.

I'm also aware of the Massacre of Cadarians (correct term?) at the hands of the Gallente (as I also hinted in the post).

I'd love to see your argument as to why you see the Amarr as your preferred empire/race/society what have you.

While it's true that one would not normally think against the only kind of life a person has known that does not mean that style is automatically justified or morale.

I'm pretty open to what people think is wrong and right and the area that a person grew up in is a main factor in how you will think.
However, the enslavement of innocent because the Amarrians saw them as lesser beings in the name of their god is pretty universally seen as "uncool" (at least by a lot of Earths Inhabitants I would think so).
Just because you have faith doesn't justify morally corrupt acts because you believe them to be good.
Last time I checked Christians weren't really cool with the idea of slavery anymore.

This.

However it must be said we have had a history of aggression, the more reformist supporters in the empire are gaining power and this looks set to change.

Also the Amarr do not spoil for combat like the Minmatar do. The general amarrian is relatively sad when they would consider the prospect of war and violence however they do understand it as a means to an end, and would only engage in it because they believe they have the divine right to unite this galaxy.

I certainly hope CCP plans to take Amarr further along the road to reform, its always seemed like CCP hates Amarr and considering the scifi crowds hatred of religion and its liberal leanings Amarr was never made to be popular.

I would love to see the amarrian faction do a backflip on slavery and become more about enlightenment and religion, atleast then it would be only half as abhorrent in the eyes of the average scifi loving gamer :D

I think she means that the Amarr themselves aren't generally liked as a people, their equipment is one thing but liking them as a faction is much harder.

Nor is democracy a justified form of living.

But I see what you are saying.

But how can you say you honestly support a system that actively seeks to weed out the weakest members of society, and then establish a class systems while preaching against it.....

PIE kind of is the RP forum.... not to sound too arrogant.....

Either way my question to you guys is if you have a preferred Faction in Dust/EVE/ New Eden what is it and why do you support it?

ILF's interests are to protect the Intaki Assembly territory, mainly the Placid region in New Eden and provide support for the Intaki planets in terms of food, supplies and medicine. ILF has no interest in FW battles, so your Caldari alts should be safe unless they decide to attack Placid region planets, when they get opened up for PC.

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Of course, the Amarr Empire has had some faulty leadership in the past, but which society hasn't?


I would quit Dust if this happened. There is nothing in the lore to believe such a reform is even a remote possibility, but to do it anyways simply because a few fans have a problem with them would be ridiculous.

Also you say Amarr isn't popular, yet I always see them everywhere in the warbarge and in game, plus at the Intergalactic Summit here I see tons of Amarr on these forums. I would love to see some graphs regarding to what percent of the player base is what race.

So I always wondered why the player base of this game supports the factions they do.

If anyone has ever seen my posts they will know I'm an Amarr Loyalist, and preach the word where and whenever I can to those unenlightened amongst you, also I'm a bit of a Caldari Fan as well, an have two toons that are both Caldari Loyalists as well, on training for scout suits, and the other hopefull going to run into Heavy or Commando.

Either way my question to you guys is if you have a preferred Faction in Dust/EVE/ New Eden what is it and why do you support it?

Why do you assume the Amarr are zombies... just asking. I know the Amarr are religious but religion doesn't imply manipulations or coercion of the people too believe. They just do.