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Cat Merc
Oculus Felis
1839
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Posted - 2013.07.07 07:17:00 -
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Give Gallente suits inherent 5hp/s regen. And no, I don't mean in a skill, I mean like the minnie suits that get 1hp/s. We don't need to make low level armor tanking even worse than it is compared to proto. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
2146
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Posted - 2013.07.07 07:20:00 -
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Gallente suit is fine, everything is fine |
Cat Merc
Oculus Felis
1839
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Posted - 2013.07.07 07:21:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Gallente suit is fine, everything is fine Shut up, you're a sloth, your intellect doesn't even begin to comprehend my cat intellect. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
316
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Posted - 2013.07.07 07:47:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Give Gallente suits inherent 5hp/s regen. And no, I don't mean in a skill, I mean like the minnie suits that get 1hp/s. We don't need to make low level armor tanking even worse than it is compared to proto. Hey hey don't get all gallente supremacist on me you are fighting for all armour tanking kind here. AMARR ARENT ******* SHIELD TANKERS WE DONT NEED SHIELD EFFICIENCY BOOSTS! |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
797
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Posted - 2013.07.07 08:14:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:Gallente suit is fine, everything is fine Shut up, you're a sloth, your intellect doesn't even begin to comprehend my cat intellect.
You two stop fighting and let a species with opposable thumbs figure this out |
Cat Merc
Oculus Felis
1843
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Posted - 2013.07.07 08:16:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Give Gallente suits inherent 5hp/s regen. And no, I don't mean in a skill, I mean like the minnie suits that get 1hp/s. We don't need to make low level armor tanking even worse than it is compared to proto. Hey hey don't get all gallente supremacist on me you are fighting for all armour tanking kind here. AMARR ARENT ******* SHIELD TANKERS WE DONT NEED SHIELD EFFICIENCY BOOSTS! Aren't you both? |
Mechoj Nomreps
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
28
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Posted - 2013.07.07 09:11:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Give Gallente suits inherent 5hp/s regen. And no, I don't mean in a skill, I mean like the minnie suits that get 1hp/s. We don't need to make low level armor tanking even worse than it is compared to proto.
So you have one more low slot free for armor plates? Seems a bit unbalanced to me. But when looking at the cal logi I see where you are comming from. Any good ideas how to buf minmatar and amar suits? |
Cat Merc
Oculus Felis
1848
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Posted - 2013.07.07 09:14:00 -
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Mechoj Nomreps wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Give Gallente suits inherent 5hp/s regen. And no, I don't mean in a skill, I mean like the minnie suits that get 1hp/s. We don't need to make low level armor tanking even worse than it is compared to proto. So you have one more low slot free for armor plates? Seems a bit unbalanced to me. But when looking at the cal logi I see where you are comming from. Any good ideas how to buf minmatar and amar suits? Caldari assault. You have no idea do you? https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=87752&find=unread |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
318
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Posted - 2013.07.07 09:17:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:True Adamance wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Give Gallente suits inherent 5hp/s regen. And no, I don't mean in a skill, I mean like the minnie suits that get 1hp/s. We don't need to make low level armor tanking even worse than it is compared to proto. Hey hey don't get all gallente supremacist on me you are fighting for all armour tanking kind here. AMARR ARENT ******* SHIELD TANKERS WE DONT NEED SHIELD EFFICIENCY BOOSTS! Aren't you both? Nope Amarrian purely armour tank infact we are the pure armour tankers of the game.
However I think in general we tend to go for passive while gallenteans active armour tanking. |
Cosgar
ParagonX
2256
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Posted - 2013.07.07 09:19:00 -
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Mechoj Nomreps wrote:So you have one more low slot free for armor plates? Seems a bit unbalanced to me. But when looking at the cal logi I see where you are comming from. Any good ideas how to buf minmatar and amar suits? Give Minmatar an efficiency bonus to biotics modules and Amarr a bonus that reduces the movement penalty on armor plates. |
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Mechoj Nomreps
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
28
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Posted - 2013.07.07 09:25:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Mechoj Nomreps wrote:So you have one more low slot free for armor plates? Seems a bit unbalanced to me. But when looking at the cal logi I see where you are comming from. Any good ideas how to buf minmatar and amar suits? Give Minmatar an efficiency bonus to biotics modules and Amarr a bonus that reduces the movement penalty on armor plates.
I could live with that actually |
Mechoj Nomreps
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
28
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Posted - 2013.07.07 09:27:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Mechoj Nomreps wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Give Gallente suits inherent 5hp/s regen. And no, I don't mean in a skill, I mean like the minnie suits that get 1hp/s. We don't need to make low level armor tanking even worse than it is compared to proto. So you have one more low slot free for armor plates? Seems a bit unbalanced to me. But when looking at the cal logi I see where you are comming from. Any good ideas how to buf minmatar and amar suits? Caldari assault. You have no idea do you? https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=87752&find=unread
I meant that if you want to balance a bit by buffing other suits in stead of nerfing the cladari suits. I am a armor tanked minmatar logi myself I know the frustration especially when they start spamming grenades. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
2148
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Posted - 2013.07.07 09:28:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:Gallente suit is fine, everything is fine Shut up, you're a sloth, your intellect doesn't even begin to comprehend my cat intellect. You two stop fighting and let a species with opposable thumbs figure this out You monkeys got us in this mess in the first place! |
Cat Merc
Oculus Felis
1848
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Posted - 2013.07.07 09:28:00 -
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Mechoj Nomreps wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Mechoj Nomreps wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Give Gallente suits inherent 5hp/s regen. And no, I don't mean in a skill, I mean like the minnie suits that get 1hp/s. We don't need to make low level armor tanking even worse than it is compared to proto. So you have one more low slot free for armor plates? Seems a bit unbalanced to me. But when looking at the cal logi I see where you are comming from. Any good ideas how to buf minmatar and amar suits? Caldari assault. You have no idea do you? https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=87752&find=unread I meant that if you want to balance a bit by buffing other suits in stead of nerfing the cladari suits. I am a armor tanked minmatar logi myself I know the frustration especially when they start spamming grenades. >Minmatar logi >Armor tank
What in the world... Minmatar are like the opposite of armor tanking in this game O_o |
Mechoj Nomreps
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
28
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Posted - 2013.07.07 09:39:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Mechoj Nomreps wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Mechoj Nomreps wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Give Gallente suits inherent 5hp/s regen. And no, I don't mean in a skill, I mean like the minnie suits that get 1hp/s. We don't need to make low level armor tanking even worse than it is compared to proto. So you have one more low slot free for armor plates? Seems a bit unbalanced to me. But when looking at the cal logi I see where you are comming from. Any good ideas how to buf minmatar and amar suits? Caldari assault. You have no idea do you? https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=87752&find=unread I meant that if you want to balance a bit by buffing other suits in stead of nerfing the cladari suits. I am a armor tanked minmatar logi myself I know the frustration especially when they start spamming grenades. >Minmatar logi >Armor tank What in the world... Minmatar are like the opposite of armor tanking in this game O_o
Well it works for me, as a logi I have better regenaration and with a repairer added I do quite well. on mmy proto I also use two complex shield extenders but my sever and advanced only have damage mods in the highs.
As mimnatar logi the starting walking and sprint speed is also a bit better. which I can hide fast behind the heavy I am supporting when my armor is a bit down.
My advanced scout is something else obviously. |
Cosgar
ParagonX
2257
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Posted - 2013.07.07 09:41:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote: >Minmatar logi >Armor tank
What in the world... Minmatar are like the opposite of armor tanking in this game O_o
Minmatar Scout = Stabber Minmatar Assault = Jaguar Minmatar Logi =Scimitar |
Viktor Skirov
Heag Enterprises
12
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Posted - 2013.07.07 14:52:00 -
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Hey Kitty cat, what do you think if CCP give us a passive HP regen of 5 per level?! PER FRAME!! And if you skill in Gallente scout + basic + Basic medium + Assault + Logistic (Logis 10 per level ) and end up with a regen of 150 armor per second! (Gallentean suits only... Amarrians can have half of the regeneration)
A want mah op suit ...
Or maybe stolen Caldarian space weed, that will do. |
Cat Merc
Oculus Felis
1854
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Posted - 2013.07.07 15:00:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:Gallente suit is fine, everything is fine Shut up, you're a sloth, your intellect doesn't even begin to comprehend my cat intellect. You two stop fighting and let a species with opposable thumbs figure this out You monkeys got us in this mess in the first place! Yeah! Those CCP monkeys! |
Knightshade Belladonna
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
402
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Posted - 2013.07.07 15:11:00 -
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For assault? The logi already has this |
Oso Peresoso
RisingSuns
146
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Posted - 2013.07.07 15:13:00 -
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Knightshade Belladonna wrote:For assault? The logi already has this
This really. |
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Severance Pay
Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic
551
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Posted - 2013.07.07 15:16:00 -
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Mmmm cat tears. Tasty, I recommend them to the tear connoiseur |
JETSTORM1090
Against All Oddz
102
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Posted - 2013.07.07 18:08:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Give Gallente suits inherent 5hp/s regen. And no, I don't mean in a skill, I mean like the minnie suits that get 1hp/s. We don't need to make low level armor tanking even worse than it is compared to proto. I wouldn't mind this, every other assault suit has higher shield regeneration and shield, gallente has less shield and shield regeneration for just a little bit more armor, why should we trade of 2 good things for just 1 good thing... |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax. CRONOS.
2219
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Posted - 2013.07.07 18:15:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Give Gallente suits inherent 5hp/s regen. And no, I don't mean in a skill, I mean like the minnie suits that get 1hp/s. We don't need to make low level armor tanking even worse than it is compared to proto. Better than that, give a per-level bonus to the repair rate of Armor Repairers and Reactive Plates, and fix the damn penalties on the plates.
It keeps the focus on fitting rather than just bonuses, and still makes Gallente suits more effective.
The way I see it, defensive bonuses should be as follows:
Amarr: Armor Buffer Caldari: Shield Buffer Gallente: Armor "Active" tank (fast repair rates so they can recover from fights faster) Minmatar: Speed and Shield Recharge |
Dynnen Vvardenfell
187. League of Infamy
8
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Posted - 2013.07.07 18:32:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Give Gallente suits inherent 5hp/s regen. And no, I don't mean in a skill, I mean like the minnie suits that get 1hp/s. We don't need to make low level armor tanking even worse than it is compared to proto. Better than that, give a per-level bonus to the repair rate of Armor Repairers and Reactive Plates, and fix the damn penalties on the plates. It keeps the focus on fitting rather than just bonuses, and still makes Gallente suits more effective. The way I see it, defensive bonuses should be as follows: Amarr: Armor Buffer Caldari: Shield Buffer Gallente: Armor "Active" tank (fast repair rates so they can recover from fights faster) Minmatar: Speed and Shield Recharge With Gallente suits having a bonus to repair rates, and repair not suffering from stun effects like shields do, you end up being able to use the suits kind of like the ships in EVE of the same race. Rush in fast, beat the **** out of your enemy with your short-range high-damage weapons, and then rapidly rep your armor back up for the next fight.
How DARE you bring good suggestions to these forums! |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax. CRONOS.
2223
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Posted - 2013.07.07 18:52:00 -
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Dynnen Vvardenfell wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Give Gallente suits inherent 5hp/s regen. And no, I don't mean in a skill, I mean like the minnie suits that get 1hp/s. We don't need to make low level armor tanking even worse than it is compared to proto. Better than that, give a per-level bonus to the repair rate of Armor Repairers and Reactive Plates, and fix the damn penalties on the plates. It keeps the focus on fitting rather than just bonuses, and still makes Gallente suits more effective. The way I see it, defensive bonuses should be as follows: Amarr: Armor Buffer Caldari: Shield Buffer Gallente: Armor "Active" tank (fast repair rates so they can recover from fights faster) Minmatar: Speed and Shield Recharge With Gallente suits having a bonus to repair rates, and repair not suffering from stun effects like shields do, you end up being able to use the suits kind of like the ships in EVE of the same race. Rush in fast, beat the **** out of your enemy with your short-range high-damage weapons, and then rapidly rep your armor back up for the next fight. How DARE you bring good suggestions to these forums! I may be fighting a losing battle, but I'm known for my stubbornness. |
calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F
430
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Posted - 2013.07.07 18:56:00 -
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I have both shield tanking and armor tanking skills maxed out.
I don't care which is better I will simply use which is better. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
324
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Posted - 2013.07.07 22:29:00 -
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Mechoj Nomreps wrote:Cosgar wrote:Mechoj Nomreps wrote:So you have one more low slot free for armor plates? Seems a bit unbalanced to me. But when looking at the cal logi I see where you are comming from. Any good ideas how to buf minmatar and amar suits? Give Minmatar an efficiency bonus to biotics modules and Amarr a bonus that reduces the movement penalty on armor plates. I could live with that actually I couldn't that's the crappest bonus ever |
BL4CKST4R
WarRavens League of Infamy
436
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Posted - 2013.07.07 22:43:00 -
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All armor suits deserve an inherent armor repair, by not having armor repair we are forced to lose 1 slot, and even then 5HP/s is super low, as a Gallente Logistics I have to always carry one repairer or I fear I will be destroyed. So I think maybe 7-10 for assault suits, and 12-15 (This is with the 5Hp/s for logi suits) for logistics suits, and none for the Caldari and Winmatar. This would give armor suits a 60-115 boost in EHP since using a repairer would be a choice, not a requirement. Shield suit aren't required to use regulators, so armor suits shouldn't be required to use repairers. Oh but you guys get repair tools ble ble ble, yeah because soooo many people run around with repair tools actually giving a rat's ass if you live or die.
Although giving us a passive repair bonus makes the Armor repair systems skill useless for some of us... |
KA24DERT
Not Guilty EoN.
68
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Posted - 2013.07.07 22:43:00 -
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Yeah, I think an armor rep bonus would be more useful for the assault gallente suit than the current shield bonus. What am I going to do with a shield bonus on an armor suit? |
BL4CKST4R
WarRavens League of Infamy
436
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Posted - 2013.07.07 22:46:00 -
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KA24DERT wrote:Yeah, I think an armor rep bonus would be more useful for the assault gallente suit than the current shield bonus. What am I going to do with a shield bonus on an armor suit?
Die faster. |
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