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Asher Night
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
209
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Posted - 2013.07.07 06:26:00 -
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I think anyone who complains about having a hard time as a heavy at the pinnacle of "talentless scrubbery".
You already have super health. You move much faster now compared to scouts since the recent update (believe me, as a scout that can no longer run away from that 'body blender' called the HMG - I know) You have basically an instant kill weapon. PG and CPU out the wazoo. Turning speed being low does not matter, if you can hit the enemy for even half a second they'll die. I have tried many times and absolutely cannot run around a heavy as it turns, so stop whining about the slow turn speed. It isn't that slow.
Anyone who complains the HMG is UP just wants even more of this game to bend to their whim. If you play it the way it's supposed to be played (defense), then it does amazing. Right now, I'm a scout and can't even run away from all these HMGs that chase me down across the map. It's ridiculous how far I have to run before I actually get around enough corners to make a heavy stop following me.
So shut and get the FUHK out da way! You\'re fine! The scout needs some attention. |
hackerzilla
Defenders of the Helghast Dream
29
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Posted - 2013.07.07 06:29:00 -
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+1 but the scout is fine btw no buffing needed |
Rogatien Merc
Ill Omens EoN.
288
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Posted - 2013.07.07 06:31:00 -
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+1 and +1 your +1...
someone +1 my +1 and we shall go all pyramid scheme up in here. ground floor baby!!! |
Bazookah Tooth
The Phoenix Federation
13
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Posted - 2013.07.07 06:31:00 -
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AW did my big bad heavy pinch a nerve?
Just cause you ran into some good heavies and hmg users doesn't mean That its not still broken.
And the only heavys chasing you are the ones like me who have lvl 5 biotics And are using kinetic catalzer, therefore less hp making your point less valid.
Heavys have no new weapon and the same crap suit. HTFU with your three race scout suits And stop running into my hmg or I will mow your paper m+óch+¬ suit down
hmg for life -bazookah |
Asher Night
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
212
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Posted - 2013.07.07 06:33:00 -
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hackerzilla wrote:+1 but the scout is fine btw no buffing needed
You play as a scout? Since the update, the only advantage we had compared to any other suit was our speed and running. Now we don't even have that. |
Disturbingly Bored
The Strontium Asylum
396
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Posted - 2013.07.07 06:33:00 -
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Everything in game for Heavy is balanced. (Jury still out on Commando.)
It's the huge pile of promised-and-never-delivered things that aren't in the game that we complain about. One race and two weapons since the beginning of closed beta is getting old.
I agree that whining about Amarr Heavy Frame, HMG, or Forge Gun is scrubbery, though. |
Asher Night
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
212
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Posted - 2013.07.07 06:38:00 -
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Bazookah Tooth wrote:AW did my big bad heavy pinch a nerve?
Just cause you ran into some good heavies and hmg users doesn't mean That its not still broken.
And the only heavys chasing you are the ones like me who have lvl 5 biotics And are using kinetic catalzer, therefore less hp making your point less valid.
Heavys have no new weapon and the same crap suit. HTFU with your three race scout suits And stop running into my hmg or I will mow your paper m+óch+¬ suit down
hmg for life -bazookah
RRRAAAAHH!!!!!!!
I'M SO MAD NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You're crap is fine, if you actually think it's broken then you suck at lifeand at Dust. I bet you suck at every other FPS as well.
CCP stop catering to talentless crybabies like this. Don't listen to anyone who can't hold their own at gun game like him. |
Cat Merc
Oculus Felis
1838
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Posted - 2013.07.07 06:39:00 -
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Heavy is fine. Seriously, 1000 base eHP and they're complaining? Do they want to be invincible? ... Wait... |
FATPrincess - XOXO
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
84
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Posted - 2013.07.07 06:39:00 -
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Cause of no respecs. I don't want to be a fatty anymore.
-XOXO |
Cat Merc
Oculus Felis
1838
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Posted - 2013.07.07 06:40:00 -
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FATPrincess - XOXO wrote:Cause of no respecs. I don't want to be a fatty anymore.
-XOXO Fat princess doesn't want to be fat anymore? |
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FATPrincess - XOXO
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
84
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Posted - 2013.07.07 06:45:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:FATPrincess - XOXO wrote:Cause of no respecs. I don't want to be a fatty anymore.
-XOXO Fat princess doesn't want to be fat anymore?
No
-XOXO |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
795
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Posted - 2013.07.07 06:47:00 -
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Disturbingly Bored wrote:Everything in game for Heavy is balanced. (Jury still out on Commando.) It's the huge pile of promised-and-never-delivered things that aren't in the game that we complain about. One race and two weapons since the beginning of closed beta is getting old. I agree that whining about Amarr Heavy Frame, HMG, or Forge Gun is scrubbery, though.
Commando is fine, its just a massive SP drain to get the most out of it |
KripnawtiQ Prime
L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION
252
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Posted - 2013.07.07 06:49:00 -
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Disturbingly Bored wrote:Everything in game for Heavy is balanced. (Jury still out on Commando.) It's the huge pile of promised-and-never-delivered things that aren't in the game that we complain about. One race and two weapons since the beginning of closed beta is getting old. I agree that whining about Amarr Heavy Frame, HMG, or Forge Gun is scrubbery, though.
This. Not everybody that runs the fat class complains about it all the time. |
Reign Omega
Quafe Runners
28
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Posted - 2013.07.07 06:49:00 -
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FATPrincess - XOXO wrote:Cat Merc wrote:FATPrincess - XOXO wrote:Cause of no respecs. I don't want to be a fatty anymore.
-XOXO Fat princess doesn't want to be fat anymore? No -XOXO
Diet and exercise........ |
GRIM GEAR
The Enclave Syndicate Dark Taboo
3
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Posted - 2013.07.07 06:50:00 -
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Scouts suck against anything and everything; and proto scout suits r just a waste of sp and isk end of story the end........... |
Michael Arck
sephiroth clones General Tso's Alliance
102
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Posted - 2013.07.07 07:02:00 -
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Asher Night wrote:I think anyone who complains about having a hard time as a heavy is at the pinnacle of "talentless scrubbery".
*You already have super health. *You move much faster now compared to scouts since the recent update (believe me, as a scout that can no longer run away from that 'body blender' called the HMG - I know) *You have basically an instant kill weapon. *PG and CPU out the wazoo. *Turning speed being low does not matter, if you can hit the enemy for even half a second they'll die. I have tried many times and absolutely cannot run around a heavy as it turns, so stop whining about the slow turn speed. It isn't that slow.
Anyone who complains the HMG is UP just wants even more of this game to bend to their whim. If you play it the way it's supposed to be played (defense), then it does amazing. Heavies keep whining about their slow speed but you AREN'T SUPPOSE TO BE RUNNING EVERYWHERE. You are supposed to guard one general area - hence the term "sentinel". Right now, I'm a scout and can't even run away from all these HMGs that chase me down across the map. It's ridiculous how far I have to run before I actually get around enough corners to make a heavy stop following me.
So shut and get the FUHK out da way! You're fine! The scout needs some attention.
You have no sense of tactic. How its supposed to be played is this: Heavies take point. Assault, since they are more agile, should be the moppers. They can also be considered spotters, as well Scouts. There are two tanks. The ones that dropships deliver and heavies. You follow beside a tank don't you for cover, right? Heavies should be pushing the line while confident they can do that because a Logi is nearby. The assault guys should be flanking heavies and paying attention to what they fire at. Then you have the Scouts, who should be a little bit more free in roaming because the opposing team is so caught up with the heavies and the assaults.
A heavy shouldn't be standing in one section guarding an area. That's nonsense when the enemy will adapt and go elsewhere to find (wait for it, wait for it) Scouts who are running around sneaking and Logis who feel that they should be followed. And if the team is even a little organized, they wear down those guys, depleting clone reserves. By the time heavies move up to help out, its too late. They are too slow to catch up with the main battle.
So really, I feel alot of you guys don't understand the tactical. Scouts need attention? You are a scout. A scout is given minimal means because of his infiltration aspects. Logis have shotguns but who is afraid of that when you got the other team running with their assaults and heavies looking to mop you up?
This is what I mean, people are not understanding the true nature of their roles. Or better yet, they don't use these roles effectively in combat. |
Asher Night
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
213
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Posted - 2013.07.07 07:08:00 -
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GRIM GEAR wrote:Scouts suck against anything and everything; and proto scout suits r just a waste of sp and isk end of story the end...........
I agree for the most part. The only reason it's not a complete waste is I can't imagine myself playing as anything else. I always play the stealth/ninja-esque character and wouldn't play the game if it wasn't available. In many games that have a "light armor", picking it is like picking "hard mode" because you usually die faster, and I'm okay with that. But this game requires way more effort to make the scout work than is reasonable. |
Cat Merc
Oculus Felis
1838
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Posted - 2013.07.07 07:10:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Asher Night wrote:I think anyone who complains about having a hard time as a heavy is at the pinnacle of "talentless scrubbery".
*You already have super health. *You move much faster now compared to scouts since the recent update (believe me, as a scout that can no longer run away from that 'body blender' called the HMG - I know) *You have basically an instant kill weapon. *PG and CPU out the wazoo. *Turning speed being low does not matter, if you can hit the enemy for even half a second they'll die. I have tried many times and absolutely cannot run around a heavy as it turns, so stop whining about the slow turn speed. It isn't that slow.
Anyone who complains the HMG is UP just wants even more of this game to bend to their whim. If you play it the way it's supposed to be played (defense), then it does amazing. Heavies keep whining about their slow speed but you AREN'T SUPPOSE TO BE RUNNING EVERYWHERE. You are supposed to guard one general area - hence the term "sentinel". Right now, I'm a scout and can't even run away from all these HMGs that chase me down across the map. It's ridiculous how far I have to run before I actually get around enough corners to make a heavy stop following me.
So shut and get the FUHK out da way! You're fine! The scout needs some attention. You have no sense of tactic. How its supposed to be played is this: Heavies take point. Assault, since they are more agile, should be the moppers. They can also be considered spotters, as well Scouts. There are two tanks. The ones that dropships deliver and heavies. You follow beside a tank don't you for cover, right? Heavies should be pushing the line while confident they can do that because a Logi is nearby. The assault guys should be flanking heavies and paying attention to what they fire at. Then you have the Scouts, who should be a little bit more free in roaming because the opposing team is so caught up with the heavies and the assaults. A heavy shouldn't be standing in one section guarding an area. That's nonsense when the enemy will adapt and go elsewhere to find (wait for it, wait for it) Scouts who are running around sneaking and Logis who feel that they should be followed. And if the team is even a little organized, they wear down those guys, depleting clone reserves. By the time heavies move up to help out, its too late. They are too slow to catch up with the main battle. So really, I feel alot of you guys don't understand the tactical. Scouts need attention? You are a scout. A scout is given minimal means because of his infiltration aspects. Logis have shotguns but who is afraid of that when you got the other team running with their assaults and heavies looking to mop you up? This is what I mean, people are not understanding the true nature of their roles. Or better yet, they don't use these roles effectively in combat. By your definition, heavies should be the ultimate suit and the rest should be his little helpers? >_> |
Asher Night
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
213
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Posted - 2013.07.07 07:15:00 -
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By your definition, heavies should be the ultimate suit and the rest should be his little helpers? >_>[/quote]
Yeah, what a bozo, am I right?
"Oh please, great and powerful Heavy! Please tell me how I can do exactly what you want and make your game funner and easier!"
Pfffbfbfbfbt! |
hooc order
Deep Space Republic Top Men.
463
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Posted - 2013.07.07 07:20:00 -
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Quote:If heavies have it so hard, why do I see them all the time?
i think it is an end game thing.
Basically in PC there are not very viable.
Or at least the 1% of the 10% that use heavies for PC say it isn't....it is a high possibility that those players have been carried so long they don't actually know how to play the class so it is viable in PC. |
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Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
2146
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Posted - 2013.07.07 07:23:00 -
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To my knowledge, aside from the LACK OF CONTENT, most heavy QQ was done after the HMG got nerfed (Cat Merc is an idiot btw) and it also stopped once the HMG got buffed, so what heavies are QQing again? I certainly don't see them. |
Michael Arck
sephiroth clones General Tso's Alliance
102
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Posted - 2013.07.07 07:23:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Asher Night wrote:I think anyone who complains about having a hard time as a heavy is at the pinnacle of "talentless scrubbery".
*You already have super health. *You move much faster now compared to scouts since the recent update (believe me, as a scout that can no longer run away from that 'body blender' called the HMG - I know) *You have basically an instant kill weapon. *PG and CPU out the wazoo. *Turning speed being low does not matter, if you can hit the enemy for even half a second they'll die. I have tried many times and absolutely cannot run around a heavy as it turns, so stop whining about the slow turn speed. It isn't that slow.
Anyone who complains the HMG is UP just wants even more of this game to bend to their whim. If you play it the way it's supposed to be played (defense), then it does amazing. Heavies keep whining about their slow speed but you AREN'T SUPPOSE TO BE RUNNING EVERYWHERE. You are supposed to guard one general area - hence the term "sentinel". Right now, I'm a scout and can't even run away from all these HMGs that chase me down across the map. It's ridiculous how far I have to run before I actually get around enough corners to make a heavy stop following me.
So shut and get the FUHK out da way! You're fine! The scout needs some attention. You have no sense of tactic. How its supposed to be played is this: Heavies take point. Assault, since they are more agile, should be the moppers. They can also be considered spotters, as well Scouts. There are two tanks. The ones that dropships deliver and heavies. You follow beside a tank don't you for cover, right? Heavies should be pushing the line while confident they can do that because a Logi is nearby. The assault guys should be flanking heavies and paying attention to what they fire at. Then you have the Scouts, who should be a little bit more free in roaming because the opposing team is so caught up with the heavies and the assaults. A heavy shouldn't be standing in one section guarding an area. That's nonsense when the enemy will adapt and go elsewhere to find (wait for it, wait for it) Scouts who are running around sneaking and Logis who feel that they should be followed. And if the team is even a little organized, they wear down those guys, depleting clone reserves. By the time heavies move up to help out, its too late. They are too slow to catch up with the main battle. So really, I feel alot of you guys don't understand the tactical. Scouts need attention? You are a scout. A scout is given minimal means because of his infiltration aspects. Logis have shotguns but who is afraid of that when you got the other team running with their assaults and heavies looking to mop you up? This is what I mean, people are not understanding the true nature of their roles. Or better yet, they don't use these roles effectively in combat. By your definition, heavies should be the ultimate suit and the rest should be his little helpers? >_>
You didn't read my post. If you did, you didn't read it objectively, which hampers your comprehension of what I am suggesting. Heavies are not the ultimate but they are walking tanks. I don't know about you, but I like stick with my heavies when I have my assault suit on
I understand that they have good armor. I understand their HMG is powerful. I also know they are very slow. I also know that when a heavy ADS, so to speak, he is extremely vulnerable to other attacks. I know if a team has concentrated efforts, that heavy really doesn't mean squat when they stumble upon him.
If I see a heavy firing on opponents, I quickly try to flank to the left or right sides to lay down some direct fire.
Is it that hard to comprehend? I'm not saying heavies are the heros. I am saying that heavies are not used properly because mercs like you think its turning into "I am Heavy, you are puny" or "what about me?" type of thing. Which it is not. Majority of folks don't utilize the roles properly.
I don't see why someone wouldn't want to play battle buddy with a fit that is built to withstand more pressures than they're own suit. |
Cat Merc
Oculus Felis
1840
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Posted - 2013.07.07 07:35:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:To my knowledge, aside from the LACK OF CONTENT, most heavy QQ was done after the HMG got nerfed (Cat Merc is an idiot btw) and it also stopped once the HMG got buffed, so what heavies are QQing again? I certainly don't see them. Heavies are QQ'ing everyday. Are we on the same forum? |
Cat Merc
Oculus Felis
1840
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Posted - 2013.07.07 07:36:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Asher Night wrote:I think anyone who complains about having a hard time as a heavy is at the pinnacle of "talentless scrubbery".
*You already have super health. *You move much faster now compared to scouts since the recent update (believe me, as a scout that can no longer run away from that 'body blender' called the HMG - I know) *You have basically an instant kill weapon. *PG and CPU out the wazoo. *Turning speed being low does not matter, if you can hit the enemy for even half a second they'll die. I have tried many times and absolutely cannot run around a heavy as it turns, so stop whining about the slow turn speed. It isn't that slow.
Anyone who complains the HMG is UP just wants even more of this game to bend to their whim. If you play it the way it's supposed to be played (defense), then it does amazing. Heavies keep whining about their slow speed but you AREN'T SUPPOSE TO BE RUNNING EVERYWHERE. You are supposed to guard one general area - hence the term "sentinel". Right now, I'm a scout and can't even run away from all these HMGs that chase me down across the map. It's ridiculous how far I have to run before I actually get around enough corners to make a heavy stop following me.
So shut and get the FUHK out da way! You're fine! The scout needs some attention. You have no sense of tactic. How its supposed to be played is this: Heavies take point. Assault, since they are more agile, should be the moppers. They can also be considered spotters, as well Scouts. There are two tanks. The ones that dropships deliver and heavies. You follow beside a tank don't you for cover, right? Heavies should be pushing the line while confident they can do that because a Logi is nearby. The assault guys should be flanking heavies and paying attention to what they fire at. Then you have the Scouts, who should be a little bit more free in roaming because the opposing team is so caught up with the heavies and the assaults. A heavy shouldn't be standing in one section guarding an area. That's nonsense when the enemy will adapt and go elsewhere to find (wait for it, wait for it) Scouts who are running around sneaking and Logis who feel that they should be followed. And if the team is even a little organized, they wear down those guys, depleting clone reserves. By the time heavies move up to help out, its too late. They are too slow to catch up with the main battle. So really, I feel alot of you guys don't understand the tactical. Scouts need attention? You are a scout. A scout is given minimal means because of his infiltration aspects. Logis have shotguns but who is afraid of that when you got the other team running with their assaults and heavies looking to mop you up? This is what I mean, people are not understanding the true nature of their roles. Or better yet, they don't use these roles effectively in combat. By your definition, heavies should be the ultimate suit and the rest should be his little helpers? >_> You didn't read my post. If you did, you didn't read it objectively, which hampers your comprehension of what I am suggesting. Heavies are not the ultimate but they are walking tanks. I don't know about you, but I like stick with my heavies when I have my assault suit on I understand that they have good armor. I understand their HMG is powerful. I also know they are very slow. I also know that when a heavy ADS, so to speak, he is extremely vulnerable to other attacks. I know if a team has concentrated efforts, that heavy really doesn't mean squat when they stumble upon him. If I see a heavy firing on opponents, I quickly try to flank to the left or right sides to lay down some direct fire. Is it that hard to comprehend? I'm not saying heavies are the heros. I am saying that heavies are not used properly because mercs like you think its turning into "I am Heavy, you are puny" or "what about me?" type of thing. Which it is not. Majority of folks don't utilize the roles properly. I don't see why someone wouldn't want to play battle buddy with a fit that is built to withstand more pressures than they're own suit. That's exactly what I do. I stick with my heavies. |
Asher Night
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
215
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Posted - 2013.07.07 07:36:00 -
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hackerzilla wrote:+1 but the scout is fine btw no buffing needed
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1009985#post1009985
No, even the devs have noticed something is up. Something needs to be done. With scouts, not heavies. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
2146
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Posted - 2013.07.07 07:37:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:To my knowledge, aside from the LACK OF CONTENT, most heavy QQ was done after the HMG got nerfed (Cat Merc is an idiot btw) and it also stopped once the HMG got buffed, so what heavies are QQing again? I certainly don't see them. Heavies are QQ'ing everyday. Are we on the same forum? Prove it. The threads asking for the other racial suits don't count, commandos also don't count since they're pretty much assaults. C'mon, show us all the sentinel QQ |
Cat Merc
Oculus Felis
1840
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Posted - 2013.07.07 07:46:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:To my knowledge, aside from the LACK OF CONTENT, most heavy QQ was done after the HMG got nerfed (Cat Merc is an idiot btw) and it also stopped once the HMG got buffed, so what heavies are QQing again? I certainly don't see them. Heavies are QQ'ing everyday. Are we on the same forum? Prove it. The threads asking for the other racial suits don't count, commandos also don't count since they're pretty much assaults. C'mon, show us all the sentinel QQ https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=91063&find=unread https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=87840&find=unread https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=81725&find=unread
Two first pages on Feedback/Requests. That took me exactly 20 seconds to find. |
Asher Night
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
217
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Posted - 2013.07.07 07:52:00 -
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OHHHH!!!!!!
Check and mate. All you fatties need to lose some weight or understand what it means to be fat. You may have your own gravitational pull, but this world doesn't revolve around you. |
Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
387
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Posted - 2013.07.07 07:57:00 -
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Heavy is fine it's hour weapons that are absolutely crap.
Scouts on the other hand...... |
Rusty Shallows
Black Jackals
115
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Posted - 2013.07.07 08:05:00 -
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What kind of person goes out of his way to rant about a different suit calling others whiners and then whines about his?
People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. |
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