From IronWolfSaber on IRC:

GG Heavies - we cost too much for them to care about.

Question. Is he not just saying that investing in place holders would take the same resources that are working on actual content that won't have to be redone?

As for why heavies and scouts are currently suffering... it seems like a self-reinforcing problem. There aren't enough of us to focus that much dev effort on them right now and hence they get used less.

The only thing they would need to re-do would be the models... *Snip and replace*

Maybe they are still focused on game mechanics?

blah blah blah.....
As for placeholders, when recolored by their specializations and supposive race they're belonging too you're going to wind up with a bunch of guys looking the same on the battlefield and decisions you're making is getting you killed because you thought you saw the wrong shade of blue or green on a gallente sentinel and threw a flux grenade expecting a caldari heavy instead of something more appropriate and the time you just wasted got you killed in that engagement.

Blah blah.....

Poor Heavies, you definately should get some assistance from CCP.

Side Note: have you tried the commando suit and if so how is it?

As a stark reminder, Heavies are not the only people playing this game. There are so many other things to address for every play style of the game just about that just because one class doesn't have any love doesn't really mean it's underpowered or overpowered or not on the minds of the developer for adjustments.

Dust 514 studio is not that large and time spend doing things purposely wrong the first time around is not an efficient use of staff and CCP would rather spend the resources right giving you guys the racial heavies instead 3 new suits that are amarr heavies. After all we seen how CCP has some difficulties pipelining removal of items in the past, no need to get plagued by more script accidents.

As for placeholders, when recolored by their specializations and supposive race they're belonging too you're going to wind up with a bunch of guys looking the same on the battlefield and decisions you're making is getting you killed because you thought you saw the wrong shade of blue or green on a gallente sentinel and threw a flux grenade expecting a caldari heavy instead of something more appropriate and the time you just wasted got you killed in that engagement.

All and all, CPM had pushed for it (months ago) CCP basically said 'No, we rather to it right.' and left it at that while other things got focused on.

Now it may be disheartening to see that there is no mention of new gear suits equipment or vehicles on the 6 month roadmap but CCP Wolfman basically said that new content hasn't been paused for the roadmap so the chances of seeing new things is definitely there when they're ready and it can be anything from new guns to new suits including the missing racials. Afterall things like these can fall under balancing, which itself on the roadmap itself.

And btw, go ahead and continue to sell your fantasy CCP hates heavies, you're going to be sorely disappointed.

ok then why is it all the other classes got scramblers and flaylocks and shield energizers and all different variants and we got .... the commando ... oh and ... yea looking for it ... hold on ... yea nothing

Explains why other classes have racial variants to chose from...

'no we'd rather do it right"

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in 2-3 years? Come on CCP... if the option is colored variants or waiting 2-3 years for racial heavies... I think we'd all agree we'll take looking at the wrong shade of green for a while.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Like any one looks at suit colors and says hmmm I should run to the supply depot and change my suit cause this guys color tells me I need a flux grenade. Derp.

No you shoot the dude with what ever your carrying.

Seriously hope you don't offer advice like that?

From IronWolfSaber on IRC:

GG Heavies - we cost too much for them to care about.

and heres and ideal ... gallente heavys = blue ok minmatar = purple = caldiri = white how hard is that im pretty sure I can go into freaking paint and figure something out . I mean im a novice with the ue3 engine and autodesk maya but damn you guyz have how many devs how many scripters

Traditionally
Gallente Green
Caldari Blue
Minmatar Red
Amarr Gold/Yellow

Sentinels are Olive Green, Commandos are Maroon Red, and Prototypes are black.

The when combined under environmental light the shades can be close enough to be confusing. They're going have to go the more obnoxious spectrum of the color pallet in order to get the visual advertisment going.

Traditionally
Gallente Green
Caldari Blue
Minmatar Red
Amarr Gold/Yellow

Sentinels are Olive Green, Commandos are Maroon Red, and Prototypes are black.

The when combined under environmental light the shades can be close enough to be confusing. They're going have to go the more obnoxious spectrum of the color pallet in order to get the visual advertisment going.

Overall doing placeholders would be like painting siding on a house before going in and replacing the siding with bricks.

From IronWolfSaber on IRC:

GG Heavies - we cost too much for them to care about.

Overall doing placeholders would be like painting and repairing siding on a house before tearing it down and going in and replacing the siding with bricks.

It's more work for what it is not worth. Should have done the bricks thing in the first place.

Overall doing placeholders would be like painting and repairing siding on a house before tearing it down and going in and replacing the siding with bricks.

It's more work for what it is not worth. Should have done the bricks thing in the first place.

So CCP messed up, but instead of fixing it, or even a temp fix, they just gonna ignore the matter till they ready to "place bricks"...gotcha.

glad i spent money on this game. Certainly seeing the value for my bucks

You've been here how long? And you expect basic content in this game?

Lmao, good one bro.

a brick is singular.
brick is plural

jus sayin

wut in the blue **** (see wut i did there?) do colors have to do with ANYTHING?????

thats got to b the flakiest cop-out BS excuse ive heard for retardation ive ever heard

and that comes with a big fat DERP!!!

give us our damn racial suits already

Less about colors more about shapes advertising what you are and what you are doing and what threats you are likely mostly going to provide. Color is typically the worst advertiser in Dust 514 and when you start throwing in adaptive colors (color that match the environment) or custom colors well the whole idea goes out the window of using recolors.

Also in better design you wouldn't just be a heavy player but a specific race's heavy, there are quite a few assaults who only identify themselves as one race just right now you guys are lacking some choices however, and despite if given a second option you guys would still be undervalued for having a crappy HMG, being slow as molasses, and not enough utilization of what extremely few slots you guys get to be topped off with an entirely effing useless skill for a weapon that doesn't exist yet. I rather get these fixed and addressed. So when they finally do add a second, third or fourth option you won't be sitting there antagonizing as to why all four races heavies are gawd awful and making you wonder why you even picked heavy anything in the first place.

Things for the heavies needs to improve in a very balanced manner on all fronts.