Content is what keeps a game fresh. No wonder heavies are so few in numbers these days. Who's gonna stick with a game that gives you nothing but talk and punishes you for choosing a class that's a minority.

Less about colors more about shapes advertising what you are and what you are doing and what threats you are likely mostly going to provide. Color is typically the worst advertiser in Dust 514 and when you start throwing in adaptive colors (color that match the environment) or custom colors well the whole idea goes out the window of using recolors.

Also in better design you wouldn't just be a heavy player but a specific race's heavy, there are quite a few assaults who only identify themselves as one race just right now you guys are lacking some choices however, and despite if given a second option you guys would still be undervalued for having a crappy HMG, being slow as molasses, and not enough utilization of what extremely few slots you guys get to be topped off with an entirely effing useless skill for a weapon that doesn't exist yet. I rather get these fixed and addressed. So when they finally do add a second, third or fourth option you won't be sitting there antagonizing as to why all four races heavies are gawd awful and making you wonder why you even picked heavy anything in the first place.

Things for the heavies needs to improve in a very balanced manner on all fronts.

Brick as plural only counts when Brick is being refered to as a building material.
as plural Bricks could be used.

i like the enthusiasm, but unfortunately, some of us here won't be around for that miraculous day heavies get anything significant. Paying customers don't stick with an inferior product.

Regardless of how much potential this game has, people not going to wait 3-5 years to see a glimmer of that potential. PS4 out in a couple of months, but before that GTA5.

A huge amount of people stopped playing for TLoU... imagine the migration for GTA 5 and eventually the PS4. There's no incentive for people to stick with DUST. For more promises and pipe dreams?

No offense to CCP and its staff, i know they're working hard, but the big boys over at CCP should have hired better people to deal with the core FPS mechanics of the game, cuz at the moment that's what holding back content.

Content is what keeps a game fresh. No wonder heavies are so few in numbers these days. Who's gonna stick with a game that gives you nothing but talk and punishes you for choosing a class that's a minority.

From IronWolfSaber on IRC:

GG Heavies - we cost too much for them to care about.

i dont think CCP has yet understood that console players are NOT pc players..........

I think the idea with placeholders was to put in the skill framework using the current suit. People talked about coloring them this way or that, and that sort of thing IS extra work. It's coming up with some sort of scheme to set apart heavies as different races before the suits all exist. That's bad. That is a waste of time.

I was thinking that the code to load the given models/textures would be put in the game, but everywhere it asks for the model/texture... load the exact same pre-existing suit. No extra work, just the code that will be there later, with the commands pointing to the pre-existing file.

I think a little same-ness in heavy/light appearance is fine in the service of earlier access to skills.

From what I'm told on IRC - Us being upset about what's been said in my OP makes us 'entitled' and 'spoiled'

They want to concentrate on fixing what they broke in uprising and don't have the money or time to deal with us fatties.

Smh.

Fatties could skill into other things if they have the excess SP probalbly best if they choose someting that will help them transverse the battlefield quicker LAV, or DS'es(needs armor/shield hardeners to actually survive longer than 1 second in the air)

From what I'm told on IRC - Us being upset about what's been said in my OP makes us 'entitled' and 'spoiled'

They want to concentrate on fixing what they broke in uprising and don't have the money or time to deal with us fatties.

Smh.

From what I'm told on IRC - Us being upset about what's been said in my OP makes us 'entitled' and 'spoiled'

They want to concentrate on fixing what they broke in uprising and don't have the money or time to deal with us fatties.

Smh.

From IronWolfSaber on IRC:

GG Heavies - we cost too much for them to care about.

Anyone that uses Light frame suits could make the same argument, really.

Anyone that uses Light frame suits could make the same argument, really.

Guys - they want to fix the core elements first before adding in new suits!

Balance > content

Which makes absolute sense - if it didn't mean we're stuck as amarr for another half year with FP/MD/Nade spam everywhere making armor tanking as useless as the armor mods.

Wouldn't having more heavy suits and heavy weapons make balancing even easier? More heavy suits/weapons = heavies being balanced amongst their class vs being scaled down to the standards of smaller frames.

at least they have a choice between the 2

They don't agree and flat out call me stupid.

and both choices are considered bad atm which is probably the other point I am trying to drive home.

I mean what if they got all four races dropships in and fixed nothing else? Heavies are in a very similar position.

I'm having trouble grasping the point of the CPM, honestly. CCP doesn't even know what goes out in their own patches, why exactly do we need a middle group to speak for us when we don't really even have much of a say over what they speak about?

O.o

I'm having trouble grasping the point of the CPM, honestly. CCP doesn't even know what goes out in their own patches, why exactly do we need a middle group to speak for us when we don't really even have much of a say over what they speak about?

O.o

Even if our variants are bad - at least we'd have a choice... and a choice between shield tanking and armor tanking would be great... and honestly - fair.

Actually we told SoTa to go to bed since he was drunk.

Not really I hardly notice the difference when forge gunning an armor drop ship or a shield dropship.