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Karazantor
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.07.22 09:38:00 -
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Dysnomia Pandora wrote:Lightning xVx wrote:Dysnomia Pandora wrote:A shotty should not 1 shot a proto thats OP no matter what distance.
Sir, what in the hell are you smoking? The only time this is applicable would be if it WAS a head shot or a point blank shot 1-2 feet away. And even then this game barely registers it so sometimes it takes two hits and you probably don't notice the second shot. Hey everyone is nagging about flaylock that takes 3 shots to kill someone, and a 1 shot shotty cant be nagged about? Thats WACK dude.
Well, the shotgun has a very limited range, it needs to be dead on target (as in actually hit the target, not in a random location within several meters of its feet, and is very visible getting into that location. If you manage all those, you deserve the kill.
The flaylock? Well, from quite a long range it can be fired at someones feet (several meter splash radius), and obliterate them instantly if medium to low hitpoints, then there is 2 other almost instant shots waiting. Its also a sidearm not a primary, yet seems to have as much, if not more, damage potential than a grenade launcher. The fact that it is used by many as a primary weapon and the light weapon is treated as a secondary says it all.
I'm not going to rehash the whole massively public debate again, but there is absolutely no comparison in weapons or skill levels required to use them, especially to get into a killing position with one.
Edit for clarification: I'm not necessarily saying the shotgun as such requires incredible skill to use, it doesn't, but to get into that perfect position to use it, yes definitely. |
Reaper Skordeman
The Reaper Crew PMC
22
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Posted - 2013.07.22 09:52:00 -
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I'm not sure what you're complaining about...
I only recent started using Shotguns, post-1.2 and it's only a little buggy. I say that as I feel the ridicule/spread animation isn't lined with the actual shot ever so slightly.
But as for being underpowered, no it's damage is fine. That being said I've only been using Militia and Standards Shotguns.
My only complaint is that I feel the Breach Shotgun should have a faster fire rate between it's two shots. |
Karazantor
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
100
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Posted - 2013.07.22 09:54:00 -
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Reaper Skordeman wrote:I'm not sure what you're complaining about...
I only recent started using Shotguns, post-1.2 and it's only a little buggy. I say that as I feel the ridicule/spread animation isn't lined with the actual shot ever so slightly.
But as for being underpowered, no it's damage is fine. That being said I've only been using Militia and Standards Shotguns.
My only complaint is that I feel the Breach Shotgun should have a faster fire rate between it's two shots.
Its not damage we are complaining about - its the hopeless hit detection that is greatly exacerbated by even the slightest lag (there is no spread on the shot?).
Use it for a bit longer and see how you feel after a week. |
Shotty GoBang
Pro Hic Immortalis League of Infamy
389
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Posted - 2013.07.22 21:55:00 -
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Reaper Skordeman wrote:I'm not sure what you're complaining about...
I only recent started using Shotguns, post-1.2 and it's only a little buggy. I say that as I feel the ridicule/spread animation isn't lined with the actual shot ever so slightly.
But as for being underpowered, no it's damage is fine. That being said I've only been using Militia and Standards Shotguns.
My only complaint is that I feel the Breach Shotgun should have a faster fire rate between it's two shots.
Hi Reaper,
Level up your SG Operation to 5 then check back with us. Slap on a scout suit if you're feeling extra brave. When your SG's phantom pellets gets you killed, you'll understand what we're complaining about. There's no room for error at 300 hp, yours or otherwise .
- Shotty GoBang |
N1ck Comeau
Pro Hic Immortalis League of Infamy
810
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Posted - 2013.07.22 21:57:00 -
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Shotty GoBang wrote: There's no room for error at 300 hp, yours or otherwise . - Shotty GoBang Best quote i seen all day |
xLTShinySidesx
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
538
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Posted - 2013.07.22 22:08:00 -
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It's pretty stupid.... I had a battle yesterday where I headshot the guy and no damage was received on his part... Then about 5 minutes later I saw a guy standing still hacking so I ran up to make his day and right as I pulled the trigger he backed up and I missed the shot, blatantly missed, I missed bad, I can't stress enough how much this guy was not in my sights when I pulled the trigger, boom!!! Headshot kill!!!
It seems about 40% of my kills lately have registered way late, so late that I'm still shooting at the guy and he's running when all the sudden he falls dead and I get the kill.
Shotty has been way to unreliable since uprising, however, I still use it because that's the style I enjoy.
The nerd rage is strong with this gun but it wasn't always that way. |
Seymor Krelborn
DUST University Ivy League
373
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Posted - 2013.07.22 22:09:00 -
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ive pretty much been using the shotty exclusively since January...
although it is the WORST rendition of a shotgun in any game ive ever played its still strangely fun and ive become somewhat proficient at it by learning to use it the "wrong" way
hit detection is terrible
tracking is terrible
and shotguns should have deadly splash dmg at close range.... im lucky if I graze my intended target even with that gigantic reticle centered on my targets body...
definitely a broken weapon with little to no thought put into it by the devs....very sad
unless I litteraly have my target taking up the majority of my tv screen its at a 50/50 chance it will hit anything. |
xLTShinySidesx
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
538
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Posted - 2013.07.22 22:16:00 -
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N1ck Comeau wrote:Shotty GoBang wrote: There's no room for error at 300 hp, yours or otherwise . - Shotty GoBang Best quote i seen all day
Agreed... The sp cost to fit a scout shotty toon properly, far exceeds the amount it costs to fit any other specialty (minus tanks) and it's a complete joke, almost everything on this high sp setup is broke. |
Lightning xVx
Diamond-Dogs
114
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Posted - 2013.07.22 23:47:00 -
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Dysnomia Pandora wrote:Lightning xVx wrote:Dysnomia Pandora wrote:A shotty should not 1 shot a proto thats OP no matter what distance.
Sir, what in the hell are you smoking? The only time this is applicable would be if it WAS a head shot or a point blank shot 1-2 feet away. And even then this game barely registers it so sometimes it takes two hits and you probably don't notice the second shot. Hey everyone is nagging about flaylock that takes 3 shots to kill someone, and a 1 shot shotty cant be nagged about? Thats WACK dude.
You do realize the Shotgun is a hybrid weapon (eats through shield and armor) and EACH pellet is 37-42 damage, right? Then if you are skilled enough or what people call in my case as "lucky shots/headshots" then it's a point blank shot that YOU clearly didn't dodge. Thus rendering you blown away. |
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