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Posted - 2013.07.06 02:12:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Void Echo wrote:you fail to see that the reason they chose to leave is because they hate the amarr mpire for what you did to their ancestors. The Ammatar and the Ni Kunni both live peacefully amongst use and neighbours and as close friends, they are the purest example of Matari converts to the true faith.
they were forced to do so by your brutality or else they would be killed |
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Posted - 2013.07.06 02:14:00 -
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Damit |
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2013.07.06 02:16:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:True Adamance wrote:Void Echo wrote:you fail to see that the reason they chose to leave is because they hate the amarr mpire for what you did to their ancestors. The Ammatar and the Ni Kunni both live peacefully amongst use and neighbours and as close friends, they are the purest example of Matari converts to the true faith. they were forced to do so by your brutality or else they would be killed
Sir come back with example of Amarrian brutality before you accuse us and paint us in a negative light. I seem to remember recent events within the Federation with the murder of Karin Midular by a Gallentean, and the subsequent brutal execution of that man by the Minmatar. |
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Posted - 2013.07.06 02:35:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Void Echo wrote:True Adamance wrote:Void Echo wrote:you fail to see that the reason they chose to leave is because they hate the amarr mpire for what you did to their ancestors. The Ammatar and the Ni Kunni both live peacefully amongst use and neighbours and as close friends, they are the purest example of Matari converts to the true faith. they were forced to do so by your brutality or else they would be killed Sir come back with example of Amarrian brutality before you accuse us and paint us in a negative light. I seem to remember recent events within the Federation with the murder of Karin Midular by a Gallentean, and the subsequent brutal execution of that man by the Minmatar.
the countless civilizations youv enslaved in the name of your god dont count as brutality? jesus your too far gone, religious finatics |
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2013.07.06 02:41:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:True Adamance wrote:Void Echo wrote:True Adamance wrote:Void Echo wrote:you fail to see that the reason they chose to leave is because they hate the amarr mpire for what you did to their ancestors. The Ammatar and the Ni Kunni both live peacefully amongst use and neighbours and as close friends, they are the purest example of Matari converts to the true faith. they were forced to do so by your brutality or else they would be killed Sir come back with example of Amarrian brutality before you accuse us and paint us in a negative light. I seem to remember recent events within the Federation with the murder of Karin Midular by a Gallentean, and the subsequent brutal execution of that man by the Minmatar. the countless civilizations youv enslaved in the name of your god dont count as brutality? jesus your too far gone, religious fanatics
You still have no respeonded to my current allegations that your people are as brutal as any others.
The Gallenteans seem to have this notion that they are champions of justice a truth.... such fools.
Our religion gives us unity, unity is the greatest gift humanity can receive, only in unity can our blessings be counted.
"I will not hesitate when the test of Faith finds me, for only the strongest conviction will open the gates of paradise. My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity." - The Scriptures, Prophet Kuria, Paladin's Creed |
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Void Echo
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Posted - 2013.07.08 01:57:00 -
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True Adamance wrote: You still have no respeonded to my current allegations that your people are as brutal as any others.
The Gallenteans seem to have this notion that they are champions of justice a truth.... such fools.
Our religion gives us unity, unity is the greatest gift humanity can receive, only in unity can our blessings be counted.
"I will not hesitate when the test of Faith finds me, for only the strongest conviction will open the gates of paradise. My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity." - The Scriptures, Prophet Kuria, Paladin's Creed
everyone has brutality in them, I wont deny that the federation does as well, I will not hesitate to strike down tyranny when it appears in front of me |
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2013.07.08 02:00:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:True Adamance wrote: You still have no respeonded to my current allegations that your people are as brutal as any others.
The Gallenteans seem to have this notion that they are champions of justice a truth.... such fools.
Our religion gives us unity, unity is the greatest gift humanity can receive, only in unity can our blessings be counted.
"I will not hesitate when the test of Faith finds me, for only the strongest conviction will open the gates of paradise. My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity." - The Scriptures, Prophet Kuria, Paladin's Creed
everyone has brutality in them, I wont deny that the federation does as well, I will not hesitate to strike down tyranny when it appears in front of me
But you mistake us there is no tyranny or misery in the Empire. We are one, we are happy, we are the children of God. |
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Aero Yassavi
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Posted - 2013.07.08 02:06:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:True Adamance wrote: You still have no respeonded to my current allegations that your people are as brutal as any others.
The Gallenteans seem to have this notion that they are champions of justice a truth.... such fools.
Our religion gives us unity, unity is the greatest gift humanity can receive, only in unity can our blessings be counted.
"I will not hesitate when the test of Faith finds me, for only the strongest conviction will open the gates of paradise. My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity." - The Scriptures, Prophet Kuria, Paladin's Creed
everyone has brutality in them, I wont deny that the federation does as well, I will not hesitate to strike down tyranny when it appears in front of me If this is true, you should first strike down the tyranny that has been present right under your nose. The Federation may claim themselves to be a democracy, but try to look past their paper thin curtain.
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Posted - 2013.07.08 02:27:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:everyone has brutality in them, I wont deny that the federation does as well, I will not hesitate to strike down tyranny when it appears in front of me
Respectfully, you will have a lot of striking down to do.
Blood falls. The ideal remains unachieved because it is unachievable.
So it has ever been.
So it will ever be. |
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Posted - 2013.07.08 05:43:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Void Echo wrote:True Adamance wrote: You still have no respeonded to my current allegations that your people are as brutal as any others.
The Gallenteans seem to have this notion that they are champions of justice a truth.... such fools.
Our religion gives us unity, unity is the greatest gift humanity can receive, only in unity can our blessings be counted.
"I will not hesitate when the test of Faith finds me, for only the strongest conviction will open the gates of paradise. My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity." - The Scriptures, Prophet Kuria, Paladin's Creed
everyone has brutality in them, I wont deny that the federation does as well, I will not hesitate to strike down tyranny when it appears in front of me If this is true, you should first strike down the tyranny that has been present right under your nose. The Federation may claim themselves to be a democracy, but try to look past their paper thin curtain.
I suggest you do the same to your empire since it is ruled my religion alone and a class system. you claim to want peace and unity yet you kill all those who think differently than you and you have no tolerance for anyone |
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2013.07.08 05:52:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:Void Echo wrote:True Adamance wrote: You still have no respeonded to my current allegations that your people are as brutal as any others.
The Gallenteans seem to have this notion that they are champions of justice a truth.... such fools.
Our religion gives us unity, unity is the greatest gift humanity can receive, only in unity can our blessings be counted.
"I will not hesitate when the test of Faith finds me, for only the strongest conviction will open the gates of paradise. My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity." - The Scriptures, Prophet Kuria, Paladin's Creed
everyone has brutality in them, I wont deny that the federation does as well, I will not hesitate to strike down tyranny when it appears in front of me If this is true, you should first strike down the tyranny that has been present right under your nose. The Federation may claim themselves to be a democracy, but try to look past their paper thin curtain. I suggest you do the same to your empire since it is ruled my religion alone and a class system. you claim to want peace and unity yet you kill all those who think differently than you and you have no tolerance for anyone
I fail to understand how a class system means we want to kill everyone sir, it is not we don't have tolerance. We tolerate sinners, yet we seek to convert them none the less. |
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Aero Yassavi
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Posted - 2013.07.08 06:10:00 -
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Where is the misinformation of Amarr murdering those who disagree with our beliefs? We merely combat those who threaten our way of life, as would any great empire do. As Adamance has made clear, we do tolerate those of different beliefs; for example, Caldari State. We still seek to convert them, but we will not attack them unless they threaten us. |
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Galm Fae
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Posted - 2013.07.08 07:48:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Where is the misinformation of Amarr murdering those who disagree with our beliefs? We merely combat those who threaten our way of life, as would any great empire do. As Adamance has made clear, we do tolerate those of different beliefs; for example, Caldari State. We still seek to convert them, but we will not attack them unless they threaten us.
I had a good friend of mine who converted to your scriptures. He was a fine soldier, even for a deteis, and a devote practitioner of the way of the winds. All of a sudden, our corporation sends him off to some godforsaken planet to accompany a squad of you zealots.
Last time I saw him he'd hooked himself up to one of those Amarr-tech suits that bolt into your spine, started calling himself an embodiment of god's will. He made for a poor drinking buddy after that to say the least.
I trust you Amarr about as far as I can throw you. You want to seem all buddy buddy on the barge, fine, but don't start thinking I am ever going to be your friend. You will just keep nudging me and nudging me until I am in one of those freakish suits too I bet. |
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2013.07.08 07:52:00 -
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Galm Fae wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:Where is the misinformation of Amarr murdering those who disagree with our beliefs? We merely combat those who threaten our way of life, as would any great empire do. As Adamance has made clear, we do tolerate those of different beliefs; for example, Caldari State. We still seek to convert them, but we will not attack them unless they threaten us. I had a good friend of mine who converted to your scriptures. He was a fine soldier, even for a deteis, and a devote practitioner of the way of the winds. All of a sudden, our corporation sends him off to some godforsaken planet to accompany a squad of you zealots. Last time I saw him he'd hooked himself up to one of those Amarr-tech suits that bolt into your spine, started calling himself an embodiment of god's will. He made for a poor drinking buddy after that to say the least. I trust you Amarr about as far as I can throw you. You want to seem all buddy buddy on the barge, fine, but don't start thinking I am ever going to be your friend. You will just keep nudging me and nudging me until I am in one of those freakish suits too I bet.
That is a slanderous allegation you are making sir we are not the Nation, we do not enslave and reshape the minds of men, we are no Kuvakei Sansha, curse his name.
Instead we take the body, make it work for its daily bread, and once the day is done one can truly appreciate God's design. |
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Posted - 2013.07.08 08:00:00 -
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Your scriptures are brainwashing, pure and simple. You use the mask of a false religion to exploit individuals into acting towards the ends of those who organize your sermons. I am not one to deny the shortcomings of any other nation, I already come with the knowledge that the exploitation of citizens is commonplace. However you Amarr do it in the most despicable fashion I can imagine. You prey off those who pray. You feed off hope. You take humanity's most powerful gift, and you use it to modify individuals into tools for your empire. |
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Aero Yassavi
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Posted - 2013.07.08 08:04:00 -
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What do we possibly stand to gain by brainwashing? We have no agenda other than to bring peace and unity across the stars under His name. Neither can be achieved through deception. |
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Posted - 2013.07.08 08:06:00 -
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Then why declare war on the Jove? |
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Posted - 2013.07.08 08:16:00 -
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Galm Fae wrote:Then why declare war on the Jove? We did not declare war on the Jove, we declared that we were going to Reclaim them and shepherd them out of darkness. They resisted, as do most who lived all their life unaware of the light, but rest assure one day they too shall be welcomed among our Empire. They did not defeat us, our plans in the reclamation were merely postponed due to internal conflict stirred by the Federation. |
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2013.07.08 08:18:00 -
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Galm Fae wrote:Your scriptures are brainwashing, pure and simple. You use the mask of a false religion to exploit individuals into acting towards the ends of those who organize your sermons. I am not one to deny the shortcomings of any other nation, I already come with the knowledge that the exploitation of citizens is commonplace. However you Amarr do it in the most despicable fashion I can imagine. You prey off those who pray. You feed off hope. You take humanity's most powerful gift, and you use it to modify individuals into tools for your empire.
You are not looking at our empire through a clear lense, you cannot condemn a religious people while not subscribing to religion yourself, nor can you profess to know the minds of our people. What do our lords and masters have to gain from exploiting those already faithful to our god and our empress.
Our people are not tools, to a man like Kuvakei Sansha humanity may seem like tool, to us they are the sons and daughters of God by whose divine providence accepts them willingliy for all their flaws into his arms in heaven.
To me as an immortal mercenary they are the symbols of promise and of God;s true design, they are those truly blessed by him and only those who can truly understand his purpose.
" Yea we stood before the gates of our holiest of cities and wept knowing we would never understand the brilliance of God's design like the mortals would, we stood in stoic silence before the grave our of prophets knowing we too would never be able to interpret their words as the mortals would, and we stand in exile knowing we will never know God's tender embrace like the mortals will."
As I keep insisting to you we do not removed the will to believe or not believe as the Sani Sabik might what we do however strive for is to guide those who do not understand to enlightenment. |
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Posted - 2013.07.08 08:20:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Galm Fae wrote:Then why declare war on the Jove? We did not declare war on the Jove, we declared that we were going to Reclaim them and shepherd them out of darkness. They resisted, as do most who lived all their life unaware of the light, but rest assure one day they too shall be welcomed among our Empire. They did not defeat us, our plans in the reclamation were merely postponed due to internal conflict stirred by the Federation.
We declared war on the Jove in arrogance, our own faith and zeal blinded us to our true callings. We said that we would reclaim the stars but what we did not see was that war is not always the answer to such an end. In the height of our folly God chose to punish us, and from that we learned of humbleness. |
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Posted - 2013.07.08 08:23:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Galm Fae wrote:Then why declare war on the Jove? We did not declare war on the Jove, we declared that we were going to Reclaim them and shepherd them out of darkness. They resisted, as do most who lived all their life unaware of the light, but rest assure one day they too shall be welcomed among our Empire. They did not defeat us, our plans in the reclamation were merely postponed due to internal conflict stirred by the Federation. You Amarr are a tough nut to crack. |
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Posted - 2013.07.08 08:29:00 -
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Galm Fae wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:Galm Fae wrote:Then why declare war on the Jove? We did not declare war on the Jove, we declared that we were going to Reclaim them and shepherd them out of darkness. They resisted, as do most who lived all their life unaware of the light, but rest assure one day they too shall be welcomed among our Empire. They did not defeat us, our plans in the reclamation were merely postponed due to internal conflict stirred by the Federation. You Amarr are a tough nut to crack. Our Faith is our armour.
It is a shame you do not look upon our empire with clear eyes |
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Posted - 2013.07.08 08:52:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:Galm Fae wrote:Then why declare war on the Jove? We did not declare war on the Jove, we declared that we were going to Reclaim them and shepherd them out of darkness. They resisted, as do most who lived all their life unaware of the light, but rest assure one day they too shall be welcomed among our Empire. They did not defeat us, our plans in the reclamation were merely postponed due to internal conflict stirred by the Federation. We declared war on the Jove in arrogance, our own faith and zeal blinded us to our true callings. We said that we would reclaim the stars but what we did not see was that war is not always the answer to such an end. In the height of our folly God chose to punish us, and from that we learned of humbleness.
With all do respect brother, but are our true callings not to defeat the enemies of the outside and control the enemies of the inside in order to cultivate the spirit of man? It is our purpose to go forth and reclaim what he has given and to spread the Truth. We do not desire war, but if those who learn of the true path and reject to follow it choose to combat us we have no choice but to defend our faith. God did not punish us, for while there is no strength like our faith throughout the Heavens we are still mortal men; even us who are deemed "immortal" by our peers shall too one day parish from this realm. The defeat was merely but another hardship we must endure to become closer to God. |
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Posted - 2013.07.08 08:58:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:True Adamance wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:Galm Fae wrote:Then why declare war on the Jove? We did not declare war on the Jove, we declared that we were going to Reclaim them and shepherd them out of darkness. They resisted, as do most who lived all their life unaware of the light, but rest assure one day they too shall be welcomed among our Empire. They did not defeat us, our plans in the reclamation were merely postponed due to internal conflict stirred by the Federation. We declared war on the Jove in arrogance, our own faith and zeal blinded us to our true callings. We said that we would reclaim the stars but what we did not see was that war is not always the answer to such an end. In the height of our folly God chose to punish us, and from that we learned of humbleness. With all do respect brother, but are our true callings not to defeat the enemies of the outside and control the enemies of the inside in order to cultivate the spirit of man? It is our purpose to go forth and reclaim what he has given and to spread the Truth. We do not desire war, but if those who learn of the true path and reject to follow it choose to combat us we have no choice but to defend our faith. God did not punish us, for while there is no strength like our faith throughout the Heavens we are still mortal men; even us who are deemed "immortal" by our peers shall too one day parish from this realm. The defeat was merely but another hardship we must endure to become closer to God. I believe that it is our goal to unite humanity under a single banner, to allow all to share in God's light, however there are other ways to defeat enemies than in battle, our faith teaches us this.
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Posted - 2013.07.08 09:03:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:True Adamance wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:Galm Fae wrote:Then why declare war on the Jove? We did not declare war on the Jove, we declared that we were going to Reclaim them and shepherd them out of darkness. They resisted, as do most who lived all their life unaware of the light, but rest assure one day they too shall be welcomed among our Empire. They did not defeat us, our plans in the reclamation were merely postponed due to internal conflict stirred by the Federation. We declared war on the Jove in arrogance, our own faith and zeal blinded us to our true callings. We said that we would reclaim the stars but what we did not see was that war is not always the answer to such an end. In the height of our folly God chose to punish us, and from that we learned of humbleness. With all do respect brother, but are our true callings not to defeat the enemies of the outside and control the enemies of the inside in order to cultivate the spirit of man? It is our purpose to go forth and reclaim what he has given and to spread the Truth. We do not desire war, but if those who learn of the true path and reject to follow it choose to combat us we have no choice but to defend our faith. God did not punish us, for while there is no strength like our faith throughout the Heavens we are still mortal men; even us who are deemed "immortal" by our peers shall too one day parish from this realm. The defeat was merely but another hardship we must endure to become closer to God. I believe that it is our goal to unite humanity under a single banner, to allow all to share in God's light, however there are other ways to defeat enemies than in battle, our faith teaches us this. But if we our faith is attacked how should we proceed? We cannot sit idly by as our enemies feast on our blood.
It appears we have a disagreement here. I will be sure to attend extra prayer sessions in search for the Truth. I do not wish to spread false word for only great miseries will follow. |
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Posted - 2013.07.08 09:21:00 -
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As will I. I am merely a servant of God, I do not presume to full comprehend the teaching of the Faith at this time. Maybe in several hundred years when I am better equipped and more the wiser. |
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Posted - 2013.07.08 10:05:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Galm Fae wrote:Your scriptures are brainwashing, pure and simple. You use the mask of a false religion to exploit individuals into acting towards the ends of those who organize your sermons. I am not one to deny the shortcomings of any other nation, I already come with the knowledge that the exploitation of citizens is commonplace. However you Amarr do it in the most despicable fashion I can imagine. You prey off those who pray. You feed off hope. You take humanity's most powerful gift, and you use it to modify individuals into tools for your empire. You are not looking at our empire through a clear lense, you cannot condemn a religious people while not subscribing to religion yourself, nor can you profess to know the minds of our people. What do our lords and masters have to gain from exploiting those already faithful to our god and our empress. Our people are not tools, to a man like Kuvakei Sansha humanity may seem like tool, to us they are the sons and daughters of God by whose divine providence accepts them willingliy for all their flaws into his arms in heaven. I would like to see you explain that to the Minmatar. They seem very adamant about the fact that they did not select your religion before be subjugated to it's law. |
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True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2013.07.08 10:10:00 -
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Galm Fae wrote:True Adamance wrote:Galm Fae wrote:Your scriptures are brainwashing, pure and simple. You use the mask of a false religion to exploit individuals into acting towards the ends of those who organize your sermons. I am not one to deny the shortcomings of any other nation, I already come with the knowledge that the exploitation of citizens is commonplace. However you Amarr do it in the most despicable fashion I can imagine. You prey off those who pray. You feed off hope. You take humanity's most powerful gift, and you use it to modify individuals into tools for your empire. You are not looking at our empire through a clear lense, you cannot condemn a religious people while not subscribing to religion yourself, nor can you profess to know the minds of our people. What do our lords and masters have to gain from exploiting those already faithful to our god and our empress. Our people are not tools, to a man like Kuvakei Sansha humanity may seem like tool, to us they are the sons and daughters of God by whose divine providence accepts them willingliy for all their flaws into his arms in heaven. I would like to see you explain that to the Minmatar. They seem very adamant about the fact that they did not select your religion before be subjugated to it's law. I would like to see you explain the Ammatar who formerly were minmatar and now embrace the faith, also that many of the emacipated slaves of Jamyll Sarums proclaimation returned to the Empire, and many more returned to the republic and continued their observances of the Amarri Faith. |
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Void Echo
Internal Error. League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.07.08 16:33:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Galm Fae wrote:True Adamance wrote:Galm Fae wrote:Your scriptures are brainwashing, pure and simple. You use the mask of a false religion to exploit individuals into acting towards the ends of those who organize your sermons. I am not one to deny the shortcomings of any other nation, I already come with the knowledge that the exploitation of citizens is commonplace. However you Amarr do it in the most despicable fashion I can imagine. You prey off those who pray. You feed off hope. You take humanity's most powerful gift, and you use it to modify individuals into tools for your empire. You are not looking at our empire through a clear lense, you cannot condemn a religious people while not subscribing to religion yourself, nor can you profess to know the minds of our people. What do our lords and masters have to gain from exploiting those already faithful to our god and our empress. Our people are not tools, to a man like Kuvakei Sansha humanity may seem like tool, to us they are the sons and daughters of God by whose divine providence accepts them willingliy for all their flaws into his arms in heaven. I would like to see you explain that to the Minmatar. They seem very adamant about the fact that they did not select your religion before be subjugated to it's law. I would like to see you explain the Ammatar who formerly were minmatar and now embrace the faith, also that many of the emacipated slaves of Jamyll Sarums proclaimation returned to the Empire, and many more returned to the republic and continued their observances of the Amarri Faith.
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Yun Hee Ryeon
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
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Posted - 2013.07.08 16:49:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:True Adamance wrote: I would like to see you explain the Ammatar who formerly were minmatar and now embrace the faith, also that many of the emacipated slaves of Jamyll Sarums proclaimation returned to the Empire, and many more returned to the republic and continued their observances of the Amarri Faith.
Um ... Void Echo, since you seem to think that emphasizing that many of the freed former slaves immigrated to the Republic is a complete argument, you may want to consider this:
What is the difference between a returnee who openly practices an evangelical foreign faith ... and a missionary?
Many among the Amarr consider conversion at swordpoint outdated; apparently the previous two emperors held just such beliefs. For those whose primary concern is avoiding bloodshed (not to mention mass enslavement), this is a great step forward. For those of us who mostly want to practice our own native faiths in peace?
Thank the spirits the State isn't a religiously open society. |
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