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when people think about armor vs shields the idea of logi rarely enters the conversation

when i play logisitcs class i hate shield tankers because they have no armor to repair
and when you revive them they get back up with almost no defense making them easy targets

This is my summary of your thread, basically armor works best by standing still under a triage nanohive with rougly 600 eHP, basically armor suits are snipers also we need nano + Maxed CPU/PG skills to be useful according to you.

The new modules were not meant for shield suits, not saying they are not to be used by them but they were meant for us. The fact that they can now be applied to the already massive HP of shields just makes them even more OP.

The real purpose of armor is really high HP with a logistics providing triage, so far it is the other way around we have shields running with heavy class HP and armor suits running at 700-800 HP with the speed of heavies.

Well obviously armour works best under triage... is a flat undeniable increase in reps... That doesnt mean it can be used out of that situation, Marston VC has pointed that out.

I dont have maxed skills... im using an adv heavy with a single adv plate... and no where near maxed cpu/pg lol

The new modules DO help shield tankers... you get a better straight up stats using normal plates and reppers.



Shields dont have triage... so they are nothing alike lol... also the 1000hp cal logi is just down right broke

I dont find slow movement that much of a problem (im used to it ) and if thats the downside to gettin triage... im happy

This is my summary of your thread, basically armor works best by standing still under a triage nanohive with rougly 600 eHP, basically armor suits are snipers also we need nano + Maxed CPU/PG skills to be useful according to you.

The new modules were not meant for shield suits, not saying they are not to be used by them but they were meant for us. The fact that they can now be applied to the already massive HP of shields just makes them even more OP. The real purpose of armor is really high HP with a logistics providing triage, so far it is the other way around we have shields running with heavy class HP and armor suits running at 700-800 HP with the speed of heavies.

I know the new modules help shield tanks, I'm just saying they shouldn't because shield tanks didn't need help to begin with, also the stacking damage mods instead of shield doesn't build a good armor suit, it builds a glass cannon, from far away its deadly but in the frontlines or CQC it is useless.

Shields to have triage its called the Logistics LAV.

Not true, shield tanking was severely nerfed in this build compared to the last build. Nobody noticed because it was the same for everyone. But with less overall shield HP, and the introduction of the Scrambler rifle, shields really have been hit pretty hard. Your confusing the success of the calogi suit with the lack of success for every other shield tanking suit. The only reason calogi is so good is because it can have 670 shield hp (with max stats), if it wasn't for sooooo much upfront HP it wouldn't be nearly as good as it is.

People like to cite remote armor reps as a form of balance when it comes to shields vs armor. At the moment, yes, that certainly comes into effect.

What happens when we get remote shield reps?

The flaylock has 3 shots, the scrambler rifle has 72.........

standard ScR 45 shots
maybe the AScR has 72 rounds

I use the assault sr, not the standard, you can check all these stats on the market if you want.