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Marston VC
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Posted - 2013.07.05 07:33:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Killar-12 wrote:Marston VC wrote:Glori Jinn wrote:I'm quite new to this whole discussion so please excuse any ignorance, but my observation is that all of these points and stats point at 1 vs. 1, in which case I think it's pretty hard to argue that armour is on a level playing field as shields, but wouldn't you normally expect an armour tanker to have a logi buddy nearby most of the time, significantly boosting that repair rate and therefore survivablility?
Presumably balancing is based on this (in tehory at least), given that a shield tanker has only himslef to rely on but in at least some (and I'd expect most) cases an armour tanker should be getting some support from a logi?
I appreciate that a lot of logi's don;t play their role correctly so this might not be the case in reality, but as a dedicated support logi myslef I can appreciate the theory behoind it.
Of course this is probably moot if the majority of logis out there don't even equip a repper but that would make me sad!
G Please read the last three pages of thread and hopefully you'll understand why a logi is unnecessary in this case..... and also keep in mind that some people agree/disagree with my opinion of the suit so take that as you will. It's all a matter of combat doctrine regen vs pure HP tanking HP tanking in this game isn't viable. That is all.
i think i agree with this ^ i like to put just enough HP for me to survive sniper rounds (minus charge snipers :/) which turns out to be about 550 EHP for me i suppose :)
honestly though, i prefer having more upfront HP cuz its more useful to have the hp when you need it, and not when the suit decides its been long enough since you first took damage. but perhaps that's only relevant to me because between fights im repping 18 hp/s...... not sure. |
Killar-12
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Posted - 2013.07.05 07:34:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Killar-12 wrote:Marston VC wrote:Glori Jinn wrote:I'm quite new to this whole discussion so please excuse any ignorance, but my observation is that all of these points and stats point at 1 vs. 1, in which case I think it's pretty hard to argue that armour is on a level playing field as shields, but wouldn't you normally expect an armour tanker to have a logi buddy nearby most of the time, significantly boosting that repair rate and therefore survivablility?
Presumably balancing is based on this (in tehory at least), given that a shield tanker has only himslef to rely on but in at least some (and I'd expect most) cases an armour tanker should be getting some support from a logi?
I appreciate that a lot of logi's don;t play their role correctly so this might not be the case in reality, but as a dedicated support logi myslef I can appreciate the theory behoind it.
Of course this is probably moot if the majority of logis out there don't even equip a repper but that would make me sad!
G Please read the last three pages of thread and hopefully you'll understand why a logi is unnecessary in this case..... and also keep in mind that some people agree/disagree with my opinion of the suit so take that as you will. It's all a matter of combat doctrine regen vs pure HP tanking HP tanking in this game isn't viable. That is all.
I wouldn't say that, but you have to be clever to pure HP tank, heal between engagements not during but you can do more in each engagement at least with shield tankers. |
Cat Merc
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Posted - 2013.07.05 07:34:00 -
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Marston VC:
Your fit is an example of playing to your strengths.
But this is one strength, shields got a buttload more.
In the end all Caldari suits pretty much beat you in all situations.
If both you and the Caldari have the same skill, Caldari wins.
Unless you sit on your destructible nanohive, in which case it depends on if the Caldari has a grenade ready. |
Marston VC
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Posted - 2013.07.05 07:34:00 -
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Killar-12 wrote:Marston VC wrote:Killar-12 wrote:Glori Jinn wrote:I'm quite new to this whole discussion so please excuse any ignorance, but my observation is that all of these points and stats point at 1 vs. 1, in which case I think it's pretty hard to argue that armour is on a level playing field as shields, but wouldn't you normally expect an armour tanker to have a logi buddy nearby most of the time, significantly boosting that repair rate and therefore survivablility?
Presumably balancing is based on this (in tehory at least), given that a shield tanker has only himslef to rely on but in at least some (and I'd expect most) cases an armour tanker should be getting some support from a logi?
I appreciate that a lot of logi's don;t play their role correctly so this might not be the case in reality, but as a dedicated support logi myslef I can appreciate the theory behoind it.
Of course this is probably moot if the majority of logis out there don't even equip a repper but that would make me sad!
G Armor Tankers ideally should have a huge HP pool but slow passive regen exept if actively repped (nanohives or rep tools) Shield Tankers should have moderate HP pools but regen fast if they can find cover. Who ever said armor tanks "ideally" have huge hp pools???? Lol, that's such a funny concept.... saying what things "should be" in a game that offers nearly limitless customization options. People say heavies are supposed to be slow with lots of HP, but that didn't stop me from meeting people who speed tanked heavies. Its all about your perception about these things man. When i got my respect..... no even before that i said "i want to armor tank with good damage to back it up" So for as early as two weeks before i got it (finally) i researched the best suit, and combination of modules that would produce a suit like this. Originally i was going to go proto amar logi, then i switched it to caldari, then i realized that gallente would be best for what i wanted to do. Then i discovered how the suit can be made even more effective using nanohives and kaboom, ive got what i got today. The IDEAL suit for ME...... simple as that!  Okay, true but some things favor certian other things, sure in Eve you can shield tank with a gallente ship but it will be more effective if you armor tank.
Yup! That is true! unfortunately, the racial bonuses in eve make more sense then the racial bonuses in dust right now don't they?? |
Killar-12
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Posted - 2013.07.05 07:36:00 -
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Marston VC wrote:Killar-12 wrote:Marston VC wrote:Killar-12 wrote:Glori Jinn wrote:I'm quite new to this whole discussion so please excuse any ignorance, but my observation is that all of these points and stats point at 1 vs. 1, in which case I think it's pretty hard to argue that armour is on a level playing field as shields, but wouldn't you normally expect an armour tanker to have a logi buddy nearby most of the time, significantly boosting that repair rate and therefore survivablility?
Presumably balancing is based on this (in tehory at least), given that a shield tanker has only himslef to rely on but in at least some (and I'd expect most) cases an armour tanker should be getting some support from a logi?
I appreciate that a lot of logi's don;t play their role correctly so this might not be the case in reality, but as a dedicated support logi myslef I can appreciate the theory behoind it.
Of course this is probably moot if the majority of logis out there don't even equip a repper but that would make me sad!
G Armor Tankers ideally should have a huge HP pool but slow passive regen exept if actively repped (nanohives or rep tools) Shield Tankers should have moderate HP pools but regen fast if they can find cover. Who ever said armor tanks "ideally" have huge hp pools???? Lol, that's such a funny concept.... saying what things "should be" in a game that offers nearly limitless customization options. People say heavies are supposed to be slow with lots of HP, but that didn't stop me from meeting people who speed tanked heavies. Its all about your perception about these things man. When i got my respect..... no even before that i said "i want to armor tank with good damage to back it up" So for as early as two weeks before i got it (finally) i researched the best suit, and combination of modules that would produce a suit like this. Originally i was going to go proto amar logi, then i switched it to caldari, then i realized that gallente would be best for what i wanted to do. Then i discovered how the suit can be made even more effective using nanohives and kaboom, ive got what i got today. The IDEAL suit for ME...... simple as that! Okay, true but some things favor certian other things, sure in Eve you can shield tank with a gallente ship but it will be more effective if you armor tank. Yup! That is true! unfortunately, the racial bonuses in eve make more sense then the racial bonuses in dust right now don't they??
True, very true... |
Marston VC
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Posted - 2013.07.05 07:39:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Marston VC:
Your fit is an example of playing to your strengths.
But this is one strength, shields got a buttload more.
In the end all Caldari suits pretty much beat you in all situations.
If both you and the Caldari have the same skill, Caldari wins.
Unless you sit on your destructible nanohive, in which case it depends on if the Caldari has a grenade ready.
hmmmm i can agree with this! That is more then acceptable in my opinion. My best fight (and one of the few references i have in a 1v1 against a proto caldari was on day 1).
I found him at a letter and he had the ishukone assault SMG. Crap you might say??? SMG = Armor tankings bane. We duked it out, i didn't have my hive, and he didn't have support so it was a 1 v 1. He beat me with 20 hp remaining, and i beat him later with slightly different circumstances giving me an edge. He was a very good player, as shown through the fight i had with him, and by the fact that he was at the top of his teams leaderboards at the end. That's one of like three 1 v 1 fights i can reference when fighting that suit specifically in a 1 v 1 and that's where i get a lot of my confidence from. Of course, its as you say, its much more difficult if he has a grenade ready to go, but that's why improvisation is a thing right? Still, this is a nice little debate we had huh? Did it make you sad when i admitted i was using a logi suit and not an assault suit? |
Marston VC
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Posted - 2013.07.05 07:44:00 -
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Quote:Yup! That is true! unfortunately, the racial bonuses in eve make more sense then the racial bonuses in dust right now don't they??
True, very true...[/quote][/quote]
Yup Don't worry though, when they come out with a suit that's specifically meant for armor tanking ill take in with a warm embrace. For now.... the closest to a suit "meant" for armor tanking is the gallente logi. Its the only suit in the game with 5 low slots, and has a default armor regen of 5 hp/s. So in a way..... im still doing the very best i can do with armor tanking. I mean.... i don't think ive fought more then one person with a suit like mine, and when i saw that one person i was like "well sh*t this sucks to fight against" cuz we literally both threw nanohives down and just had an un-ending fight until my teammates arrived.... |
Killar-12
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Posted - 2013.07.05 07:47:00 -
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Marston VC wrote:Quote:Yup! That is true! unfortunately, the racial bonuses in eve make more sense then the racial bonuses in dust right now don't they?? True, very true... [/quote]
Yup Don't worry though, when they come out with a suit that's specifically meant for armor tanking ill take in with a warm embrace. For now.... the closest to a suit "meant" for armor tanking is the gallente logi. Its the only suit in the game with 5 low slots, and has a default armor regen of 5 hp/s. So in a way..... im still doing the very best i can do with armor tanking. I mean.... i don't think ive fought more then one person with a suit like mine, and when i saw that one person i was like "well sh*t this sucks to fight against" cuz we literally both threw nanohives down and just had an un-ending fight until my teammates arrived....[/quote]
I'm a gal logi but I rarely pull out the suit unless nessecary. |
Cat Merc
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Posted - 2013.07.05 07:53:00 -
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Marston VC wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Marston VC:
Your fit is an example of playing to your strengths.
But this is one strength, shields got a buttload more.
In the end all Caldari suits pretty much beat you in all situations.
If both you and the Caldari have the same skill, Caldari wins.
Unless you sit on your destructible nanohive, in which case it depends on if the Caldari has a grenade ready. hmmmm i can agree with this! That is more then acceptable in my opinion. My best fight (and one of the few references i have in a 1v1 against a proto caldari was on day 1). I found him at a letter and he had the ishukone assault SMG. Crap you might say??? SMG = Armor tankings bane. We duked it out, i didn't have my hive, and he didn't have support so it was a 1 v 1. He beat me with 20 hp remaining, and i beat him later with slightly different circumstances giving me an edge. He was a very good player, as shown through the fight i had with him, and by the fact that he was at the top of his teams leaderboards at the end. That's one of like three 1 v 1 fights i can reference when fighting that suit specifically in a 1 v 1 and that's where i get a lot of my confidence from. Of course, its as you say, its much more difficult if he has a grenade ready to go, but that's why improvisation is a thing right? Still, this is a nice little debate we had huh? Did it make you sad when i admitted i was using a logi suit and not an assault suit?
Not really.
It's well known that logi suits are way better than assault suits, and there is not point to being an assault.
Eventually CCP will fix logis being better assaults than assaults.
Eventually. |
Marston VC
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Killar-12 wrote:Marston VC wrote:Quote:Yup! That is true! unfortunately, the racial bonuses in eve make more sense then the racial bonuses in dust right now don't they?? True, very true...
Yup Don't worry though, when they come out with a suit that's specifically meant for armor tanking ill take in with a warm embrace. For now.... the closest to a suit "meant" for armor tanking is the gallente logi. Its the only suit in the game with 5 low slots, and has a default armor regen of 5 hp/s. So in a way..... im still doing the very best i can do with armor tanking. I mean.... i don't think ive fought more then one person with a suit like mine, and when i saw that one person i was like "well sh*t this sucks to fight against" cuz we literally both threw nanohives down and just had an un-ending fight until my teammates arrived....[/quote]
I'm a gal logi but I rarely pull out the suit unless nessecary.[/quote]
You ought to try a similar fit to the one i listed then. Just to see what its like (if you have the proper equipment unlocked that is). |
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Cat Merc
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Marston VC wrote:Quote:Yup! That is true! unfortunately, the racial bonuses in eve make more sense then the racial bonuses in dust right now don't they?? True, very true... [/quote]
Yup Don't worry though, when they come out with a suit that's specifically meant for armor tanking ill take in with a warm embrace. For now.... the closest to a suit "meant" for armor tanking is the gallente logi. Its the only suit in the game with 5 low slots, and has a default armor regen of 5 hp/s. So in a way..... im still doing the very best i can do with armor tanking. I mean.... i don't think ive fought more then one person with a suit like mine, and when i saw that one person i was like "well sh*t this sucks to fight against" cuz we literally both threw nanohives down and just had an un-ending fight until my teammates arrived....[/quote]
Actually, Gallente IS the suit that's speciffically meant for armor.
CCP just suck at balancing :\ |
Marston VC
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Posted - 2013.07.05 07:55:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Marston VC wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Marston VC:
Your fit is an example of playing to your strengths.
But this is one strength, shields got a buttload more.
In the end all Caldari suits pretty much beat you in all situations.
If both you and the Caldari have the same skill, Caldari wins.
Unless you sit on your destructible nanohive, in which case it depends on if the Caldari has a grenade ready. hmmmm i can agree with this! That is more then acceptable in my opinion. My best fight (and one of the few references i have in a 1v1 against a proto caldari was on day 1). I found him at a letter and he had the ishukone assault SMG. Crap you might say??? SMG = Armor tankings bane. We duked it out, i didn't have my hive, and he didn't have support so it was a 1 v 1. He beat me with 20 hp remaining, and i beat him later with slightly different circumstances giving me an edge. He was a very good player, as shown through the fight i had with him, and by the fact that he was at the top of his teams leaderboards at the end. That's one of like three 1 v 1 fights i can reference when fighting that suit specifically in a 1 v 1 and that's where i get a lot of my confidence from. Of course, its as you say, its much more difficult if he has a grenade ready to go, but that's why improvisation is a thing right? Still, this is a nice little debate we had huh? Did it make you sad when i admitted i was using a logi suit and not an assault suit? Not really. It's well known that logi suits are way better than assault suits, and there is not point to being an assault. Eventually CCP will fix logis being better assaults than assaults. Eventually.
And that's specifically why i leveled the medium frame skill to 5 just in case they decided to nerf the logi. I came up with a nifty fitting for that too! Though its not nearly as tankable/survivable as the logi variant of it. Same damage, 400 armor instead of 450, and only 10 Hp/s rep (with no triage nanohive). Ive tested it and its still pretty good, just not nearly as good as other well fit suits...... |
Marston VC
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Posted - 2013.07.05 07:57:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Marston VC wrote:Quote:Yup! That is true! unfortunately, the racial bonuses in eve make more sense then the racial bonuses in dust right now don't they?? True, very true...
Yup Don't worry though, when they come out with a suit that's specifically meant for armor tanking ill take in with a warm embrace. For now.... the closest to a suit "meant" for armor tanking is the gallente logi. Its the only suit in the game with 5 low slots, and has a default armor regen of 5 hp/s. So in a way..... im still doing the very best i can do with armor tanking. I mean.... i don't think ive fought more then one person with a suit like mine, and when i saw that one person i was like "well sh*t this sucks to fight against" cuz we literally both threw nanohives down and just had an un-ending fight until my teammates arrived....[/quote]
Actually, Gallente IS the suit that's speciffically meant for armor.
CCP just suck at balancing :\[/quote]
(shhhh don't make them break my suit cat..... I just want the calogi suit to get nerfed, nothing more) |
Arkena Wyrnspire
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Posted - 2013.07.05 08:01:00 -
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I've always had issues with grenades when I pop a triage nanohive.
It's an interesting tactic though. |
Killar-12
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Posted - 2013.07.05 08:04:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Marston VC wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Marston VC:
Your fit is an example of playing to your strengths.
But this is one strength, shields got a buttload more.
In the end all Caldari suits pretty much beat you in all situations.
If both you and the Caldari have the same skill, Caldari wins.
Unless you sit on your destructible nanohive, in which case it depends on if the Caldari has a grenade ready. hmmmm i can agree with this! That is more then acceptable in my opinion. My best fight (and one of the few references i have in a 1v1 against a proto caldari was on day 1). I found him at a letter and he had the ishukone assault SMG. Crap you might say??? SMG = Armor tankings bane. We duked it out, i didn't have my hive, and he didn't have support so it was a 1 v 1. He beat me with 20 hp remaining, and i beat him later with slightly different circumstances giving me an edge. He was a very good player, as shown through the fight i had with him, and by the fact that he was at the top of his teams leaderboards at the end. That's one of like three 1 v 1 fights i can reference when fighting that suit specifically in a 1 v 1 and that's where i get a lot of my confidence from. Of course, its as you say, its much more difficult if he has a grenade ready to go, but that's why improvisation is a thing right? Still, this is a nice little debate we had huh? Did it make you sad when i admitted i was using a logi suit and not an assault suit? Not really. It's well known that logi suits are way better than assault suits, and there is not point to being an assault. Eventually CCP will fix logis being better assaults than assaults. Eventually.
making the general assault bounus increase damage dealt and logis get a total reworking with the bounus to all logis a CPU/PG reduction to equipment
and each suit would get a different bounus with some exceptions
If I recall
Amarr gets the current logi bounus as it's racial
Cal Logi stays the same
Gal Logi gets the cal logi bounus but to armor plates
Minnie gets shield regen bounus |
Marston VC
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^ that's all up to debate really..... Im sure that at the end of the day the CPM will do a great job at coming up with a solution for CCP to use......  |
Killar-12
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Posted - 2013.07.05 08:11:00 -
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Marston VC wrote:^ that's all up to debate really..... Im sure that at the end of the day the CPM will do a great job at coming up with a solution for CCP to use......
That has to be sarcasm the entire CPM are shield tankers and if they lose their advantage they will QQ |
Marston VC
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Posted - 2013.07.05 08:16:00 -
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Killar-12 wrote:Marston VC wrote:^ that's all up to debate really..... Im sure that at the end of the day the CPM will do a great job at coming up with a solution for CCP to use...... That has to be sarcasm the entire CPM are shield tankers and if they lose their advantage they will QQ
I shall maintain a neutral opinion about most of the CPM members. I don't have anything against them, but i dislike how there able to suggest things to CCP without the actual community having a say in it...... I mean i have NO clue what any of them say to CCP except for what they tell us, and often times they say give CCP ideas that are either completely irrelevant or seemingly random. I mean, don't get me wrong, having the CPM is a good step forward, but when you consider the fact that at-least One of them BARELY plays dust..... like.... at all. You gotta wonder what their qualifications were to start with..... it goes back to when they first got the position and many criticized CCP for chosing more "safe" options, and less people who actually new what they were talking about in regards to the game. |
Cosgar
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Posted - 2013.07.05 08:21:00 -
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Thanks to the new strafing speeds, I don't even bother with buffer tanking anymore with armor.
-1 Complex Ferroscale Plate
-3 Complex Armor Reppers
23.75 HP/s (Thanks to logi suit bonus)
253.5 Armor
23.75 HP/s (Thanks to logi suit bonus)
0% Movement Penalty- Regen Tanking FTW
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Marston VC
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Posted - 2013.07.05 08:28:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Thanks to the new strafing speeds, I don't even bother with buffer tanking anymore with armor.
-1 Complex Ferroscale Plate
-3 Complex Armor Reppers
23.75 HP/s (Thanks to logi suit bonus)
253.5 Armor
23.75 HP/s (Thanks to logi suit bonus)
0% Movement Penalty- Regen Tanking FTW
Yeah.... that regen tanking will mean a whole lot when you get sniped. Or shotgunned. Or caught anywhere near a militia grenade...... I perefer 'buffer' tanking because like i said earlier, its better to have the extra HP ready to go, and not have it whenever the suit feels like its time to give it to you. |
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bethany valvetino
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Posted - 2013.07.05 08:31:00 -
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to the OP
Shhh!!!
don't tell everyone!!! |
Marston VC
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Posted - 2013.07.05 08:32:00 -
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bethany valvetino wrote:to the OP
Shhh!!!
don't tell everyone!!!
Are you...... one of the enlightened ones like me? |
Cosgar
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Posted - 2013.07.05 08:44:00 -
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Marston VC wrote:Cosgar wrote:Thanks to the new strafing speeds, I don't even bother with buffer tanking anymore with armor.
-1 Complex Ferroscale Plate
-3 Complex Armor Reppers
23.75 HP/s (Thanks to logi suit bonus)
253.5 Armor
23.75 HP/s (Thanks to logi suit bonus)
0% Movement Penalty- Regen Tanking FTW
Yeah.... that regen tanking will mean a whole lot when you get sniped. Or shotgunned. Or caught anywhere near a militia grenade...... I perefer 'buffer' tanking because like i said earlier, its better to have the extra HP ready to go, and not have it whenever the suit feels like its time to give it to you. OH! and that speed reduction is negligible when you consider how much speed you actually have after a 3% reduction...... or in my case 9% which is still more then fast enough to get by.
That's just my armor, I hybrid tank with Minmatar Logi. |
Marston VC
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Posted - 2013.07.05 08:46:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Marston VC wrote:Cosgar wrote:Thanks to the new strafing speeds, I don't even bother with buffer tanking anymore with armor.
-1 Complex Ferroscale Plate
-3 Complex Armor Reppers
23.75 HP/s (Thanks to logi suit bonus)
253.5 Armor
23.75 HP/s (Thanks to logi suit bonus)
0% Movement Penalty- Regen Tanking FTW
Yeah.... that regen tanking will mean a whole lot when you get sniped. Or shotgunned. Or caught anywhere near a militia grenade...... I perefer 'buffer' tanking because like i said earlier, its better to have the extra HP ready to go, and not have it whenever the suit feels like its time to give it to you. OH! and that speed reduction is negligible when you consider how much speed you actually have after a 3% reduction...... or in my case 9% which is still more then fast enough to get by. That's just my armor, I hybrid tank with Minmatar Logi.
hmmm a man once said something in this thread about hybrid tanking..... something like "the benefits of both tanking minus the negatives of either" or something like that..... idk. if you wanted a hybrid tank you should have went amar logi. |
Smoky Fingers
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Posted - 2013.07.05 08:51:00 -
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Basic armor plates & regen tanking ftw  . Too many times have I regen tanked into someones absolute range, lure them into an isolated area and strike as soon as they're defensless. |
Cosgar
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Posted - 2013.07.05 08:53:00 -
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Marston VC wrote:hmmm a man once said something in this thread about hybrid tanking..... something like "the benefits of both tanking minus the negatives of either" or something like that..... idk. if you wanted a hybrid tank you should have went amar logi.
I've been using Minmatar since EVE. Can't let go of my rust and duct tape now. |
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Smoky Fingers wrote:Basic armor plates & regen tanking ftw . Too many times have I regen tanked into someones absolute range, lure them into an isolated area and strike as soon as they're defensless.
Good man, good man |
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Posted - 2013.07.05 08:57:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Marston VC wrote:hmmm a man once said something in this thread about hybrid tanking..... something like "the benefits of both tanking minus the negatives of either" or something like that..... idk. if you wanted a hybrid tank you should have went amar logi. I've been using Minmatar since EVE. Can't let go of my rust and duct tape now.
lololol. well if that's the case, do what you want to. The minmatar logi is still a superb logistics suit. 4 highs, 4 meds, 4 lows makes it pretty balanced, and VERY flexible. I was just thinking too narrow mindedly is all. However now that i actually remembered what the min logi was like, i can relate to you better. Its not a bad suit at all! and im sure you can hybrid tank it pretty good! Buttttt i wont be trying it because im pretty much in love with my armor tanking suit.... |
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Marston VC wrote:bethany valvetino wrote:to the OP
Shhh!!!
don't tell everyone!!! Are you...... one of the enlightened ones like me?
I run my heavy with going on towards 600 armour. Now if im running solo my play style changes somewhat and i play in my not unsubstantial 500 shields. But my prefered style of play and the most effective is using my large armour hp to give a logi something to get its teeth into.
Try 110hp/s armour repair, jumping up to 180hp/s in cover.
Played a domination match where i had my handy logi from my squad following me around, got into a firefight over a bridge and got backed up by 2 more logi's... armour didnt drop below half, standing out in the open constantly ... only problem i had was for the last part of the fight i was down to my smg couldnt tell you what my regain was but at least one of the other logi's must have been running a proto repair tool... so... 250hp/s ?
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Posted - 2013.07.05 09:22:00 -
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ChromeBreaker wrote:Marston VC wrote:bethany valvetino wrote:to the OP
Shhh!!!
don't tell everyone!!! Are you...... one of the enlightened ones like me? I run my heavy with going on towards 600 armour. Now if im running solo my play style changes somewhat and i play in my not unsubstantial 500 shields. But my prefered style of play and the most effective is using my large armour hp to give a logi something to get its teeth into. Try 110hp/s armour repair, jumping up to 180hp/s in cover. Played a domination match where i had my handy logi from my squad following me around, got into a firefight over a bridge and got backed up by 2 more logi's... armour didnt drop below half, standing out in the open constantly ... only problem i had was for the last part of the fight i was down to my smg Armour is OP
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