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dustwaffle Ill Omens EoN. 142	Posted - 2013.07.04 02:23:00 - [31] - Quote Fiddlestaxp wrote: It is a viable area denial weapon again. I am satisfied for the moment. I was wondering about it's effectiveness against shields however. One Dev blog I read stated that it was supposed to be 80% damage against shields, but when I target a player with full shields, the target effectiveness indicator only reads 70%. Is there something that I am missing here, or is it doing less damage to shields than intended? Could it be due to a less than direct hit? Dunno
Andius Fidelitas The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION 89	Posted - 2013.07.04 03:25:00 - [32] - Quote Seeing how effectively I am getting murdered by Mass Drivers, it made me kinda giddy and ragy at the same time. Still, this is a positive step in finally seeing other weapons becoming viable and genuine threat.
Alldin Kan Imperfects Negative-Feedback 326	Posted - 2013.07.04 03:46:00 - [33] - Quote CCP Wolfman wrote: Hi WeGÇÖve not made any changes to the Mass Driver stats. After the issues that were reported (and we saw ourselves) we investigated and found some problems below the surface. What we have done is improve our checks for splash damage and fix a client/server de-sync issue that would sometimes cause them to be inaccurate. CCP Wolfman I'm worried for the future of this game...
MASS DR1V3R KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 35	Posted - 2013.07.04 03:52:00 - [34] - Quote Alldin Kan wrote: CCP Wolfman wrote: Hi WeGÇÖve not made any changes to the Mass Driver stats. After the issues that were reported (and we saw ourselves) we investigated and found some problems below the surface. What we have done is improve our checks for splash damage and fix a client/server de-sync issue that would sometimes cause them to be inaccurate. CCP Wolfman I'm worried for the future of this game... That was my exact thought when I read that post.
Syther Shadows The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 189	Posted - 2013.07.04 04:10:00 - [35] - Quote NaglfarBP wrote: CCP Wolfman wrote: Hi WeGÇÖve not made any changes to the Mass Driver stats. After the issues that were reported (and we saw ourselves) we investigated and found some problems below the surface. What we have done is improve our checks for splash damage and fix a client/server de-sync issue that would sometimes cause them to be inaccurate. CCP Wolfman Excellent work, the MD feels much better! Now, add a tiny bit of splash range pls? skill into it and you get splash range on all of them stop asking for buffs...
Fiddlestaxp TeamPlayers EoN. 140	Posted - 2013.07.04 04:12:00 - [36] - Quote The radius reduction of 1.0 and 1.1 was necessary because of the range reduction in all weapons. Less range = More CQC = Stronger Mass Driverl The additional range given to other weapons again required a tweak to the mass driver splash radius. This time they changed it from 3.0(std) /3.1(Adv)/ 3.3(pro) to 4/4.2/4.4. CCP definitely changed the values, even if they don't realize it(you should probably check the game stats or ask someone who might know before responding to these things). I am almost certain that the item value change isn't just cosmetic, and is actually reflected in game. A lot easier to hit shots and also kill yourself.
crazy space 1 Unkn0wn Killers 1415	Posted - 2013.07.04 04:13:00 - [37] - Quote MASS DR1V3R wrote: CCP Wolfman wrote: Hi WeGÇÖve not made any changes to the Mass Driver stats. After the issues that were reported (and we saw ourselves) we investigated and found some problems below the surface. What we have done is improve our checks for splash damage and fix a client/server de-sync issue that would sometimes cause them to be inaccurate. CCP Wolfman Sorry Dev, you're wrong. The blast radius stats got buffed. Uprising 1.1 blast radius stats: STD - 3m ADV - 3.1m Proto - 3.3m Uprising 1.2 blast radius stats: STD - 4m ADV - 4.2m Proto -4.4m What I don't get is why would a change be made without a dev blog and player feedback thread?
Chances Ghost Inf4m0us ROFL BROS 200	Posted - 2013.07.04 04:28:00 - [38] - Quote crazy space 1 wrote: MASS DR1V3R wrote: CCP Wolfman wrote: Hi WeGÇÖve not made any changes to the Mass Driver stats. After the issues that were reported (and we saw ourselves) we investigated and found some problems below the surface. What we have done is improve our checks for splash damage and fix a client/server de-sync issue that would sometimes cause them to be inaccurate. CCP Wolfman Sorry Dev, you're wrong. The blast radius stats got buffed. Uprising 1.1 blast radius stats: STD - 3m ADV - 3.1m Proto - 3.3m Uprising 1.2 blast radius stats: STD - 4m ADV - 4.2m Proto -4.4m What I don't get is why would a change be made without a dev blog and player feedback thread? nobody was using the mass driver before the change, now i see at least one every game
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 4391	Posted - 2013.07.04 04:32:00 - [39] - Quote Chances Ghost wrote: nobody was using the mass driver before the change, now i see at least one every game I'm a Heavy, explosive things in Uprising make me sad :(
Ludvig Enraga KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 281	Posted - 2013.07.04 04:46:00 - [40] - Quote But what will Cosgar say?

Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 3014	Posted - 2013.07.04 04:54:00 - [41] - Quote Chances Ghost wrote: crazy space 1 wrote: MASS DR1V3R wrote: CCP Wolfman wrote: Hi WeGÇÖve not made any changes to the Mass Driver stats. After the issues that were reported (and we saw ourselves) we investigated and found some problems below the surface. What we have done is improve our checks for splash damage and fix a client/server de-sync issue that would sometimes cause them to be inaccurate. CCP Wolfman Sorry Dev, you're wrong. The blast radius stats got buffed. Uprising 1.1 blast radius stats: STD - 3m ADV - 3.1m Proto - 3.3m Uprising 1.2 blast radius stats: STD - 4m ADV - 4.2m Proto -4.4m What I don't get is why would a change be made without a dev blog and player feedback thread? nobody was using the mass driver before the change, now i see at least one every game WTF are you talking about? I was seeing mass drivers in at least one in each game even before 1.2.
Chances Ghost Inf4m0us ROFL BROS 200	Posted - 2013.07.04 05:08:00 - [42] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Chances Ghost wrote: crazy space 1 wrote: MASS DR1V3R wrote: CCP Wolfman wrote: Hi WeGÇÖve not made any changes to the Mass Driver stats. After the issues that were reported (and we saw ourselves) we investigated and found some problems below the surface. What we have done is improve our checks for splash damage and fix a client/server de-sync issue that would sometimes cause them to be inaccurate. CCP Wolfman Sorry Dev, you're wrong. The blast radius stats got buffed. Uprising 1.1 blast radius stats: STD - 3m ADV - 3.1m Proto - 3.3m Uprising 1.2 blast radius stats: STD - 4m ADV - 4.2m Proto -4.4m What I don't get is why would a change be made without a dev blog and player feedback thread? nobody was using the mass driver before the change, now i see at least one every game WTF are you talking about? I was seeing mass drivers in at least one in each game even before 1.2. well what i am talking about are my own personal observations and experiance from my perspective mass drivers were rare before, and now i see multiple a game and before i rarely saw a single one. its called a personal anecdote, others experiances may vary
MASS DR1V3R KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 36	Posted - 2013.07.04 05:12:00 - [43] - Quote crazy space 1 wrote: MASS DR1V3R wrote: CCP Wolfman wrote: Hi WeGÇÖve not made any changes to the Mass Driver stats. After the issues that were reported (and we saw ourselves) we investigated and found some problems below the surface. What we have done is improve our checks for splash damage and fix a client/server de-sync issue that would sometimes cause them to be inaccurate. CCP Wolfman Sorry Dev, you're wrong. The blast radius stats got buffed. Uprising 1.1 blast radius stats: STD - 3m ADV - 3.1m Proto - 3.3m Uprising 1.2 blast radius stats: STD - 4m ADV - 4.2m Proto -4.4m What I don't get is why would a change be made without a dev blog and player feedback thread? Yeah, I never would have guessed that they would do an ignorant denial stealth buff.

CCP Remnant C C P C C P Alliance 402	Posted - 2013.07.04 05:48:00 - [44] - Quote It's not Wolfman's fault. He asked me if I'd made any changes to the Mass Driver and I told him none that I could recall. I later checked my change history and I had increased the splash damage up from 3m to 4m... back in May. We're often working in a build that has enough differences to the live build that it can be hard to remember when/if a single stat was changed. I apologize for the misinformation. All derpishness in this matter can be traced back to me.

Colonel Killar DUST CORE DARKSTAR ARMY 100	Posted - 2013.07.04 05:52:00 - [45] - Quote CCP Remnant wrote: It's not Wolfman's fault. He asked me if I'd made any changes to the Mass Driver and I told him none that I could recall. I later checked my change history and I had increased the splash damage up from 3m to 4m... back in May. We're often working in a build that has enough differences to the live build that it can be hard to remember when/if a single stat was changed. I apologize for the misinformation. All derpishness in this matter can be traced back to me. It's fine please don't change it back it seems like it's balenced the AR's can touch me from across the map.
Aeon Amadi A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 1789	Posted - 2013.07.04 05:57:00 - [46] - Quote CCP Remnant wrote: It's not Wolfman's fault. He asked me if I'd made any changes to the Mass Driver and I told him none that I could recall. I later checked my change history and I had increased the splash damage up from 3m to 4m... back in May. We're often working in a build that has enough differences to the live build that it can be hard to remember when/if a single stat was changed. I apologize for the misinformation. All derpishness in this matter can be traced back to me. All good brosef. Feel free to take my post down.
DoomLead Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 80	Posted - 2013.07.04 06:00:00 - [47] - Quote CCP Remnant wrote: It's not Wolfman's fault. He asked me if I'd made any changes to the Mass Driver and I told him none that I could recall. I later checked my change history and I had increased the splash damage up from 3m to 4m... back in May. We're often working in a build that has enough differences to the live build that it can be hard to remember when/if a single stat was changed. I apologize for the misinformation. All derpishness in this matter can be traced back to me. can you also increase the effective range for the hmg to 45m plz or increase our turn speed since we are supposed to be close range specialist
The Cobra Commander Bojo's School of the Trades 53	Posted - 2013.07.04 06:08:00 - [48] - Quote MASS DR1V3R wrote: Alldin Kan wrote: CCP Wolfman wrote: Hi WeGÇÖve not made any changes to the Mass Driver stats. After the issues that were reported (and we saw ourselves) we investigated and found some problems below the surface. What we have done is improve our checks for splash damage and fix a client/server de-sync issue that would sometimes cause them to be inaccurate. CCP Wolfman I'm worried for the future of this game... That was my exact thought when I read that post. It's like they don't play the game...
IamI3rian OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 259	Posted - 2013.07.04 06:15:00 - [49] - Quote CCP Remnant wrote: It's not Wolfman's fault. I had increased the splash damage up from 3m to 4m... back in May. Why does it seem that you aren't a real company serious about gaming, but rather a frat house who does cool stuff instead of get arrested for being drunk? Seriously. Do you even know each other. Have you ever actually sat down and ate a sandwich with Blam!? Because if not, I kinda get it. Otherwise, if yes... I just...
SERPENT-Adamapple Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 106	Posted - 2013.07.04 06:18:00 - [50] - Quote The Cobra Commander wrote: MASS DR1V3R wrote: Alldin Kan wrote: CCP Wolfman wrote: Hi WeGÇÖve not made any changes to the Mass Driver stats. After the issues that were reported (and we saw ourselves) we investigated and found some problems below the surface. What we have done is improve our checks for splash damage and fix a client/server de-sync issue that would sometimes cause them to be inaccurate. CCP Wolfman I'm worried for the future of this game... That was my exact thought when I read that post. It's like they don't play the game... Stop knocking on them @$$-0, He came out with a formal apology and you still have to be a jerk. They have data going all the way back to May, so be considerate about mistakes, everyone makes them.

Cosgar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 2177	Posted - 2013.07.04 06:20:00 - [51] - Quote Ludvig Enraga wrote: But what will Cosgar say? My first match in 1.2 was at the complex where I threw a flux grenade into a heavily camped room, unloaded some EXO-5 rounds and got a quadruple kill. CCP Remnant wrote: It's not Wolfman's fault. He asked me if I'd made any changes to the Mass Driver and I told him none that I could recall. I later checked my change history and I had increased the splash damage up from 3m to 4m... back in May. We're often working in a build that has enough differences to the live build that it can be hard to remember when/if a single stat was changed. I apologize for the misinformation. All derpishness in this matter can be traced back to me. No worries, all we wanted was for our area denial weapon to be an actual area denial weapon again. The blast radius is in a great spot, bringing back the smoke was a great addition and since the Uprising nerf, many of us massholes only got better. Once the secondary skills are more weapon specific, investing SP into ammo capacity might make up for the lack of supply depots and the nanohive nerf. Also, I just wanted to apologize for all the rants and rave posts from earlier. I don't envy you and Wofman for having to put up with us when you're just trying to do your job, no hard feelings.
IamI3rian OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 259	Posted - 2013.07.04 06:25:00 - [52] - Quote SERPENT-Adamapple wrote: They have data going all the way back to May I'm glad we agree.
Harpyja DUST University Ivy League 176	Posted - 2013.07.04 06:51:00 - [53] - Quote Now let's put missiles back to their former glory
Kody Cole Dem Durrty Boyz 13	Posted - 2013.07.04 07:04:00 - [54] - Quote i understand its a mistake, but fix it quick please.
Cosgar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 2180	Posted - 2013.07.04 07:07:00 - [55] - Quote Kody Cole wrote: i understand its a mistake, but fix it quick please. What exactly do you mean by fix?
Kody Cole Dem Durrty Boyz 13	Posted - 2013.07.04 07:19:00 - [56] - Quote This Sorry Dev, you're wrong. The blast radius stats got buffed. Uprising 1.1 blast radius stats: STD - 3m ADV - 3.1m Proto - 3.3m Uprising 1.2 blast radius stats: STD - 4m ADV - 4.2m Proto -4.4m
MASS DR1V3R KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 36	Posted - 2013.07.04 07:53:00 - [57] - Quote Stats are awesome now. MD is completely balanced. I love it more than I ever did before.
Galvan Nized Deep Space Republic Top Men. 47	Posted - 2013.07.04 08:35:00 - [58] - Quote Its nice seeing these again, kind of missed them. They are still no Flaylock in the amount of Dmg they deal in a short period but are good for fleshing guys out. Hate fighting 1v1 now so many people just aim at my feet.
xSir Campsalotx D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 13	Posted - 2013.07.04 08:58:00 - [59] - Quote I'm glad y'all got your MD back with increased splash (ninja armor nerf) but now armor tankers are gonna be hurting even more, now to fix the armor!
xSir Campsalotx D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 13	Posted - 2013.07.04 09:01:00 - [60] - Quote DoomLead wrote: CCP Remnant wrote: It's not Wolfman's fault. He asked me if I'd made any changes to the Mass Driver and I told him none that I could recall. I later checked my change history and I had increased the splash damage up from 3m to 4m... back in May. We're often working in a build that has enough differences to the live build that it can be hard to remember when/if a single stat was changed. I apologize for the misinformation. All derpishness in this matter can be traced back to me. can you also increase the effective range for the hmg to 45m plz or increase our turn speed since we are supposed to be close range specialist Ill take damage or range for my beloved HMG either or.



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