Scrambler rifle aint up there? Fo' realsies?

Do yo run proto?

yup
It's among the "other"

Things missing:

HMG
FG
ScR
LR
SP
SMG
MD
SG
RE
Installation Turret
Grenades
HAV
DS

I'd like to see the percentages on these.

Do yo run proto?

Yes, too much money to care lol

I kept track of the reasons of death for 130 matches.
I died a total of 205 times.
It is as follows:
6% Spawn deaths
27% LLAV's
23% Free LAV's
15% Flaylock's
11% Assault rifles
11% Snipers
2% mysterious deaths (Deaths that I have no explanation towards, just died out of nowhere) + RDV's
5% other (Every other possible cause of death)

This is rounded up to make nice numbers.

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Do you even lift?



Sorry, that's how this quote read to me, though he's probably asking an honest question.



Anyways, 50% of deaths caused by getting run over. I'm glad that they're maybe only abotu 15% of my deaths. However, I guess it's still a comment on the state of the game because there are enough LAVs driving around for you to die 100 times to them in 130 matches, though that's only 1.3 deaths per match to LAVs.

You would be surprised how much I try to dodge LAV's.
However this just puts into prespective the state of them game, where a vehicle running over you is around 50% of your deaths.

Assault Rifles top my list of things that most commonly kill me.

Do you even lift?



Sorry, that's how this quote read to me, though he's probably asking an honest question.



Anyways, 50% of deaths caused by getting run over. I'm glad that they're maybe only abotu 15% of my deaths. However, I guess it's still a comment on the state of the game because there are enough LAVs driving around for you to die 100 times to them in 130 matches, though that's only 1.3 deaths per match to LAVs.

this proves my point that you go out of your way to find LAVs to kill you.

They find me : <

just like the bunnies..

list of things that kill me
99%=falling
1%=overheating scrambler rifle

Had a near thing one game where I baited an LLAV that was being a tricky customer into running me down. Shot the driver out at the last moment with a Breach Scrambler headshot then made an ungainly dive out of the derelict vehicle's path. Was surprised it even worked.

The inertia for driverless LAVs was toned way down in Uprising, from what I can tell. It used to be possible to drive full speed at a teammate, jump out a few feet from them, and have the LAV kill them because when unoccupied it wasn't "blue" in regards to teamkilling. Had some bastard do this to me once, and I spent the next ten minutes chasing him into my own LAV until I got him back. As far as I know, this is no longer a thing.

Back when LAVs didn't insta-vanish upon destruction, you could have destroyed LAVs run you down even after you killed them. Happened to me as a forgegunner back in Chromosome. Forged the LAV 5 meters from me, killing it, and it still slid forward and ran me over.

Also, sorry Azura Sakura, lol, but when I hit "reply," your original post was the last one on the thread, and this computer at work is so slow that you can see how long it took for me to be able to reply.

Aye but I meant as a seperate entity.
Suprises me, I typically see a fair amount of deaths by them in games.

''27% LLAV's
23% Free LAV's''

I think this pretty much explains 80% of my deaths.
Thought i was playing a FPS tuns out this game is Carmagedon 2.0 ....

Nerf those LAV....they are driving me insane.

On another note, COMMANDO dropsuits hopefully will reduce the usage of LAV's since running around with an AR and a Swarm launcher is now an option.

He's armor tanking which might contribute.

27% LLAV's
23% Free LAV's

Wow you must suck at dodging LAVs.

Because you can dodge 3 LAV's chasing you while having a fire fight with two people?
I tought so.

No I use what you call a SWARM LAUNCHER. Oh and AV grenades.

Also that accounts for one incident what about the others?

Should have used two reppers.

Enhanced plates suit when you stack them.

I'm sorry, but this data is obviously fake.

Everyone knows cats only have nine lives, geez, simple animal biology, guys!

Bro, all of my suits use proto AV.
LLAV's eat up all 3 and still stay alive.
So you want me to take on 3?

You are defending bad design.

I kept track of the reasons of death for 130 matches.
I died a total of 205 times.
It is as follows:
6% Spawn deaths
27% LLAV's
23% Free LAV's
15% Flaylock's
11% Assault rifles
11% Snipers
2% mysterious deaths (Deaths that I have no explanation towards, just died out of nowhere) + RDV's
5% other (Every other possible cause of death)

This is rounded up to make nice numbers.

My fit for all of these matches (I wanted to keep it consistant so I used one suit):
Assault gk.0
Duvolle AR
2x Complex damage mod
1x Enhanced damage mod
1x Basic Plate
1x Enhanced plate
2x Complex armor repairer
1x Nanohive
1x Proto AV Grenade

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I'm gonna go ahead and call bullshit on this.

First, no grenade deaths at all? No deaths from the scrambler rifle, pistol, MD (I can believe), Shotgun, remote explosives? These were all, combined, less that 5%? You had more spawn deaths than all these combined? What's a spawn death anyway?

No deaths from orbitals, no kills from turrets or HAVs, or HMG? Hmmmm..

All of that, all of that constituted just 10 kills? When I watch the kill feed I see mostly ARs, then maybe scramblers, usually some runovers, some HAV kills, some orbitals, etc.


Maybe, but it seems odd. This doesn't match up to what I experience, though I haven't done the data collection that the OP suggests he did.



Luckily, CCP records all this information for all fights, and so, they will know what's up.

What a derp, sounds like you need to look before crossing the street noob

I kept track of the reasons of death for 130 matches.
I died a total of 205 times.
It is as follows:
6% Spawn deaths
27% LLAV's
23% Free LAV's
15% Flaylock's
11% Assault rifles
11% Snipers
2% mysterious deaths (Deaths that I have no explanation towards, just died out of nowhere) + RDV's
5% other (Every other possible cause of death)

This is rounded up to make nice numbers.

My fit for all of these matches (I wanted to keep it consistant so I used one suit):
Assault gk.0
Duvolle AR
2x Complex damage mod
1x Enhanced damage mod
1x Basic Plate
1x Enhanced plate
2x Complex armor repairer
1x Nanohive
1x Proto AV Grenade

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I think some people seem to have missed the fact that your KD for these matches was less than 2 and that's pretty decent. Even in proto gear you probably turned a healthy profit.

Now, what would be more helpful statistics is if you charted the kills for every death on both sides of every battle over those 130 matches.

op is false, and he knows it.

Do you have proof other than "I am killed by something, everyone else must be killed by that thing the same amount!"

Because you can dodge 3 LAV's chasing you while having a fire fight with two people?
I tought so.

not proof, its just obvious these "stats" are false.

not proof, its just obvious these "stats" are false.

Whelp, believe what you want.
This is my record of my deaths in 130 matches, like it or not this shows the game is heavily flawed.

Nope, it shows you don't know how to cross the street, or how to take out LAVs.

How sad it is to be a lonely wolf and not work as a team, where one would be an AV with swarm launchers guarding the advancing infrantry.....

If only one person would be a dedicated AV instead of a bunch of people carrying granades, i wonder what would happen to dust karters.

Perhaps we-¦ll never know.

so basically u want ppl to stop using LAV's so u can bust out ur sniper fit n go 10+/0 every match... hmm...

anyways, here's a little tip from a noob... those things that look like jacks were put there for vehicle defense... utilize them...

Pfft, IRL I have regenerating 9 lives, so I am immortal.
This game puts me in the boots of a human.
Damn humans.

Already tried that.
LLAV's eat swarms for breakfast.

They eat dedicated 3x complex mods, proximity explosive, AV granaded players that investes in av skills, to the point where don-¦t even flinch or have to retreat?

Or resist 2 free anti armor fits at once?

I must say i find this very very hard to believe. (I have a full AV fit that brings down tanks)

I use 3x Complex Damage mods on my AV fit.
I know not to cheap out on AV fits, I was half dedicated AV last build so I know how much effort it takes to take down a tank.

"15% Flaylock's
11% Assault rifles"

I don't believe that even in the slightest.

Aye but I meant as a seperate entity.
Suprises me, I typically see a fair amount of deaths by them in games.

You really need to look both ways before crossing the street. FYI prox mines are your friend.

Whelp, believe what you want.
This is my record of my deaths in 130 matches, like it or not this shows the game is heavily flawed.

"15% Flaylock's
11% Assault rifles"

I don't believe that even in the slightest.

It doesn't show anything of the sort.

If you want to demonstrate that, you need to transcribe the killfeed for a while, not your own personal deaths (assuming this is accurate, i still have my doubts).

Assuming these data to be accurate, all it shows is how you fight. It seems you get run over a lot. This isn't an indictment on the game, moreso your playstyle.

This is one of the data points that I think points to falsified data. Either that or a very odd death profile. Either way, these data have nothing to say about the game at large because of this.

It seems you get run over a lot. This isn't an indictment on the game, moreso your playstyle.

This... 130 matches would give around 1000 data points if the entire kill feed was taken. That's enough to get a decent average.

Don't believe it.
AR isn't a problem for me as I tend to stay far away and only engage when I see a clear oppurtunity.
However, people tend to sneak up on me with the flaylock and kill me faster than I can turn to their way.
Are you EU or US?

I am US.

What my typical game of DUST looks like these days

I recorded deaths from the Kill feed Just before the TAR nerf. The data is a bit old, but it is interesting to see the fall of the TAR and the Rise of the FP.
Kills across 7 matches:
-AR --269
-TAR --143
-Scrambler Rifle --37
Assault ScR -- 20
MD --13
SG --19
SMG --56
sPistol--11
Snipe--110
Vehicle--80
Vehicle turrets -- 24
Lasers -- 1
Flalock pistol-- 4
grenade -- 33
remote explosives --2
AntiVehicle --57
nova Knife -- 8
HMG --59


The TAR isn't used as much now, did those numbers get moved to the FP?

No, his numbers are skewed. TAR users aren't FP users. Most of the MD users have moved to FP though, and probably many of the SG users. I think most of the TAR users went to AR or SR.

These numbers seem much more like what I still see minus the TAR kills.


Also, we haven't discussed game mode have we? I play exclusively (or almost) skirmish.

Most of this makes sense, your armor tanking so explosives will do more, you don't have any kin cats and your losing speed from armor plates so being run over is a problem, but please explain to me how you get killed by free LAV's that much with proto AV nades.....

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I don't think I've even had an LAV death in about a month. I really can't remember the last time.

Then again my main occupation is Forge Guns. Getting a read on their movement patterns and the general behaviour of the drivers is a large part of being able to make longer shots at more awkward angles. That insight no doubt helps in their avoidance outside of a heavy suit, too.

Had a near thing one game where I baited an LLAV that was being a tricky customer into running me down. Shot the driver out at the last moment with a Breach Scrambler headshot then made an ungainly dive out of the derelict vehicle's path. Was surprised it even worked. Good round, I enjoyed his ride. Even ran him down with it once. Charybdis with whatever modules he had on it, disregards Swarm Launchers, acquires roadkills. Crazy stuff. Had a tearful parting as I left it parked behind the enemy redline a minute before the match's end.

I kept track of the reasons of death for 130 matches.
I died a total of 205 times.
It is as follows:
6% Spawn deaths
27% LLAV's
23% Free LAV's
15% Flaylock's
11% Assault rifles
11% Snipers
2% mysterious deaths (Deaths that I have no explanation towards, just died out of nowhere) + RDV's
5% other (Every other possible cause of death)

This is rounded up to make nice numbers.

My fit for all of these matches (I wanted to keep it consistant so I used one suit):
Assault gk.0
Duvolle AR
2x Complex damage mod
1x Enhanced damage mod
1x Basic Plate
1x Enhanced plate
2x Complex armor repairer
1x Nanohive
1x Proto AV Grenade

Pie chart using accurate numbers coming Soon(TM)

Edit:
Ze glorious and awesomesauce pie chart

What would be really cool to see is taking video of 100 matches, and counting everything in the kill feed.

However.. pub matches are a really bad metric to balance from. PC matches are where weapon balancing really should take place.

I hope CCP has a way of distinguishing weapon performance in PC vs IB... ill bet the metrics look completely different.