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Buster Friently
Rosen Association
816
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Posted - 2013.06.30 17:34:00 -
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Provolonee wrote:I recorded deaths from the Kill feed Just before the TAR nerf. The data is a bit old, but it is interesting to see the fall of the TAR and the Rise of the FP. Kills across 7 matches: -AR --269 -TAR --143 -Scrambler Rifle --37 Assault ScR -- 20 MD --13 SG --19 SMG --56 sPistol--11 Snipe--110 Vehicle--80 Vehicle turrets -- 24 Lasers -- 1 Flalock pistol-- 4 grenade -- 33 remote explosives --2 AntiVehicle --57 nova Knife -- 8 HMG --59
The TAR isn't used as much now, did those numbers get moved to the FP?
No, his numbers are skewed. TAR users aren't FP users. Most of the MD users have moved to FP though. I think most of the TAR users went to AR or SR.
These numbers seem much more like what I still see minus the TAR kills. |
Azura Sakura
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
159
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Posted - 2013.06.30 17:37:00 -
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I think I'm the only dude on this forum that is a grenade magnet :( |
Cat Merc
Oculus Felis
1329
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Posted - 2013.06.30 18:05:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote:Provolonee wrote:I recorded deaths from the Kill feed Just before the TAR nerf. The data is a bit old, but it is interesting to see the fall of the TAR and the Rise of the FP. Kills across 7 matches: -AR --269 -TAR --143 -Scrambler Rifle --37 Assault ScR -- 20 MD --13 SG --19 SMG --56 sPistol--11 Snipe--110 Vehicle--80 Vehicle turrets -- 24 Lasers -- 1 Flalock pistol-- 4 grenade -- 33 remote explosives --2 AntiVehicle --57 nova Knife -- 8 HMG --59
The TAR isn't used as much now, did those numbers get moved to the FP? No, his numbers are skewed. TAR users aren't FP users. Most of the MD users have moved to FP though, and probably many of the SG users. I think most of the TAR users went to AR or SR. These numbers seem much more like what I still see minus the TAR kills. Also, we haven't discussed game mode have we? I play exclusively (or almost) skirmish. This was all from ambush for consistancy. And don't go around claiming my numbers are skewed if you don't have proof, because they aren't. |
Skipper Jones
Red Star. EoN.
190
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Posted - 2013.06.30 18:09:00 -
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I'm so proud of myself . I'm in the other percentile. Scrambler rifle user
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VicBoss
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
299
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Posted - 2013.06.30 18:11:00 -
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Most of this makes sense, your armor tanking so explosives will do more, you don't have any kin cats and your losing speed from armor plates so being run over is a problem, but please explain to me how you get killed by free LAV's that much with proto AV nades..... |
Cat Merc
Oculus Felis
1330
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Posted - 2013.06.30 18:35:00 -
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VicBoss wrote:Most of this makes sense, your armor tanking so explosives will do more, you don't have any kin cats and your losing speed from armor plates so being run over is a problem, but please explain to me how you get killed by free LAV's that much with proto AV nades..... Most of them kill me when I'm focused on an enemy. Even then, it takes 2 to destroy an LAV. |
Disturbingly Bored
The Strontium Asylum
323
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Posted - 2013.06.30 18:56:00 -
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First of all, you're doing SOONGäó wrong. You added it the same day you posted. You're supposed to say you'll do it and then only stealth edit the pie chart in six months after everyone else stopped caring.
Second of all, +1 for collecting the data. This thread is full of a dozen lazy ass critics who won't hesitate to rip at some small corner of your methods apart rather than do the effort of "proving you wrong" themselves.
Third of all, I'm going to start recording my deaths to see if I can prove you wrong myself. (Unless anyone can think of an easy way to record all match deaths without a video ripper.) |
Rupture Reaperson
Deadly Blue Dots RISE of LEGION
197
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Posted - 2013.06.30 19:04:00 -
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Murder taxis? Dunno what you are talking about I only see bumblebees getting eaten up by the wrymkomi beast. Reaping them profits. |
leafblades
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
10
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Posted - 2013.06.30 19:13:00 -
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Poplo Furuya wrote:I don't think I've even had an LAV death in about a month. I really can't remember the last time.
Then again my main occupation is Forge Guns. Getting a read on their movement patterns and the general behaviour of the drivers is a large part of being able to make longer shots at more awkward angles. That insight no doubt helps in their avoidance outside of a heavy suit, too.
Had a near thing one game where I baited an LLAV that was being a tricky customer into running me down. Shot the driver out at the last moment with a Breach Scrambler headshot then made an ungainly dive out of the derelict vehicle's path. Was surprised it even worked. Good round, I enjoyed his ride. Even ran him down with it once. Charybdis with whatever modules he had on it, disregards Swarm Launchers, acquires roadkills. Crazy stuff. Had a tearful parting as I left it parked behind the enemy redline a minute before the match's end.
You should be able to despawn vehicles you capture from the enemy, and put them in your assets. Nevermind ever being able to use them again, i think that'd just be really cool. |
Kevlar Waffles
Expert Intervention Caldari State
27
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Posted - 2013.06.30 19:24:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:I kept track of the reasons of death for 130 matches. I died a total of 205 times. It is as follows: 6% Spawn deaths 27% LLAV's 23% Free LAV's 15% Flaylock's 11% Assault rifles 11% Snipers 2% mysterious deaths (Deaths that I have no explanation towards, just died out of nowhere) + RDV's 5% other (Every other possible cause of death) This is rounded up to make nice numbers. My fit for all of these matches (I wanted to keep it consistant so I used one suit): Assault gk.0 Duvolle AR 2x Complex damage mod 1x Enhanced damage mod 1x Basic Plate 1x Enhanced plate 2x Complex armor repairer 1x Nanohive 1x Proto AV Grenade Pie chart using accurate numbers coming Soon(TM) Edit: Ze glorious and awesomesauce pie chart i prop you for actually taking the time for this, it looks time consuming |
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Poonmunch
Sand Mercenary Corps Inc. Interstellar Conquest Enterprises
17
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Posted - 2013.06.30 19:32:00 -
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Isn't there a weapon "Leader Board" someplace in the game home screen?
If not, there should be.
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Xocoyol Zaraoul
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
422
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Posted - 2013.06.30 19:36:00 -
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How the Kitten does everyone get run over so much O_o
I'm going to now make a spreadsheet and track mine too out of curiosity, I might surprise myself. |
Provolonee
Undefined Risk DARKSTAR ARMY
6
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Posted - 2013.06.30 19:50:00 -
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I wish CCP would share this information with us. If there ever is an economy in this game, it would be nice to see what weapon types are of value. Using the kill feed means you have a recording device, or are not fighting.
Using Killed by screen only shows what your personal weaknesses are. Which does not reflect weapon balance, but what is the paper to your rock.
-In Cat Mercs case, The data shows me that HE has problems engaging enemys in the middle of the road, and explosives do alot of damage to his tanking. While his fitting holds up well against AR's and scrambler rifles.
-I use a slow moving logi Gk.0. and I am road kill maybe once a week. I do share the same weakness to the FP, and stray grenades. Its pretty much instant death from those sources.
CCP has the data, let us see it. |
DJINN leukoplast
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
538
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Posted - 2013.06.30 20:23:00 -
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Good stuff Cat, that about looks like the percentages of where my deaths come from as well.
Think I may do this too for about 100 matches, seems like a fun experiment |
Sleepy Shadow
L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION
27
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Posted - 2013.06.30 23:00:00 -
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I am so going to do this as well. I want my own pie chart! |
ZDub 303
TeamPlayers EoN.
536
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Posted - 2013.06.30 23:28:00 -
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What would be really cool to see is taking video of 100 matches, and counting everything in the kill feed.
However.. pub matches are a really bad metric to balance from. PC matches are where weapon balancing really should take place.
I hope CCP has a way of distinguishing weapon performance in PC vs IB... ill bet the metrics look completely different. |
Cat Merc
Oculus Felis
1347
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Posted - 2013.06.30 23:32:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:What would be really cool to see is taking video of 100 matches, and counting everything in the kill feed.
However.. pub matches are a really bad metric to balance from. PC matches are where weapon balancing really should take place.
I hope CCP has a way of distinguishing weapon performance in PC vs IB... ill bet the metrics look completely different. Duvolle AR all the way! |
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