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Cat Merc Oculus Felis 1306	Posted - 2013.06.30 13:25:00 - [61] - Quote sammus420 wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Whelp, believe what you want. This is my record of my deaths in 130 matches, like it or not this shows the game is heavily flawed. Nope, it shows you don't know how to cross the street, or how to take out LAVs. 3x Complex Proto AV, I always carry those with me. Please tell me how am I supposed to take out an LLAV that if I am lucky enough to get all of my Proto AV hit him, he still has plenty of shields and armor. And I know how to cross a road, because I wouldn't be talking here if I didn't, I would be either in a coffin or in the hospital >_>
Deltahawk Durango DUST University Ivy League 7	Posted - 2013.06.30 13:42:00 - [62] - Quote so basically u want ppl to stop using LAV's so u can bust out ur sniper fit n go 10+/0 every match... hmm... anyways, here's a little tip from a noob... those things that look like jacks were put there for vehicle defense... utilize them...
Natu Nobilis BetaMax Beta CRONOS. 402	Posted - 2013.06.30 13:43:00 - [63] - Quote How sad it is to be a lonely wolf and not work as a team, where one would be an AV with swarm launchers guarding the advancing infrantry..... If only one person would be a dedicated AV instead of a bunch of people carrying granades, i wonder what would happen to dust karters. Perhaps we-¦ll never know.
Cat Merc Oculus Felis 1306	Posted - 2013.06.30 13:44:00 - [64] - Quote Natu Nobilis wrote: How sad it is to be a lonely wolf and not work as a team, where one would be an AV with swarm launchers guarding the advancing infrantry..... If only one person would be a dedicated AV instead of a bunch of people carrying granades, i wonder what would happen to dust karters. Perhaps we-¦ll never know. Already tried that. LLAV's eat swarms for breakfast.
Poplo Furuya Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 112	Posted - 2013.06.30 13:46:00 - [65] - Quote Deltahawk Durango wrote: so basically u want ppl to stop using LAV's so u can bust out ur sniper fit n go 10+/0 every match... hmm... anyways, here's a little tip from a noob... those things that look like jacks were put there for vehicle defense... utilize them... Right, because OP is clearly a sniper and snipers in the hills and on rooftops are the most at threat from LAVs. Nice ad hominem.
Logi Stician The Vanguardians 2	Posted - 2013.06.30 13:48:00 - [66] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: DumpsterJuice wrote: What a derp, sounds like you need to look before crossing the street noob Pfft, IRL I have regenerating 9 lives, so I am immortal. This game puts me in the boots of a human. Damn humans. Puss in boots?
Banning Hammer Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 88	Posted - 2013.06.30 13:54:00 - [67] - Quote I don't think those stats are very accurate ...except for LAV's that kills me about 4 times per match ( 40% - 50% ) all the other times are very random... a huge variety of ways to die; - Grenades - Snipers - HMG - AR - SCR -Turrets - Pistols - Forge Guns - MD - tanks And so on .... So i say is more like; 50% LAV's - 50% random death.
Natu Nobilis BetaMax Beta CRONOS. 402	Posted - 2013.06.30 14:02:00 - [68] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Natu Nobilis wrote: How sad it is to be a lonely wolf and not work as a team, where one would be an AV with swarm launchers guarding the advancing infrantry..... If only one person would be a dedicated AV instead of a bunch of people carrying granades, i wonder what would happen to dust karters. Perhaps we-¦ll never know. Already tried that. LLAV's eat swarms for breakfast. They eat dedicated 3x complex mods, proximity explosive, AV granaded players that investes in av skills, to the point where don-¦t even flinch or have to retreat? Or resist 2 free anti armor fits at once? I must say i find this very very hard to believe. (I have a full AV fit that brings down tanks)
Cat Merc Oculus Felis 1308	Posted - 2013.06.30 14:05:00 - [69] - Quote Natu Nobilis wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Natu Nobilis wrote: How sad it is to be a lonely wolf and not work as a team, where one would be an AV with swarm launchers guarding the advancing infrantry..... If only one person would be a dedicated AV instead of a bunch of people carrying granades, i wonder what would happen to dust karters. Perhaps we-¦ll never know. Already tried that. LLAV's eat swarms for breakfast. They eat dedicated 3x complex mods, proximity explosive, AV granaded players that investes in av skills, to the point where don-¦t even flinch or have to retreat? Or resist 2 free anti armor fits at once? I must say i find this very very hard to believe. (I have a full AV fit that brings down tanks) I use 3x Complex Damage mods on my AV fit. I know not to cheap out on AV fits, I was half dedicated AV last build so I know how much effort it takes to take down a tank.
Henchmen21 Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic 16	Posted - 2013.06.30 14:09:00 - [70] - Quote You really need to look both ways before crossing the street. FYI prox mines are your friend.

Natu Nobilis BetaMax Beta CRONOS. 402	Posted - 2013.06.30 14:11:00 - [71] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Natu Nobilis wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Natu Nobilis wrote: How sad it is to be a lonely wolf and not work as a team, where one would be an AV with swarm launchers guarding the advancing infrantry..... If only one person would be a dedicated AV instead of a bunch of people carrying granades, i wonder what would happen to dust karters. Perhaps we-¦ll never know. Already tried that. LLAV's eat swarms for breakfast. They eat dedicated 3x complex mods, proximity explosive, AV granaded players that investes in av skills, to the point where don-¦t even flinch or have to retreat? Or resist 2 free anti armor fits at once? I must say i find this very very hard to believe. (I have a full AV fit that brings down tanks) I use 3x Complex Damage mods on my AV fit. I know not to cheap out on AV fits, I was half dedicated AV last build so I know how much effort it takes to take down a tank. The main point is, if there-¦s a mario kart going on, and the crushed team didnt deploy 5 free av guys, the team sux. Adaptability, bring more av until they stop the kart killing, when they do, change fitting. I love to see people loosing expensive vehicles once, twice, than giving up and going back on foot.
Sgt Buttscratch G I A N T EoN. 266	Posted - 2013.06.30 14:22:00 - [72] - Quote Thanks for the pie charts, posts are numb and pointless without them. In reality this is ******. I dont mind the LLAV deaths, they have been skilled into and actually cost money(not enought IMO), even tho this murdertaxi BS got old fast. The bad part is the free LAV's and the flaylock for me, ones free, ones cheap. both need adressing.
Reimus Klinsman BetaMax. CRONOS. 337	Posted - 2013.06.30 14:51:00 - [73] - Quote LAVs need to have a 'chance to kill' attribute. If luck is on the runners side, then just get thrown over the hood of the car. Militia varients have a very low chance, LAVs have a higher chance. Speed still needs to be a factor, and smashing someone against a wall should always be a kill.
Son-Of A-Gun 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 60	Posted - 2013.06.30 15:50:00 - [74] - Quote "15% Flaylock's 11% Assault rifles" I don't believe that even in the slightest.
Cat Merc Oculus Felis 1319	Posted - 2013.06.30 16:00:00 - [75] - Quote Son-Of A-Gun wrote: "15% Flaylock's 11% Assault rifles" I don't believe that even in the slightest. You're a Caldari. Of course you won't.
DeadlyAztec11 Max-Pain-inc 605	Posted - 2013.06.30 16:02:00 - [76] - Quote Spademan wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Spademan wrote: Scrambler rifle aint up there? Fo' realsies? yup It's among the "other" Aye but I meant as a seperate entity. Suprises me, I typically see a fair amount of deaths by them in games. I have only been killed twice by it, since Chromosome.
ZDub 303 TeamPlayers EoN. 531	Posted - 2013.06.30 16:16:00 - [77] - Quote Henchmen21 wrote: You really need to look both ways before crossing the street. FYI prox mines are your friend. Proxi mines are worthless if the lav is moving... Same with AV nades. It's not the health on LAVs that's the problem, its the fact that av weapons have absolutely no hit detection against them... Its like they move too fast for the server to calculate appropriate damage.
Croned C0NTRA UNIT 13	Posted - 2013.06.30 16:29:00 - [78] - Quote Just squad up with several other people and have all of you weild swarm launchers. Every enemy vehicle in the battle will be struggling to survive, even 10,000 armor tanks (blaster/railgun installations have 30k armor, yet they are a piece of cake to take out). I can guarantee you that your squad will get AT LEAST one Precision Strike (most likely more if you all get the assists). And bring nanohives.
Buster Friently Rosen Association 815	Posted - 2013.06.30 16:39:00 - [79] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Jin Robot wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Jin Robot wrote: op is false, and he knows it. Do you have proof other than "I am killed by something, everyone else must be killed by that thing the same amount!" not proof, its just obvious these "stats" are false. Whelp, believe what you want. This is my record of my deaths in 130 matches, like it or not this shows the game is heavily flawed. It doesn't show anything of the sort. If you want to demonstrate that, you need to transcribe the killfeed for a while, not your own personal deaths (assuming this is accurate, i still have my doubts). Assuming these data to be accurate, all it shows is how you fight. It seems you get run over a lot. This isn't an indictment on the game, moreso your playstyle.
Buster Friently Rosen Association 815	Posted - 2013.06.30 16:41:00 - [80] - Quote Son-Of A-Gun wrote: "15% Flaylock's 11% Assault rifles" I don't believe that even in the slightest. This is one of the data points that I think points to falsified data. Either that or a very odd death profile. Either way, these data have nothing to say about the game at large because of this.

ZDub 303 TeamPlayers EoN. 532	Posted - 2013.06.30 16:49:00 - [81] - Quote Buster Friently wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Jin Robot wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Jin Robot wrote: op is false, and he knows it. Do you have proof other than "I am killed by something, everyone else must be killed by that thing the same amount!" not proof, its just obvious these "stats" are false. Whelp, believe what you want. This is my record of my deaths in 130 matches, like it or not this shows the game is heavily flawed. It doesn't show anything of the sort. If you want to demonstrate that, you need to transcribe the killfeed for a while, not your own personal deaths (assuming this is accurate, i still have my doubts). Assuming these data to be accurate, all it shows is how you fight. It seems you get run over a lot. This isn't an indictment on the game, moreso your playstyle. This... 130 matches would give around 1000 data points if the entire kill feed was taken. That's enough to get a decent average.
Cat Merc Oculus Felis 1324	Posted - 2013.06.30 16:49:00 - [82] - Quote Buster Friently wrote: Son-Of A-Gun wrote: "15% Flaylock's 11% Assault rifles" I don't believe that even in the slightest. This is one of the data points that I think points to falsified data. Either that or a very odd death profile. Either way, these data have nothing to say about the game at large because of this. Don't believe it. AR isn't a problem for me as I tend to stay far away and only engage when I see a clear oppurtunity. However, people tend to sneak up on me with the flaylock and kill me faster than I can turn to their way. Are you EU or US?
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 4206	Posted - 2013.06.30 16:49:00 - [83] - Quote Buster Friently wrote: It seems you get run over a lot. This isn't an indictment on the game, moreso your playstyle. What my typical game of DUST looks like these days
Cat Merc Oculus Felis 1324	Posted - 2013.06.30 16:50:00 - [84] - Quote ZDub 303 wrote: This... 130 matches would give around 1000 data points if the entire kill feed was taken. That's enough to get a decent average. You know what? I will work on it as soon as I get a capture device. I was planning on getting one anyway. Once I have all the data I will compile it.
Cat Merc Oculus Felis 1324	Posted - 2013.06.30 16:54:00 - [85] - Quote Just to put it into prespective. The flaylock can fire off two shots very quickly. My proto Gallente suit dies from two splash shots if the user has any damage skills put into the weapon. Otherwise its three shots. I usually only have enough time to turn around to face the person before I die.
Buster Friently Rosen Association 816	Posted - 2013.06.30 17:00:00 - [86] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Buster Friently wrote: Son-Of A-Gun wrote: "15% Flaylock's 11% Assault rifles" I don't believe that even in the slightest. This is one of the data points that I think points to falsified data. Either that or a very odd death profile. Either way, these data have nothing to say about the game at large because of this. Don't believe it. AR isn't a problem for me as I tend to stay far away and only engage when I see a clear oppurtunity. However, people tend to sneak up on me with the flaylock and kill me faster than I can turn to their way. Are you EU or US? I am US.
Cat Merc Oculus Felis 1325	Posted - 2013.06.30 17:01:00 - [87] - Quote Buster Friently wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Buster Friently wrote: Son-Of A-Gun wrote: "15% Flaylock's 11% Assault rifles" I don't believe that even in the slightest. This is one of the data points that I think points to falsified data. Either that or a very odd death profile. Either way, these data have nothing to say about the game at large because of this. Don't believe it. AR isn't a problem for me as I tend to stay far away and only engage when I see a clear oppurtunity. However, people tend to sneak up on me with the flaylock and kill me faster than I can turn to their way. Are you EU or US? I am US. Then this might be the problem. I am EU, it is very possible that the people in the EU servers use Flaylocks more than the US.
Banning Hammer Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 91	Posted - 2013.06.30 17:06:00 - [88] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Buster Friently wrote: It seems you get run over a lot. This isn't an indictment on the game, moreso your playstyle. What my typical game of DUST looks like these days Its funny because is true... I spend 10 minutes in every battle doing the " Dance of death " with LAV's ; Right, right, left, right. right, left... cha cha cha...left, right.. lalala la la la...and..... die.
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 442	Posted - 2013.06.30 17:20:00 - [89] - Quote If I had to guess the percentages of my deaths, I'd say that they were mostly due to snipers and HMGs, followed by ARs then Suicide Prox (hehe, no kill for the dead murdertaxi) then everything else, Some matches there is a spike in something else, but overall, I'd say that the above is a fairly consistent breakdown.
Provolonee Undefined Risk DARKSTAR ARMY 4	Posted - 2013.06.30 17:23:00 - [90] - Quote I recorded deaths from the Kill feed Just before the TAR nerf. The data is a bit old, but it is interesting to see the fall of the TAR and the Rise of the FP. Kills across 7 matches: -AR --269 -TAR --143 -Scrambler Rifle --37 Assault ScR -- 20 MD --13 SG --19 SMG --56 sPistol--11 Snipe--110 Vehicle--80 Vehicle turrets -- 24 Lasers -- 1 Flalock pistol-- 4 grenade -- 33 remote explosives --2 AntiVehicle --57 nova Knife -- 8 HMG --59 The TAR isn't used as much now, did those numbers get moved to the FP?



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