DUST Search - This game requires no talent.

GET ATMESON wrote:

Asher Night wrote:

So let me run you through a pretty typical game.

Run to objective.
Cap it.
Run to next objective
Run into enemy
Engage en -- Instakilled by him immediately chucking a fuse grenade before he even attempts to fire a single bullet.

Proceed to any objective.
Avoid LAV trying to run me over
Avoid same LAV trying to run me over
Avoid same LAV trying to run me over
LAV gets tired and drives off
Start hacking objective
Get forge gunned from Mt. Everest.

Go to objective again
Get ran over by LAV that can be right next to me and not show up on the radar

Flank to furthest objective
Start hacking
Get sniped from MCC

Try very hard to stick with team (my corp or randoms)
Excruciatingly hop up half a hill.
Run out of stamina
Wait for stamina to recharge
Hop the rest the way up the hill my 85 year old grandmother could walk up without stopping
See enemy
Engage en -- ran over by different LAV that drove up the hill.

Stick with team again.
Engage enemy who is completely defenseless firing rockets at vehicles
Get instakilled by his explode on contact grenade

Go to objective that has no fighting whatsoever.
Avoid LAV trying to run me over for 5 minutes
Get to objective
Hack objective
Almost get in shoot out with enemy
Get stuck on random, non-existent invisible debris
Get Sniped, forgegunned, grenaded, ran over, and urinated on.

How was I outskilled by some scrub chucking an instant exploding grenade? How was I outskilled by some scrub on top of a building so high he takes up two pixels on my screen and only knows I'm there to fire on because he sees the objective flash? How was I outskilled by some coward who didn't even have to leave the safety of his spaceship to snipe me while I try to help the team? How was I outskilled by multiple LAV drivers all hauling ass around the map not showing up on radar?

Saying any of those people have skill is like saying an airplane falling onto your house all of a sudden and killing you, outskilled you. Every time I see someone chucking those fuse grenades they have insane KDR's - but this is mostly an objective based game where you have to be within grenades distance while capturing anything from the enemy, so it's basically a damn playground for any one running those grenades and nanohives.

This game requires no talent to excel at. You would think in this first person shooter, you would actually SEE people first person shooting.

1) Drastically decrease the collision damage from vehicles. I don't give a **** if that's unrealistic - it's a damn space suit in 30,000 years from now, it should absorb impact damage better than that anyway. Decrease fall damage while you're at it.

2) Implement some kind of toxic radiation/self destruct for people who sit in the MCC for too long. You'll kick players for not spawning and fullfilling their 'contractual obligation', so why not kill them for not going to engage the enemy and capture the objectives necessary for your side to win and make money?

3) Take out that stupid ass grenade. What the hell were you all thinking? How did it possibly seem like a good way to enhance the FPS or core mechanics of this game?

4) I'm all for snipers/forgegunners having their perches, but keep it within limits. No game lets snipers be SO up high and away from combat. I've never seen a game that pandered so much to long distance warfare.

OR

4) Put all the objectives in some kind of enclosed area that you have to actually be in to kill anyone capping it. Snipers should be allowed to watch the area, sure, but having a direct eye on the objective from so incredibly far away is ridiculous. No game does this, and for good reason.

This game is a joke right now, and I can't imagine any major league gamer, who gets sponsored and paid based off their talent for skilled gameplay, ever considering adding it to his repertoire.

EDIT: I'm willing to bet anyone who does well in this game with these tactics has never had a KDR in any other FPS that's even remotely as good as their KDR in this game. The only people who defend this crap and actually don't want any of this fixed are just trying to cling onto the only thing they've ever experienced that let's them do well in a competitive online game. So here's a challenge: Anyone who really thinks all of this is fine the way it is - upload a screenshot of your stats from any other FPS including what weapons you usually use, and your KDR/stats in this game.

EDIT: Comprehend what I just said. I did not say I have a better KDR in other games than you. I did not say you have an awful KDR in every game but this one. What I said was - If you use and defend these tactics, I bet your KDR is notably higher in this game than other FPS's and it's not because you are good. It's because you exploit these scrubby tactics.

Sounds like someone is a baby. Try a PC match if you dont like pub. What a baby.
Get AV stuff for LAV's
Learn to kill some.
Most of all QQ. Learn not to die so much you baby


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Operative 1171 Aajli D3LTA ACADEMY Inver Brass 45	Posted - 2013.07.07 23:47:00 - [1] - Quote You say all these things but see how all it does is bring out the epeening fanbois. I think I can state the whole thing better: -CCP is a company. -They want money for making games they say are fun and "groundbreaking". -They proceed to take your cash for "cool" aurum items. -Otherwise, they give you free stuff in hopes you will want to spend real money for said "cool" items. -They say they will fix things but don't seem to know how to do that. -They get some cash from said game. -They funnel said cash into their important game title and into their next "groundbreaking" game. -They sit back and laugh whilst counting the money. -They wonder why they aren't making any more money than before. -They ponder and write a public apology from CEO. -They get motivated again and make excuses about how they can make things better with the whole player base by hiring the few or one person who least represents the playerbase. -Fanbois rejoice. Their game intact just as they want it to be only because that is what it is and not because of any real game balance. Whew! I give it a year tops.
Operative 1171 Aajli D3LTA ACADEMY Inver Brass 45	Posted - 2013.07.07 23:51:00 - [2] - Quote GET ATMESON wrote: Asher Night wrote: So let me run you through a pretty typical game. Run to objective. Cap it. Run to next objective Run into enemy Engage en -- Instakilled by him immediately chucking a fuse grenade before he even attempts to fire a single bullet. Proceed to any objective. Avoid LAV trying to run me over Avoid same LAV trying to run me over Avoid same LAV trying to run me over LAV gets tired and drives off Start hacking objective Get forge gunned from Mt. Everest. Go to objective again Get ran over by LAV that can be right next to me and not show up on the radar Flank to furthest objective Start hacking Get sniped from MCC Try very hard to stick with team (my corp or randoms) Excruciatingly hop up half a hill. Run out of stamina Wait for stamina to recharge Hop the rest the way up the hill my 85 year old grandmother could walk up without stopping See enemy Engage en -- ran over by different LAV that drove up the hill. Stick with team again. Engage enemy who is completely defenseless firing rockets at vehicles Get instakilled by his explode on contact grenade Go to objective that has no fighting whatsoever. Avoid LAV trying to run me over for 5 minutes Get to objective Hack objective Almost get in shoot out with enemy Get stuck on random, non-existent invisible debris Get Sniped, forgegunned, grenaded, ran over, and urinated on. How was I outskilled by some scrub chucking an instant exploding grenade? How was I outskilled by some scrub on top of a building so high he takes up two pixels on my screen and only knows I'm there to fire on because he sees the objective flash? How was I outskilled by some coward who didn't even have to leave the safety of his spaceship to snipe me while I try to help the team? How was I outskilled by multiple LAV drivers all hauling ass around the map not showing up on radar? Saying any of those people have skill is like saying an airplane falling onto your house all of a sudden and killing you, outskilled you. Every time I see someone chucking those fuse grenades they have insane KDR's - but this is mostly an objective based game where you have to be within grenades distance while capturing anything from the enemy, so it's basically a damn playground for any one running those grenades and nanohives. This game requires no talent to excel at. You would think in this first person shooter, you would actually SEE people first person shooting. 1) Drastically decrease the collision damage from vehicles. I don't give a ** if that's unrealistic - it's a damn space suit in 30,000 years from now, it should absorb impact damage better than that anyway. Decrease fall damage while you're at it. 2) Implement some kind of toxic radiation/self destruct for people who sit in the MCC for too long. You'll kick players for not spawning and fullfilling their 'contractual obligation', so why not kill them for not going to engage the enemy and capture the objectives necessary for your side to win and make money? 3) Take out that stupid ass grenade. What the hell were you all thinking? How did it possibly seem like a good way to enhance the FPS or core mechanics of this game? 4) I'm all for snipers/forgegunners having their perches, but keep it within limits. No game lets snipers be SO up high and away from combat. I've never seen a game that pandered so much to long distance warfare. OR 4) Put all the objectives in some kind of enclosed area that you have to actually be in to kill anyone capping it. Snipers should be allowed to watch the area, sure, but having a direct eye on the objective from so incredibly far away is ridiculous. No game does this, and for good reason. This game is a joke right now, and I can't imagine any major league gamer, who gets sponsored and paid based off their talent for skilled gameplay, ever considering adding it to his repertoire. EDIT: I'm willing to bet anyone who does well in this game with these tactics has never had a KDR in any other FPS that's even remotely as good as their KDR in this game. The only people who defend this crap and actually don't want any of this fixed are just trying to cling onto the only thing they've ever experienced that let's them do well in a competitive online game. So here's a challenge: Anyone who really thinks all of this is fine the way it is - upload a screenshot of your stats from any other FPS including what weapons you usually use, and your KDR/stats in this game. EDIT: Comprehend what I just said. I did not say I have a better KDR in other games than you. I did not say you have an awful KDR in every game but this one. What I said was - If you use and defend these tactics, I bet your KDR is notably higher in this game than other FPS's and it's not because you are good. It's because you exploit these scrubby tactics. Sounds like someone is a baby. Try a PC match if you dont like pub. What a baby. Get AV stuff for LAV's Learn to kill some. Most of all QQ. Learn not to die so much you baby** Funny isn't it how the children start name calling about gameplay as the adults start making observations about the quality of a product and the concern for the company behind it. That's the kind of environment CCP fosters. They already did that with EVE. I left that game due to it being reduced to a bunch of epeening children.