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Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic ROFL BROS
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Posted - 2013.06.21 20:02:00 -
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Ted Nugget wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:Oh I get it, side arms should shoot marshmallows, silly me I am not saying the flaylock needs to be nerfed. I am asking why it is better than a missile from a turret. Not you, the others.
As for why it is better than the turrets, cause turrets suck, that's a problem.
There damage is similar, but small turrets have a .5 smaller blast radius since they lack a skill which increases it, and I'm pretty sure they also have a lower ROF, not to mention that shooting while on the move is next to impossible.
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Bones McGavins
TacoCat Industries
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Posted - 2013.06.21 20:03:00 -
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Core Flaylock is a bit OP, but its nothing compared to the scrambler. The difference is, the scrambler takes some skill to use but its way more deadly in the right hands. And if hit detection/aiming ever get better, good lord...
The reason Flaylocks feel OP at all is because you dont have to worry about aim/hit detection as much (still has issues with direct hits).
The one thing I will say is that all 3, MD, Flaylock and Nades have way better progression from meta levels than other guns. Other guns just get like 10% more damage per level. These weapons get even mroe damage but the big thing is, they get a massive radius boost too. So not only is the core flaylock much deadlier than the standard its also WAY easier to use.
Thats where CCP messed up, I think. Same with MD and nades. There shouldnt be a explosion radius increase between meta levels. All nades should have a radius of the standard, and MD and Flaylocks should all be about at the advanced radius. |
ER-Bullitt
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.06.21 20:03:00 -
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I already answered your question.
Flaylock is Infantry Only
Missile turret is not
That is why the flaylcok is more effecient at killing infantry.
The missile turret CAN hit infantry, but its hard.. because it is designed as an anti vehicle weapon. Easier to hit vehicles and large objects.
Is that really that hard to comprehend? or do you just want your tank to be godmode uber awesome at everything. |
Ted Nugget
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.06.21 20:03:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Ted Nugget wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:Oh I get it, side arms should shoot marshmallows, silly me I am not saying the flaylock needs to be nerfed. I am asking why it is better than a missile from a turret. Not you, the others. As for why it is better than the turrets, cause turrets suck, that's a problem. There damage is similar, but small turrets have a .5 smaller blast radius since they lack a skill which increases it, and I'm pretty sure they also have a lower ROF, not to mention that shooting while on the move is next to impossible.
All valid points bud |
Commander Tuna
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.06.21 20:03:00 -
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Ted Nugget wrote:Commander Tuna wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:Oh I get it, side arms should shoot marshmallows, silly me Didn't quite say that but if you think a pistol should out perform a grenade launcher, something is wrong there. Dude simply is a user of the cfp. As much as he defends it. When what was in question is the missile turret. Oh boy you see right through me -_- |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic ROFL BROS
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Posted - 2013.06.21 20:04:00 -
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Ted Nugget wrote:Commander Tuna wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:Oh I get it, side arms should shoot marshmallows, silly me Didn't quite say that but if you think a pistol should out perform a grenade launcher, something is wrong there. Dude simply is a user of the cfp. As much as he defends it. When what was in question is the missile turret. I'm defending it because you mentioned it and other people jumped on the chance to call it OP, and yes, I do use it, and I have about 1000 SP into it, and it still lacks the 1 shot capablities that people like kitten claim it does.
Would you not defend a 1000 SP investment? If I said missile turrets were OP, would you not argue against it? |
Ted Nugget
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.06.21 20:04:00 -
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ER-Bullitt wrote:I already answered your question.
Flaylock is Infantry Only
Missile turret is not
That is why the flaylcok is more effecient at killing infantry.
The missile turret CAN hit infantry, but its hard.. because it is designed as an anti vehicle weapon. Easier to hit vehicles and large objects.
Is that really that hard to comprehend? or do you just want your tank to be godmode uber awesome at everything.
Nah i just want my millions of sp invested into a tank that can actually kill infantry rather than him throw down a nano hive and throw av at me while im shooting at him to no result on my end
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Ted Nugget
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.06.21 20:07:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Ted Nugget wrote:Commander Tuna wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:Oh I get it, side arms should shoot marshmallows, silly me Didn't quite say that but if you think a pistol should out perform a grenade launcher, something is wrong there. Dude simply is a user of the cfp. As much as he defends it. When what was in question is the missile turret. I'm defending it because you mentioned it and other people jumped on the chance to call it OP, and yes, I do use it, and I have about 1000 SP into it, and it still lacks the 1 shot capablities that people like kitten claim it does. Would you not defend a 1000 SP investment? If I said missile turrets were OP, would you not argue against it?
I have 10 million sp into my tanks. Not all into weapons but a lot into weapons and enforcer tank. Which gives a boost to missile damage, which is still ****. If you said missile turrets would OP I would fall out from laughter and ask you what game you were playing. Should I not complaint that a handheld weapon that took according to you a fraction of the sp i have spent to get where i am and im useless to kill infantry and your not? |
Ted Nugget
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Posted - 2013.06.21 20:09:00 -
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As for direct hit damage sure it's good. You do not get direct hits on infantry as the first missile hits the mark while the others go all around it. So I depend on splash damage with such a poor hit rate. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic ROFL BROS
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Posted - 2013.06.21 20:09:00 -
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Ted Nugget wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:Ted Nugget wrote:Commander Tuna wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:Oh I get it, side arms should shoot marshmallows, silly me Didn't quite say that but if you think a pistol should out perform a grenade launcher, something is wrong there. Dude simply is a user of the cfp. As much as he defends it. When what was in question is the missile turret. I'm defending it because you mentioned it and other people jumped on the chance to call it OP, and yes, I do use it, and I have about 1000 SP into it, and it still lacks the 1 shot capablities that people like kitten claim it does. Would you not defend a 1000 SP investment? If I said missile turrets were OP, would you not argue against it? I have 10 million sp into my tanks. Not all into weapons but a lot into weapons and enforcer tank. Which gives a boost to missile damage, which is still ****. If you said missile turrets would OP I would fall out from laughter and ask you what game you were playing. Should I not complaint that a handheld weapon that took according to you a fraction of the sp i have spent to get where i am and im useless to kill infantry and your not?
Feel free to complain about the uselessness of turrets, I agree. I am simply disagreeing with people who claim the flaylock is OP. |
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Ted Nugget
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.06.21 20:10:00 -
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If all four missiles actually hit where I was aiming I wouldn't be here having this conversation bud |
Ted Nugget
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Posted - 2013.06.21 20:10:00 -
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as for range... a missile installation can shoot across the map, did you know that... my missile turrets are gimped on range too FTW |
Sloth9230
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Posted - 2013.06.21 20:12:00 -
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It would be like saying that scout suits are garbage, therefore everything else should be garbage. Ughh... no, just fix scout suits, or in this case, missile turrets. |
Ted Nugget
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Posted - 2013.06.21 20:13:00 -
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I agree, I am just using the flaylock as a reference because they fire the same type of ammo. I just knew that the topic flaylock would actually make people look. I guess it is my fault for a misleading topic |
Sloth9230
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Posted - 2013.06.21 20:14:00 -
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Ted Nugget wrote:If all four missiles actually hit where I was aiming I wouldn't be here having this conversation bud Then ask for that to be fixed, we wouldn't be having this conversation if you hadn't used flaylocks to supports your claim that turrets suck bud.
Missles not hitting sounds like a problem, why are you not asking for that to be fixed? Right now it just sounds like your venting.
And again, I agree that missile turrets need improvements. |
Ted Nugget
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Posted - 2013.06.21 20:17:00 -
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Ted Nugget wrote:Kitten Empress wrote:Because CCP hates armor, so they had to make a sidearm that one-two shots us with splash radius. The splash radius seems a bit overkill considering we're slow like heavies. Unlike a missile turret it actually goes where you aim. Something that hasn't been looked at or fixed since day one
read above... i have made this post more than once.. i just feel that ccp doesnt care |
Knight SoIaire
Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2013.06.21 20:18:00 -
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Because Missile Turrets are underpowered. |
Ted Nugget
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Posted - 2013.06.21 20:19:00 -
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I feel how missiles are we depend on splash damage to kill infantry since they are not fixing the accuracy problem. I think the damage of splash needs a buff if a handheld weapon can deal that much damage |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic ROFL BROS
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Posted - 2013.06.21 20:19:00 -
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Knight SoIaire wrote:Because Missile Turrets are underpowered. Hey, look, he gets it! |
I VOTED FOR-KODOS
Absentee AFK Regiment
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Posted - 2013.06.21 20:20:00 -
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Flaylock = classic example of every fps' n00b tube |
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Shijima Kuraimaru
WarRavens League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.06.21 20:31:00 -
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Luk Manag wrote:Turrets should be at least as good as infantry weapons. I can get out of my Sica and do more direct damage with my Forge Gun than I can with the Railgun. Same story for the Flaylock and missile turrets.
I've posted stats on two different threads. The forge gun may do more damage per shot than a rail turret, but the rail turret has the higher damage per second. |
Knight SoIaire
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Posted - 2013.06.21 20:32:00 -
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I VOTED FOR-KODOS wrote:Flaylock = classic example of every fps' n00b tube
Flaylock = Learn2Bunnyhopnub |
I VOTED FOR-KODOS
Absentee AFK Regiment
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Posted - 2013.06.21 20:35:00 -
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Knight SoIaire wrote:I VOTED FOR-KODOS wrote:Flaylock = classic example of every fps' n00b tube Flaylock = Learn2Bunnyhopnub You realize this retort has more holes in it than randy senorita at a tj donkey show |
poopchucker9900
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.06.21 20:37:00 -
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Poopchucker9900 approves and agrees with teds post. |
Ted Nugget
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.06.21 20:38:00 -
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I VOTED FOR-KODOS wrote:Knight SoIaire wrote:I VOTED FOR-KODOS wrote:Flaylock = classic example of every fps' n00b tube Flaylock = Learn2Bunnyhopnub You realize this retort has more holes in it than randy senorita at a tj donkey show
you saw the donkey show too? gotta love tj lol |
Knight SoIaire
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Posted - 2013.06.21 20:40:00 -
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I VOTED FOR-KODOS wrote:Knight SoIaire wrote:I VOTED FOR-KODOS wrote:Flaylock = classic example of every fps' n00b tube Flaylock = Learn2Bunnyhopnub You realize this retort has more holes in it than randy senorita at a tj donkey show
Uh...eh...
What now? |
KING SALASI
MAJOR DISTRIBUTION
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Posted - 2013.06.21 20:57:00 -
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OP is right CCP was smoking when they made thr flaylock. Shoot at the enemy and boom enemy is dead. Shoot the turret at the enemy and the enemy lives. I'm lost for words with CCP, this have to be the worse release I've ever experienced. So much fail in dust it's not even funny.
To say im disappointed with CCP is an understatement. I hope sometime in the future they balance the game and fix all the issues. Until then may the force be with you on the battle field. |
xLTShinySidesx
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2013.06.21 21:03:00 -
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I wish people would try the flaylock instead of assuming its a ohk weapon :/
The only time I ever ohk anybody is if they're in a scout suit. |
R'adeh Hunt
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.06.21 21:17:00 -
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KING SALASI wrote:OP is right CCP was smoking when they made thr flaylock. Shoot at the enemy and boom enemy is dead. Shoot the turret at the enemy and the enemy lives. I'm lost for words with CCP, this have to be the worse release I've ever experienced. So much fail in dust it's not even funny.
To say im disappointed with CCP is an understatement. I hope sometime in the future they balance the game and fix all the issues. Until then may the force be with you on the battle field.
Your posts leads me to 2 conclusions:
1) You are a scout suit user who sucks at jumping. 2) You never actually used the Flaylock yourself.
Very likely it's both of those ;) |
PlanetsideTwo F2PonPS4
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.06.21 21:17:00 -
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Ted Nugget wrote:Why is it that a flaylock pistol is better at killing infantry than a missile turret? Anyone have any suggestions to ease my mind. I just don't understand how a mini rocket is so much better at killing than a big missile from a large turret. Oh, because infantry don't cry when the weapon is in their hand. Go figure they make a handheld weapon that fires the same type of ammo as a turret and the handheld weapon is more effective. FTW Maybe I should have put my 10 mil sp into flaylocks. Rather than dumping it all into a worthless missile turret for a tank that infantry can dodge the splash damage, which doesn't even hurt the enemy.
Because its the new gun..
Everyone must get addicted to the pay guns that are op.
Its how you make money. |
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