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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
267
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Posted - 2013.06.26 20:18:00 -
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Thought I forgot about this didn't you? |
Shijima Kuraimaru
WarRavens League of Infamy
232
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Posted - 2013.06.27 00:41:00 -
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D3LTA Blitzkrieg II wrote:cant agree with you more. WEAPON BALANCE IS A MUST! the Duvolle AR is the golden work horse. HMG's should have more dmg up close and a sharp dmg drop off at medium range and more bullet spread to compensate. Mass driver dmg should be nerfed and more blast radius but less ROF. Laser rifles need a DMG buff when the ray has been shot fer more than 3.5 sec continuously making it exel at longer ranges. Cant make 1 gun exel at all types of situations
The HMG's damage is fine, if a little understated, due to rate of fire, however it's the bullet dispersion that makes in nearly useless at ranges beyond point blank. What you're suggesting would reduce it to being effective at just out of melee range.
The HMG needs less bullet dispersion. It's useless as it is now for forward assault, area denial, and cover fire. That the shotgun outperforms the HMG at the same outer ranges is just wrong. |
Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
267
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Posted - 2013.06.27 17:29:00 -
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Bump |
XV1
Ninth Legion Freelance
25
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Posted - 2013.06.27 17:51:00 -
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I find the logistics is almost as effective as assault in any situation and more effective at teamwork. They should have lower fitting options. Give them some kind of bonus that lets them fit equipment for less PG/CPU. This would make them use equipment and not max out their tank with a Duvolle and kick everythings ***.
Look at Caldari Logistics which in all means has better assault bonuses than the Caldari Assault gets. 25% bonus to shield exteders and they get 3-5 shield extenders depending on their taste. That is easily better than the assaults recharge bonus which the Logi can fit in one of his many many high slots and massive CPU reserves. With the Shield regulators stacked up FLUX grenades are laughable as they can hide for two seconds and then come back with a good portion of their health back. This is all not mentioning that they get a free complex armor repairer at level five giving them yet another slot empty for a regulator. This is not all the Caldari Logistics fault, partially the imbalance of shields vs armor.
By the way I am gallente logistics and play the actual logistics role, support. |
KOBLAKA1
Opus Arcana Covert Intervention
96
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Posted - 2013.06.27 20:36:00 -
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As a heavy i condone this message an would like to add my disappointment of another AR/SR platform the commando suit. Because as i heavy i want to do everything less effectively than an assault suit (no mods to fit effin anything really). just more favoritism to the mass rather than adding flavor to game focused around Medium frames. |
Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
269
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Posted - 2013.06.28 16:21:00 -
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Bump |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
432
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Posted - 2013.06.28 16:22:00 -
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Yeah, it is bad enough that even the logis think they need to be viable as Assaults. |
Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
269
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Posted - 2013.06.29 01:02:00 -
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Well just tested the proto mass driver vs proto suits and got wiped good thing I have adv shotgun because otherwise I'd be boned |
Orion Vahid
DUST University Ivy League
41
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Posted - 2013.06.29 01:23:00 -
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Welcome to AR 514, where investing into anything else ends up becoming a waste |
Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
270
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Posted - 2013.06.29 01:41:00 -
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Orion Vahid wrote:Welcome to AR 514, where investing into anything else ends up becoming a waste Unfortunately this seems to be true |
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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
279
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Posted - 2013.06.29 07:24:00 -
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Zatara Rought
TeamPlayers EoN.
352
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Posted - 2013.06.29 07:46:00 -
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Umm..If I see this thread again I'm going to read every post and respond and bring players that are skilled with those weapons to facilitate your thread being fact driven and responsibly approached. |
Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
296
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Posted - 2013.06.30 13:55:00 -
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Zatara Rought wrote:Umm..If I see this thread again I'm going to read every post and respond and bring players that are skilled with those weapons to facilitate your thread being fact driven and responsibly approached. Go gor it you know the reason for this thread |
Sinboto Simmons
Sver true blood Public Disorder.
633
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Posted - 2013.07.13 23:19:00 -
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Bump |
Cyzad4
Blackfish Corp.
2
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Posted - 2013.07.13 23:58:00 -
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Nice to see this whole thing in a coherent conversation and I personally would love to see some battlefield variety... now all we have to hope is devs notice.
I do have to mention that releasing new pay weapons and suits while basic core game issues sit unanswered (for months) and every new non AR gets nerfed to rat **** doesn't give me much hope for this game but hey flippers crossed. |
Sinboto Simmons
Sver true blood Public Disorder.
634
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Posted - 2013.07.14 06:10:00 -
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Bump |
Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
722
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Posted - 2013.07.15 02:41:00 -
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bump |
Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
427
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Posted - 2013.07.15 06:32:00 -
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Shijima Kuraimaru wrote:
part of the problem is that what many people perceive as balance breaks functionality for specialist weapons. This is because everyone who doesn't use the specialist weapon wants it balanced to their general purpose weapon, which makes the specialist weapon next to useless once it's unique functionality get's chopped.
Either that or they QQ because they were killed by something that they either think shouldn't be able to kill, or shouldn't be able to hit them at all.
This all the way!
I do think the heavy needs less dispersion, but maybe also more range and a slight damage buff. |
Cyzad4
Blackfish Corp.
2
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Posted - 2013.07.15 21:38:00 -
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*crickets* hello?! *crickets* |
Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
723
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Posted - 2013.07.15 21:51:00 -
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Cyzad4 wrote:*crickets* hello?! *crickets* Lol I know right? |
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Soldiersaint
Deepspace Digital
177
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Posted - 2013.07.15 23:01:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:Really upset and my spelling/grammar is bad anyway so just heads up Edit:not saying to kill assault just to improve the other classes Ok want to start off by saying I love dust it's concept and what it can become ccp has my faith that they can make this the best game of our generation but there's something to be addressed:the blatant favoritism of all things that could be considered an 'assault' suit and/or weapon while other classes get the backhand I'm literally watching the game I love's degeneration into something far from what it use to be, and no where near what it was ment to be. The ar/sr are devastating on the field and not many weapons of the same teir can oppose them,you've made the av granades more useful then some av giving assault players a way to quickly dispatch hostile vehicles ON THEIR OWN, you've taken equipment slots from everything but the logi which is for all intentions an assault suit itself and being a medium suit it was only too easy for them to spec into. Mass driver Hmg Scouts Remote explosives Proximity mines Heavys Lr Tanks Snipers Missiles All these things and more have taken the shaft because of constant complaint from assault players the mass driver's splash damage, the hmg's effectiveness to the point that hmgs can be outgunned by damn near everything , scout's speed/shield tanking ability and cpu,remote explosives and proxi mines took a hit to overall effectiveness with proxi mines taking the biggest hit being inferior to the av granade and flux for anti tank purposes ,the heavy suit was completely boned over in health/slots reducing the damage they could take,the Lr is bloody useless, tanks have been nerffed to hell,snipers have problems in taking out suits of their class without damage mods, missiles were made to be nearly useless against infantry unless used by a dropship, I can go on and on. I realize that most of your players are assault but I'm begging you this blatant favoritism NEEDS to stop fix the mass drivers, fix the snipers,take out the infantry damage mods, fix the hmg, fix the tanks,the scout, the heavy, the demolition, fix it all I'm begging you give us a fighting chance I don't want to have to go assault/logi just to compete! You have other players ccp! and they are feeling neglected by the overwhelming presence of assault and the further punishment to all that don't run as one, this is my last time calling out to you ccp I just don't know what to do I know this thread's going to be filled with trolls but someone needs to say SOMETHING so I'm here begging you because there is nothing that I havn't tried and at this point I fear there is nothing else I can. Please ccp and my fellow dusters if there was ever a time to come together this is it! Please let's band together, speak up, and stop this before it's too late! Just please I don't know what more to do Thats because most of these weapons are/were "noob tubes" very high power for very little skill. an assault rifle takes no skill..just point and click...also there is no skill in war..so that makes this skill stuff instantly invalid. the assault rifle is not the king of guns and it never will be. |
Cyzad4
Blackfish Corp.
2
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Posted - 2013.07.16 11:23:00 -
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Wonder how many pages this has to hit before we hear anything. |
Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
733
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Posted - 2013.07.16 14:54:00 -
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Cyzad4 wrote:Wonder how many pages this has to hit before we hear anything. I've actually been told by CCP Frame that several of my threads have been tagged and will be discussed,while there's no response to the thread I'll take what I can get.
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Cyzad4
Blackfish Corp.
2
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Posted - 2013.07.17 23:12:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:I've actually been told by CCP Frame that several of my threads have been tagged and will be discussed,while there's no response to the thread I'll take what I can get.
That's something at least |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
1184
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Posted - 2013.07.18 00:27:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:Really upset and my spelling/grammar is bad anyway so just heads up Edit:not saying to kill assault just to improve the other classes Ok want to start off by saying I love dust it's concept and what it can become ccp has my faith that they can make this the best game of our generation but there's something to be addressed:the blatant favoritism of all things that could be considered an 'assault' suit and/or weapon while other classes get the backhand I'm literally watching the game I love's degeneration into something far from what it use to be, and no where near what it was ment to be. The ar/sr are devastating on the field and not many weapons of the same teir can oppose them,you've made the av granades more useful then some av giving assault players a way to quickly dispatch hostile vehicles ON THEIR OWN, you've taken equipment slots from everything but the logi which is for all intentions an assault suit itself and being a medium suit it was only too easy for them to spec into. Mass driver Hmg Scouts Remote explosives Proximity mines Heavys Lr Tanks Snipers Missiles All these things and more have taken the shaft because of constant complaint from assault players the mass driver's splash damage, the hmg's effectiveness to the point that hmgs can be outgunned by damn near everything , scout's speed/shield tanking ability and cpu,remote explosives and proxi mines took a hit to overall effectiveness with proxi mines taking the biggest hit being inferior to the av granade and flux for anti tank purposes ,the heavy suit was completely boned over in health/slots reducing the damage they could take,the Lr is bloody useless, tanks have been nerffed to hell,snipers have problems in taking out suits of their class without damage mods, missiles were made to be nearly useless against infantry unless used by a dropship, I can go on and on. I realize that most of your players are assault but I'm begging you this blatant favoritism NEEDS to stop fix the mass drivers, fix the snipers,take out the infantry damage mods, fix the hmg, fix the tanks,the scout, the heavy, the demolition, fix it all I'm begging you give us a fighting chance I don't want to have to go assault/logi just to compete! You have other players ccp! and they are feeling neglected by the overwhelming presence of assault and the further punishment to all that don't run as one, this is my last time calling out to you ccp I just don't know what to do I know this thread's going to be filled with trolls but someone needs to say SOMETHING so I'm here begging you because there is nothing that I havn't tried and at this point I fear there is nothing else I can. Please ccp and my fellow dusters if there was ever a time to come together this is it! Please let's band together, speak up, and stop this before it's too late! Just please I don't know what more to do
Apparently, CCP's philosophy is go AR or go home.
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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood
757
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Posted - 2013.07.18 14:58:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:Really upset and my spelling/grammar is bad anyway so just heads up Edit:not saying to kill assault just to improve the other classes Ok want to start off by saying I love dust it's concept and what it can become ccp has my faith that they can make this the best game of our generation but there's something to be addressed:the blatant favoritism of all things that could be considered an 'assault' suit and/or weapon while other classes get the backhand I'm literally watching the game I love's degeneration into something far from what it use to be, and no where near what it was ment to be. The ar/sr are devastating on the field and not many weapons of the same teir can oppose them,you've made the av granades more useful then some av giving assault players a way to quickly dispatch hostile vehicles ON THEIR OWN, you've taken equipment slots from everything but the logi which is for all intentions an assault suit itself and being a medium suit it was only too easy for them to spec into. Mass driver Hmg Scouts Remote explosives Proximity mines Heavys Lr Tanks Snipers Missiles All these things and more have taken the shaft because of constant complaint from assault players the mass driver's splash damage, the hmg's effectiveness to the point that hmgs can be outgunned by damn near everything , scout's speed/shield tanking ability and cpu,remote explosives and proxi mines took a hit to overall effectiveness with proxi mines taking the biggest hit being inferior to the av granade and flux for anti tank purposes ,the heavy suit was completely boned over in health/slots reducing the damage they could take,the Lr is bloody useless, tanks have been nerffed to hell,snipers have problems in taking out suits of their class without damage mods, missiles were made to be nearly useless against infantry unless used by a dropship, I can go on and on. I realize that most of your players are assault but I'm begging you this blatant favoritism NEEDS to stop fix the mass drivers, fix the snipers,take out the infantry damage mods, fix the hmg, fix the tanks,the scout, the heavy, the demolition, fix it all I'm begging you give us a fighting chance I don't want to have to go assault/logi just to compete! You have other players ccp! and they are feeling neglected by the overwhelming presence of assault and the further punishment to all that don't run as one, this is my last time calling out to you ccp I just don't know what to do I know this thread's going to be filled with trolls but someone needs to say SOMETHING so I'm here begging you because there is nothing that I havn't tried and at this point I fear there is nothing else I can. Please ccp and my fellow dusters if there was ever a time to come together this is it! Please let's band together, speak up, and stop this before it's too late! Just please I don't know what more to do Apparently, CCP's philosophy is go AR or go home. Seemingly, regardless I'll continue to attempt to get things balanced |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
1190
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Posted - 2013.07.18 19:35:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:Buster Friently wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:Really upset and my spelling/grammar is bad anyway so just heads up Edit:not saying to kill assault just to improve the other classes Ok want to start off by saying I love dust it's concept and what it can become ccp has my faith that they can make this the best game of our generation but there's something to be addressed:the blatant favoritism of all things that could be considered an 'assault' suit and/or weapon while other classes get the backhand I'm literally watching the game I love's degeneration into something far from what it use to be, and no where near what it was ment to be. The ar/sr are devastating on the field and not many weapons of the same teir can oppose them,you've made the av granades more useful then some av giving assault players a way to quickly dispatch hostile vehicles ON THEIR OWN, you've taken equipment slots from everything but the logi which is for all intentions an assault suit itself and being a medium suit it was only too easy for them to spec into. Mass driver Hmg Scouts Remote explosives Proximity mines Heavys Lr Tanks Snipers Missiles All these things and more have taken the shaft because of constant complaint from assault players the mass driver's splash damage, the hmg's effectiveness to the point that hmgs can be outgunned by damn near everything , scout's speed/shield tanking ability and cpu,remote explosives and proxi mines took a hit to overall effectiveness with proxi mines taking the biggest hit being inferior to the av granade and flux for anti tank purposes ,the heavy suit was completely boned over in health/slots reducing the damage they could take,the Lr is bloody useless, tanks have been nerffed to hell,snipers have problems in taking out suits of their class without damage mods, missiles were made to be nearly useless against infantry unless used by a dropship, I can go on and on. I realize that most of your players are assault but I'm begging you this blatant favoritism NEEDS to stop fix the mass drivers, fix the snipers,take out the infantry damage mods, fix the hmg, fix the tanks,the scout, the heavy, the demolition, fix it all I'm begging you give us a fighting chance I don't want to have to go assault/logi just to compete! You have other players ccp! and they are feeling neglected by the overwhelming presence of assault and the further punishment to all that don't run as one, this is my last time calling out to you ccp I just don't know what to do I know this thread's going to be filled with trolls but someone needs to say SOMETHING so I'm here begging you because there is nothing that I havn't tried and at this point I fear there is nothing else I can. Please ccp and my fellow dusters if there was ever a time to come together this is it! Please let's band together, speak up, and stop this before it's too late! Just please I don't know what more to do Apparently, CCP's philosophy is go AR or go home. Seemingly, regardless I'll continue to attempt to get things balanced As will I, until I get tired and leave. |
CLONE117
Planetary Response Organization
41
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Posted - 2013.07.18 19:43:00 -
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that free unfitted lav could not withstand 2 av grenades in quick succession they would die be a single crb7...
the reason they surive most of that stuff is simple...speed.....
now the logi lav that thing can tank stuff...
but the freee lav is realy weak...
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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood
762
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Posted - 2013.07.18 20:18:00 -
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CLONE117 wrote:that free unfitted lav could not withstand 2 av grenades in quick succession they would die be a single crb7...
the reason they surive most of that stuff is simple...speed.....
now the logi lav that thing can tank stuff...
but the freee lav is realy weak...
I think you may have post in the wrong thread........ |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
1279
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Posted - 2013.07.25 01:17:00 -
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Bump, because CCP is still crafting AR 514. |
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