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Sinboto Simmons
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Posted - 2013.06.20 19:47:00 -
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Really upset and my spelling/grammar is bad anyway so just heads up
Ok want to start off by saying I love dust it's concept and what it can become ccp has my faith that they can make this the best game of our generation but there's something to be addressed:the blatant favoritism of all things that could be considered an 'assault' suit and/or weapon while other classes get the backhand.
The ar/sr are devastating on the field and not many weapons of the same teir can oppose them,you've made the av granades more useful then some av giving assault players a way to quickly dispatch hostile vehicles ON THEIR OWN, you've taken equipment slots from everything but the logi which is for all intentions an assault suit itself and being a medium suit it was only too easy for them to spec into.
Mass driver
Hmg
Scouts
Remote explosives
Proximity mines
Heavys
Lr
Tanks
Snipers
Missiles
All these things and more have taken the shaft because of constant complaint from assault players the mass driver's splash damage, the hmg's effectiveness to the point that hmgs can be outgunned by damn near everything , scout's speed/shield tanking ability and cpu,remote explosives and proxi mines took a hit to overall effectiveness with proxi mines taking the biggest hit being inferior to the av granade and flux for anti tank purposes ,the heavy suit was completely boned over in health/slots reducing the damage they could take,the Lr is bloody useless, tanks have been nerffed to hell,snipers have problems in taking out suits of their class without damage mods, missiles were made to be nearly useless against infantry unless used by a dropship, I can go on and on.
I realize that most of your players are assault but I'm begging you this blatant favoritism NEEDS to stop fix the mass drivers, fix the snipers,take out the infantry damage mods, fix the hmg, fix the tanks,the scout, the heavy, the demolition, fix it all I'm begging you give us a fighting chance I don't want to have to go assault/logi just to compete!
You have other players ccp! and they are feeling neglected by the overwhelming presence of assault and the further punishment to all that don't run as one, this is my last time calling out to you ccp I just don't know what to do I know this thread's going to be filled with trolls but someone needs to say SOMETHING so I'm here begging you because there is nothing that I havn't tried and at this point I fear there is nothing else I can.
Please ccp and my fellow dusters if there was ever a time to come together this is it! Please let's band together, speak up, and stop this before it's too late! |
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Posted - 2013.06.21 00:05:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:BL4CKST4R wrote:*list of things that got nerfed because AR assaults bitched* Thats because most of these weapons are/were "noob tubes" very high power for very little skill. Actually, it's because most dumbass AR assaults don't know how to counter something (well, besides the viziam LR, and devs confirmed the stats were a fluke) I've learned just by watching most people play why they think everything but the AR is OP-
- Enemy team has major tactical advantage and is using it to put their weapons to optimal use
- Pack of blue AR assaults charge in with no use of caution, and get slaughtered
- Instead of finding a better approach, the pack of blue AR assaults does the same thing again
- and again
- and again
Thank you bob I knew there was going to be trolls in this thread and your support is encouraging I don't want to kill the ar just to improve the other classes they are being neglected and downplayed and it needs to end this is supposed to be a tactical shooter not who's got the better rifle game. |
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Posted - 2013.06.21 00:07:00 -
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Thank you for your support buster greatly appreciated |
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Posted - 2013.06.21 00:15:00 -
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This post is for some who either A:misunderstood me or B:are ignoring this part of the thread intentionally
As I said in my post :I'm not trying to kill the assault class nor the assault weapons I just want the other classes/weapons to have the strength to fight back and do as they were ment to do not be struck down to appease the many |
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Posted - 2013.06.21 02:15:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:This post is for some who either A:misunderstood me or B:are ignoring this part of the thread intentionally
As I said in my post :I'm not trying to kill the assault class nor the assault weapons I just want the other classes/weapons to have the strength to fight back and do as they were ment to do not be struck down to appease the many Agreed I want to see more, and possibly spec into Scouts (the Amarr Scout) and see more heavies in the field, however IMO its not down to the weapons needing buffs its the lack of variance in the heavy weapon types, and for scouts the long range weapons. Thank you sir |
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Posted - 2013.06.21 05:39:00 -
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stlcarlos989 wrote:LMAO once they nerf logis everyone will switch back to assaults and people will claims that assaults are OP because thats what every one is using and its out killing other classes. The simple fact is 1 flux grenade against a cal logi leaves them with 112 armor and thats if they have the armor core skill at level 5 and if they have armor plates they are an easier target because they're slower. If you see a bunch of proto cal logis why not switch to a dropsuit with flux grenades instead of crying on the forums for a nerf of a dropsuit with a GLARING WEAKNESS.
Didn't expect one of my own to be this stupid.........
I've not asked for anything to be nerffed dropsuit or otherwise which means you didn't actually read the thread which I didn't expect from you at all carlos I'm rather ashamed that a stb member would post something so foolish, in another stb member's thread no less, and I'm disgusted by your actions so expect to be hearing from me.
Your post is foolish, childish, filled with stupidity, and quite frankly disgusting troll somewhere else fool. |
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Posted - 2013.06.21 06:23:00 -
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Niuvo wrote:I agree with you Sinboto, I want to see variety[, counters, new map structures for a full on war simulation.
The assault team is to push forward. Every other role is to support or deterr this highly effective role. thanks. No thank you for the support |
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Posted - 2013.06.21 11:59:00 -
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Posted - 2013.06.21 18:05:00 -
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stlcarlos989 wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:stlcarlos989 wrote:LMAO once they nerf logis everyone will switch back to assaults and people will claims that assaults are OP because thats what every one is using and its out killing other classes. The simple fact is 1 flux grenade against a cal logi leaves them with 112 armor and thats if they have the armor core skill at level 5 and if they have armor plates they are an easier target because they're slower. If you see a bunch of proto cal logis why not switch to a dropsuit with flux grenades instead of crying on the forums for a nerf of a dropsuit with a GLARING WEAKNESS. Didn't expect one of my own to be this stupid......... I've not asked for anything to be nerffed dropsuit or otherwise which means you didn't actually read the thread which I didn't expect from you at all carlos I'm rather ashamed that a stb member would post something so foolish, in another stb member's thread no less, and I'm disgusted by your actions so expect to be hearing from me. Your post is foolish, childish, filled with stupidity, and quite frankly disgusting troll somewhere else fool. Lol my bad sinboto I meant to post that in this thread, I had several tabs open and clicked reply on the wrong one and its not a troll post its my honest opinion. And also I won't be hearing from you, I've been in STB for years and feel free to ask QG or the horsemen who would be a bigger loss to STB myself or you. Luckily I have no interest in ever leaving STB and I'm sorry you feel ashamed at a member but get off your high horse. Hmm so just a misunderstanding? Fair enough I'd like to apologize for my earlier post as I did post that in anger I was wrong to do so.
However the second part of your post is a contradiction, you speak of getting off my high horse when you arrogantly boast about your 'position' truly confusing that.
I don't know if you think I fear you but I assure you I do not I respect you as I do all my brothers however there is a difference between respecting someone and taking it up the ass.
You will be hearing from me very soon have no doubts about that my friend. |
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Posted - 2013.06.21 22:01:00 -
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Enough of that foolishness back to topic yes? |
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Posted - 2013.06.21 22:25:00 -
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Draco Cerberus wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:stlcarlos989 wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:stlcarlos989 wrote:LMAO once they nerf logis everyone will switch back to assaults and people will claims that assaults are OP because thats what every one is using and its out killing other classes. The simple fact is 1 flux grenade against a cal logi leaves them with 112 armor and thats if they have the armor core skill at level 5 and if they have armor plates they are an easier target because they're slower. If you see a bunch of proto cal logis why not switch to a dropsuit with flux grenades instead of crying on the forums for a nerf of a dropsuit with a GLARING WEAKNESS. Didn't expect one of my own to be this stupid......... I've not asked for anything to be nerffed dropsuit or otherwise which means you didn't actually read the thread which I didn't expect from you at all carlos I'm rather ashamed that a stb member would post something so foolish, in another stb member's thread no less, and I'm disgusted by your actions so expect to be hearing from me. Your post is foolish, childish, filled with stupidity, and quite frankly disgusting troll somewhere else fool. Lol my bad sinboto I meant to post that in this thread, I had several tabs open and clicked reply on the wrong one and its not a troll post its my honest opinion. And also I won't be hearing from you, I've been in STB for years and feel free to ask QG or the horsemen who would be a bigger loss to STB myself or you. Luckily I have no interest in ever leaving STB and I'm sorry you feel ashamed at a member but get off your high horse. Hmm so just a misunderstanding? Fair enough I'd like to apologize for my earlier post as I did post that in anger I was wrong to do so. However the second part of your post is a contradiction, you speak of getting off my high horse when you arrogantly boast about your 'position' truly confusing that. I don't know if you think I fear you but I assure you I do not I respect you as I do all my brothers however there is a difference between respecting someone and taking it up the ass. You will be hearing from me very soon have no doubts about that my friend. Well it was still a great post Sinboto Simmons about why the Caldari Logi is neither overpowered nor does it deserve a nerf as it is functioning within the assault logi parameters that CCP described its design to excel in. No need for a nerf is a good thing. I wish you were not so pessimistic about its chances to survive the nerf hammer. I think the call logi is fine right now as is (well not fine but their is no reason for ze hammer) I don't want any more nerfings of any suits/weapons (besides the sr but I'm a minja so biased there) only to enhance those that have been backhanded by the whiners.
Edit:will read that at some point |
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Posted - 2013.06.21 23:45:00 -
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Thank all of you who've support this thread it means a lot to me |
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Posted - 2013.06.22 04:17:00 -
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Bump because this needs to happen ....and because I kinda wanna see wanna see how many trolls I can gather (not the main reason for this thread but a nice side effect no?) |
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Posted - 2013.06.22 16:49:00 -
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Posted - 2013.06.23 01:28:00 -
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Think it's bad now? Soon they can carry 2 light weapons and switch between them as the situation demands |
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Posted - 2013.06.23 16:15:00 -
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Posted - 2013.06.24 04:36:00 -
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Posted - 2013.06.24 20:17:00 -
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Bump & want that blue tag! Come on guys,The more support this gets the greater the chance of being noticed/commented on by a dev |
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Posted - 2013.06.25 10:40:00 -
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Posted - 2013.06.25 22:48:00 -
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Niuvo wrote:D legendary hero wrote: ARs are better than specialty weapons in their area of expertise.
save the sniper rifle, an AR can pretty much do every other specialty weapons job better.
Yup, we all need a buff. A duvolle can snipe me! kill me faster! not right. This is a pity how they have the game now. All we can do is ask for a change and hope fot the best |
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Posted - 2013.06.26 02:41:00 -
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Posted - 2013.06.26 02:49:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:I'll fix this: '' tired of the overwhelming Logi in dust 514''
more like it now...
I do agree on the buffs OP pointed out. Lol thanks although the post is less about the suit snd more bout the playstyle and the favoritism it gets |
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Posted - 2013.06.26 03:01:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:I'll fix this: '' tired of the overwhelming Logi in dust 514''
more like it now...
I do agree on the buffs OP pointed out. Lol thanks although the post is less about the suit snd more bout the playstyle and the favoritism it gets I'll take my ranting elsewhere then XD
noooo come back! lol |
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Posted - 2013.06.26 03:57:00 -
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D3LTA Blitzkrieg II wrote:cant agree with you more. WEAPON BALANCE IS A MUST! the Duvolle AR is the golden work horse. HMG's should have more dmg up close and a sharp dmg drop off at medium range and more bullet spread to compensate. Mass driver dmg should be nerfed and more blast radius but less ROF. Laser rifles need a DMG buff when the ray has been shot fer more than 3.5 sec continuously making it exel at longer ranges. Cant make 1 gun exel at all types of situations
Agree with ya on most accounts.....cept my MD she needs a splash damage buff other wise leave my minny weapon alone(lol)
but realy though no more nerfs only tweaking/making weapons,suits,vehicles,and equipment stronger so they can do what they are meant for.
Except the av/fused nade ,burn um with fire |
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Posted - 2013.06.26 04:15:00 -
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D3LTA Blitzkrieg II wrote:hahah i apreciate the humor, and the MD is a area denying weapon....i think its purpose is not to kill but control an area and breach buildings soo high dmg must b traded for more blast radius I guess this is where we differ in opinion :P to make an entire weapon class incapable of killing anything just seems off to me ya know personally I think lowering the damage and rof of a mass driver would make it ineffective in it's role,despite the splash radius increase, as it is now proto users just walk towards you as you fire at them due to low splash damage I want to see the mass driver as a : "Holy Balls It's a MD GTFO" kinda weapon made to made to totally deny access to certain areas and clear large groups.
Just my opinion though |
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Posted - 2013.06.26 04:38:00 -
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D3LTA Blitzkrieg II wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:D3LTA Blitzkrieg II wrote:hahah i apreciate the humor, and the MD is a area denying weapon....i think its purpose is not to kill but control an area and breach buildings soo high dmg must b traded for more blast radius I guess this is where we differ in opinion :P to make an entire weapon class incapable of killing anything just seems off to me ya know personally I think lowering the damage and rof of a mass driver would make it ineffective in it's role,despite the splash radius increase, as it is now proto users just walk towards you as you fire at them due to low splash damage I want to see the mass driver as a : "Holy Balls It's a MD GTFO" kinda weapon made to made to totally deny access to certain areas and clear large groups. Just my opinion though i apreciate the concisive argument and i guess you are right that the enemy cud just advance torwards you due to your lack of firepower but i think the mass driver should be a support weapon able to be arched across and killing maybe wounded enemies and denying access to key locations. with a good fireteam im sure u can steal a few kills but yes you do sacrifice fear factor with less dmg
the way it is now I would like to see one of two things.
1:splash damage increase
or
2:splash radius increase/ammo increase
either or I don't think it needs both to be effective but to have one and focus on that playstyle either a low damage mid rof weapon with awesome splash radius that slowly chips away as your team mops up or a hard hitting mortar with less splash radius but is powerful enough that anything it hits feels it's power and rethinks it's approach.
or perhaps have the assault and normal mass drivers have these differences ikd XD
Edit:with the breach as the "WTH was that" light anti armor weapon |
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Posted - 2013.06.26 04:50:00 -
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D3LTA Blitzkrieg II wrote:i think weve reached a compromise then, now hope CCP sees it :D likewise my adversary likewise |
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Posted - 2013.06.26 20:18:00 -
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Thought I forgot about this didn't you? |
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Posted - 2013.06.27 17:29:00 -
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Posted - 2013.06.28 16:21:00 -
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Posted - 2013.06.29 01:02:00 -
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Well just tested the proto mass driver vs proto suits and got wiped good thing I have adv shotgun because otherwise I'd be boned |
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Posted - 2013.06.29 01:41:00 -
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Orion Vahid wrote:Welcome to AR 514, where investing into anything else ends up becoming a waste Unfortunately this seems to be true |
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Posted - 2013.06.29 07:24:00 -
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Posted - 2013.06.30 13:55:00 -
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Zatara Rought wrote:Umm..If I see this thread again I'm going to read every post and respond and bring players that are skilled with those weapons to facilitate your thread being fact driven and responsibly approached. Go gor it you know the reason for this thread |
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Posted - 2013.07.13 23:19:00 -
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Posted - 2013.07.15 02:41:00 -
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Posted - 2013.07.15 21:51:00 -
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Cyzad4 wrote:*crickets* hello?! *crickets* Lol I know right? |
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Posted - 2013.07.16 14:54:00 -
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Cyzad4 wrote:Wonder how many pages this has to hit before we hear anything. I've actually been told by CCP Frame that several of my threads have been tagged and will be discussed,while there's no response to the thread I'll take what I can get.
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Posted - 2013.07.18 14:58:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:Really upset and my spelling/grammar is bad anyway so just heads up Edit:not saying to kill assault just to improve the other classes Ok want to start off by saying I love dust it's concept and what it can become ccp has my faith that they can make this the best game of our generation but there's something to be addressed:the blatant favoritism of all things that could be considered an 'assault' suit and/or weapon while other classes get the backhand I'm literally watching the game I love's degeneration into something far from what it use to be, and no where near what it was ment to be. The ar/sr are devastating on the field and not many weapons of the same teir can oppose them,you've made the av granades more useful then some av giving assault players a way to quickly dispatch hostile vehicles ON THEIR OWN, you've taken equipment slots from everything but the logi which is for all intentions an assault suit itself and being a medium suit it was only too easy for them to spec into. Mass driver Hmg Scouts Remote explosives Proximity mines Heavys Lr Tanks Snipers Missiles All these things and more have taken the shaft because of constant complaint from assault players the mass driver's splash damage, the hmg's effectiveness to the point that hmgs can be outgunned by damn near everything , scout's speed/shield tanking ability and cpu,remote explosives and proxi mines took a hit to overall effectiveness with proxi mines taking the biggest hit being inferior to the av granade and flux for anti tank purposes ,the heavy suit was completely boned over in health/slots reducing the damage they could take,the Lr is bloody useless, tanks have been nerffed to hell,snipers have problems in taking out suits of their class without damage mods, missiles were made to be nearly useless against infantry unless used by a dropship, I can go on and on. I realize that most of your players are assault but I'm begging you this blatant favoritism NEEDS to stop fix the mass drivers, fix the snipers,take out the infantry damage mods, fix the hmg, fix the tanks,the scout, the heavy, the demolition, fix it all I'm begging you give us a fighting chance I don't want to have to go assault/logi just to compete! You have other players ccp! and they are feeling neglected by the overwhelming presence of assault and the further punishment to all that don't run as one, this is my last time calling out to you ccp I just don't know what to do I know this thread's going to be filled with trolls but someone needs to say SOMETHING so I'm here begging you because there is nothing that I havn't tried and at this point I fear there is nothing else I can. Please ccp and my fellow dusters if there was ever a time to come together this is it! Please let's band together, speak up, and stop this before it's too late! Just please I don't know what more to do Apparently, CCP's philosophy is go AR or go home. Seemingly, regardless I'll continue to attempt to get things balanced |
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Posted - 2013.07.18 20:18:00 -
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CLONE117 wrote:that free unfitted lav could not withstand 2 av grenades in quick succession they would die be a single crb7...
the reason they surive most of that stuff is simple...speed.....
now the logi lav that thing can tank stuff...
but the freee lav is realy weak...
I think you may have post in the wrong thread........ |
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Posted - 2013.08.04 08:54:00 -
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Bump because I want this gone |
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Posted - 2013.08.13 17:40:00 -
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need to update the op but point still stands |
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Posted - 2013.09.05 05:17:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote:It's a crapload worse now that the OP bullet hose is godlike due to the aimbot.
Hail king AR. Hail AR 514. Gotta agree worse then ever
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