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pegasis prime
The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.07.03 08:54:00 -
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Give the lad a hint lol . |
Telleth
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.07.05 00:03:00 -
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Alright Void, I just met you on the wrong side of a skirmish on manus peak, you were rail sniping. WTH kinda fit are you using on that maddy? It was ridiculously heavy hitting with 7k armor. |
Void Echo
Internal Error.
332
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Posted - 2013.07.05 00:09:00 -
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Telleth wrote:Alright Void, I just met you on the wrong side of a skirmish on manus peak, you were rail sniping. WTH kinda fit are you using on that maddy? It was ridiculously heavy hitting with 7k armor.
find out yourself, I will never give my fitting away, I got you down to a little under 200 HP in armor then you backed into the mountain and came back 5 seconds later with full 6k armor, I should be asking you what the hell you have |
Telleth
DUST University Ivy League
62
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Posted - 2013.07.05 04:51:00 -
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Heh, Durn. That was a nice fit you had there. Figured mine was the standard one most everyone uses. I tried a glass cannon fit for a while, just wasn't as effective over the course of a match. I've always found it difficult to get over upper 6k without sacrificing a lot in either reps or resists. Do people run smaller reppers with more buffer with good effect? |
Void Echo
Internal Error. League of Infamy
339
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Posted - 2013.07.05 04:53:00 -
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iv been noticing more tank drivers getting more armor, almost as much as mine |
pegasis prime
The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries DARKSTAR ARMY
376
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Posted - 2013.07.05 06:48:00 -
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Iv had quite a few heavilly armour maddys pop to my glass cannon. It dont matter how good your fit is if your crap its dead. But back on to yoir maddy gives a clue lol |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
701
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Posted - 2013.07.05 09:15:00 -
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pegasis prime wrote:
Now as a tanker and especially a shield tanker you have to know your priority targets , for me it is as follows from threat level highest to lowest of my top 10 threats on the battle field
1 any tank
2 forge gunner
3 rail turret
4 swarm launcher
5 plasma canon operative
6 blaster turret
7 av nader
8 bumper car (they can ram your tank to death)
9 proxy mines
10 Normal infantry
Follow the 3 DGÇÖs and youll do well in your tanking venture
Demoralise, distract and destroy, this is your job this is your goal itGÇÖs not always about getting the kills but you are the biggest and meanest machine on the field if you force even 1 whole squad to come after and chase you all game then thatGÇÖs 1 whole squad your foot troops donGÇÖt have to bother about.
hm.. wow you put plasma cannon really high, most miss and they are easy to avoid, i would put it at the bottom. and switch the forge with SL(proto) because they are much harder to avoid and dodge with similar damage and are homing and can follow around corners and usually invisible with wrong hit markers. |
pegasis prime
The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries DARKSTAR ARMY
377
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Posted - 2013.07.05 10:44:00 -
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ladwar wrote:pegasis prime wrote:
Now as a tanker and especially a shield tanker you have to know your priority targets , for me it is as follows from threat level highest to lowest of my top 10 threats on the battle field
1 any tank
2 forge gunner
3 rail turret
4 swarm launcher
5 plasma canon operative
6 blaster turret
7 av nader
8 bumper car (they can ram your tank to death)
9 proxy mines
10 Normal infantry
Follow the 3 DGÇÖs and youll do well in your tanking venture
Demoralise, distract and destroy, this is your job this is your goal itGÇÖs not always about getting the kills but you are the biggest and meanest machine on the field if you force even 1 whole squad to come after and chase you all game then thatGÇÖs 1 whole squad your foot troops donGÇÖt have to bother about.
hm.. wow you put plasma cannon really high, most miss and they are easy to avoid, i would put it at the bottom. and switch the forge with SL(proto) because they are much harder to avoid and dodge with similar damage and are homing and can follow around corners and usually invisible with wrong hit markers.
I only put that in there because if they get close enoigh and tgeres more than one of them they can acctually knock a few thousand off yoir shields . Two of them managed to ambush me and they ate through about 4500 of of my shields in 3 shots between them. The third shot that hit me was when I was retreating and repping. If they were working with a swarm or even had av or flux nades I would have been toast. Also I do think they are more dangerouse to me than av nades or bladter turrets or proxy mines . As I dont hang about after the first nade hits blastet turrets are pretty squishy and normaly die before theyve even homed in on me and oroxy mines well appart from the protos there a joke.
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gbh08
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
48
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Posted - 2013.07.05 14:12:00 -
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Good info's for us newb shield tankers pegasis prime thanks!
quite content with my missle tank but ima give your a go with the extra shields
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pegasis prime
The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries DARKSTAR ARMY
380
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Posted - 2013.07.06 11:09:00 -
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Hello once again folks allt more of you have been mailing me in game and asking about more advanced fits. The fits I have provided thus far are pretty solid but it would appear some of you prefer to have a bit more gank on your tank . When im back at my ps3 ill post another reply with adv turrets and tactics for shield tanking. But for those of you who just have a wee questuon or two ill be setting up a channel for all you new tankers after todays downtime. Look for (pegs tanking 101). I would also encourage mr echo to join and help out anyone who is intarested. |
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Aizen Intiki
Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack
41
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Posted - 2013.07.06 12:24:00 -
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6th slot is a LLV for repping everyone. |
Aizen Intiki
Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack
41
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Posted - 2013.07.06 12:28:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:pegasis prime wrote:Any madruger that takes 4-5 vollys from the build I mentiond is what I call a god mode tank as they obviously have good reps and resists. Iv even had one take 6 vollys but I couldent confirm if all were direct hits . Probably not unless all hardners and reppers were acctive. I have had allot more fun hunting armour tanks in my gunlogi as you really feel the risk and really need to be on ball. When im using the madruger it feels a bit too easy to be honest. "god mode" would be if you continually hit him yet he doesn't need to activate anything.
I've taken a total of 11 falchion PROTO accalerated missile shots and lived, then killed him. I know this because he raged at me for using a "OP" design, and killed him. When My race of choice does reppers commonly as a tank, I don't think OP is the word.
Peace, Aizen |
pegasis prime
The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries DARKSTAR ARMY
381
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Posted - 2013.07.06 12:34:00 -
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There is no way your maddy could withstand 11 vollys from a fully maxed falchion in succession . The only way you would survive that is if the opposing pilot missed every 2nd volly and your repswwere on . Infact no blody way did you take 11 hits in quick succesion your talking over 24000 hp if its fully maxed and has a dammge mod not to mention 129% efficiency against armour. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
714
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Posted - 2013.07.06 21:48:00 -
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pegasis prime wrote:There is no way your maddy could withstand 11 vollys from a fully maxed falchion in succession . The only way you would survive that is if the opposing pilot missed every 2nd volly and your repswwere on . Infact no blody way did you take 11 hits in quick succesion your talking over 24000 hp if its fully maxed and has a dammge mod not to mention 120% efficiency against armour. 2 armor reppers 2 armor hardeners plus the 10% skill and a DCU it is possible to tank all that damage from a fully spec falchion with 3 damage mods and proto missiles because that drops the damage to around 14500 and the two repairers would repair 13000~ when skilled into. so yes totally possible to do. |
pegasis prime
The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries DARKSTAR ARMY
382
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Posted - 2013.07.06 22:23:00 -
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ladwar wrote:pegasis prime wrote:There is no way your maddy could withstand 11 vollys from a fully maxed falchion in succession . The only way you would survive that is if the opposing pilot missed every 2nd volly and your repswwere on . Infact no blody way did you take 11 hits in quick succesion your talking over 24000 hp if its fully maxed and has a dammge mod not to mention 120% efficiency against armour. 2 armor reppers 2 armor hardeners plus the 10% skill and a DCU it is possible to tank all that damage from a fully spec falchion with 3 damage mods and proto missiles because that drops the damage to around 14500 and the two repairers would repair 13000~ when skilled into. so yes totally possible to do, the falchion would only barely beat the repairers in damage that way.
Good point . The god mode maddys are hear . |
pegasis prime
The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries DARKSTAR ARMY
467
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Posted - 2013.07.11 10:12:00 -
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Just a friendly bump to belp the aspiring tankers. |
Void Echo
Internal Error. League of Infamy
485
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Posted - 2013.07.11 10:22:00 -
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pegasis prime wrote:Just a friendly bump to belp the aspiring tankers.
im still working on this ****.... you couldv given me more time |
pegasis prime
The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries DARKSTAR ARMY
467
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Posted - 2013.07.11 11:14:00 -
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Sorry . You have some good info in hear and im just keeping it visible. |
Void Echo
Internal Error. League of Infamy
708
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Posted - 2013.07.15 11:14:00 -
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ok then, with the great war going on between EoN and LoI, iv decided that iv been ignoring this thread and im going to update all of my posts and im going to finish this thing off... YAY |
Void Echo
Internal Error. League of Infamy
710
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Posted - 2013.07.15 11:44:00 -
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pegasis prime wrote:Any madruger that takes 4-5 vollys from the build I mentiond is what I call a god mode tank as they obviously have good reps and resists. Iv even had one take 6 vollys but I couldent confirm if all were direct hits . Probably not unless all hardners and reppers were acctive. I have had allot more fun hunting armour tanks in my gunlogi as you really feel the risk and really need to be on ball. When im using the madruger it feels a bit too easy to be honest.
that depends on whether or not the swarms were advanced, proto or just standard tier |
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Void Echo
Internal Error. League of Infamy
710
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Posted - 2013.07.15 11:50:00 -
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feel free to message me in game for personal assistance, il get to you before the day ends |
pegasis prime
The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries DARKSTAR ARMY
573
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Posted - 2013.07.15 17:34:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:pegasis prime wrote:Any madruger that takes 4-5 vollys from the build I mentiond is what I call a god mode tank as they obviously have good reps and resists. Iv even had one take 6 vollys but I couldent confirm if all were direct hits . Probably not unless all hardners and reppers were acctive. I have had allot more fun hunting armour tanks in my gunlogi as you really feel the risk and really need to be on ball. When im using the madruger it feels a bit too easy to be honest. that depends on whether or not the swarms were advanced, proto or just standard tier
I was chatting about my glass cannon iv lamped about 6 vollys of the compressed particle cannon with 2 htlfs mods and it barely touched its armour. |
Alena Ventrallis
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
11
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Posted - 2013.07.17 07:52:00 -
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If I was to go into tanks with the goal of providing support for infantry in an urban environment, what would be best? I remember being in a gunnlogi that was equipped with missiles that seemed to do pretty well against infantry. I'd like it to be Caldari for RP but I don't mind going Gallente if that's what's best.
Also, how are enforcers so much easier to kill than regular tanks? I've never driven either, but just looking at the numbers they seem to have a negligible difference in shield/armor and cpu/pg, along side an extra high/low slot. Is there something I'm missing as a newbie to tanks? Or is this no longer the case? |
Void Echo
Internal Error. League of Infamy
719
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Posted - 2013.07.17 09:57:00 -
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Alena Ventrallis wrote:If I was to go into tanks with the goal of providing support for infantry in an urban environment, what would be best? I remember being in a gunnlogi that was equipped with missiles that seemed to do pretty well against infantry. I'd like it to be Caldari for RP but I don't mind going Gallente if that's what's best.
Also, how are enforcers so much easier to kill than regular tanks? I've never driven either, but just looking at the numbers they seem to have a negligible difference in shield/armor and cpu/pg, along side an extra high/low slot. Is there something I'm missing as a newbie to tanks? Or is this no longer the case?
going armor tank is the best solution for you along with a large blaster, that way youl be a threat to everything up close, and the enforcers give a bonus to blaster zooming and long distance damage which just contradicts itself entirely, every enforcer iv gone up against iv always destroyed. |
pegasis prime
The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries DARKSTAR ARMY
590
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Posted - 2013.07.17 18:58:00 -
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Id have to agree with void hear if you are new to tanking then go with the fotm madruger . Simplu because shield tanking is broken just now and its really only vets that can make a profit from shield tanking . That being said if ccp get round to fixing shield tanks and release proto havs then shield tanking will be a viable option for new tankers, as shield tanks have great resistance against the most common tyoe of av dammage (explosives such as avnades and swarms.). |
CaveCav
Eliters D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
4
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Posted - 2013.07.18 07:43:00 -
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Is there a point in making a hybrid shield/armor tanked tank? |
Void Echo
Internal Error.
740
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Posted - 2013.07.18 07:46:00 -
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CaveCav wrote:Is there a point in making a hybrid shield/armor tanked tank?
not really, until we get minmatar and amarr tanks, your better off just deciding between the 2 we have now, im sure thatin the future we will have both shield and armor style tanks in the same race, but for now, no |
CaveCav
Eliters D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
4
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Posted - 2013.07.18 18:19:00 -
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Ok i went for the Gunlogi on my vehicle alt because i love shields or maybe because i like making my life harder
I already got my large and small hybrid turrets to level 3 and I'm starting to develop vehicle upgrades, do you guys have any suggestion on how should I progress with my skill developement?
Also can I ask for some suggestion on some basic fits? I for sure want a long range high damage railgun fit and maybe a more durable medium range blaster fit.
Thanks for your help guys! |
pegasis prime
The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries DARKSTAR ARMY
596
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Posted - 2013.07.19 10:40:00 -
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Have a look at the basic fits I posted in this thread for gunlogi fits. If you are really intarested in shield tanking drop me a message in game and ill see if I can help you out. Im allways happy to help a fellow shield tsnker as we are a dying breed. |
CaveCav
Eliters D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
4
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Posted - 2013.07.19 16:26:00 -
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Quote:Have a look at the basic fits I posted in this thread for gunlogi fits. If you are really intarested in shield tanking drop me a message in game and ill see if I can help you out. Im allways happy to help a fellow shield tsnker as we are a dying breed.
thanks pegasis! I'll surely do that |
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