I think the 6th spot could really be for a second assault or logi. Or for the daring maybe another tank?

maybe a fast, nimble caldari "scout" shield tank fitted with some advanced propulsion modules to give it acceleration and top speed as well as a railgun turret in order to soften up enemy tanks and lure them into the sights of a more formidable aggressor.

Please do not forget to mention how shields take less damage from AV grenades and swarms and how armor takes mor damage from AV and swarms, while shield takes more damage from lasers/blasters.

Great guide thanks alot. Using alot of this currently.

If you use a LLAV for the tank's logistical support, wouldn't it be beneficial for the squad to have a dedicated logi? The LLAV driver could be a logistics, but then he would have to split his focus between the tank and the squad.

please make a fit about gunnlogi, can't get one irght!

What about shield hardeners?

Do they happen to be god mode madrugers? Thats the onlybones that give me trouble. Shield tanks are still popping to my glass cannon fit.oh and by the way here it is

The glass cannon. (NOT FOR THE INEXPERIENCED )

High slotts- 1 heavy converse shield booster, 3 aztropic ward shield extendersand a ward shield amplifier

Low slotts - 2 10% dammage mods (cant remember their names off hand)

Large turret- 80 gj compressed particle cannon

Small turrets - 2 st cycled missiles


This fit is exelent at range and will deal devistating alpha dammage. But be carefull not to overheat take your time between shotts 4 or 5 consecutive shots will kill almost any tank reps or not ( iv found that 3 normally dose it if you get the drop on them).
Using this fit is not for the faint hearted and will die verry quickly if the tank you are hunting sees you first.
Allways get a good position with a line of sight on your preys retreat route and if you take your time you will kill them .
Be sneaky drive right round the redline behind them and flank them before attacking and get them when they are not expecting it.
The heavy shield booster is really only any use against light av resistance so run when you get roo many reds round you a dead tank is no use to your team.

Hope this is of some use. Ill post some frontline rail and missile fits over tge coming days.

Any madruger that takes 4-5 vollys from the build I mentiond is what I call a god mode tank as they obviously have good reps and resists. Iv even had one take 6 vollys but I couldent confirm if all were direct hits . Probably not unless all hardners and reppers were acctive. I have had allot more fun hunting armour tanks in my gunlogi as you really feel the risk and really need to be on ball. When im using the madruger it feels a bit too easy to be honest.

Can you fit decent tanks with 10m SP?
Or, should I just grind out another 5m in Militias?

Any advice on a madruger railgun build for <50m range?

Alright Void, I just met you on the wrong side of a skirmish on manus peak, you were rail sniping. WTH kinda fit are you using on that maddy? It was ridiculously heavy hitting with 7k armor.

Just a friendly bump to belp the aspiring tankers.

Any madruger that takes 4-5 vollys from the build I mentiond is what I call a god mode tank as they obviously have good reps and resists. Iv even had one take 6 vollys but I couldent confirm if all were direct hits . Probably not unless all hardners and reppers were acctive. I have had allot more fun hunting armour tanks in my gunlogi as you really feel the risk and really need to be on ball. When im using the madruger it feels a bit too easy to be honest.

If I was to go into tanks with the goal of providing support for infantry in an urban environment, what would be best? I remember being in a gunnlogi that was equipped with missiles that seemed to do pretty well against infantry. I'd like it to be Caldari for RP but I don't mind going Gallente if that's what's best.

Also, how are enforcers so much easier to kill than regular tanks? I've never driven either, but just looking at the numbers they seem to have a negligible difference in shield/armor and cpu/pg, along side an extra high/low slot. Is there something I'm missing as a newbie to tanks? Or is this no longer the case?

Is there a point in making a hybrid shield/armor tanked tank?

Its too bad that most of the post are empty...

I have to agree that armor really does have it made at the moment. Probably best for the nubs if money is an issue. Though as a shield tanker myself, don't underestimate the viability of a shield tank. Swarms are a huge issue for armor tankers, I srsly will eat those up all day (proto swarms with damage mods though do a fair chuck of damage).

Ran a few matches with my buddy armor tankers, Lone-Wolf and xxXLonewolfXxx last night and man was it great. Everyone running AV had swarms. More then a few times I pulled in front of my counter part Lone-Wolf and soaked up the swarms for him, that's how we spider tank it. Lost no tanks, always a good thing.

Shields do take a bit to get used to, but if you fit them with high mitigation and use range to your advantage, you can usually escape most situations. Not to mention I always use a nitro speed booster in one of my high slots. This, is very important when it comes to shield tanking. Being squishier, you need the speed to get out and away. And it will surprise the Av tryin to murder you, FG has to lead his shots out, same with rails, far more to get ya. More often then not, they miss!

I hope 1.5 brings me all the speed I've dreamed about:)

See I can understand that in space, but on a planet, armor does slow you.

If you read the forum post the devs put up about 1.5 they talk about armor being the guys that soak up all the damage, and shields being hit and run.

Less mass = less required energy for movement

more mass = far more energy required for movement

(A quote from the post)
Shield
Low HP ceiling, fast regen, hit-and-run.
More shields increases shield regen delay.
Once depleted, shields take a long time to kick back in.

Armor
High HP ceiling, slow regen, stand-and-deliver.
More armor slows you down.
Armor has no native regen.

Given this, I would assume they make shield tanks faster then armor to fit these loose guidelines set out by ccp.

To be "hit and run", you have to be able to get in and out within the time allotted.

"stand-and-deliver" makes me think, slower but able to take the punishment.

I understand the lore part, but on a planet it just doesn't make sense.

Armor has far more mass, it should have slower regen and speed, but much more HP and Long lasting resist

Shields have far less mass, so more speed considering most of the power goes for propulsion, high in cpu and burst resist and healing.

Only the future will tell!

In the quick paced PC environment I def agree speed tank glass cannons are the way. In PC, if you aren't losing tanks, you aren't doing your job.

In Pubs though, where maintaining income is an issue, I prefer high mitigation tanks.

Agree with you wholeheartedly on the tank to tank battles. I've destroyed me some armor tanks using superior tactics. Though if I see a soma, I'm rammin that *****, guns a blazin

Not like you are constantly losing a stream of tanks, losing 3 or 4 isn't a huge deal if you are putting the hurt on in turn. I myself though haven't done any PC in a few months, but 3 or 4 was about my average. No time anymore for it!

But still, a lot about keeping your tank alive involves you sitting and waiting for reps. In PC a tank should be more aggressive, therefor less worried about dying and more concerned about winning!