Armor (Gallente) VS Shield (Caldari)

When it comes to being in close and personal in battles, armor is the way to go, it is faster than shield is (at the moment), can take a beating and the reps are faster. Armor hardeners are effective at giving you the 3x the armor you actually have when you activate it without the use of more armor plates giving you more PG & CPU to use for Armor Repair Modules and Turrets, giving you a boost of health and making it harder for the enemy to kill you.

Shields aren't that effective in any situation at the moment but they are essential to your survival since they are the 1st line of defense you have, those that use shield as the main defensive point are mainly known as "Glass Cannons" because of the fact that they are still easy to destroy if they get caught in fire and cant escape and if they aim at you, your automatically dead. Shield hardeners are recommended since the base shields plus the shield extenders take up too much CPU at the moment not allowing you to have a good shield booster thus taking it longer to fully recharge, on the plus side, shield is automatically recharged after being hit so its like a "passive" regenerator unlike armor where you have to activate the armor repair manually.

There are pros and cons to both armor and shield but it would take me several hours to type them all into this post, you decide which one you want to go with.

Please do not forget to mention how shields take less damage from AV grenades and swarms and how armor takes mor damage from AV and swarms, while shield takes more damage from lasers/blasters.

interesting thought, although I wonder what type of tank should be in there

Great guide thanks alot. Using alot of this currently.

If you use a LLAV for the tank's logistical support, wouldn't it be beneficial for the squad to have a dedicated logi? The LLAV driver could be a logistics, but then he would have to split his focus between the tank and the squad.

please make a fit about gunnlogi, can't get one irght!

What about shield hardeners?

haha, looks like things are finally starting to get fun, I can no longer kill of enemy tanks so easily, im finally having to work for it.... FINALLY A CHALLENGE

Do they happen to be god mode madrugers? Thats the onlybones that give me trouble. Shield tanks are still popping to my glass cannon fit.oh and by the way here it is

The glass cannon. (NOT FOR THE INEXPERIENCED )

High slotts- 1 heavy converse shield booster, 3 aztropic ward shield extendersand a ward shield amplifier

Low slotts - 2 10% dammage mods (cant remember their names off hand)

Large turret- 80 gj compressed particle cannon

Small turrets - 2 st cycled missiles


This fit is exelent at range and will deal devistating alpha dammage. But be carefull not to overheat take your time between shotts 4 or 5 consecutive shots will kill almost any tank reps or not ( iv found that 3 normally dose it if you get the drop on them).
Using this fit is not for the faint hearted and will die verry quickly if the tank you are hunting sees you first.
Allways get a good position with a line of sight on your preys retreat route and if you take your time you will kill them .
Be sneaky drive right round the redline behind them and flank them before attacking and get them when they are not expecting it.
The heavy shield booster is really only any use against light av resistance so run when you get roo many reds round you a dead tank is no use to your team.

Hope this is of some use. Ill post some frontline rail and missile fits over tge coming days.

Any madruger that takes 4-5 vollys from the build I mentiond is what I call a god mode tank as they obviously have good reps and resists. Iv even had one take 6 vollys but I couldent confirm if all were direct hits . Probably not unless all hardners and reppers were acctive. I have had allot more fun hunting armour tanks in my gunlogi as you really feel the risk and really need to be on ball. When im using the madruger it feels a bit too easy to be honest.

Can you fit decent tanks with 10m SP?
Or, should I just grind out another 5m in Militias?

I have 9 million sp in tank driving and the rest im saving for the jet fighters.

in short, yes you can, your survivability is dependent on your experience as a driver

Any advice on a madruger railgun build for <50m range?