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Commander Crispy
DepartmentOfCorruption
1
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Posted - 2013.06.12 15:07:00 -
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THey are way to overpower.need to be brought down with other weapons.no way they should be kill someone so fast.please nerf the shotguns in this game. |
iceyburnz
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
669
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Posted - 2013.06.12 15:08:00 -
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Commander Crispy wrote:THey are way to overpower.need to be brought down with other weapons.no way they should be kill someone so fast.please nerf the shotguns in this game.
Shotguns arn't over powered. See a shotgun? Back pedal like crazy, they have an effective range of about 2m.
Everyone in this game seems to run forward shooting. This is usually a mistake all guns have an optimal range, you in this band you do most damage.
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Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
1406
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Posted - 2013.06.12 15:09:00 -
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If you're letting a shotgunner get close enough to kill you, that's on you. |
Commander Crispy
DepartmentOfCorruption
1
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Posted - 2013.06.12 15:12:00 -
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dont matter they need a nerf at close ranged.in gneral it needs a nerf.i should not have to run away.fight him head on in close range.like i said the shotgun needs a big nerf.and a few other things in this game the need a nerf weapons are not that well balance in this game. |
Sgt Buttscratch
G I A N T EoN.
115
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Posted - 2013.06.12 15:19:00 -
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If a shotgunner is 4 ft away, then your his *****, any further than that, smg his ass down.(smg vs them lil bouncy scouts is prime)
I understand the need for the use of caps i your title, but the reality is, the SG needs a little help if anything, I'd say a bigger spread due to how annoying the aiming can be. |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
1407
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Posted - 2013.06.12 15:21:00 -
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Commander Crispy wrote:dont matter they need a nerf at close ranged.in gneral it needs a nerf.i should not have to run away.fight him head on in close range.like i said the shotgun needs a big nerf.and a few other things in this game the need a nerf weapons are not that well balance in this game. I'm going to try to say this as nice as possible:
Please learn how to play Dust 514.
This isn't just a generic FPS where everyone has the same HP and everything does the same damage. There's a deep layer of metagaming involving niche play styles and you need to respect those niche play styles by learning how to properly counter them instead of coming on the forum and crying for nerfs. That shotgunner put a lot of practice and trial and error to learn how even get within his effective range to kill you efficiently. The least you can do is acknowlege that "Hey, that shotgunner was pretty good" and respawn to show them that you're better. But instead we're repeating the same goddamned mistakes that we did since closed beta because people never want to learn this game. This is why everything gets nerfed into the ground and quite frankly, newer content is coming into the game pre-nerfed to spare your tears.
PS: Shotguns were already nerfed in Uprising 1.0... |
iceyburnz
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
673
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Posted - 2013.06.12 15:32:00 -
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Commander Crispy wrote:dont matter they need a nerf at close ranged.in gneral it needs a nerf.i should not have to run away.fight him head on in close range.like i said the shotgun needs a big nerf.and a few other things in this game the need a nerf weapons are not that well balance in this game.
Im sorry but 'running away' is sort of part and parcel of the game.
Your logic doesn't make any sense. And your probably going to get trolled by other members of the community.
I'll be nice and explain why what you ask for isn't possible.
Lets say its not a shotgun guy but someone else say, against a really good player with the best gear, according to your logic, you shouldn't have to back off and find a better target, you should just win. If not its unbalanced? Or lets say, a sniper. He shouldn't be able to kill you at long range because that would be unbalanced? Your not really complaining about weapon balance then, are you.
Shotguns are meant to excell in close range. They are infact close range weapons.
The tactic to beat them is to engage outside thier weapon range.
From your subsiquent post I would like to disagree that shotguns are overpowered. They are meant to excell at close range. If you want to beat a shotgun user find the weakness of the weapon and exploit it. |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
671
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Posted - 2013.06.12 15:37:00 -
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Commander Crispy wrote:dont matter they need a nerf at close ranged.in gneral it needs a nerf.i should not have to run away.fight him head on in close range.like i said the shotgun needs a big nerf.and a few other things in this game the need a nerf weapons are not that well balance in this game.
Yes you should have to run away. Or die. Take your pick. You seem to not understand the concept of balance at all.
I'm guessing that you expect to run up, in the open, with your AR, and bunny hop around until your opponent is dead right? Shouldn't matter what weapon they're using, or at what range, or what kind of cover is around, right?
Let's hope Dust never accommodates you. |
Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
189
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Posted - 2013.06.12 15:51:00 -
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lol HTFU! |
Ops Fox
ZionTCD Unclaimed.
272
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Posted - 2013.06.12 15:54:00 -
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Commander Crispy wrote:dont matter they need a nerf at close ranged.in gneral it needs a nerf.i should not have to run away.fight him head on in close range.like i said the shotgun needs a big nerf.and a few other things in this game the need a nerf weapons are not that well balance in this game.
I constantly fall victim to shotguns with my ARs/SMG set up but thats the point they are the best close range weapon they are working as intended. They do not need a nerf that would just ruin, the weapon they need to be effective at their selective niche or else they wont be used.
Sgt Buttscratch wrote:If a shotgunner is 4 ft away, then your his *****, any further than that, smg his ass down.(smg vs them lil bouncy scouts is prime)
I understand the need for the use of caps i your title, but the reality is, the SG needs a little help if anything, I'd say a bigger spread due to how annoying the aiming can be.
While Im against a nerf I am against thing the current OHK Shotgun does not need a more spread, maybe if we got a non-OHK minmatar shotgun then that would be ideal for a lots of close quarters with high spread, Stand in a room empty 3 or 4 shells(maybe 5 for heavies) and walk away.
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Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
1415
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Posted - 2013.06.12 15:58:00 -
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Ops Fox wrote: While Im against a nerf I am against thing the current OHK Shotgun does not need a more spread, maybe if we got a non-OHK minmatar shotgun then that would be ideal for a lots of close quarters with high spread, Stand in a room empty 3 or 4 shells(maybe 5 for heavies) and walk away.
Minmatar shotgun should operate like a 12 gauge. Gallente shotty is kind of like a sawed off, but we should get a mid ranged lower spread shotty as well. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1534
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Posted - 2013.06.12 16:21:00 -
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My knives > shotguns |
iceyburnz
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
681
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Posted - 2013.06.12 16:22:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:My knives > shotguns
Comfirming your knives are scary. |
Ops Fox
ZionTCD Unclaimed.
272
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Posted - 2013.06.12 16:27:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Ops Fox wrote: While Im against a nerf I am against thing the current OHK Shotgun does not need a more spread, maybe if we got a non-OHK minmatar shotgun then that would be ideal for a lots of close quarters with high spread, Stand in a room empty 3 or 4 shells(maybe 5 for heavies) and walk away.
Minmatar shotgun should operate like a 12 gauge. Gallente shotty is kind of like a sawed off, but we should get a mid ranged lower spread shotty as well. I can see the Caldari version acting more like a medium range 12 guage simply because there chosen Weapon, the railgun, already has a habit of firing things at insane speeds. I sticky with my suggestion that the miny shotty should be a non-ohk shotty with lots of spread. |
RoundEy3
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
55
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Posted - 2013.06.12 16:34:00 -
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Yeah, ok lets make the shotgun bad at the only range it does anything useful in. Might as well delete it from the game if you want that.
Boo for a bad, bad nerf request |
Chinduko
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
187
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Posted - 2013.06.12 17:12:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:If you're letting a shotgunner get close enough to kill you, that's on you.
Plus with the lousy hit detection on top of getting close! The OP must not have played in the last build when hit detection wasn't an issue and when scouts had a good suit!
Shotguns were to be feared in Chromosome.
I am relieved to see a shotgun in Uprising. Now, if an AR or flaylock user is near, that's a different story. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
2672
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Posted - 2013.06.12 17:55:00 -
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Commander Crispy wrote:THey are way to overpower.need to be brought down with other weapons.no way they should be kill someone so fast.please nerf the shotguns in this game.
Dude, do you have any idea how hard it is to get a decent shot with the shotgun? Just like ninja knifers, those folks deserve to one-shot you if you let them get that close to you. So stop hating on shotguns. Also, stay away from my knives.
My 1,200 HP Damage nova knives. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1535
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Posted - 2013.06.12 18:26:00 -
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iceyburnz wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:My knives > shotguns Comfirming your knives are scary. Partially because it takes 1 uncharged slash to OHK most suits I come across. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
4324
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Posted - 2013.06.12 18:33:00 -
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Please my a new character, spend skill points into shotguns, and use them yourself; then tell me if they'e OP. |
Eldest Dragon
D3LTA ACADEMY
32
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Posted - 2013.06.12 18:55:00 -
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iceyburnz wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:My knives > shotguns Comfirming your knives are scary.
for sure, lmfao, =p |
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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
213
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Posted - 2013.06.12 19:01:00 -
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I use nova knives to kill shot gunners if anything they need a buff |
Eris Ernaga
Super Nerds
199
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Posted - 2013.06.12 19:46:00 -
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Commander Crispy wrote:THey are way to overpower.need to be brought down with other weapons.no way they should be kill someone so fast.please nerf the shotguns in this game.
I can run through a proto heavy in two shots and I get up really close to him seconds in a militia scout. |
Eris Ernaga
Super Nerds
199
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Posted - 2013.06.12 19:46:00 -
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I feel militia shotguns needa be nerfed but everything else is up to level. |
St Evilsbitch
HavoK Core RISE of LEGION
59
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Posted - 2013.06.12 19:55:00 -
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Stupid nerf thread is stupid. |
Omareth Nasadra
Rebelles A Quebec Orion Empire
12
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Posted - 2013.06.12 19:56:00 -
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yo OP, my allotek got 2 shell before i gotta recharge, how many clip should i rain on your face before you feel good about it's balance |
Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
2675
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Posted - 2013.06.12 20:04:00 -
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Omareth Nasadra wrote:yo OP, my allotek got 2 shell before i gotta recharge, how many clip should i rain on your face before you feel good about it's balance
Don't you see? He's down on his knees wanting to take it in the face. |
DeathwindRising
ROGUE SPADES EoN.
27
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Posted - 2013.06.12 20:17:00 -
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Commander Crispy wrote:dont matter they need a nerf at close ranged.in gneral it needs a nerf.i should not have to run away.fight him head on in close range.like i said the shotgun needs a big nerf.and a few other things in this game the need a nerf weapons are not that well balance in this game.
your sir, are a simple minded fool |
Z3R0 GR4VITY
HavoK Core RISE of LEGION
236
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Posted - 2013.06.12 21:40:00 -
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Shotguns are currently really hard to get a good shot on someone. The shotguns spread does not spread out circularly like one would think. If you're closeup with a shotgun and you're a fraction off from the target that you wish to hit, most if not all the spread will miss the target. If they were to fix these problems, then I could see a slight nerf to damage. |
D legendary hero
One-Armed Bandits Unclaimed.
157
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Posted - 2013.06.12 21:46:00 -
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Commander Crispy wrote:THey are way to overpower.need to be brought down with other weapons.no way they should be kill someone so fast.please nerf the shotguns in this game.
you must use AR. STFU.
~~sincerely common sense |
D legendary hero
One-Armed Bandits Unclaimed.
157
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Posted - 2013.06.12 21:50:00 -
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Z3R0 GR4VITY wrote:Shotguns are currently really hard to get a good shot on someone. The shotguns spread does not spread out circularly like one would think. If you're closeup with a shotgun and you're a fraction off from the target that you wish to hit, most if not all the spread will miss the target. If they were to fix these problems, then I could see a slight nerf to damage.
no shotguns are fine with spread because when you level them up the dispersion fixes itself. i use the 'dren' shotgun with no damage mods and its good, but the aiming system combined with the over nerfed range make it weak.
when CCP fixes the range, and the aiming system shotguns will be balanced out. shotguns will get the slightly greater range they need, and the user will actually be able to hit their target. never nerf shotgun damage, it defeats the point to the weapon. |
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Z3R0 GR4VITY
HavoK Core RISE of LEGION
236
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Posted - 2013.06.12 22:19:00 -
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D legendary hero wrote:Z3R0 GR4VITY wrote:Shotguns are currently really hard to get a good shot on someone. The shotguns spread does not spread out circularly like one would think. If you're closeup with a shotgun and you're a fraction off from the target that you wish to hit, most if not all the spread will miss the target. If they were to fix these problems, then I could see a slight nerf to damage. no shotguns are fine with spread because when you level them up the dispersion fixes itself. i use the 'dren' shotgun with no damage mods and its good, but the aiming system combined with the over nerfed range make it weak. when CCP fixes the range, and the aiming system shotguns will be balanced out. shotguns will get the slightly greater range they need, and the user will actually be able to hit their target. never nerf shotgun damage, it defeats the point to the weapon.
I'm fully leveled into shotguns and the skill does not do justice to the gun. By spread I mean the fact that it should spread outward in a circular fashion, currently the gun speads in a linear fashion making it even harder to hit your target. |
KEROSIINI-TERO
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
444
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Posted - 2013.06.12 22:44:00 -
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Shotguns are actually weakest in a long long time right now. Well, excluding memory leak maps of last fall (in one frame per second shotguns become useless, automatic weps might get some kills) |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
1441
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Posted - 2013.06.12 22:54:00 -
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Since we're talking about bad hit detection here's a protip for shotgunners: Train yourself to compensate for hit box latency. It's not as drastic as my example, but there's a bit of latency that clocks in at a few fractions of a second that can help with landing hits. As long as you get ~half of your marker on someone, it'll still register as a direct hit. This is especially useful when someone tries to strafe and even more drastic when back pedaling since you move faster than you would laterally. |
xXCleopatra FlippantXx
Silver Sand Social Club
8
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Posted - 2013.06.12 23:15:00 -
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just be more on the lookout, jeez. I kill more scouts with my AR as they try to gain on me by far, then they kill me, and only cuz they dident get a whole shot in the first one. Let them keep what they have, All hail the scouts |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
1442
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Posted - 2013.06.12 23:21:00 -
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At this point, I'm more afraid of Minmatar scouts with nova knives than any other scouts with a shotty. It's like fighting Nightcrawler from the begging of X-2... |
Commander Crispy
DepartmentOfCorruption
3
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Posted - 2013.06.12 23:38:00 -
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I really don't care what u people think.shotguns need a nerf.not be a 1 hit kill.Nerf them.and a lot of other weapons need a nerf.
A |
Andius Fidelitas
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
73
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Posted - 2013.06.12 23:40:00 -
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Shotguns needing a nerf??
BHAHAHAHAHAH, what a laughable ploy.... |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
1445
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Posted - 2013.06.12 23:45:00 -
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Commander Crispy wrote:I really don't care what u people think.shotguns need a nerf.not be a 1 hit kill.Nerf them.and a lot of other weapons need a nerf.
A Try making a MLT scout suit with a shotty and give it a try and see how OP they are...
Also, everything except the AR has been nerfed to the levels of novelty compared to the AR this build. You would have been really pissed in Chromosome when the MD actually worked. |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
680
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Posted - 2013.06.12 23:46:00 -
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Commander Crispy wrote:I really don't care what u people think.shotguns need a nerf.not be a 1 hit kill.Nerf them.and a lot of other weapons need a nerf.
A
ARs should be first on that list, but then again, that's what you use right, so that can't need a nerf?
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Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
1445
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Posted - 2013.06.12 23:51:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote:Commander Crispy wrote:I really don't care what u people think.shotguns need a nerf.not be a 1 hit kill.Nerf them.and a lot of other weapons need a nerf.
A ARs should be first on that list, but then again, that's what you use right, so that can't need a nerf? ARs just got another ninja buff since the TAC AR got a love tap from the nerf bat. I can't put my finger on it, but I want to say they have less dispersion, kick, and 5~6m more range. |
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Rachoi
HavoK Core RISE of LEGION
93
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Posted - 2013.06.12 23:54:00 -
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i say shotguns need some more oomph, and possibly a boost when used by Gallente Scouts [cause lets face it, NK MinScout against a ShottyGalScout would be awesome to see if that were to happen]since both are gonna be REALLY in your face, or REALLY far away.
side note; with how close shotguns and Nova Knives actually have to be, i support them being super damage weapons, cause most people will gun you down if t hey see yuou coming |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
1446
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Posted - 2013.06.12 23:58:00 -
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This has to be a troll thread. It is right? Come on, admit it and I'll even give you a free like. |
Brutus Va'Khan
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
10
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Posted - 2013.06.12 23:58:00 -
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Commander Crispy wrote:dont matter they need a nerf at close ranged.in gneral it needs a nerf.i should not have to run away.fight him head on in close range.like i said the shotgun needs a big nerf.and a few other things in this game the need a nerf weapons are not that well balance in this game. He really just said "I should charge in on a shotgun with my scrub AR and win. Everything should lose to me. Always."
Don't know if trolling or really THAT stupid... |
WeapondigitX V7
Planetary Response Organization
13
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Posted - 2013.06.13 03:42:00 -
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Shotguns do not need another nerf. They were fine in chromosome. Wish they were like they were in chromosome. |
PO0KY
Armored Wolves Alpha Wolf Pack
10
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Posted - 2013.06.13 03:44:00 -
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Hmmmm... You're a special breed of stupid, aren't you? |
Talos Alomar
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
933
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Posted - 2013.06.13 03:45:00 -
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I didn't even read the thread. OP, you should just HTFU |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
1477
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Posted - 2013.06.13 03:47:00 -
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This has to be the best troll thread in history or I should have a permanent hand imprint on my forehead from face palming so hard. |
Artificer Ghost
Bojo's School of the Trades
103
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Posted - 2013.06.13 04:21:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:My knives > shotguns
I've only been on your squad, but I can literally see the terror you strike into the very pixels of your enemies. I've seen one encounter where you actually killed someone what was freaking out: Movie Style. I was like, "WHY AM I NOT MAKING MONEY OFF THIS GUY!?" xD
To OP: You need to learn to play the game. Sorry, I promise, but that's how it is. As I say in most (If not all) Nerf Threads I find:
The gun doesn't need a nerf: The players need a nerf.
You remind me of the guy that gets hit by a tank while you're trying to attack it with a Nanite Injector, and then cries that Tanks are OP. You're jsut fighting it the wrong way. AV the Tank, the same way you would back off from a Shotgunner. 90% of the time (Outside of Academy, and jsut generally against better players), I have to switch to my SMG because the darn peeps are smart enough to back the truck up. Of course, a Heavy still can't compete with me and my speed, but the HMG sometimes gets me right in the hole. :P |
Calamity Jane II
TeamPlayers EoN.
109
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Posted - 2013.06.13 07:48:00 -
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I'm 100% positive this post is here because of me. earlier on the 12th I had a great game where i went 57-9 got 4025 wp and made 745K isk. Sadly the commander was on the other team and left me some precious hate mail describing how i have a skill less gun and proceeded to say i was a scrub etc all while saying telling me to to **** myself. LMAO i should post the hate mail for fun. Either way I believe the beloved commander just happened to be on the business end of my shotgun for what was one of my best rounds in uprising so far. So ill take the the blame for this bad thread just like when you take the blame for a really wicked fart in an elevator that wasn't yours but lingered after the original person dealt it.
That being said, be happy you only got an uprising shotgun commander, the chromosome shotgun would have made you quit the game all together. If you think what i did to you this morning was unfair or "OP" you should have been here when i could OHK you from 40 yards and miss the shot once in a blue moon. None of this uprising shotty where OHK is about punching distance and every other round is a blank. In your unfortunate case, its wasn't the shotgun that is OP, its just you happened to meet me in a dark alleyway and i already had my S&M tools ready for the first unfortunate fool who walked my way.
The gun isn't the problem, I am, and you can't nerf that. |
Rusty Shallows
Black Jackals
99
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Posted - 2013.06.13 08:28:00 -
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Shotgun's are fine. People who specialize in them earn their kills.
Eris Ernaga wrote:I feel militia shotguns needa be nerfed but everything else is up to level. All the militia weapons need some degree of nerfing. Nothing so bad as Civilian stuff in Eve but people should feel pressured to actually spend isk for combat performance. Maybe blocking skill bonuses to them. |
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Godin Thekiller
Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack
145
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Posted - 2013.06.13 08:40:00 -
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This is clearly a troll thread. Just look at that spelling
Peace, Godin |
Godin Thekiller
Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack
145
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Posted - 2013.06.13 08:41:00 -
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Calamity Jane II wrote:I'm 100% positive this post is here because of me. earlier on the 12th I had a great game where i went 57-9 got 4025 wp and made 745K isk. Sadly the commander was on the other team and left me some precious hate mail describing how i have a skill less gun and proceeded to say i was a scrub etc all while saying telling me to to **** myself. LMAO i should post the hate mail for fun. Either way I believe the beloved commander just happened to be on the business end of my shotgun for what was one of my best rounds in uprising so far. So ill take the the blame for this bad thread just like when you take the blame for a really wicked fart in an elevator that wasn't yours but lingered after the original person dealt it.
That being said, be happy you only got an uprising shotgun commander, the chromosome shotgun would have made you quit the game all together. If you think what i did to you this morning was unfair or "OP" you should have been here when i could OHK you from 40 yards and miss the shot once in a blue moon. None of this uprising shotty where OHK is about punching distance and every other round is a blank. In your unfortunate case, its wasn't the shotgun that is OP, its just you happened to meet me in a dark alleyway and i already had my S&M tools ready for the first unfortunate fool who walked my way.
The gun isn't the problem, I am, and you can't nerf that.
gj Master Jane, gj.
Peace, Godin |
Joey-Number1
Maniacal Miners INC The Omega Industries
48
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Posted - 2013.06.13 11:05:00 -
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They ve been nerfed enough, to that point that you need to try hard to be good with them. |
BOZ MR
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
248
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Posted - 2013.06.13 11:46:00 -
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Commander Crispy wrote:THey are way to overpower.need to be brought down with other weapons.no way they should be kill someone so fast.please nerf the shotguns in this game. Go play CoD. |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
1533
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Posted - 2013.06.13 13:35:00 -
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Calamity Jane II wrote:The gun isn't the problem, I am, and you can't nerf that. They can nerf a weapon to the point that nobody wants to use it. Look at Uprising. |
Laurent Cazaderon
What The French CRONOS.
1563
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Posted - 2013.06.13 13:54:00 -
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Commander Crispy wrote:THey are way to overpower.need to be brought down with other weapons.no way they should be kill someone so fast.please nerf the shotguns in this game.
Shotguns already took a huge hit with the range skill being taken out. It's a CQC weapon that deals high damage. No wonder it can OHK even a very strong suit at point blank in the face. |
RoundEy3
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
61
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Posted - 2013.06.13 14:09:00 -
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Laurent Cazaderon wrote:Commander Crispy wrote:THey are way to overpower.need to be brought down with other weapons.no way they should be kill someone so fast.please nerf the shotguns in this game. Shotguns already took a huge hit with the range skill being taken out. It's a CQC weapon that deals high damage. No wonder it can OHK even a very strong suit at point blank in the face.
It has been spoken... The shotgun, in it's rightful and given place under the suns and stars, shall owneth thou`st face in harmony from this day forth. |
Commander Crispy
DepartmentOfCorruption
3
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Posted - 2013.06.14 13:53:00 -
[58] - Quote
That's why this game will stay at the bottom.never have the crowd other shooters and games have.this game is bad.has the smallest population I ever seen.I see why it was free to play no one would buy this game.enjoy ur less then 6000 people who make up this game.therw way better games coming anyways will make this game look even worse.this game is to unbalanced needs to be more like other shooters. U have to spend way to many way hours ro be good to get skill points.
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IR Scifi
Silver Talon Corporation
37
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Posted - 2013.06.14 18:08:00 -
[59] - Quote
Shotguns seem like a "working as intended" weapon to me (one of the few IMHO), if they get in range they will definitely wreck your **** but are pretty harmless outside of it. |
Lilah Silverstone
The Arrow Project
95
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Posted - 2013.06.14 18:49:00 -
[60] - Quote
I wouldn't mind a slight range buff as the natural spread will counteract the increase, but at least give you some chance to hit stuff on the verge of where you'd swap to an smg. |
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Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
1683
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Posted - 2013.06.14 18:51:00 -
[61] - Quote
Commander Crispy wrote:That's why this game will stay at the bottom.never have the crowd other shooters and games have.this game is bad.has the smallest population I ever seen.I see why it was free to play no one would buy this game.enjoy ur less then 6000 people who make up this game.therw way better games coming anyways will make this game look even worse.this game is to unbalanced needs to be more like other shooters. U have to spend way to many way hours ro be good to get skill points.
And not a single grammar was given this thread...
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Tankin Tarkus
Quafe Runners
34
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Posted - 2013.06.14 19:03:00 -
[62] - Quote
Commander Crispy wrote:That's why this game will stay at the bottom.never have the crowd other shooters and games have.this game is bad.has the smallest population I ever seen.I see why it was free to play no one would buy this game.enjoy ur less then 6000 people who make up this game.therw way better games coming anyways will make this game look even worse.this game is to unbalanced needs to be more like other shooters. U have to spend way to many way hours ro be good to get skill points.
dude its an MMO all MMO's require grinding to be good.... atleast this game gives that new player a chance to kill the protos(right place right time) any other MMO it doesnt matter how skilled you are a lv1 wouldnt have a chance against a lv60 |
LeGoose
SAM-MIK
0
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Posted - 2013.06.15 02:41:00 -
[63] - Quote
Nom nom nom the tears of CoD players fuel my shotgun. |
Cass Barr
Red Star. EoN.
273
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Posted - 2013.06.15 03:47:00 -
[64] - Quote
OP gets an ironic Like.
+1 good troll |
OZAROW
Elements Of Death Elite Omega Commission
31
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Posted - 2013.06.15 03:57:00 -
[65] - Quote
Commander Crispy wrote:THey are way to overpower.need to be brought down with other weapons.no way they should be kill someone so fast.please nerf the shotguns in this game. Sssssssshhhhhhhhh! Dude they been crap since uprising they just balanced them an their not as good as before but if a guy one shots your face u shouldn't be reloading! A shot gun gotta be ten feet from u if u let that happen u deserve to die end of story, don't touch em use em! |
Meeko Fent
Mercenary incorperated
67
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Posted - 2013.06.15 04:46:00 -
[66] - Quote
Commander Crispy wrote:dont matter they need a nerf at close ranged.in gneral it needs a nerf.i should not have to run away.fight him head on in close range.like i said the shotgun needs a big nerf.and a few other things in this game the need a nerf weapons are not that well balance in this game. Learn to use proper punctuation and provide reasons why you should never have to make a retreat from your foe, then I'll think about supporting this, because right now it seems you got killed be niche weapon doing what it does best, munch qqers like you in cqc |
Meeko Fent
Mercenary incorperated
67
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Posted - 2013.06.15 05:32:00 -
[67] - Quote
Commander Crispy wrote:That's why this game will stay at the bottom.never have the crowd other shooters and games have.this game is bad.has the smallest population I ever seen.I see why it was free to play no one would buy this game.enjoy ur less then 6000 people who make up this game.therw way better games coming anyways will make this game look even worse.this game is to unbalanced needs to be more like other shooters. U have to spend way to many way hours ro be good to get skill points.
As to add to my prior post, this is not other games. This is dust. If we want it to be like other games, then we should delete every other weapon and dropsuit then the AR and Assault. That and unlock every weapon in the game automatically
But what does it matter? Your obviously a 12 year old or a troll, so lets just stop it here |
OZAROW
Elements Of Death Elite Omega Commission
31
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Posted - 2013.06.15 05:44:00 -
[68] - Quote
Meeko Fent wrote:Commander Crispy wrote:That's why this game will stay at the bottom.never have the crowd other shooters and games have.this game is bad.has the smallest population I ever seen.I see why it was free to play no one would buy this game.enjoy ur less then 6000 people who make up this game.therw way better games coming anyways will make this game look even worse.this game is to unbalanced needs to be more like other shooters. U have to spend way to many way hours ro be good to get skill points.
As to add to my prior post, this is not other games. This is dust. If we want it to be like other games, then we should delete every other weapon and dropsuit then the AR and Assault. That and unlock every weapon in the game automatically But what does it matter? Your obviously a 12 year old or a troll, so lets just stop it here Lol personally I think we should keep ripping this thread cuz personally I think in reality if you could sneak up on a grizzly bear an shot gun it in the back of the head it would die no? Lol of course if u had the gonads, thank god for video games , an forums for whiners to ruin them! |
Encharrion
L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION
107
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Posted - 2013.06.15 06:08:00 -
[69] - Quote
Commander Crispy wrote:dont matter they need a nerf at close ranged.in gneral it needs a nerf.i should not have to run away.fight him head on in close range.like i said the shotgun needs a big nerf.and a few other things in this game the need a nerf weapons are not that well balance in this game.
I don't normally say this as it is usually not helpful in the slightest, but in this case it's apt...
Adapt or Die.
No, really, you have to pay attention to what your enemy is doing in this game and change your tactics accordingly. You don't get to pretend everyone else is irrelevant. |
D legendary hero
Strong-Arm
166
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Posted - 2013.06.15 08:13:00 -
[70] - Quote
Calamity Jane II wrote: The gun isn't the problem, I am, and you can't nerf that.
^^thats scary.
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D legendary hero
Strong-Arm
166
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Posted - 2013.06.15 08:17:00 -
[71] - Quote
Commander Crispy wrote:I really don't care what u people think.shotguns need a nerf.not be a 1 hit kill.Nerf them.and a lot of other weapons need a nerf.
A
ARs need a nerf. But your skills need a buff, like your face. hahaha seriously, this made my day.
shotguns and everything else actually need a buff. have you seen the kill feeds in any given match? 90% are ARs before and after the TAC nerf. the server kill counts by weapon show that ARs acount for more than 75% of all kills, next is orbitals and then everything else. HTFU |
xXCleopatra FlippantXx
Silver Sand Social Club
9
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Posted - 2013.06.15 11:03:00 -
[72] - Quote
Commander Crispy wrote:I really don't care what u people think.shotguns need a nerf.not be a 1 hit kill.Nerf them.and a lot of other weapons need a nerf.
A
you'll get the hang of it if u stick with
Rule 1: from Sun Tzu's art of war: ALLWAYS know your terrain! so you dont get torn up by ANYTHING! this is entirely possible, but because of vengance needed and ppl generally not taking their time they end up with up in bad terrain with nessesarily bad K/D. Take your time FFS. Rule 2: Life is x3 better in a nice squad Rule 3: Allways use MAX shield extenders instead of rechargers if u dont wanna get popped to fast Rule 4: Killing noobs that dont follow rule 1 is good for K/D and they allways stick out like sore thumbs and easy bacon so dont think it weird if u think some guns are over powered if you dont follow rule 1. Rule 5:(Upprising rule) NEVER take on someone using Tactical assult rifles, just dont do it! run far around, order a LAV, wait untill there is a rush, preferably flank them fast and hard, but please do take the long way with these minstrels of griefing. Rule 6: from Sun Tzu's art of war, The unsuspecting enemy is the best! flank, and contribute to the breaking of theire wave.
Follow these rules and you'll have a gooder time=D c u on the battlefield |
Shotty GoBang
Pro Hic Immortalis
66
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Posted - 2013.06.17 17:12:00 -
[73] - Quote
Calamity Jane II wrote:I'm 100% positive this post is here because of me.
Quit being good, Jane . You and Annie will get us nerfed, again.
- Shotty GoBang
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Draco Cerberus
Purgatorium of the Damned League of Infamy
124
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Posted - 2013.06.17 17:42:00 -
[74] - Quote
Godin Thekiller wrote:Calamity Jane II wrote:I'm 100% positive this post is here because of me. earlier on the 12th I had a great game where i went 57-9 got 4025 wp and made 745K isk. Sadly the commander was on the other team and left me some precious hate mail describing how i have a skill less gun and proceeded to say i was a scrub etc all while saying telling me to to **** myself. LMAO i should post the hate mail for fun. Either way I believe the beloved commander just happened to be on the business end of my shotgun for what was one of my best rounds in uprising so far. So ill take the the blame for this bad thread just like when you take the blame for a really wicked fart in an elevator that wasn't yours but lingered after the original person dealt it.
That being said, be happy you only got an uprising shotgun commander, the chromosome shotgun would have made you quit the game all together. If you think what i did to you this morning was unfair or "OP" you should have been here when i could OHK you from 40 yards and miss the shot once in a blue moon. None of this uprising shotty where OHK is about punching distance and every other round is a blank. In your unfortunate case, its wasn't the shotgun that is OP, its just you happened to meet me in a dark alleyway and i already had my S&M tools ready for the first unfortunate fool who walked my way.
The gun isn't the problem, I am, and you can't nerf that. gj Master Jane, gj. Peace, Godin Wow, I will always feel privileged to be on the end of your shotgun Jane, and even more when I see you first and kill you. Nice work with the 57-9 and keep the good Commander on his toes, he's not nearly crispy enough. |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
1804
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Posted - 2013.06.17 17:47:00 -
[75] - Quote
OZAROW wrote: Lol personally I think we should keep ripping this thread cuz personally I think in reality if you could sneak up on a grizzly bear an shot gun it in the back of the head it would die no? Lol of course if u had the gonads, thank god for video games , an forums for whiners to ruin them!
Better idea, everyone should keep a shotgun fit saved for when the encounter the commander here.
*Click, click!*
Come nerf me bro! |
Flint Beastgood III
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
4
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Posted - 2013.06.17 17:48:00 -
[76] - Quote
iceyburnz wrote:Commander Crispy wrote:THey are way to overpower.need to be brought down with other weapons.no way they should be kill someone so fast.please nerf the shotguns in this game. Shotguns arn't over powered. See a shotgun? Back pedal like crazy, they have an effective range of about 2m. Everyone in this game seems to run forward shooting. This is usually a mistake all guns have an optimal range, youget target into this band you do most damage.
I know, right?
And also @ OP, u shouldn't die from a few shots from a shotgun? Really? Try taking a few yourself and see how it works out for you. When a shotgunner runs up behind me and kills me with one shot, it is a little annoying but it's not worth crying about, I just go on a revenge mission :) The ONLY deaths that I am bothered about in this game are those that I incur by jumping out of my driver-side door and somehow end up being run over by my own LAV!! Now that is a problem. Murder taxis don't bother me at all. If that's what some people wanna do, so be it. I have now skilled into Swarms and AV nades and so I end up with more kills against LAVs than deaths by their lazy drivers. Many of the so-called problems with this game are only problems due to the fact that people are unable to adapt. The real problem with this game is the bugs, so many so that this really should still be in beta and NOT making CCP so much money via the store. Why would they fix bugs when they can just keep releasing new stuff that (often) creates more bugs, knowing that people will continue to fund them? I know they are working hard to fix bugs, I'm not knocking them on that, but they should stop releasing things until each bug is sorted. Once all bugs are fixed, release something new. If that causes bugs, fix those before any more releases. Simple. |
Draco Cerberus
Purgatorium of the Damned League of Infamy
124
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Posted - 2013.06.17 17:50:00 -
[77] - Quote
D legendary hero wrote:Commander Crispy wrote:I really don't care what u people think.shotguns need a nerf.not be a 1 hit kill.Nerf them.and a lot of other weapons need a nerf.
A ARs need a nerf. But your skills need a buff, like your face. hahaha seriously, this made my day. shotguns and everything else actually need a buff. have you seen the kill feeds in any given match? 90% are ARs before and after the TAC nerf. the server kill counts by weapon show that ARs acount for more than 75% of all kills, next is orbitals and then everything else. HTFU
Just because 90% of players use an AR does not mean it needs a nerf, it just means they jumped at a chance for some range with their weapon in this build. If you look at the kill feed from my pub matches, the majority of the time I will drop a person with either a grenade or a blueprint assault rifle. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that the AR doesn't need a nerf because I kill a large number of people with it (depressingly low KDR) but because it is meant to be an easy and reliable weapon for any noob to use. One that has less range than a Scrambler or Sniper rifle and one that unless it is skilled into it still will not decimate, contrary to popular belief from people saving money fitting by using militia gear when they can quite clearly use Officer level gear just as easily. |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
1806
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Posted - 2013.06.17 17:54:00 -
[78] - Quote
Draco Cerberus wrote:D legendary hero wrote:Commander Crispy wrote:I really don't care what u people think.shotguns need a nerf.not be a 1 hit kill.Nerf them.and a lot of other weapons need a nerf.
A ARs need a nerf. But your skills need a buff, like your face. hahaha seriously, this made my day. shotguns and everything else actually need a buff. have you seen the kill feeds in any given match? 90% are ARs before and after the TAC nerf. the server kill counts by weapon show that ARs acount for more than 75% of all kills, next is orbitals and then everything else. HTFU Just because 90% of players use an AR does not mean it needs a nerf, it just means they jumped at a chance for some range with their weapon in this build. If you look at the kill feed from my pub matches, the majority of the time I will drop a person with either a grenade or a blueprint assault rifle. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that the AR doesn't need a nerf because I kill a large number of people with it (depressingly low KDR) but because it is meant to be an easy and reliable weapon for any noob to use. One that has less range than a Scrambler or Sniper rifle and one that unless it is skilled into it still will not decimate, contrary to popular belief from people saving money fitting by using militia gear when they can quite clearly use Officer level gear just as easily. 90% of players using the AR means that there's something wrong with weapon balance at the moment. I agree the AR doesn't need a nerf, but everything else needs a buff then. |
Draco Cerberus
Purgatorium of the Damned League of Infamy
125
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Posted - 2013.06.17 18:49:00 -
[79] - Quote
Cosgar wrote:Draco Cerberus wrote:D legendary hero wrote:Commander Crispy wrote:I really don't care what u people think.shotguns need a nerf.not be a 1 hit kill.Nerf them.and a lot of other weapons need a nerf.
A ARs need a nerf. But your skills need a buff, like your face. hahaha seriously, this made my day. shotguns and everything else actually need a buff. have you seen the kill feeds in any given match? 90% are ARs before and after the TAC nerf. the server kill counts by weapon show that ARs acount for more than 75% of all kills, next is orbitals and then everything else. HTFU Just because 90% of players use an AR does not mean it needs a nerf, it just means they jumped at a chance for some range with their weapon in this build. If you look at the kill feed from my pub matches, the majority of the time I will drop a person with either a grenade or a blueprint assault rifle. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that the AR doesn't need a nerf because I kill a large number of people with it (depressingly low KDR) but because it is meant to be an easy and reliable weapon for any noob to use. One that has less range than a Scrambler or Sniper rifle and one that unless it is skilled into it still will not decimate, contrary to popular belief from people saving money fitting by using militia gear when they can quite clearly use Officer level gear just as easily. 90% of players using the AR means that there's something wrong with weapon balance at the moment. I agree the AR doesn't need a nerf, but everything else needs a buff then.
The weapons are all seemingly finely balanced it was the Uprising 1.0 Tac AR that drove people to the weapon class and they are a weapon that is featured prominently in most FPS games. CCP new this and put the weapon in for a genre familiarity bonus to new players. There are many weapons that kill quicker and they are being used more predominantly in the game. Buffing/nerfing something should only be done when there is an obvious imballance. The reason for the kill feeds reading AR the majority of the time is that people like the gun and use is because they put SP into them not because the other weapons don't work well, look at Calamity Jane and her devil gun |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
1813
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Posted - 2013.06.17 18:59:00 -
[80] - Quote
Draco Cerberus wrote:The weapons are all seemingly finely balanced it was the Uprising 1.0 Tac AR that drove people to the weapon class and they are a weapon that is featured prominently in most FPS games. CCP new this and put the weapon in for a genre familiarity bonus to new players. There are many weapons that kill quicker and they are being used more predominantly in the game. Buffing/nerfing something should only be done when there is an obvious imballance. The reason for the kill feeds reading AR the majority of the time is that people like the gun and use is because they put SP into them not because the other weapons don't work well, look at Calamity Jane and her devil gun
The laser has a horrible iron sight paired with lens flare which makes it difficult to see where you're shooting. The MD took a radius and splash nerf (based on how many people were using it in the office) and the nanohive nerf along with the HP buff all suits got killed the weapon and it's bugged. The HMG took a major damage/range nerf that literally killed the weapon but was buffed back up due to a petition. Scrambler rifle has a skill that does nothing for the assault variant and should have more range than the AR because it's a laser weapon. Plasma Cannon came in the game pre-nerfed.
The issue is that there isn't incentive for other weapons to be used outside of them looking cool, looking for a challenge, or their users are bored with the AR, which is the only reliable/serviceable weapon in the game right now. |
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Disturbingly Bored
Universal Allies Inc.
281
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Posted - 2013.06.17 19:00:00 -
[81] - Quote
Commander Crispy wrote:THey are way to overpower.need to be brought down with other weapons.no way they should be kill someone so fast.please nerf the shotguns in this game.
My simple proposal to fix shotguns:
GÇó Reduce projectiles per shot to one GÇó Lower projectile damage to 34 GÇó Increase ROF to 750 GÇó Reduce bullet spread and increase range to compensate GÇó Increase magazine side to 60 bullets
See? Now it's balanced! |
D legendary hero
One-Armed Bandits
197
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Posted - 2013.06.17 22:38:00 -
[82] - Quote
^^lolz |
Brutus Va'Khan
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
29
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Posted - 2013.06.17 22:47:00 -
[83] - Quote
Disturbingly Bored wrote:Commander Crispy wrote:THey are way to overpower.need to be brought down with other weapons.no way they should be kill someone so fast.please nerf the shotguns in this game. My simple proposal to fix shotguns: GÇó Reduce projectiles per shot to one GÇó Lower projectile damage to 34 GÇó Increase ROF to 750 GÇó Reduce bullet spread and increase range to compensate GÇó Increase magazine side to 60 bullets See? Now it's balanced! So liek seemz legitz. |
Ordrian Maxus
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
1
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Posted - 2013.06.18 23:59:00 -
[84] - Quote
I seriously hope this thread is a joke... the shotgun is balanced just fine! |
Dustin Peril
Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2013.06.19 04:14:00 -
[85] - Quote
Be your own Judge. What game looks like more fun to you? Dust.........Or this.........
Planetside 2
Coming to PS4 this year Insane Infantry Push Amazing Night Battle Night to Day Canyon Battle Intense Field Battle Desert Infantry Line Huge Desert Tank Battle 100 Tank Convoy 150 man Air Raid 65/0 Kill streak in the air
NC Montage
Factions Explained |
Gaelon Thrace
DUST University Ivy League
7
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Posted - 2013.06.19 05:07:00 -
[86] - Quote
Commander Crispy wrote:dont matter they need a nerf at close ranged.in gneral it needs a nerf.i should not have to run away.fight him head on in close range.like i said the shotgun needs a big nerf.and a few other things in this game the need a nerf weapons are not that well balance in this game. I have to run away from just about everything to not get dead. If I manage to get close enough to you to take you out with a shotgun then I damn well earned that kill. If I kill you with a shotgun because you ran up close to me even though you're using a weapon that gives you a massive advantage over me if you keep me at range, that's your own fault for being terrible at the game. |
Skipper Jones
ZionTCD
142
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Posted - 2013.06.19 05:19:00 -
[87] - Quote
It's supposed to be that way. It's a gun used for CQC. Powerful up close. All you have to do is back up while shooting at the shotgunner. |
Skipper Jones
ZionTCD
142
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Posted - 2013.06.19 05:25:00 -
[88] - Quote
Commander Crispy wrote:That's why this game will stay at the bottom.never have the crowd other shooters and games have.this game is bad.has the smallest population I ever seen.I see why it was free to play no one would buy this game.enjoy ur less then 6000 people who make up this game.therw way better games coming anyways will make this game look even worse.this game is to unbalanced needs to be more like other shooters. U have to spend way to many way hours ro be good to get skill points.
Did you know, That the game that is on the top (COD) shotguns are just as powerful, maybe even more powerful than the ones in Dust. It looks like you're just mad because you got killed by one. . |
Skipper Jones
ZionTCD
142
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Posted - 2013.06.19 05:26:00 -
[89] - Quote
Disturbingly Bored wrote:Commander Crispy wrote:THey are way to overpower.need to be brought down with other weapons.no way they should be kill someone so fast.please nerf the shotguns in this game. My simple proposal to fix shotguns: GÇó Reduce projectiles per shot to one GÇó Lower projectile damage to 34 GÇó Increase ROF to 750 GÇó Reduce bullet spread and increase range to compensate GÇó Increase magazine side to 60 bullets See? Now it's balanced!
CCP hire him. He knows what balance is |
Johnny Guilt
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
114
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Posted - 2013.06.22 19:22:00 -
[90] - Quote
They are fine damage wise,are you sure your not just getting killed by a militia/standard shotgun stacked with damage mods? |
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Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
2037
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Posted - 2013.06.22 19:35:00 -
[91] - Quote
Johnny Guilt wrote:They are fine damage wise,are you sure your not just getting killed by a militia/standard shotgun stacked with damage mods? Who has to use damage mods with a shotgun? |
Meeko Fent
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
96
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Posted - 2013.06.22 20:01:00 -
[92] - Quote
^^ Very good Question.
Maybe when Cloaks Come out that will be the New OP CQC fit. lawlz |
Meeko Fent
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
96
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Posted - 2013.06.22 20:04:00 -
[93] - Quote
RoundEy3 wrote:It has been spoken... The shotgun, in it's rightful and given place under the suns and stars, shall owneth thou`st face in harmony from this day forth. I Just Had to Repost this. It made Me Laugh so hard. |
Exergonic
TeamPlayers EoN.
117
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Posted - 2013.06.22 20:07:00 -
[94] - Quote
Cosgar wrote:Commander Crispy wrote:dont matter they need a nerf at close ranged.in gneral it needs a nerf.i should not have to run away.fight him head on in close range.like i said the shotgun needs a big nerf.and a few other things in this game the need a nerf weapons are not that well balance in this game. I'm going to try to say this as nice as possible: Please learn how to play Dust 514. This isn't just a generic FPS where everyone has the same HP and everything does the same damage. There's a deep layer of metagaming involving niche play styles and you need to respect those niche play styles by learning how to properly counter them instead of coming on the forum and crying for nerfs. That shotgunner put a lot of practice and trial and error to learn how to even get within his effective range to kill you efficiently. The least you can do is acknowlege that "Hey, that shotgunner was pretty good" and respawn to show them that you're better. But instead we're repeating the same goddamned mistakes that we did since closed beta because people never want to learn this game. This is why everything gets nerfed into the ground and quite frankly, newer content is coming into the game pre-nerfed to spare your tears. PS: Shotguns were already nerfed in Uprising 1.0... Edited for grammar because mobile is crap. (This is why we need Tapatalk compatibility!)
^ this |
Zyrus Amalomyn
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
203
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Posted - 2013.06.22 20:17:00 -
[95] - Quote
I am a shotgunner, and I think the OP is a fool. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
2800
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Posted - 2013.06.22 21:19:00 -
[96] - Quote
Meeko Fent wrote:^^ Very good Question.
Maybe when Cloaks Come out that will be the New OP CQC fit. lawlz
What the **** are you doing? Are you trying to give the OP more ideas and what CCP should needlessly nerf? |
Johnny Guilt
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
114
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Posted - 2013.06.23 05:16:00 -
[97] - Quote
Cosgar wrote:Johnny Guilt wrote:They are fine damage wise,are you sure your not just getting killed by a militia/standard shotgun stacked with damage mods? Who has to use damage mods with a shotgun?
I do
youd be suprised the damge to get with just 2 complexes(all you need really), you have the power of a breach shotty with more shells and firerate |
KING CHECKMATE
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
120
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Posted - 2013.06.23 06:31:00 -
[98] - Quote
Commander Crispy wrote:THey are way to overpower.need to be brought down with other weapons.no way they should be kill someone so fast.please nerf the shotguns in this game.
*Facepalm*
You obviously dont know what using a CQ weapon means in a game where the most used and powerful weapons are mid/long range.
You are saying that after a CQ player runs 100 mts under fire to get close to you he still needs to shoot more than 3-5 times to kill you. SERIOUSLY.
Im leaving... i cant take this post seriously...
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