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Z3R0 GR4VITY
HavoK Core RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.06.12 22:19:00 -
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D legendary hero wrote:Z3R0 GR4VITY wrote:Shotguns are currently really hard to get a good shot on someone. The shotguns spread does not spread out circularly like one would think. If you're closeup with a shotgun and you're a fraction off from the target that you wish to hit, most if not all the spread will miss the target. If they were to fix these problems, then I could see a slight nerf to damage. no shotguns are fine with spread because when you level them up the dispersion fixes itself. i use the 'dren' shotgun with no damage mods and its good, but the aiming system combined with the over nerfed range make it weak. when CCP fixes the range, and the aiming system shotguns will be balanced out. shotguns will get the slightly greater range they need, and the user will actually be able to hit their target. never nerf shotgun damage, it defeats the point to the weapon.
I'm fully leveled into shotguns and the skill does not do justice to the gun. By spread I mean the fact that it should spread outward in a circular fashion, currently the gun speads in a linear fashion making it even harder to hit your target. |
KEROSIINI-TERO
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
444
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Posted - 2013.06.12 22:44:00 -
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Shotguns are actually weakest in a long long time right now. Well, excluding memory leak maps of last fall (in one frame per second shotguns become useless, automatic weps might get some kills) |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
1441
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Posted - 2013.06.12 22:54:00 -
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Since we're talking about bad hit detection here's a protip for shotgunners: Train yourself to compensate for hit box latency. It's not as drastic as my example, but there's a bit of latency that clocks in at a few fractions of a second that can help with landing hits. As long as you get ~half of your marker on someone, it'll still register as a direct hit. This is especially useful when someone tries to strafe and even more drastic when back pedaling since you move faster than you would laterally. |
xXCleopatra FlippantXx
Silver Sand Social Club
8
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Posted - 2013.06.12 23:15:00 -
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just be more on the lookout, jeez. I kill more scouts with my AR as they try to gain on me by far, then they kill me, and only cuz they dident get a whole shot in the first one. Let them keep what they have, All hail the scouts |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
1442
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Posted - 2013.06.12 23:21:00 -
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At this point, I'm more afraid of Minmatar scouts with nova knives than any other scouts with a shotty. It's like fighting Nightcrawler from the begging of X-2... |
Commander Crispy
DepartmentOfCorruption
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Posted - 2013.06.12 23:38:00 -
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I really don't care what u people think.shotguns need a nerf.not be a 1 hit kill.Nerf them.and a lot of other weapons need a nerf.
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Andius Fidelitas
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
73
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Posted - 2013.06.12 23:40:00 -
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Shotguns needing a nerf??
BHAHAHAHAHAH, what a laughable ploy.... |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
1445
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Posted - 2013.06.12 23:45:00 -
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Commander Crispy wrote:I really don't care what u people think.shotguns need a nerf.not be a 1 hit kill.Nerf them.and a lot of other weapons need a nerf.
A Try making a MLT scout suit with a shotty and give it a try and see how OP they are...
Also, everything except the AR has been nerfed to the levels of novelty compared to the AR this build. You would have been really pissed in Chromosome when the MD actually worked. |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
680
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Posted - 2013.06.12 23:46:00 -
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Commander Crispy wrote:I really don't care what u people think.shotguns need a nerf.not be a 1 hit kill.Nerf them.and a lot of other weapons need a nerf.
A
ARs should be first on that list, but then again, that's what you use right, so that can't need a nerf?
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Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
1445
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Posted - 2013.06.12 23:51:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote:Commander Crispy wrote:I really don't care what u people think.shotguns need a nerf.not be a 1 hit kill.Nerf them.and a lot of other weapons need a nerf.
A ARs should be first on that list, but then again, that's what you use right, so that can't need a nerf? ARs just got another ninja buff since the TAC AR got a love tap from the nerf bat. I can't put my finger on it, but I want to say they have less dispersion, kick, and 5~6m more range. |
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Rachoi
HavoK Core RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.06.12 23:54:00 -
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i say shotguns need some more oomph, and possibly a boost when used by Gallente Scouts [cause lets face it, NK MinScout against a ShottyGalScout would be awesome to see if that were to happen]since both are gonna be REALLY in your face, or REALLY far away.
side note; with how close shotguns and Nova Knives actually have to be, i support them being super damage weapons, cause most people will gun you down if t hey see yuou coming |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
1446
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Posted - 2013.06.12 23:58:00 -
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This has to be a troll thread. It is right? Come on, admit it and I'll even give you a free like. |
Brutus Va'Khan
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
10
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Posted - 2013.06.12 23:58:00 -
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Commander Crispy wrote:dont matter they need a nerf at close ranged.in gneral it needs a nerf.i should not have to run away.fight him head on in close range.like i said the shotgun needs a big nerf.and a few other things in this game the need a nerf weapons are not that well balance in this game. He really just said "I should charge in on a shotgun with my scrub AR and win. Everything should lose to me. Always."
Don't know if trolling or really THAT stupid... |
WeapondigitX V7
Planetary Response Organization
13
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Posted - 2013.06.13 03:42:00 -
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Shotguns do not need another nerf. They were fine in chromosome. Wish they were like they were in chromosome. |
PO0KY
Armored Wolves Alpha Wolf Pack
10
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Posted - 2013.06.13 03:44:00 -
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Hmmmm... You're a special breed of stupid, aren't you? |
Talos Alomar
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
933
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Posted - 2013.06.13 03:45:00 -
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I didn't even read the thread. OP, you should just HTFU |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
1477
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Posted - 2013.06.13 03:47:00 -
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This has to be the best troll thread in history or I should have a permanent hand imprint on my forehead from face palming so hard. |
Artificer Ghost
Bojo's School of the Trades
103
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Posted - 2013.06.13 04:21:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:My knives > shotguns
I've only been on your squad, but I can literally see the terror you strike into the very pixels of your enemies. I've seen one encounter where you actually killed someone what was freaking out: Movie Style. I was like, "WHY AM I NOT MAKING MONEY OFF THIS GUY!?" xD
To OP: You need to learn to play the game. Sorry, I promise, but that's how it is. As I say in most (If not all) Nerf Threads I find:
The gun doesn't need a nerf: The players need a nerf.
You remind me of the guy that gets hit by a tank while you're trying to attack it with a Nanite Injector, and then cries that Tanks are OP. You're jsut fighting it the wrong way. AV the Tank, the same way you would back off from a Shotgunner. 90% of the time (Outside of Academy, and jsut generally against better players), I have to switch to my SMG because the darn peeps are smart enough to back the truck up. Of course, a Heavy still can't compete with me and my speed, but the HMG sometimes gets me right in the hole. :P |
Calamity Jane II
TeamPlayers EoN.
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Posted - 2013.06.13 07:48:00 -
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I'm 100% positive this post is here because of me. earlier on the 12th I had a great game where i went 57-9 got 4025 wp and made 745K isk. Sadly the commander was on the other team and left me some precious hate mail describing how i have a skill less gun and proceeded to say i was a scrub etc all while saying telling me to to **** myself. LMAO i should post the hate mail for fun. Either way I believe the beloved commander just happened to be on the business end of my shotgun for what was one of my best rounds in uprising so far. So ill take the the blame for this bad thread just like when you take the blame for a really wicked fart in an elevator that wasn't yours but lingered after the original person dealt it.
That being said, be happy you only got an uprising shotgun commander, the chromosome shotgun would have made you quit the game all together. If you think what i did to you this morning was unfair or "OP" you should have been here when i could OHK you from 40 yards and miss the shot once in a blue moon. None of this uprising shotty where OHK is about punching distance and every other round is a blank. In your unfortunate case, its wasn't the shotgun that is OP, its just you happened to meet me in a dark alleyway and i already had my S&M tools ready for the first unfortunate fool who walked my way.
The gun isn't the problem, I am, and you can't nerf that. |
Rusty Shallows
Black Jackals
99
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Posted - 2013.06.13 08:28:00 -
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Shotgun's are fine. People who specialize in them earn their kills.
Eris Ernaga wrote:I feel militia shotguns needa be nerfed but everything else is up to level. All the militia weapons need some degree of nerfing. Nothing so bad as Civilian stuff in Eve but people should feel pressured to actually spend isk for combat performance. Maybe blocking skill bonuses to them. |
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Godin Thekiller
Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack
145
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Posted - 2013.06.13 08:40:00 -
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This is clearly a troll thread. Just look at that spelling
Peace, Godin |
Godin Thekiller
Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack
145
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Posted - 2013.06.13 08:41:00 -
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Calamity Jane II wrote:I'm 100% positive this post is here because of me. earlier on the 12th I had a great game where i went 57-9 got 4025 wp and made 745K isk. Sadly the commander was on the other team and left me some precious hate mail describing how i have a skill less gun and proceeded to say i was a scrub etc all while saying telling me to to **** myself. LMAO i should post the hate mail for fun. Either way I believe the beloved commander just happened to be on the business end of my shotgun for what was one of my best rounds in uprising so far. So ill take the the blame for this bad thread just like when you take the blame for a really wicked fart in an elevator that wasn't yours but lingered after the original person dealt it.
That being said, be happy you only got an uprising shotgun commander, the chromosome shotgun would have made you quit the game all together. If you think what i did to you this morning was unfair or "OP" you should have been here when i could OHK you from 40 yards and miss the shot once in a blue moon. None of this uprising shotty where OHK is about punching distance and every other round is a blank. In your unfortunate case, its wasn't the shotgun that is OP, its just you happened to meet me in a dark alleyway and i already had my S&M tools ready for the first unfortunate fool who walked my way.
The gun isn't the problem, I am, and you can't nerf that.
gj Master Jane, gj.
Peace, Godin |
Joey-Number1
Maniacal Miners INC The Omega Industries
48
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Posted - 2013.06.13 11:05:00 -
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They ve been nerfed enough, to that point that you need to try hard to be good with them. |
BOZ MR
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
248
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Posted - 2013.06.13 11:46:00 -
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Commander Crispy wrote:THey are way to overpower.need to be brought down with other weapons.no way they should be kill someone so fast.please nerf the shotguns in this game. Go play CoD. |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
1533
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Posted - 2013.06.13 13:35:00 -
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Calamity Jane II wrote:The gun isn't the problem, I am, and you can't nerf that. They can nerf a weapon to the point that nobody wants to use it. Look at Uprising. |
Laurent Cazaderon
What The French CRONOS.
1563
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Posted - 2013.06.13 13:54:00 -
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Commander Crispy wrote:THey are way to overpower.need to be brought down with other weapons.no way they should be kill someone so fast.please nerf the shotguns in this game.
Shotguns already took a huge hit with the range skill being taken out. It's a CQC weapon that deals high damage. No wonder it can OHK even a very strong suit at point blank in the face. |
RoundEy3
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
61
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Posted - 2013.06.13 14:09:00 -
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Laurent Cazaderon wrote:Commander Crispy wrote:THey are way to overpower.need to be brought down with other weapons.no way they should be kill someone so fast.please nerf the shotguns in this game. Shotguns already took a huge hit with the range skill being taken out. It's a CQC weapon that deals high damage. No wonder it can OHK even a very strong suit at point blank in the face.
It has been spoken... The shotgun, in it's rightful and given place under the suns and stars, shall owneth thou`st face in harmony from this day forth. |
Commander Crispy
DepartmentOfCorruption
3
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Posted - 2013.06.14 13:53:00 -
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That's why this game will stay at the bottom.never have the crowd other shooters and games have.this game is bad.has the smallest population I ever seen.I see why it was free to play no one would buy this game.enjoy ur less then 6000 people who make up this game.therw way better games coming anyways will make this game look even worse.this game is to unbalanced needs to be more like other shooters. U have to spend way to many way hours ro be good to get skill points.
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IR Scifi
Silver Talon Corporation
37
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Posted - 2013.06.14 18:08:00 -
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Shotguns seem like a "working as intended" weapon to me (one of the few IMHO), if they get in range they will definitely wreck your **** but are pretty harmless outside of it. |
Lilah Silverstone
The Arrow Project
95
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Posted - 2013.06.14 18:49:00 -
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I wouldn't mind a slight range buff as the natural spread will counteract the increase, but at least give you some chance to hit stuff on the verge of where you'd swap to an smg. |
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