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Cyn Bruin Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1088	Posted - 2013.06.10 11:05:00 - [1] - Quote It isn't the same people crying/asking for improvements to core FPS play. It is alot of the newer players now, look at your forums. If you decide to ignore your 6k fan base now, who will be left to play the game in 6 months? PLEASE... Communicate to us patch notes weeks in advance (other games do it). PLEASE... Let us know what you plan to do about core FPS game play that is lacking (aim, hit detection, terrain grabbing). PLEASE... Let us know your plans for the PS4 in straightforward terms. Do not IMPLY, tell us "YES OR NO" if Dust will be on PS4. Next-Gen starts today... E3 is where hype is built. Now is the time to definitively state that CCP will port DUST to PS4. I've been apart of this game for 14 months as a beta tester. If it wasn't entertaining I would have quit along time ago. I have paid alot of money, just in beta, to help you guys out. This game "still" has a ton of potential. But if you don't plan on porting this game to the PS4 in a reasonable time, there is no point in hanging around. Please answer the simple question... Is DUST 514 going to PS4 within a year or not? Thanks, Your once Dedicated Customer
Delta 749 Kestrel Reconnaissance 283	Posted - 2013.06.10 11:09:00 - [2] - Quote Sony doesnt give a **** about this game they have their own stuff to deal with CCP really does need to take note though
Cosgar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 1280	Posted - 2013.06.10 11:12:00 - [3] - Quote Nintendo bowed out and will still have better announcements than Sony at E3.
Bendtner92 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 603	Posted - 2013.06.10 11:15:00 - [4] - Quote Sony threw CCP under the bus with the announcement of PS2, among other games, coming to the PS4.
Bigglesworth McQueen Seraphim Auxiliaries CRONOS. 100	Posted - 2013.06.10 11:18:00 - [5] - Quote I've always been optimistic with this game and CCP, but things won't change. It's over, we've just not dropped dead yet.

CCP Mintchip C C P C C P Alliance 113	Posted - 2013.06.10 11:30:00 - [6] - Quote Absolutely, more updates and more information is on the horizon :) Cheer up buttercup! CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip Dust 514 Community Rep

steadyhand amarr Amarr Immortal Volunteers 679	Posted - 2013.06.10 11:33:00 - [7] - Quote I can't work out if that was a troll or not knowing how cyn reacts to being told to cheer up. But thanks for at least noteing we are saying somthing To ne clear on cyn with this one. Patch notes would go a long way
Nalhe Saldana Get me off this damn rock. 2	Posted - 2013.06.10 11:33:00 - [8] - Quote CCP Mintchip wrote: Absolutely, more updates and more information is on the horizon :) Cheer up buttercup! CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip Dust 514 Community Rep Oops i accidentally liked a Mintchip post, unlike, unlike!
Aisha Ctarl The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 233	Posted - 2013.06.10 11:34:00 - [9] - Quote Patch notes would be nice. I can't think of any FPS or game at all for that matter that doesn't post patch notes before the patch is released.
Leither Yiltron KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 499	Posted - 2013.06.10 11:35:00 - [10] - Quote CCP Mintchip wrote: Absolutely, more updates and more information is on the horizon :) Cheer up buttercup! CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip Dust 514 Community Rep You are legitimately not helping.

A'Real Fury D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 140	Posted - 2013.06.10 11:35:00 - [11] - Quote Gunplay and Gameplay needs to be fixed quickly. I would like CCP to provide information on what patches/hot fixes they plan to implement in the coming days, weeks and the next couple of months. Until the mechanics are fixed you do not have a solid foundation to build on. It would be fun to hear about what game modes they are looking to introduce, and maps etc and the time frame they are hoping for and this is important but without the above being resolved you will have a tough time growing and/or maintaining the player base. As the Romans discovered games and circus' only get you so far.
PonyClause Rex TRAMADOL KNIGHTS 51	Posted - 2013.06.10 11:39:00 - [12] - Quote CCP Mintchip wrote: HTFU buttercup! CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip Dust 514 Community Rep Fixed
Delta 749 Kestrel Reconnaissance 283	Posted - 2013.06.10 11:42:00 - [13] - Quote A'Real Fury wrote: Gunplay and Gameplay needs to be fixed quickly. I would like CCP to provide information on what patches/hot fixes they plan to implement in the coming days, weeks and the next couple of months. Until the mechanics are fixed you do not have a solid foundation to build on. It would be fun to hear about what game modes they are looking to introduce, and maps etc and the time frame they are hoping for and this is important but without the above being resolved you will have a tough time growing and/or maintaining the player base. As the Romans discovered games and circus' only get you so far. You are making me wonder where our free bread is
meri jin Goonfeet 39	Posted - 2013.06.10 11:43:00 - [14] - Quote A'Real Fury wrote: Gunplay and Gameplay needs to be fixed quickly. I would like CCP to provide information on what patches/hot fixes they plan to implement in the coming days, weeks and the next couple of months. Until the mechanics are fixed you do not have a solid foundation to build on. It would be fun to hear about what game modes they are looking to introduce, and maps etc and the time frame they are hoping for and this is important but without the above being resolved you will have a tough time growing and/or maintaining the player base. As the Romans discovered games and circus' only get you so far. You are welcome to join this Discussion.

CCP Mintchip C C P C C P Alliance 117	Posted - 2013.06.10 11:44:00 - [15] - Quote What I can say, is that the feedback is great - and I am excited to say that a lot of the things that are a problem are being worked on. Also- that there will be a lot more consistent information coming out so that you all will know what we are doing on a week to week basis and will feel like things are getting done. Again, nothing that we are doing is a simple fix - our goal is to make a game that you guys like while also working within the parameters that we have. I completely understand your frustrations, but what I can do is get you the information. As for the fixes, those are also on the horizon. So feel heard! I hear you! :D And I agree! CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip Dust 514 Community Rep

Delta 749 Kestrel Reconnaissance 285	Posted - 2013.06.10 11:49:00 - [16] - Quote CCP Mintchip wrote: What I can say, is that the feedback is great - and I am excited to say that a lot of the things that are a problem are being worked on. Also- that there will be a lot more consistent information coming out so that you all will know what we are doing on a week to week basis and will feel like things are getting done. Again, nothing that we are doing is a simple fix - our goal is to make a game that you guys like while also working within the parameters that we have. I completely understand your frustrations, but what I can do is get you the information. As for the fixes, those are also on the horizon. So feel heard! I hear you! :D And I agree! CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip Dust 514 Community Rep We wont flay you alive if you talk to us like real people and not give us cookie cutter placations I mean really how hard would it be to post an announcement saying "Hey guys we know this that and the other thing are F'd and we have them prioritized in X Y Z order to be fixed and/or adjusted as need be" You wouldnt even have to post a time frame just the list of priorities and it would do so much towards getting some community good will

CCP Eterne C C P C C P Alliance 1919	Posted - 2013.06.10 11:51:00 - [17] - Quote Delta 749 wrote: CCP Mintchip wrote: What I can say, is that the feedback is great - and I am excited to say that a lot of the things that are a problem are being worked on. Also- that there will be a lot more consistent information coming out so that you all will know what we are doing on a week to week basis and will feel like things are getting done. Again, nothing that we are doing is a simple fix - our goal is to make a game that you guys like while also working within the parameters that we have. I completely understand your frustrations, but what I can do is get you the information. As for the fixes, those are also on the horizon. So feel heard! I hear you! :D And I agree! CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip Dust 514 Community Rep We wont flay you alive if you talk to us like real people and not give us cookie cutter placations I mean really how hard would it be to post an announcement saying "Hey guys we know this that and the other thing are F'd and we have them prioritized in X Y Z order to be fixed and/or adjusted as need be" You wouldnt even have to post a time frame just the list of priorities and it would do so much towards getting some community good will This is exactly the sort of thing we're working on getting out to you guys.

Bigglesworth McQueen Seraphim Auxiliaries CRONOS. 101	Posted - 2013.06.10 11:52:00 - [18] - Quote CCP Mintchip wrote: I completely understand your frustrations, but what I can do is get you the information. As for the fixes, those are also on the horizon. So feel heard! I hear you! :D And I agree! CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip Dust 514 Community Rep When? 'Soon' is not an acceptable answer btw. We've been waiting for information for ages, being told we'll get information isn't the same as getting it.
fenrir storm Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 327	Posted - 2013.06.10 11:54:00 - [19] - Quote CCP Mintchip wrote: What I can say, is that the feedback is great - and I am excited to say that a lot of the things that are a problem are being worked on. Also- that there will be a lot more consistent information coming out so that you all will know what we are doing on a week to week basis and will feel like things are getting done. Again, nothing that we are doing is a simple fix - our goal is to make a game that you guys like while also working within the parameters that we have. I completely understand your frustrations, but what I can do is get you the information. As for the fixes, those are also on the horizon. So feel heard! I hear you! :D And I agree! CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip Dust 514 Community Rep Funny thing about you at ccp when dealing with dust is that there is always something on the horizon, but that horizon is always a couple of years away and patients is a finite thing.
Amorale Lyadstafer Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 9	Posted - 2013.06.10 12:11:00 - [20] - Quote fenrir storm wrote: CCP Mintchip wrote: What I can say, is that the feedback is great - and I am excited to say that a lot of the things that are a problem are being worked on. Also- that there will be a lot more consistent information coming out so that you all will know what we are doing on a week to week basis and will feel like things are getting done. Again, nothing that we are doing is a simple fix - our goal is to make a game that you guys like while also working within the parameters that we have. I completely understand your frustrations, but what I can do is get you the information. As for the fixes, those are also on the horizon. So feel heard! I hear you! :D And I agree! CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip Dust 514 Community Rep Funny thing about you at ccp when dealing with dust is that there is always something on the horizon, but that horizon is always a couple of years away and patients is a finite thing. Well since horizon can't be reached, she is absolutely correct.

ReGnYuM Imperfects Negative-Feedback 130	Posted - 2013.06.10 12:13:00 - [21] - Quote CCP Mintchip wrote: Absolutely, more updates and more information is on the horizon :) Cheer up buttercup! CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip Dust 514 Community Rep Make the game fun and enjoyable, then I will Cheer up.
Lilah Silverstone The Arrow Project 75	Posted - 2013.06.10 12:16:00 - [22] - Quote 1. Even in the beta patch notes were made available a week or so before the patch, don't see what your complaint here is for. 2. Features & Ideas ----> threadnaught about this. 3. The announcement must be made very strategically given the current state of the market (in terms of competitors) so O doubt you'll get this answer until CCP deems it the proper time. Also there are other game conventions that happen, E3 may be big but it's not the only time you make announcements ever, in fact some companies prefer to visit said conventions and not even bother with E3.
Surt gods end Demon Ronin 260	Posted - 2013.06.10 12:26:00 - [23] - Quote Cyn Bruin wrote: It isn't the same people crying/asking for improvements to core FPS play. It is alot of the newer players now, look at your forums. If you decide to ignore your 6k fan base now, who will be left to play the game in 6 months? PLEASE... Communicate to us patch notes weeks in advance (other games do it). PLEASE... Let us know what you plan to do about core FPS game play that is lacking (aim, hit detection, terrain grabbing). PLEASE... Let us know your plans for the PS4 in straightforward terms. Do not IMPLY, tell us "YES OR NO" if Dust will be on PS4. Next-Gen starts today... E3 is where hype is built. Now is the time to definitively state that CCP will port DUST to PS4. I've been apart of this game for 14 months as a beta tester. If it wasn't entertaining I would have quit along time ago. I have paid alot of money, just in beta, to help you guys out. This game "still" has a ton of potential. But if you don't plan on porting this game to the PS4 in a reasonable time, there is no point in hanging around. Please answer the simple question... Is DUST 514 going to PS4 within a year or not? Thanks, Your once Dedicated Customer You said terrain grab! +1 to you bud. I made a whole thread about this., and post to in the jedi chamber to which just went to well dust. thought well maybe me and few are the only ones. Glad to know it wasn't imagined.
Bubba Brown Militaires Sans Jeux 145	Posted - 2013.06.10 14:03:00 - [24] - Quote CCP Mintchip wrote: Absolutely, more updates and more information is on the horizon :) Cheer up buttercup! CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip Dust 514 Community Rep gunna be honest, talk is cheap. you guys constantly mention that updates are coming soon(tm) and that you intend to communicate more with the fanbase except you don't, really. except for cmd wang's weekly feedback threads, those are cool
EnIgMa99 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 407	Posted - 2013.06.10 14:18:00 - [25] - Quote CCP Eterne wrote: Delta 749 wrote: CCP Mintchip wrote: What I can say, is that the feedback is great - and I am excited to say that a lot of the things that are a problem are being worked on. Also- that there will be a lot more consistent information coming out so that you all will know what we are doing on a week to week basis and will feel like things are getting done. Again, nothing that we are doing is a simple fix - our goal is to make a game that you guys like while also working within the parameters that we have. I completely understand your frustrations, but what I can do is get you the information. As for the fixes, those are also on the horizon. So feel heard! I hear you! :D And I agree! CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip Dust 514 Community Rep We wont flay you alive if you talk to us like real people and not give us cookie cutter placations I mean really how hard would it be to post an announcement saying "Hey guys we know this that and the other thing are F'd and we have them prioritized in X Y Z order to be fixed and/or adjusted as need be" You wouldnt even have to post a time frame just the list of priorities and it would do so much towards getting some community good will This is exactly the sort of thing we're working on getting out to you guys. Eterne please fix the game yo, tell socksfour that rendering a 24x24 mile map that you can't play on while sacrificing rendering people is derp re-tarted! rock solid gamplay>plastic lens flares
Vavilia Lysenko Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 33	Posted - 2013.06.10 15:21:00 - [26] - Quote Nalhe Saldana wrote: CCP Mintchip wrote: Absolutely, more updates and more information is on the horizon :) Cheer up buttercup! CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip Dust 514 Community Rep Oops i accidentally liked a Mintchip post, unlike, unlike! As your penance. You must, log in to EvE then head to a trade hub in your most expensive ship, and confess your sin in Local. Only then will your sins be forgiven.
VEXation Gunn Imperfects Negative-Feedback 202	Posted - 2013.06.10 15:22:00 - [27] - Quote CCP Eterne wrote: Delta 749 wrote: CCP Mintchip wrote: What I can say, is that the feedback is great - and I am excited to say that a lot of the things that are a problem are being worked on. Also- that there will be a lot more consistent information coming out so that you all will know what we are doing on a week to week basis and will feel like things are getting done. Again, nothing that we are doing is a simple fix - our goal is to make a game that you guys like while also working within the parameters that we have. I completely understand your frustrations, but what I can do is get you the information. As for the fixes, those are also on the horizon. So feel heard! I hear you! :D And I agree! CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip Dust 514 Community Rep We wont flay you alive if you talk to us like real people and not give us cookie cutter placations I mean really how hard would it be to post an announcement saying "Hey guys we know this that and the other thing are F'd and we have them prioritized in X Y Z order to be fixed and/or adjusted as need be" You wouldnt even have to post a time frame just the list of priorities and it would do so much towards getting some community good will This is exactly the sort of thing we're working on getting out to you guys. You will have to forgive me for having low expectations of this. Every time we bring this us you give us the "more things coming" when in reality we get cmdr wang telling us he doesn't have to listen to us. Even better then that is being told you want to listen to what open beta players have to say. Now are we up to the "new release" players and what the say? Maybe its really the game reviewers you want to listen too. All you have done is talk a big game and deliver on none of it.
Sontie Ill Omens EoN. 651	Posted - 2013.06.10 15:26:00 - [28] - Quote "soon" "on the horizon" and "upcoming" really does not communicate to us any idea of a time frame, since all these terms are subjective. "Soon" to CCP might mean 2 weeks or 6 months (we feel it's 6 months). So, could you get us a rough ballpark on stuff? Maybe fine print everything that you ballpark with a *!!!WARNING!!!* THIS IS AN ESTIMATION AND MIGHT NOT ACCURATELY REFLECT REALITY!
Girltoi Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 0	Posted - 2013.06.10 15:42:00 - [29] - Quote Bubba Brown wrote: CCP Mintchip wrote: Absolutely, more updates and more information is on the horizon :) Cheer up buttercup! CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip Dust 514 Community Rep gunna be honest, talk is cheap. you guys constantly mention that updates are coming soon(tm) and that you intend to communicate more with the fanbase except you don't, really. except for cmd wang's weekly feedback threads, those are cool This is exactly what i feel..
Godin Thekiller Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack 136	Posted - 2013.06.10 15:51:00 - [30] - Quote CCP Mintchip wrote: Absolutely, more updates and more information is on the horizon :) Cheer up buttercup! CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip Dust 514 Community Rep Get. The. ****. Out. Now.

Telcontar Dunedain Imperfects Negative-Feedback 454	Posted - 2013.06.10 16:17:00 - [31] - Quote ReGnYuM wrote: CCP Mintchip wrote: Absolutely, more updates and more information is on the horizon :) Cheer up buttercup! CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip Dust 514 Community Rep Make the game fun and enjoyable, then I will Cheer up. QFT CCP is pretty bad at making FPS so far.
InsidiousN KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 55	Posted - 2013.06.10 16:17:00 - [32] - Quote Quote: CCP Mintchip wrote: Absolutely, more updates and more information is on the horizon :) Cheer up buttercup! CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip Dust 514 Community Rep CCP Mintchip wrote: What I can say, is that the feedback is great - and I am excited to say that a lot of the things that are a problem are being worked on. Also- that there will be a lot more consistent information coming out so that you all will know what we are doing on a week to week basis and will feel like things are getting done. Again, nothing that we are doing is a simple fix - our goal is to make a game that you guys like while also working within the parameters that we have. I completely understand your frustrations, but what I can do is get you the information. As for the fixes, those are also on the horizon. So feel heard! I hear you! :D And I agree! CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip Dust 514 Community Rep What parameters are restricting you? Do you mean you have parameters that you have to work within at CCP so you can't share what you're working on with us, or do you mean you have some sort of parameters imposed by Sony not allowing you to create a passable FPS? In either case saying that you are "working within the parameters that we have" is pure lip service BS, and you know it. Honestly, people are willing to forgive when someone legitimately apologizes for a mistake- and Uprising in DUST 514 is a HUGE mistake. However, when you try to make empty excuses for why you fail (such as "working within the parameters that we have") then people will eat you ALIVE. You should know better than most- from having dealt with a game in EVE that has trolling at its core- that you should NEVER give someone more reasons to criticize you when they already have so very many. So, CCP- GET THE **** TO WORK buttercup :)
RKKR The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION 50	Posted - 2013.06.10 16:23:00 - [33] - Quote On the horizon is the new SOONGäó, you guys have been fooled!
Noc Tempre Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1881	Posted - 2013.06.10 16:26:00 - [34] - Quote Cyn Bruin wrote: It isn't the same people crying/asking for improvements to core FPS play. It is alot of the newer players now, look at your forums. If you decide to ignore your 6k fan base now, who will be left to play the game in 6 months? PLEASE... Communicate to us patch notes weeks in advance (other games do it). PLEASE... Let us know what you plan to do about core FPS game play that is lacking (aim, hit detection, terrain grabbing). PLEASE... Let us know your plans for the PS4 in straightforward terms. Do not IMPLY, tell us "YES OR NO" if Dust will be on PS4. Next-Gen starts today... E3 is where hype is built. Now is the time to definitively state that CCP will port DUST to PS4. I've been apart of this game for 14 months as a beta tester. If it wasn't entertaining I would have quit along time ago. I have paid alot of money, just in beta, to help you guys out. This game "still" has a ton of potential. But if you don't plan on porting this game to the PS4 in a reasonable time, there is no point in hanging around. Please answer the simple question... Is DUST 514 going to PS4 within a year or not? Thanks, Your once Dedicated Customer Cyn, I hate to break your heart. They haven't even started thinking PS4 yet. They are however, working very hard on improving the game. There is a patch nearing completion (less than 2 months) but I doubt they'll tell us more than 2 weeks in advance.
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. 338	Posted - 2013.06.10 16:35:00 - [35] - Quote CCP Mintchip wrote: Absolutely, more updates and more information is on the horizon :) Cheer up buttercup! CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip Dust 514 Community Rep Thank you for attempting to create an informative dialogue with the playerbase on the forums. This is something I have been wanting more of from CCP. However, I do have to admit, it would be nice if it were more than a one line update (with info that should be a given). Is there any possibility of us getting a stickied road map thread? Sharing info with the playerbase isn't going to jeopardize the game, if anything, it will make things better for all involved. In closing, I thought the saying was "suck it up buttercup".
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. 338	Posted - 2013.06.10 16:36:00 - [36] - Quote CCP Mintchip wrote: What I can say, is that the feedback is great - and I am excited to say that a lot of the things that are a problem are being worked on. Also- that there will be a lot more consistent information coming out so that you all will know what we are doing on a week to week basis and will feel like things are getting done. Again, nothing that we are doing is a simple fix - our goal is to make a game that you guys like while also working within the parameters that we have. I completely understand your frustrations, but what I can do is get you the information. As for the fixes, those are also on the horizon. So feel heard! I hear you! :D And I agree! CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip Dust 514 Community Rep This is closer to what I would want from a CR. Thank you for the info, keep us informed.
RoundEy3 Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 49	Posted - 2013.06.10 16:38:00 - [37] - Quote Wouldn't it be funny if the Dev's responded to players how players responded to them... Even the most "misinterpreted" dev comment is a pleasantry compared to player hate mail. Funny stuff for sure.
crazy space 1 Unkn0wn Killers 1323	Posted - 2013.06.10 16:41:00 - [38] - Quote CCP Mintchip wrote: And I agree! CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip Dust 514 Community Rep I figured out why they hired you. You aren't a CCP fangirl, you call it like it is. A+ The game is in desperate need of updates and fixes and you agree. That's good a lot of devs seem to think the game is the best game ever made already. I'm glad to have someone like you calling it for what it is.
Himiko Kuronaga SyNergy Gaming EoN. 538	Posted - 2013.06.10 16:41:00 - [39] - Quote The horizon can never be reached, Mint. That was a very unfortunate and painful choice of words.
StubbyDucky KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 161	Posted - 2013.06.10 16:42:00 - [40] - Quote Just come out and tell us that this whole FPS thing is way over your heads and that you won't have a good core FPS experience until a good 3-5 years from now. Lets face it, this game was great in 2009 now PS4 is here and you all can't compete. This game won't die but it sure won't be what we all had hoped for back in 2009.

xjumpman23 Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 293	Posted - 2013.06.10 16:42:00 - [41] - Quote CCP Mintchip wrote: Absolutely, more updates and more information is on the horizon :) Cheer up buttercup! CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip Dust 514 Community Rep Mintchip you should start an official petition for Cyn Bruin to change his name to "Buttercup"
crazy space 1 Unkn0wn Killers 1323	Posted - 2013.06.10 16:46:00 - [42] - Quote StubbyDucky wrote: Just come out and tell us that this whole FPS thing is way over your heads and that you won't have a good core FPS experience until a good 3-5 years from now. Lets face it, this game was great in 2009 now PS4 is here and you all can't compete. This game won't die but it sure won't be what we all had hoped for back in 2009. Give it one year, that's all Dust has to get up to speed, lets be honest. PvE, full suits, maps for each race, racial MCCs, evrything. Why doesn't the map in the war barge work? Why is everything caldari? no ammar war barge? Dust doesn't eve have MTaCs or Fighter jets yet. Fighter jet PvE.... 16vNPCs, fighter jet combat. Or 24v24 air v air battles over a gas gaint. Dust could be awesome but At least the core of the game. All it's main modes, like sandboxy mode where fighter jets are useful need to be done. 1 year
Doctor Nihk D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION 33	Posted - 2013.06.10 16:52:00 - [43] - Quote CCP Mintchip wrote: Absolutely, more updates and more information is on the horizon :) Cheer up buttercup! CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip Dust 514 Community Rep Why are you even here? Have you ever played dust?..
Noc Tempre Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1887	Posted - 2013.06.10 16:59:00 - [44] - Quote StubbyDucky wrote: Just come out and tell us that this whole FPS thing is way over your heads and that you won't have a good core FPS experience until a good 3-5 years from now. Lets face it, this game was great in 2009 now PS4 is here and you all can't compete. This game won't die but it sure won't be what we all had hoped for back in 2009. They didn't make an FPS, they made EVE with guns. Tactics, logistics, and SP mean everything. Skill means nothing.
Himiko Kuronaga SyNergy Gaming EoN. 539	Posted - 2013.06.10 17:00:00 - [45] - Quote Noc Tempre wrote: StubbyDucky wrote: Just come out and tell us that this whole FPS thing is way over your heads and that you won't have a good core FPS experience until a good 3-5 years from now. Lets face it, this game was great in 2009 now PS4 is here and you all can't compete. This game won't die but it sure won't be what we all had hoped for back in 2009. They didn't make an FPS, they made EVE with guns. Tactics, logistics, and SP mean everything. Skill means nothing. Nah. Eve is a better game.
Tony Calif Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 2264	Posted - 2013.06.10 17:02:00 - [46] - Quote On the Horizon... http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horizon So... Now you know what the horizon is, and how to calculate where it is... When can we expect an improvement to frame rate? Like in days? Weeks? Months? PvE? Another horizon jobby?
Noc Tempre Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1887	Posted - 2013.06.10 17:07:00 - [47] - Quote Tony Calif wrote: On the Horizon... http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horizon So... Now you know what the horizon is, and how to calculate where it is... When can we expect an improvement to frame rate? Like in days? Weeks? Months? PvE? Another horizon jobby? Within 2 months we'll get the new armor plates we were promised for uprising and some iterations on a bunch of broken stuff. That's what I know.
StubbyDucky KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 161	Posted - 2013.06.10 17:13:00 - [48] - Quote Tony Calif wrote: On the Horizon... http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horizon So... Now you know what the horizon is, and how to calculate where it is... When can we expect an improvement to frame rate? Like in days? Weeks? Months? PvE? Another horizon jobby? You should never expect to see a better frame rate Tony.
J'Jor Da'Wg KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 796	Posted - 2013.06.10 17:44:00 - [49] - Quote Tony Calif wrote: On the Horizon... http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horizon So... Now you know what the horizon is, and how to calculate where it is... When can we expect an improvement to frame rate? Like in days? Weeks? Months? PvE? Another horizon jobby? In 2 months we can expect to be told they are indeed working on something on the horizon. The fanboys will then descend on those who notice that they have heard this 90 times before and still haven't seen anything, and attempt to silence them by saying that its hard to develop video games and CCP is working on it.
Leither Yiltron KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 514	Posted - 2013.06.10 17:51:00 - [50] - Quote Leither Yiltron wrote: CCP Mintchip wrote: Absolutely, more updates and more information is on the horizon :) Cheer up buttercup! CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip Dust 514 Community Rep You are legitimately not helping. So now that I have a little more time, I'd like to expand on this. Mostly because I want to save everyone well-deserved grief and instead shift the grief back into the normal realm of the completely undeserved. The Eve community doesn't have a very high opinion of you as a community advocate, Mintchip, but realistically I don't know that anyone really cares. The people at CCP decided to pay you money to do something, and far be it from people to tell you that you shouldn't do it. My personal exposure to you has been in the form of two 1 quarter segments of some of your Eve videos more than a year ago. I couldn't take the absurd perkiness nor the typical videos-for-the-masses condescension in the form of offensive numbers of jump cuts. Here's a real heart-to-heart about the people with whom you're interacting and why the spin-laden perkiness is the best way to make yourself a non-entity to the players here. Dust 514 is a niche game with concurrent player numbers averaging around 6k daily. Of the unique users who play the game, it's evident that a very small proportion of them participate on these forums. On top of that, many of the guys here on the forums have been playing Dust 514 for coming up to 14 months. Let's be honest: probably longer than you've even imagined getting a job working on Dust 514. Release cycles with Dust have consistently been disappointments for a number of reasons. One of the most cited? A two steps forward, one step back philosophy. The people here don't want to hear the empty platitudes that you're spouting simply so that you can go to your new boss at the end of the day and say "I did something." If that's what you want to do for the rest of your experience here on the Dust community team, go ahead. But all it's going to do is put people's backs up and relegate the public's perception of you here into the "ignore when you see the name" category. Pretending that everything's going great is condescending and moderately delusional. You have very few new faces here to please, and even if you did you'd be washed out by the current detritus strewn around the forums. Want to make a real community impact? Go get a few more hours sunk into the game, and while you're doing that try communicating to the players here like they're actual people, rather than a bunch of zombies who will instantly perk up at a few empty promises. Nobody's asking you to be as glum as the typical bitter"vet" here, but acting like a member of a company rather than a YouTuber trying to get the random passerby to subscribe to your channel is the place to start. I guarantee that you will be insanely more effective at your job. So to round it out, that's why I made my above post. It's great that you landed a job with some of the most insane people in video gaming at CCP. More forum communication from CCP? Always fantastic...when there's enough content in your communication to merit it being there. You're trying, and I appreciate that, but you are legitimately not helping. Edit: 514 likes. pic

The legend345 Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 156	Posted - 2013.06.10 17:52:00 - [51] - Quote Leither Yiltron wrote: Leither Yiltron wrote: CCP Mintchip wrote: Absolutely, more updates and more information is on the horizon :) Cheer up buttercup! CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip Dust 514 Community Rep You are legitimately not helping. So now that I have a little more time, I'd like to expand on this. Mostly because I want to save everyone well-deserved grief and instead shift the grief back into the normal realm of the completely undeserved. The Eve community doesn't have a very high opinion of you as a community advocate, Mintchip, but realistically I don't know that anyone really cares. The people at CCP decided to pay you money to do something, and far be it from people to tell you that you shouldn't do it. My personal exposure to you has been in the form of two 1 quarter segments of some of your Eve videos more than a year ago. I couldn't take the absurd perkiness nor the typical videos-for-the-masses condescension in the form of offensive numbers of jump cuts. Here's a real heart-to-heart about the people with whom you're interacting and why the spin-laden perkiness is the best way to make yourself a non-entity to the players here. Dust 514 is a niche game with concurrent player numbers averaging around 6k daily. Of the unique users who play the game, it's evident that a very small proportion of them participate on these forums. On top of that, many of the guys here on the forums have been playing Dust 514 for coming up to 14 months. Let's be honest: probably longer than you've even imagined getting a job working on Dust 514. Release cycles with Dust have consistently been disappointments for a number of reasons. One of the most cited? A two steps forward, one step back philosophy. The people here don't want to hear the empty platitudes that you're spouting simply so that you can go to your new boss at the end of the day and say "I did something." If that's what you want to do for the rest of your experience here on the Dust community team, go ahead. But all it's going to do is put people's backs up and relegate the public's perception of you here into the "ignore when you see the name" category. Pretending that everything's going great is condescending and moderately delusional. You have very few new faces here to please, and even if you did you'd be washed out by the current detritus strewn around the forums. Want to make a real community impact? Go get a few more hours sunk into the game, and while you're doing that try communicating to the players here like they're actual people, rather than a bunch of zombies who will instantly perk up at a few empty promises. Nobody's asking you to be as glum as the typical bitter"vet" here, but acting like a member of a company rather than a YouTuber trying to get the random passerby to subscribe to your channel is the place to start. I guarantee that you will be insanely more effective at your job. So to round it out, that's why I made my above post. It's great that you landed a job with some of the most insane people in video gaming at CCP. More forum communication from CCP? Always fantastic...when there's enough content in your communication to merit it being there. You're trying, and I appreciate that, but you are legitimately not helping. Edit: 514 likes. pic Somebody summarize this for me I don't feel like reading it
RoundEy3 Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 51	Posted - 2013.06.10 17:58:00 - [52] - Quote The legend345 wrote: Leither Yiltron wrote: Leither Yiltron wrote: CCP Mintchip wrote: Absolutely, more updates and more information is on the horizon :) Cheer up buttercup! CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip Dust 514 Community Rep You are legitimately not helping. So now that I have a little more time, I'd like to expand on this. Mostly because I want to save everyone well-deserved grief and instead shift the grief back into the normal realm of the completely undeserved. The Eve community doesn't have a very high opinion of you as a community advocate, Mintchip, but realistically I don't know that anyone really cares. The people at CCP decided to pay you money to do something, and far be it from people to tell you that you shouldn't do it. My personal exposure to you has been in the form of two 1 quarter segments of some of your Eve videos more than a year ago. I couldn't take the absurd perkiness nor the typical videos-for-the-masses condescension in the form of offensive numbers of jump cuts. Here's a real heart-to-heart about the people with whom you're interacting and why the spin-laden perkiness is the best way to make yourself a non-entity to the players here. Dust 514 is a niche game with concurrent player numbers averaging around 6k daily. Of the unique users who play the game, it's evident that a very small proportion of them participate on these forums. On top of that, many of the guys here on the forums have been playing Dust 514 for coming up to 14 months. Let's be honest: probably longer than you've even imagined getting a job working on Dust 514. Release cycles with Dust have consistently been disappointments for a number of reasons. One of the most cited? A two steps forward, one step back philosophy. The people here don't want to hear the empty platitudes that you're spouting simply so that you can go to your new boss at the end of the day and say "I did something." If that's what you want to do for the rest of your experience here on the Dust community team, go ahead. But all it's going to do is put people's backs up and relegate the public's perception of you here into the "ignore when you see the name" category. Pretending that everything's going great is condescending and moderately delusional. You have very few new faces here to please, and even if you did you'd be washed out by the current detritus strewn around the forums. Want to make a real community impact? Go get a few more hours sunk into the game, and while you're doing that try communicating to the players here like they're actual people, rather than a bunch of zombies who will instantly perk up at a few empty promises. Nobody's asking you to be as glum as the typical bitter"vet" here, but acting like a member of a company rather than a YouTuber trying to get the random passerby to subscribe to your channel is the place to start. I guarantee that you will be insanely more effective at your job. So to round it out, that's why I made my above post. It's great that you landed a job with some of the most insane people in video gaming at CCP. More forum communication from CCP? Always fantastic...when there's enough content in your communication to merit it being there. You're trying, and I appreciate that, but you are legitimately not helping. Edit: 514 likes. pic Somebody summarize this for me I don't feel like reading it From my interpretation. My translation is a little rusty but I'll try and help a guy out. "Video game developer drama is like a soap opera to me. I can't get enough out of the verbal debauchery that we have entangled ourselves in Mintchip. But alas, you are but a newb. You don't understand Eve or me. Eve and I have had an affair for nearly a decade. I'm not ashamed but I feel you should know. You deserve that much at least. If you loved Eve the way I did you'd understand. Otherwise it is impossible for you to do your job."
noobsniper the 2nd The Surrogates Of War 5	Posted - 2013.06.10 18:01:00 - [53] - Quote CCP Mintchip wrote: Absolutely, more updates and more information is on the horizon :) Cheer up buttercup! CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip Dust 514 Community Rep YOU DONT EVEN PLAY DUST HOW DA **** ARE U A COMMUNITY REP!?!?!?!?
Doctor Nihk D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION 34	Posted - 2013.06.10 18:05:00 - [54] - Quote noobsniper the 2nd wrote: CCP Mintchip wrote: Absolutely, more updates and more information is on the horizon :) Cheer up buttercup! CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip Dust 514 Community Rep YOU DONT EVEN PLAY DUST HOW DA **** ARE U A COMMUNITY REP!?!?!?!? THIS^^^^^
noobsniper the 2nd The Surrogates Of War 5	Posted - 2013.06.10 18:08:00 - [55] - Quote Doctor Nihk wrote: noobsniper the 2nd wrote: CCP Mintchip wrote: Absolutely, more updates and more information is on the horizon :) Cheer up buttercup! CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip Dust 514 Community Rep YOU DONT EVEN PLAY DUST HOW DA **** ARE U A COMMUNITY REP!?!?!?!? THIS^^^^^ she probably doesnt even knw what a murder taxi is...
Sampson David Molon Labe. League of Infamy 23	Posted - 2013.06.10 18:08:00 - [56] - Quote Leither Yiltron wrote: Leither Yiltron wrote: CCP Mintchip wrote: Absolutely, more updates and more information is on the horizon :) Cheer up buttercup! CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip Dust 514 Community Rep You are legitimately not helping. So now that I have a little more time, I'd like to expand on this. Mostly because I want to save everyone well-deserved grief and instead shift the grief back into the normal realm of the completely undeserved. The Eve community doesn't have a very high opinion of you as a community advocate, Mintchip, but realistically I don't know that anyone really cares. The people at CCP decided to pay you money to do something, and far be it from people to tell you that you shouldn't do it. My personal exposure to you has been in the form of two 1 quarter segments of some of your Eve videos more than a year ago. I couldn't take the absurd perkiness nor the typical videos-for-the-masses condescension in the form of offensive numbers of jump cuts. Here's a real heart-to-heart about the people with whom you're interacting and why the spin-laden perkiness is the best way to make yourself a non-entity to the players here. Dust 514 is a niche game with concurrent player numbers averaging around 6k daily. Of the unique users who play the game, it's evident that a very small proportion of them participate on these forums. On top of that, many of the guys here on the forums have been playing Dust 514 for coming up to 14 months. Let's be honest: probably longer than you've even imagined getting a job working on Dust 514. Release cycles with Dust have consistently been disappointments for a number of reasons. One of the most cited? A two steps forward, one step back philosophy. The people here don't want to hear the empty platitudes that you're spouting simply so that you can go to your new boss at the end of the day and say "I did something." If that's what you want to do for the rest of your experience here on the Dust community team, go ahead. But all it's going to do is put people's backs up and relegate the public's perception of you here into the "ignore when you see the name" category. Pretending that everything's going great is condescending and moderately delusional. You have very few new faces here to please, and even if you did you'd be washed out by the current detritus strewn around the forums. Want to make a real community impact? Go get a few more hours sunk into the game, and while you're doing that try communicating to the players here like they're actual people, rather than a bunch of zombies who will instantly perk up at a few empty promises. Nobody's asking you to be as glum as the typical bitter"vet" here, but acting like a member of a company rather than a YouTuber trying to get the random passerby to subscribe to your channel is the place to start. I guarantee that you will be insanely more effective at your job. So to round it out, that's why I made my above post. It's great that you landed a job with some of the most insane people in video gaming at CCP. More forum communication from CCP? Always fantastic...when there's enough content in your communication to merit it being there. You're trying, and I appreciate that, but you are legitimately not helping. Edit: 514 likes. pic Couldn't agree more with this post. I'm growing tired of CCP kryptic transparency. The business that I always go back to and will always recommend to people are the ones that are honest and upfront with their communication. I want to still believe in CCP but they're making hard with each passing day. If you guys are under house NDA's about the stuff we're asking or commenting about then just say so. Where you at Mintchip?
Doctor Nihk D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION 34	Posted - 2013.06.10 18:13:00 - [57] - Quote noobsniper the 2nd wrote: Doctor Nihk wrote: noobsniper the 2nd wrote: CCP Mintchip wrote: Absolutely, more updates and more information is on the horizon :) Cheer up buttercup! CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip Dust 514 Community Rep YOU DONT EVEN PLAY DUST HOW DA **** ARE U A COMMUNITY REP!?!?!?!? THIS^^^^^ she probably doesnt even knw what a murder taxi is... For real. Wtf is the matter with these ppl? Did they need eye candy in the office or something? How the hell is she in anyway qualified for this??
Cyn Bruin Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1108	Posted - 2013.06.10 18:29:00 - [58] - Quote CCP Mintchip wrote: Absolutely, more updates and more information is on the horizon :) Cheer up buttercup! CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip Dust 514 Community Rep Excuse me... Honey... but i'm done. CCP has literally screwed the pooch over the past year with all the dumb changes made to this game. I don't think I've ever played an FPS where the core mechanics were this fkd up. CCP Shanghai should feel bad. E3 is a stark reminder of just how bad and out of date DUST is... You were added as a CCP rep. how long ago? 1 week? So a response like what you gave is quite flippant and based in ignorance. Been here for 14months and the game still sucks...
xjumpman23 Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 294	Posted - 2013.06.10 18:31:00 - [59] - Quote Cyn Bruin wrote: CCP Mintchip wrote: Absolutely, more updates and more information is on the horizon :) Cheer up buttercup! CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip Dust 514 Community Rep Excuse me... Honey... but i'm done. CCP has literally screwed the pooch over the past year with all the dumb changes made to this game. I don't think I've ever played an FPS where the core mechanics were this fkd up. CCP Shanghai should feel bad. E3 is a stark reminder of just how bad and out of date DUST is... You were added as a CCP rep. how long ago? 1 week? So a response like what you gave is quite flippant and based in ignorance. Been here for 14months and the game still sucks... ^^ This post has been marked/reported as ranting. Enjoy your ban
Cosgar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 1284	Posted - 2013.06.10 18:40:00 - [60] - Quote Off topic, but I have to point this out: You guys white knight the hell out of Jenza but you basically tell Mintchip to go kitten herself when she posts? Really?

Kitten Empress Ametat Security Amarr Empire 438	Posted - 2013.06.10 18:44:00 - [61] - Quote Bendtner92 wrote: Sony threw CCP under the bus with the announcement of PS2, among other games, coming to the PS4. Because Dust 514 is an absolute disaster when you compare it to Planetside 2... Or any popular FPS's in general... Yes even the "FPS THAT SHALL NOT BE NAMED" is better.
Doctor Nihk D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION 37	Posted - 2013.06.10 18:48:00 - [62] - Quote Cosgar wrote: Off topic, but I have to point this out: You guys white knight the hell out of Jenza but you basically tell Mintchip to go kitten herself when she posts? Really? Jenza actually plays dust.. Her opnions are valid.
Noc Tempre Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1893	Posted - 2013.06.10 18:50:00 - [63] - Quote Cosgar wrote: Off topic, but I have to point this out: You guys white knight the hell out of Jenza but you basically tell Mintchip to go kitten herself when she posts? Really? Jenza at least has played the game before.
xjumpman23 Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 296	Posted - 2013.06.10 18:51:00 - [64] - Quote Doctor Nihk wrote: Cosgar wrote: Off topic, but I have to point this out: You guys white knight the hell out of Jenza but you basically tell Mintchip to go kitten herself when she posts? Really? Jenza actually plays dust.. Her opnions are valid. Mintchips opinions are more valid than poopy pants
AKCP Scion Lex LEX Investments 22	Posted - 2013.06.10 19:05:00 - [65] - Quote All I have to say is this isnt eve. The people here don't have so much invested. They also don't have much reason to wait on ccp. There are a million FPSs out there, more than a few are just a click or a disk away. You guys have done a great job of bringing eve back from incarna....wth is going on here? Maybe you need to chat with bungie. From the difficulty of even getting a squad in this game I would say its in need of some work. When you add someone to contacts you should be able to tell if they are online or not just by looking. There should be a better recruitment methods. Perhaps like the ingame recruitment window eve has. Idk about anyone else, but I have had huge issues with the ingame coms not working consistantly. Honestly you need to drop the console entirely. Console players dont have the attention span for what you have in mind anyway. Maybe you need a dust csm? Get some players up to iceland and chat with them about where things are going. I would suggest the ones that arent impressed. They probably have the best ideas. I'll keep playing cause there is jack going on in my wormhole, but dont know if I can consider dust an a real mmo. right now its simply filler between ops. I sure as hell wouldn't pay for it. with 4 eve accts paid yearly you get enough of my cash. You better step it up if you want more.
Abu Stij Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 180	Posted - 2013.06.10 19:41:00 - [66] - Quote CCP Mintchip wrote: Absolutely, more updates and more information is on the horizon :) Cheer up buttercup! CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip Dust 514 Community Rep I am far from one to like you nor do I actually hate you, but that said, this post is pretty much evidence that your attitude isn't going to be helpful at all in this community. You've made a promise of "more updates and more information is on the horizon", which is basically CCP's way of saying "yeah sure, we'll get to it" which is exactly the same sort of attitude that has come from CCP in the past which lead to this thread. This isn't something CCP isn't known for doing, they did it in EVE for a good while and actually realized that they should communicate with the players more. The added "cheer up buttercup" is needless and, to some, it comes across as if you're talking to a child and not someone who is a customer. I can see where you want to make the OP feel good about the game, but don't let the ambiguity of your words lead to you coming across as condescending. In your two years of playing EVE, you had to have at least seen the EVE-O forums once or twice, and in which case you would have seen the posts Guard, Fozzie, Eterne etc. make, they never let themselves come across as condescending. Hell, Xhagen came across condescending on the EVE-O forums in your "Look at me I work for CCP now" and the players chastised him over it, because its bad form and makes you look like you're of the Incarna-era mindset CCP has tried to correct over the past few years. I'm not sure what qualifications you had that got you the position nor does it make any difference at this point. I get you're having a blast in Iceland and stealing FoxFour's phone to post on his twitter, its cool I get you want to have fun at work, we all do. But when you're on these forums, you know your e-office, for the love that is holy follow this advice: If you're just going to empty-post, don't bother posting. You're just fueling the "CCP doesn't provide any information and makes false promises" that you, as a Community Representative, should be trying to fix. We have players here going on a year of playing this game, and know a lot of the issues. These people have been patient while CCP does this, or that to "optimize" the game. When you come in and just say "yeah we'll totally do that!" months after that same thing was said, it's not helpful whatsoever. AKCP Scion Lex wrote: Maybe you need a dust csm? Get some players up to iceland and chat with them about where things are going. I would suggest the ones that arent impressed. They probably have the best ideas. I'll keep playing cause there is jack going on in my wormhole, but dont know if I can consider dust an a real mmo. right now its simply filler between ops. I sure as hell wouldn't pay for it. with 4 eve accts paid yearly you get enough of my cash. You better step it up if you want more. They have that, its the CPM which was appointed by CCP until the first elections take place. They have, in some ways, been useful but in others they haven't been able to provide any details on matters due to either NDA, or CCP just not working with them or giving the information.
Sampson David Molon Labe. League of Infamy 23	Posted - 2013.06.10 20:21:00 - [67] - Quote Abu Stij wrote: CCP Mintchip wrote: Absolutely, more updates and more information is on the horizon :) Cheer up buttercup! CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip Dust 514 Community Rep I am far from one to like you nor do I actually hate you, but that said, this post is pretty much evidence that your attitude isn't going to be helpful at all in this community. You've made a promise of "more updates and more information is on the horizon", which is basically CCP's way of saying "yeah sure, we'll get to it" which is exactly the same sort of attitude that has come from CCP in the past which lead to this thread. This isn't something CCP isn't known for doing, they did it in EVE for a good while and actually realized that they should communicate with the players more. The added "cheer up buttercup" is needless and, to some, it comes across as if you're talking to a child and not someone who is a customer. I can see where you want to make the OP feel good about the game, but don't let the ambiguity of your words lead to you coming across as condescending. In your two years of playing EVE, you had to have at least seen the EVE-O forums once or twice, and in which case you would have seen the posts Guard, Navigator, Falcon, Eterne etc. make, they never let themselves come across as condescending. Hell, Xhagen came across condescending on the EVE-O forums in your "I work for CCP now" thread and the players chastised him over it, because its bad form and makes you look like you're of the Incarna-era mindset CCP has tried to correct over the past few years. Being that out of touch with your community in a game like EVE and, conceptually, DUST is just a bad business move. These games are niche and attract niche players, when you start mistreating them, you're basically throwing away your base which is where your money comes from, especially your paycheck. I'm not sure what qualifications you had that got you the position nor does it make any difference at this point. I get you're having a blast in Iceland and stealing FoxFour's phone to post on his twitter, its cool I get you want to have fun at work, we all do. But when you're on these forums, you know your e-office, for the love that is holy follow this advice: If you're just going to empty-post, don't bother posting. You're just fueling the "CCP doesn't provide any information and makes false promises" that you, as a Community Representative, should be trying to fix. We have players here going on a year of playing this game, and know a lot of the issues. These people have been patient while CCP does this, or that to improve the game. When you come in and just say "yeah we'll totally do that!" months after that same thing was said, it's not helpful whatsoever and only leads to others pointing out that your role, or possibly you in particular, are not needed nor helpful to the situation. AKCP Scion Lex wrote: Maybe you need a dust csm? Get some players up to iceland and chat with them about where things are going. I would suggest the ones that arent impressed. They probably have the best ideas. I'll keep playing cause there is jack going on in my wormhole, but dont know if I can consider dust an a real mmo. right now its simply filler between ops. I sure as hell wouldn't pay for it. with 4 eve accts paid yearly you get enough of my cash. You better step it up if you want more. They have that, its the CPM which was appointed by CCP until the first elections take place. They have, in some ways, been useful but in others they haven't been able to provide any details on matters due to either NDA, or CCP just not working with them or giving the information. Seeing mintchip's comment at the beginning of this thread was also very concerning as well. The community is getting fed up with comments like that. We understand that your trying to keep it light hearted but were past that point. We want real information communicated to us. Like actuall time lines or internal discussions on how you plan to apporoach our cocnerns and comments. Yes I know about the weekly feedback/bug reports, but thats a shadow of what should be communicated. Foxfour has been great with communicating with us but that isn't his main job. That job should be left up to the community team. You promised better communication at the beginning of the year, but CCP has yet to fulfill that promise with the expection with the month of april which was just a clear lead in to fanfest, EvE ten year anniversary, and the launch of dust. You stated that your hoping to fix the bridge of communication between the community and the devs. How do you plan on doing that? What is the internal philosphy on communicating and listening to the community. i like many others in here would be more then willing to join the dust community team and help with communication (with a salary associated with it) . Where you at mintchip?

CCP Mintchip C C P C C P Alliance 181	Posted - 2013.06.10 20:33:00 - [68] - Quote Hey there! I appreciate your concern and I've stated before that we are working towards a system to make what's going on behind the scenes more visible to you. I am new here; so my posts may be what you've seen before, but ultimately they are our promise to a more transparent future. Also! I am in daily working hours in Iceland, I will have a USTZ when I am back in SF :D So until then, I'll be posting on an Icelandic time-schedule! Which means I'm going to bed now :P Thank you for your feedback, I am sorry again that you feel the way you do - hopefully there's action and you'll be very very pleased with me. :) We will meet again! CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip Dust 514 Community Rep


CCP Falcon C C P C C P Alliance 274	Posted - 2013.06.10 20:36:00 - [69] - Quote Hey guys, So just a note here. I've removed a few unsavoury posts from this thread. While we accept the fact that some people will be critical, and may have negative opinions, we ask that they are expressed clearly, cohesively and without resorting to personal attacks on our staff. No one has crossed that line in this thread yet, but if you are going to be critical then please bear this in mind, as the last thing we want to do is start dishing out forum reprimands to people who have genuine concerns. Criticism is welcome, but please keep it within the forum rules, which can be found here. Thanks <3


CCP FoxFour C C P C C P Alliance 23600	Posted - 2013.06.10 20:43:00 - [70] - Quote I just want to add that I find it highly... well awkward that very few of you bother to make such long and thought out responses when I post random to the forums or "interact" with the community. Guess I best shut up before you guys get mad at me. If for some reason you guys don't want to believe CCP Mintchip when she says it, as someone from outside the community team they are working to improve the communications. /me shrugs Home I go


AKCP Scion Lex LEX Investments 22	Posted - 2013.06.10 20:44:00 - [71] - Quote CCP Falcon wrote: Hey guys, So just a note here. I've removed a few unsavoury posts from this thread. While we accept the fact that some people will be critical, and may have negative opinions, we ask that they are expressed clearly, cohesively and without resorting to personal attacks on our staff. No one has crossed that line in this thread yet, but if you are going to be critical then please bear this in mind, as the last thing we want to do is start dishing out forum reprimands to people who have genuine concerns. Criticism is welcome, but please keep it within the forum rules, which can be found here. Thanks <3 err seriously? Listen bub, I shelled out 300 bucks to try out your game. TV, PS3, Headset, etc. I have paid you people for 7 years. To be honest you are missing your own standard. I remember when this is what the eve forums sounded like. Now I come over to dust and its like groundhog day. These folk may not be familiar with CCP but I am. You can do better and you need to start by cutting the crap and providing information that makes sense. I still suspect that Sony has you hog tied. The same way your CEO did, back when he was diluted about incarna. To bad Dust cant revolt like we can. We can quit though.
Leither Yiltron KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 526	Posted - 2013.06.10 20:45:00 - [72] - Quote CCP FoxFour wrote: I just want to add that I find it highly... well awkward that very few of you bother to make such long and thought out responses when I post random to the forums or "interact" with the community. Guess I best shut up before you guys get mad at me. If for some reason you guys don't want to believe CCP Mintchip when she says it, as someone from outside the community team they are working to improve the communications. /me shrugs Home I go You don't treat people like 2-year-olds.
D legendary hero One-Armed Bandits Unclaimed. 145	Posted - 2013.06.10 20:49:00 - [73] - Quote CCP FoxFour wrote: I just want to add that I find it highly... well awkward that very few of you bother to make such long and thought out responses when I post random to the forums or "interact" with the community. Guess I best shut up before you guys get mad at me. If for some reason you guys don't want to believe CCP Mintchip when she says it, as someone from outside the community team they are working to improve the communications. /me shrugs Home I go thats because your just awesome bro
InsidiousN KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 64	Posted - 2013.06.10 20:54:00 - [74] - Quote CCP FoxFour wrote: I just want to add that I find it highly... well awkward that very few of you bother to make such long and thought out responses when I post random to the forums or "interact" with the community. Guess I best shut up before you guys get mad at me. If for some reason you guys don't want to believe CCP Mintchip when she says it, as someone from outside the community team they are working to improve the communications. /me shrugs Home I go As soon as you release an actual hard timeline of what you're actually working on, I'll be sure to interact with it.
Sampson David Molon Labe. League of Infamy 23	Posted - 2013.06.10 21:06:00 - [75] - Quote CCP FoxFour wrote: I just want to add that I find it highly... well awkward that very few of you bother to make such long and thought out responses when I post random to the forums or "interact" with the community. Guess I best shut up before you guys get mad at me. If for some reason you guys don't want to believe CCP Mintchip when she says it, as someone from outside the community team they are working to improve the communications. /me shrugs Home I go I do beleive in you guys and CCP as a whole. I like your post that you do and your interaction with the community even if its a friendly troll. We just want to know what is going on inside the studios. It's almost like having a girlfriend that won't tell you whats wrong when she's mad at you and just says "well you should know what my problem is." elaborate on what you mean by saying that its awkard that so few of us post long well thought out post. i see a ton of them. The only reason i'm even a little irriatated about this situation is that at the beginning of the year you stated your working on improving communication but its six month later and still the same thing. I know that nothing happens instatnly but it shouldn't take six months to come up with a community communication program. Also who can be mad at FoxFour? . I will ask again. How do you plan on improving communication with the community, maybe we can help brainstorm with you guys?
Cosgar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 1286	Posted - 2013.06.10 21:09:00 - [76] - Quote AKCP Scion Lex wrote: CCP Falcon wrote: Hey guys, So just a note here. I've removed a few unsavoury posts from this thread. While we accept the fact that some people will be critical, and may have negative opinions, we ask that they are expressed clearly, cohesively and without resorting to personal attacks on our staff. No one has crossed that line in this thread yet, but if you are going to be critical then please bear this in mind, as the last thing we want to do is start dishing out forum reprimands to people who have genuine concerns. Criticism is welcome, but please keep it within the forum rules, which can be found here. Thanks <3 err seriously? Listen bub, I shelled out 300 bucks to try out your game. TV, PS3, Headset, etc. I have paid you people for 7 years. To be honest you are missing your own standard. I remember when this is what the eve forums sounded like. Now I come over to dust and its like groundhog day. These folk may not be familiar with CCP but I am. You can do better and you need to start by cutting the crap and providing information that makes sense. I still suspect that Sony has you hog tied. The same way your CEO did, back when he was diluted about incarna. To bad Dust cant revolt like we can. We can quit though. Holy ****! I know Dust 514 can use some work, but did you have to bring Incarna into the argument?
PonyClause Rex TRAMADOL KNIGHTS 56	Posted - 2013.06.10 21:31:00 - [77] - Quote Going by the dev responses this thread is going to get locked for sure and all because a devote player / customer asked for some feed back and trolled by a dev What exactly did you expect to happen? Players are pissed off as it is you don't need to fuel the fire with childish remarks Get a grip or you will be -1 another player / customer
AKCP Scion Lex LEX Investments 23	Posted - 2013.06.10 21:36:00 - [78] - Quote Cosgar wrote: AKCP Scion Lex wrote: CCP Falcon wrote: Hey guys, So just a note here. I've removed a few unsavoury posts from this thread. While we accept the fact that some people will be critical, and may have negative opinions, we ask that they are expressed clearly, cohesively and without resorting to personal attacks on our staff. No one has crossed that line in this thread yet, but if you are going to be critical then please bear this in mind, as the last thing we want to do is start dishing out forum reprimands to people who have genuine concerns. Criticism is welcome, but please keep it within the forum rules, which can be found here. Thanks <3 err seriously? Listen bub, I shelled out 300 bucks to try out your game. TV, PS3, Headset, etc. I have paid you people for 7 years. To be honest you are missing your own standard. I remember when this is what the eve forums sounded like. Now I come over to dust and its like groundhog day. These folk may not be familiar with CCP but I am. You can do better and you need to start by cutting the crap and providing information that makes sense. I still suspect that Sony has you hog tied. The same way your CEO did, back when he was diluted about incarna. To bad Dust cant revolt like we can. We can quit though. Holy ****! I know Dust 514 can use some work, but did you have to bring Incarna into the argument? Ya I did. That was a failure to communicate that would have continued if the eve player based hadn't freaked out. Keep in mind that if the players had done nothing I doubt we would have gotten the changes that we did. CCP is a talented lot, but history has shown they only respond when pushed. So I brought up incarna. Fact of the matter is they need to learn to respond faster on all fronts. I waited to try this game so they could work out the bugs....and they havent. That might be unreasonable to you, but they still have to compete with whats already on the market regardless of how many new features they are trying to carry. They create the toxic relationship with a low and inadequate response time...not us. Lets not forget we pay for thier homes, cars and what have you so I will bring up whatever i like. Love you CCP, but get on it.
Abron Garr Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 413	Posted - 2013.06.10 21:38:00 - [79] - Quote ITT: "Soon"
Rupture Reaperson Deadly Blue Dots RISE of LEGION 180	Posted - 2013.06.10 21:38:00 - [80] - Quote Cosgar wrote: Off topic, but I have to point this out: You guys white knight the hell out of Jenza Hold the fuckmothering phone. WAT Who does that?

Novawolf McDustingham The514th The Official Mintchip Fanclub 208	Posted - 2013.06.10 21:42:00 - [81] - Quote Hey, everybody! Respect teh 'chipper, our little fireband of Dev/Player interaction goodness. Go, Mintchip, go!
Abron Garr Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 413	Posted - 2013.06.10 21:48:00 - [82] - Quote pathetic
Himiko Kuronaga SyNergy Gaming EoN. 557	Posted - 2013.06.10 21:49:00 - [83] - Quote Leither Yiltron wrote: CCP FoxFour wrote: I just want to add that I find it highly... well awkward that very few of you bother to make such long and thought out responses when I post random to the forums or "interact" with the community. Guess I best shut up before you guys get mad at me. If for some reason you guys don't want to believe CCP Mintchip when she says it, as someone from outside the community team they are working to improve the communications. /me shrugs Home I go You don't treat people like 2-year-olds. You do when they act like 2-year-olds.
BL4CK FRIAR HDYLTA Defiant Legacy 76	Posted - 2013.06.10 22:09:00 - [84] - Quote Chris Roberts and the Cloud Imperium group update their community on a weekly if not more basis complete with video logs, fiction, art and so much more on a budget of 10million. What's your excuse CCP?
OliasSunsoo BetaMax. CRONOS. 18	Posted - 2013.06.10 22:26:00 - [85] - Quote The fact that the vocal majority is so up in arms and disappointed with Dust to date, makes for the possibility that CCP is in fact doing the right thing by going about their business and building their game, their way and in their own good time. If I seriously had any substantial issues with Dust, I simply would not play it. I enjoy playing it, so I throw CCP some coin now and then. I like the fact that CCP is a private company, on an island, protected by Vikings. It will take more than this homely hoard to stop them from realizing their vision, I have played EVE long enough to appreciate that. The game mechanics, the immersion, all the broken things, to me, will simply be cast back into the fire and forged into something new. The passion and protectiveness those at CCP must certainly feel towards the living beast that is Tranquility must, no doubt, run deep. The reaction to the deployment of Icarna asked CCP to HTFU. With the release of Dust, it is CCP who is asking this new breed of console/PC playerbase to HTFU. Uninstall if you have too, but your toons will persist until you biomass. This game is free. Your time is your own, spend it wisely. As for me, I will be here. With a pistol to your face. You can trash my corp, my ceo, my alliance, even my gameplay. I'll still be here. With a pistol to your face.
zeroknexus DUST University Ivy League 5	Posted - 2013.06.10 22:30:00 - [86] - Quote Please CCP can you please answer the OP questions please. We can see that 3 Devs have read this thread (CCP Eterne, CCP Falcon and CCP Foxfour) because they have posted replies, BUT NO ANSWERS?? We (the players) all know certain things are broken/unbalanced in the game. We also all know, that you (the devs) know we know things are broken and unbalanced and have been asking 3 very simple questions. 1. What are you working to fix/balance right now. 2. What exactly are these fixes/balances. 3. When will you give us these fixes/balances (soon is not an acceptable answer). But you are unwilling for some reason to give us the answer. This of course is leading to more question, uncertainty, frustration, fear and in some cases anger. If you need to know how to achieve the level of communication for Dust514 we are asking for, then please go and speak to CCP Fozzie and look at how he operates on the EVE forums. Please give us some proper answers so we can stop posting the same questions over and over again. PLEASE
Fred Laurentson Laurentson INC StructureDamage 2	Posted - 2013.06.10 22:43:00 - [87] - Quote CCP FoxFour wrote: I just want to add that I find it highly... well awkward that very few of you bother to make such long and thought out responses when I post random to the forums or "interact" with the community. Guess I best shut up before you guys get mad at me. If for some reason you guys don't want to believe CCP Mintchip when she says it, as someone from outside the community team they are working to improve the communications. /me shrugs Home I go It's pretty simple: you've been here a while. You're a known quantity. CCP NewDev is always going to get a bit of attention while people try to work them out, find out what they are doing. ;) I think a lot of people are hoping that CCP hiring a new talkative person for DUST means we'll see more dev posts in general: one of the big things the community team do for DUST is poke Devs about relevant threads. I certainly am: it's very disappointing to have both forums open and compare how many blue posts there are, and the general nature of the conversation about game-impacting mechanics, art assets, etc. Things are a lot more conversational on the other side, and, in general, EVE's dev teams feel more joined-up. There's a lot less "that's not what my team does, I've no idea what the plan is" and a lot more "That's not what his team does: my team does that and we...". Still, you're all new as these things go, and in fairness the EVE devs are really good at the forum thing. You'll catch up, I'm sure!
crazy space 1 Unkn0wn Killers 1327	Posted - 2013.06.10 22:54:00 - [88] - Quote InsidiousN wrote: CCP FoxFour wrote: I just want to add that I find it highly... well awkward that very few of you bother to make such long and thought out responses when I post random to the forums or "interact" with the community. Guess I best shut up before you guys get mad at me. If for some reason you guys don't want to believe CCP Mintchip when she says it, as someone from outside the community team they are working to improve the communications. /me shrugs Home I go As soon as you release an actual hard timeline of what you're actually working on, I'll be sure to interact with it. right?
Vrain Matari ZionTCD Unclaimed. 565	Posted - 2013.06.10 23:02:00 - [89] - Quote I made it to halfway through page two. At which point the over-entitled whine factor exceeded my pain threshold/gag reflex. We all know the issues, and it certainly doesn't hurt to remind/reinforce what the priority areas are. But a thread like less goes a long way towards destroying community credibility.
BL4CK FRIAR HDYLTA Defiant Legacy 80	Posted - 2013.06.10 23:09:00 - [90] - Quote Vrain Matari wrote: I made it to halfway through page two. At which point the over-entitled whine factor exceeded my pain threshold/gag reflex. We all know the issues, and it certainly doesn't hurt to remind/reinforce what the priority areas are. But a thread like less goes a long way towards destroying community credibility. I know right, how dare a customer tell the person who wants their money what their expectations are.

Somin Krais Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 77	Posted - 2013.06.10 23:22:00 - [91] - Quote Leither Yiltron wrote: You don't treat people like 2-year-olds. I find this comment comical considering the quantity of temper tantrum posts that this forum houses. Imagine sitting at a desk at CCP and reading through this sea of **** people post here. I've seen 2-year olds that behave better and have more patience. The state of the game, bugs that need to be fixed, or not.. any member of CCP that has the patience and mental fortitude to not hunt every "ZOMG Your game sucks" poster down and murder them should be awarded.
Taurion Bruni Nightingale Logistics Pty Ltd 45	Posted - 2013.06.10 23:29:00 - [92] - Quote CCP SoxFour wrote: I just want to add that I find it highly... well awkward that very few of you bother to make such long and thought out responses when I post random to the forums or "interact" with the community. Guess I best shut up before you guys get mad at me. If for some reason you guys don't want to believe CCP Mintchip when she says it, as someone from outside the community team they are working to improve the communications. /me shrugs Home I go no, keep posting, we need all the post we can get if we want to get you to 10,000,000 likes, SoxFour
4447 Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 748	Posted - 2013.06.10 23:52:00 - [93] - Quote CCP Mintchip wrote: Absolutely, more updates and more information is on the horizon :) Cheer up buttercup! CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip Dust 514 Community Rep oh, your that girl on youtube...
Novawolf McDustingham The514th The Official Mintchip Fanclub 208	Posted - 2013.06.10 23:55:00 - [94] - Quote 4447 wrote: CCP Mintchip wrote: Absolutely, more updates and more information is on the horizon :) Cheer up buttercup! CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip Dust 514 Community Rep oh, your that girl on youtube... *you're
4447 Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 748	Posted - 2013.06.11 00:02:00 - [95] - Quote Novawolf McDustingham The514th wrote: 4447 wrote: CCP Mintchip wrote: Absolutely, more updates and more information is on the horizon :) Cheer up buttercup! CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip Dust 514 Community Rep oh, your that girl on youtube... *you're Just seen your corp, LOL.
Sparky Soline RAFFICA Squadron 0	Posted - 2013.06.11 00:12:00 - [96] - Quote CCP Mintchip wrote: What I can say, is that the feedback is great - and I am excited to say that a lot of the things that are a problem are being worked on. Also- that there will be a lot more consistent information coming out so that you all will know what we are doing on a week to week basis and will feel like things are getting done. Again, nothing that we are doing is a simple fix - our goal is to make a game that you guys like while also working within the parameters that we have. I completely understand your frustrations, but what I can do is get you the information. As for the fixes, those are also on the horizon. So feel heard! I hear you! :D And I agree! CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip Dust 514 Community Rep What do you mean by "soon"? Next month? Two weeks? In five days? Either way, please listen to us more, and wouldn't it be better if we heard whats coming (and preferably, when) so we stay in the game and get excited for the potential in Dust to become superb? I haven't a clue whats next.
Sontie Ill Omens EoN. 655	Posted - 2013.06.11 00:19:00 - [97] - Quote Whoa when did /4chan infect this forum? Seriously, our community is some of the loudest, vilest ground of self important, self entitled keyboard jockeys I have ever seen in a gaming community. When did it become "cool" to be a **** on the internet?
Abu Stij Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 182	Posted - 2013.06.11 00:20:00 - [98] - Quote CCP Mintchip wrote: Hey there! I appreciate your concern and I've stated before that we are working towards a system to make what's going on behind the scenes more visible to you. I am new here; so my posts may be what you've seen before, but ultimately they are our promise to a more transparent future. Also! I am in daily working hours in Iceland, I will have a USTZ when I am back in SF :D So until then, I'll be posting on an Icelandic time-schedule! Which means I'm going to bed now :P Thank you for your feedback, I am sorry again that you feel the way you do - hopefully there's action and you'll be very very pleased with me. :) We will meet again! CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip Dust 514 Community Rep Those tweets were in jest so take those with a grain of salt. As for your role at CCP, it's understandable you're new and eager, but as I said it's far more important to make sure your message is as you intend it and not left to ambiguity in your message, nor the tone in which you're delivering it. This is especially true after the community has routinely been made promises that have yet to live up to the words the CCP team has said, as well as the expectations the players were given for said promises. CCP FoxFour wrote: I just want to add that I find it highly... well awkward that very few of you bother to make such long and thought out responses when I post random to the forums or "interact" with the community. Guess I best shut up before you guys get mad at me. If for some reason you guys don't want to believe CCP Mintchip when she says it, as someone from outside the community team they are working to improve the communications. /me shrugs Home I go You'll notice I pointed out other CCP staff who have posted on the different forums making the same mistakes, and simply saying that perhaps some fore-thought regarding what your post will be read as by the other side is a far better approach than what has been going on lately. If you think it's personal attack on CCP Mintchip then, well all I can say is it's not. Regarding your short posts getting long drawn out responses, I will provide that service to you shortly (even though I'm sure I've done it to you before).
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. 343	Posted - 2013.06.11 01:34:00 - [99] - Quote Sontie wrote: Whoa when did /4chan infect this forum? Seriously, our community is some of the loudest, vilest ground of self important, self entitled keyboard jockeys I have ever seen in a gaming community. When did it become "cool" to be a **** on the internet? Mid-90's?
D legendary hero One-Armed Bandits Unclaimed. 147	Posted - 2013.06.11 06:51:00 - [100] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Leither Yiltron wrote: CCP FoxFour wrote: I just want to add that I find it highly... well awkward that very few of you bother to make such long and thought out responses when I post random to the forums or "interact" with the community. Guess I best shut up before you guys get mad at me. If for some reason you guys don't want to believe CCP Mintchip when she says it, as someone from outside the community team they are working to improve the communications. /me shrugs Home I go You don't treat people like 2-year-olds. You do when they act like 2-year-olds. when little children ask simple questions you give them a direct and satisfiying answr. because if you give them bullshit the next question is always "why?" and they will keep on asking until they know why.

hgghyujh Expert Intervention Caldari State 23	Posted - 2013.06.11 07:00:00 - [101] - Quote Delta 749 wrote: CCP Mintchip wrote: What I can say, is that the feedback is great - and I am excited to say that a lot of the things that are a problem are being worked on. Also- that there will be a lot more consistent information coming out so that you all will know what we are doing on a week to week basis and will feel like things are getting done. Again, nothing that we are doing is a simple fix - our goal is to make a game that you guys like while also working within the parameters that we have. I completely understand your frustrations, but what I can do is get you the information. As for the fixes, those are also on the horizon. So feel heard! I hear you! :D And I agree! CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip Dust 514 Community Rep We wont flay you alive if you talk to us like real people and not give us cookie cutter placations I mean really how hard would it be to post an announcement saying "Hey guys we know this that and the other thing are F'd and we have them prioritized in X Y Z order to be fixed and/or adjusted as need be" You wouldnt even have to post a time frame just the list of priorities and it would do so much towards getting some community good will people are stupid and people are selfish Its not that I don't agree with you, but unfortunately the stupid selfish people have ruined companies on the idea that they can treat us like people and not mutant psychopaths
CommanderBolt A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. ROFL BROS 30	Posted - 2013.06.11 07:14:00 - [102] - Quote CCP FoxFour wrote: I just want to add that I find it highly... well awkward that very few of you bother to make such long and thought out responses when I post random to the forums or "interact" with the community. Guess I best shut up before you guys get mad at me. If for some reason you guys don't want to believe CCP Mintchip when she says it, as someone from outside the community team they are working to improve the communications. /me shrugs Home I go This game is fun, if it was not people wouldn't play it. I think people get frustrated because we can see where this game CAN go to and what it CAN become but feel like progress is ......slow. Get working SON!! and when ps3 dies port this game to pc, hell enough of us are using mouse and keyboard anyway!
Godin Thekiller Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack 140	Posted - 2013.06.11 08:21:00 - [103] - Quote Sox4, I actually like you

CCP Falcon C C P C C P Alliance 283	Posted - 2013.06.11 09:10:00 - [104] - Quote AKCP Scion Lex wrote: CCP Falcon wrote: Hey guys, So just a note here. I've removed a few unsavoury posts from this thread. While we accept the fact that some people will be critical, and may have negative opinions, we ask that they are expressed clearly, cohesively and without resorting to personal attacks on our staff. No one has crossed that line in this thread yet, but if you are going to be critical then please bear this in mind, as the last thing we want to do is start dishing out forum reprimands to people who have genuine concerns. Criticism is welcome, but please keep it within the forum rules, which can be found here. Thanks <3 err seriously? Listen bub, I shelled out 300 bucks to try out your game. TV, PS3, Headset, etc. I have paid you people for 7 years. To be honest you are missing your own standard. I remember when this is what the eve forums sounded like. Now I come over to dust and its like groundhog day. These folk may not be familiar with CCP but I am. You can do better and you need to start by cutting the crap and providing information that makes sense. I still suspect that Sony has you hog tied. The same way your CEO did, back when he was diluted about incarna. To bad Dust cant revolt like we can. We can quit though. We appreciate the fact that you've spent money in order to play DUST., and we're very grateful that you made the investment. We appreciate the fact that you have opinions on DUST, either positive or negative, that you would like to share. We also appreciate that you may want to use these forums to air your concerns directly to the developers. However, in the same respect, there are rules here. Those rules include guidelines for good conduct to ensure that there are no personal attacks on our staff, or on other DUST 514 players. Read them. Also understand them. As said previously, we're more than open to criticism. This is one of the key ways that we'll improve DUST 514, by listening to our feedback from our players and acting accordingly. However, this takes time, and what we won't listen to in the meantime are bile filled rants that degenerate into personal attacks on our staff. The situation is simple. Read the forum rules, understand them, and post accordingly. We are aware of the concerns, and are more than willing to listen, but we will not tolerate attacks on our staff.

Allah's Snackbar Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 142	Posted - 2013.06.11 09:44:00 - [105] - Quote CCP Falcon wrote: We appreciate the fact that you've spent money in order to play DUST., and we're very grateful that you made the investment. We appreciate the fact that you have opinions on DUST, either positive or negative, that you would like to share. We also appreciate that you may want to use these forums to air your concerns directly to the developers. However, in the same respect, there are rules here. Those rules include guidelines for good conduct to ensure that there are no personal attacks on our staff, or on other DUST 514 players. Read them. Also understand them. As said previously, we're more than open to criticism. This is one of the key ways that we'll improve DUST 514, by listening to our feedback from our players and acting accordingly. However, this takes time, and what we won't listen to in the meantime are bile filled rants that degenerate into personal attacks on our staff. The situation is simple. Read the forum rules, understand them, and post accordingly. We are aware of the concerns, and are more than willing to listen, but we will not tolerate attacks on our staff. Ah yes, Mr Falcon. At this point I'd like to give the following advice to players tracking this thread (and forums). If you are going to hang around on these forums I advise you to use a proxy service or use a completely different provider for your forum commentary than your gaming. Of course it goes without saying you should create a completely separate PSN account for the forums that has never been associated with a Sony device. Not all will be familiar with the EVE version of CCP or select employees, but based on the post above I will give you one guess where this kind of thing leads. Keep your real forum accounts unbanned. Keep your game accounts unbanned. Still have your say. Forget "attacks" CCP doesn't like hard questions and their version of "Public Relations" isn't that fluffy fox lad, it's attacking, crass and it's very personal.
Bigglesworth McQueen Seraphim Auxiliaries CRONOS. 117	Posted - 2013.06.11 09:50:00 - [106] - Quote Allah's Snackbar wrote: their version of "Public Relations" isn't that fluffy fox lad, it's attacking, crass and it's very personal. All I have seen so far is complaints about complaints about complaints, and no actual answers. We're going round in circles and the only ones who can break the cycle are the ones with the information. Looks to me like they're looking for punishment from the community, but then not tolerating it very well.
RINON114 B.S.A.A. General Tso's Alliance 209	Posted - 2013.06.11 09:56:00 - [107] - Quote CCP Eterne wrote: Delta 749 wrote: CCP Mintchip wrote: What I can say, is that the feedback is great - and I am excited to say that a lot of the things that are a problem are being worked on. Also- that there will be a lot more consistent information coming out so that you all will know what we are doing on a week to week basis and will feel like things are getting done. Again, nothing that we are doing is a simple fix - our goal is to make a game that you guys like while also working within the parameters that we have. I completely understand your frustrations, but what I can do is get you the information. As for the fixes, those are also on the horizon. So feel heard! I hear you! :D And I agree! CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip Dust 514 Community Rep We wont flay you alive if you talk to us like real people and not give us cookie cutter placations I mean really how hard would it be to post an announcement saying "Hey guys we know this that and the other thing are F'd and we have them prioritized in X Y Z order to be fixed and/or adjusted as need be" You wouldnt even have to post a time frame just the list of priorities and it would do so much towards getting some community good will This is exactly the sort of thing we're working on getting out to you guys. I'm sorry if this has been pointed out already, but isn't this post just a load of crap? What do you mean GÇ£You're working on getting us informationGÇ¥? - surely you have an in house schedule you can just copy and paste to the forums to let us see for ourselves!
Cosgar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 1310	Posted - 2013.06.11 09:58:00 - [108] - Quote Boy, that escalated quickly...
PonyClause Rex TRAMADOL KNIGHTS 67	Posted - 2013.06.11 10:02:00 - [109] - Quote Mean while back at CCP headquarters Falcon: Hey guys ive just gave our customers some info on forum rules that will keep them busy for a while, ive bought us at least a few hours of peace
fenrir storm Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 333	Posted - 2013.06.11 10:07:00 - [110] - Quote xjumpman23 wrote: Cyn Bruin wrote: CCP Mintchip wrote: Absolutely, more updates and more information is on the horizon :) Cheer up buttercup! CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip Dust 514 Community Rep Excuse me... Honey... but i'm done. CCP has literally screwed the pooch over the past year with all the dumb changes made to this game. I don't think I've ever played an FPS where the core mechanics were this fkd up. CCP Shanghai should feel bad. E3 is a stark reminder of just how bad and out of date DUST is... You were added as a CCP rep. how long ago? 1 week? So a response like what you gave is quite flippant and based in ignorance. Been here for 14months and the game still sucks... ^^ This post has been marked/reported as ranting. Enjoy your ban I dont think he realy cares anymore mate, aand how sad you feel you have to report some one for saying how a lot of people feel.

meri jin Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 41	Posted - 2013.06.11 10:23:00 - [111] - Quote I was trying to get some information a week ago, if you like to have an objective conversation you can join me here. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=82879
Sorry Wrong Chat Phantom Universe Task Force Orion Empire 3	Posted - 2013.06.11 10:24:00 - [112] - Quote Good post CCP Falcon! You get a "like it" form me ,-)
Major Stewie Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 2	Posted - 2013.06.11 10:33:00 - [113] - Quote just saw battlefield 4 on the live stream they destroyed a pillar to collapsed a road to kill a tank they have elevators they collapsed the building that had the elevators
meri jin Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 41	Posted - 2013.06.11 10:39:00 - [114] - Quote Major Stewie wrote: just saw battlefield 4 on the live stream they destroyed a pillar to collapsed a road to kill a tank they have elevators they collapsed the building that had the elevators I love destructing environment. Really this is a very big + for BF3 and 4. The maps "evolve" during a match and it feels different overtime, even if itGÇÖs the same map. Right now in dust I miss this feeling.
Terra Thesis HDYLTA Defiant Legacy 103	Posted - 2013.06.11 13:55:00 - [115] - Quote Allah's Snackbar wrote: Ah yes, Mr Falcon. At this point I'd like to give the following advice to players tracking this thread (and forums). If you are going to hang around on these forums I advise you to use a proxy service or use a completely different provider for your forum commentary than your gaming. Of course it goes without saying you should create a completely separate PSN account for the forums that has never been associated with a Sony device. Not all will be familiar with the EVE version of CCP or select employees, but based on the post above I will give you one guess where this kind of thing leads. Keep your real forum accounts unbanned. Keep your game accounts unbanned. Still have your say. Forget "attacks" CCP doesn't like hard questions and their version of "Public Relations" isn't that fluffy fox lad, it's attacking, crass and it's very personal. Ooooooooooor you could post constructively on your main and not be the AIDS of the internet. That's also an option.
Rupture Reaperson Deadly Blue Dots RISE of LEGION 181	Posted - 2013.06.11 14:26:00 - [116] - Quote Terra Thesis wrote: Allah's Snackbar wrote: Ah yes, Mr Falcon. At this point I'd like to give the following advice to players tracking this thread (and forums). If you are going to hang around on these forums I advise you to use a proxy service or use a completely different provider for your forum commentary than your gaming. Of course it goes without saying you should create a completely separate PSN account for the forums that has never been associated with a Sony device. Not all will be familiar with the EVE version of CCP or select employees, but based on the post above I will give you one guess where this kind of thing leads. Keep your real forum accounts unbanned. Keep your game accounts unbanned. Still have your say. Forget "attacks" CCP doesn't like hard questions and their version of "Public Relations" isn't that fluffy fox lad, it's attacking, crass and it's very personal. Ooooooooooor you could post constructively on your main and not be the AIDS of the internet. That's also an option. Problem is, thats very subjective... you could be doing a onstructive critical post, that if a gm is on a bad mood and doesnt like your guts, or what you are inquiring, you are done homie.
Terra Thesis HDYLTA Defiant Legacy 103	Posted - 2013.06.11 14:46:00 - [117] - Quote Rupture Reaperson wrote: Problem is, thats very subjective... you could be doing a onstructive critical post, that if a gm is on a bad mood and doesnt like your guts, or what you are inquiring, you are done homie. Yeah, that would be terrible if this problem existed.
Fred Laurentson Laurentson INC StructureDamage 3	Posted - 2013.06.11 14:58:00 - [118] - Quote Terra Thesis wrote: Rupture Reaperson wrote: Problem is, thats very subjective... you could be doing a onstructive critical post, that if a gm is on a bad mood and doesnt like your guts, or what you are inquiring, you are done homie. Yeah, that would be terrible if this problem existed. Yeah. The Dev's don't post enough and ignore a lot of threads, fail to telegraph their current direction and generally act like a company that isn't CCP... but they are not vengeful or petty. Some people just have no calibration on what it looks like to post badly, and get all confused when it turns out they are bad at post.
Absolute Idiom II BetaMax. CRONOS. 110	Posted - 2013.06.11 15:16:00 - [119] - Quote CCP Falcon wrote: AKCP Scion Lex wrote: CCP Falcon wrote: Hey guys, So just a note here. I've removed a few unsavoury posts from this thread. While we accept the fact that some people will be critical, and may have negative opinions, we ask that they are expressed clearly, cohesively and without resorting to personal attacks on our staff. No one has crossed that line in this thread yet, but if you are going to be critical then please bear this in mind, as the last thing we want to do is start dishing out forum reprimands to people who have genuine concerns. Criticism is welcome, but please keep it within the forum rules, which can be found here. Thanks <3 err seriously? Listen bub, I shelled out 300 bucks to try out your game. TV, PS3, Headset, etc. I have paid you people for 7 years. To be honest you are missing your own standard. I remember when this is what the eve forums sounded like. Now I come over to dust and its like groundhog day. These folk may not be familiar with CCP but I am. You can do better and you need to start by cutting the crap and providing information that makes sense. I still suspect that Sony has you hog tied. The same way your CEO did, back when he was diluted about incarna. To bad Dust cant revolt like we can. We can quit though. We appreciate the fact that you've spent money in order to play DUST., and we're very grateful that you made the investment. We appreciate the fact that you have opinions on DUST, either positive or negative, that you would like to share. We also appreciate that you may want to use these forums to air your concerns directly to the developers. However, in the same respect, there are rules here. Those rules include guidelines for good conduct to ensure that there are no personal attacks on our staff, or on other DUST 514 players. Read them. Also understand them. As said previously, we're more than open to criticism. This is one of the key ways that we'll improve DUST 514, by listening to our feedback from our players and acting accordingly. However, this takes time, and what we won't listen to in the meantime are bile filled rants that degenerate into personal attacks on our staff. The situation is simple. Read the forum rules, understand them, and post accordingly. We are aware of the concerns, and are more than willing to listen, but we will not tolerate attacks on our staff. I'd like to point the community team leadership towards this article about online communities http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/BuildingCommunitieswithSo.html It has several interesting and pertinent things to say about moderation.
Somin Krais Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 79	Posted - 2013.06.11 16:55:00 - [120] - Quote I'd like to point the community team leadership to the "lock post" button. Unless you have more faith, than me, that anything good will come out of further posts.

General Tiberius1 ZionTCD Unclaimed. 763	Posted - 2013.06.11 17:45:00 - [121] - Quote CCP FoxFour wrote: I just want to add that I find it highly... well awkward that very few of you bother to make such long and thought out responses when I post random to the forums or "interact" with the community. Guess I best shut up before you guys get mad at me. If for some reason you guys don't want to believe CCP Mintchip when she says it, as someone from outside the community team they are working to improve the communications. /me shrugs Home I go we saw shiny destiny at E3.....but no dust... people have stuck it out with y'all for quite a long time (myself included) but we don't have forever, there's other things, other games we can go play. and they look and feel a great deal more polished. there's only so long people will tolerate being in the dark. (having to go to the CPM for info on the last build, INSTEAD of it coming from CCP themselves just further illustrates this point)
BL4CKST4R WarRavens League of Infamy 179	Posted - 2013.06.11 17:51:00 - [122] - Quote Dust is coming to E3 Thursday, June 13. Saved the best/worst for last?
AKCP Scion Lex Science For Death The Shadow Eclipse 25	Posted - 2013.06.11 22:01:00 - [123] - Quote OliasSunsoo wrote: The fact that the vocal majority is so up in arms and disappointed with Dust to date, makes for the possibility that CCP is in fact doing the right thing by going about their business and building their game, their way and in their own good time. If I seriously had any substantial issues with Dust, I simply would not play it. I enjoy playing it, so I throw CCP some coin now and then. I like the fact that CCP is a private company, on an island, protected by Vikings. It will take more than this homely hoard to stop them from realizing their vision, I have played EVE long enough to appreciate that. The game mechanics, the immersion, all the broken things, to me, will simply be cast back into the fire and forged into something new. The passion and protectiveness those at CCP must certainly feel towards the living beast that is Tranquility must, no doubt, run deep. The reaction to the deployment of Icarna asked CCP to HTFU. With the release of Dust, it is CCP who is asking this new breed of console/PC playerbase to HTFU. Uninstall if you have too, but your toons will persist until you biomass. This game is free. Your time is your own, spend it wisely. As for me, I will be here. With a pistol to your face. You can trash my corp, my ceo, my alliance, even my gameplay. I'll still be here. With a pistol to your face. QFT
AKCP Scion Lex Science For Death The Shadow Eclipse 25	Posted - 2013.06.11 22:07:00 - [124] - Quote ...and so i struck a nerve CCP. Sorry. Granted I wouldn't consider it an attack so much as a rehash of what he said at fanfest. Perhaps a less....polite rehash, yes. Regardless. I stand down. I will stick it out and see what you brilliant folks come up with. After all I'm stuck with the gear anyway. Come take it out on me in dust, I'm not hard to kill.
Gaff Origami ZionTCD Unclaimed. 65	Posted - 2013.06.12 02:17:00 - [125] - Quote CCP Mintchip wrote: Absolutely, more updates and more information is on the horizon :) Cheer up buttercup! CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip Dust 514 Community Rep More like an event horizon...bummer we'll never get to see it
DeathwindRising ROGUE SPADES EoN. 26	Posted - 2013.06.12 02:32:00 - [126] - Quote CCP Falcon wrote: AKCP Scion Lex wrote: CCP Falcon wrote: Hey guys, So just a note here. I've removed a few unsavoury posts from this thread. While we accept the fact that some people will be critical, and may have negative opinions, we ask that they are expressed clearly, cohesively and without resorting to personal attacks on our staff. No one has crossed that line in this thread yet, but if you are going to be critical then please bear this in mind, as the last thing we want to do is start dishing out forum reprimands to people who have genuine concerns. Criticism is welcome, but please keep it within the forum rules, which can be found here. Thanks <3 err seriously? Listen bub, I shelled out 300 bucks to try out your game. TV, PS3, Headset, etc. I have paid you people for 7 years. To be honest you are missing your own standard. I remember when this is what the eve forums sounded like. Now I come over to dust and its like groundhog day. These folk may not be familiar with CCP but I am. You can do better and you need to start by cutting the crap and providing information that makes sense. I still suspect that Sony has you hog tied. The same way your CEO did, back when he was diluted about incarna. To bad Dust cant revolt like we can. We can quit though. We appreciate the fact that you've spent money in order to play DUST., and we're very grateful that you made the investment. We appreciate the fact that you have opinions on DUST, either positive or negative, that you would like to share. We also appreciate that you may want to use these forums to air your concerns directly to the developers. However, in the same respect, there are rules here. Those rules include guidelines for good conduct to ensure that there are no personal attacks on our staff, or on other DUST 514 players. Read them. Also understand them. As said previously, we're more than open to criticism. This is one of the key ways that we'll improve DUST 514, by listening to our feedback from our players and acting accordingly. However, this takes time, and what we won't listen to in the meantime are bile filled rants that degenerate into personal attacks on our staff. The situation is simple. Read the forum rules, understand them, and post accordingly. We are aware of the concerns, and are more than willing to listen, but we will not tolerate attacks on our staff. Translation: your feedback as been noted. thanks for your money, but we'll just keep experimenting with **** however we feel like it.
Rupture Reaperson Deadly Blue Dots RISE of LEGION 184	Posted - 2013.06.12 02:40:00 - [127] - Quote Fred Laurentson wrote: Terra Thesis wrote: Rupture Reaperson wrote: Problem is, thats very subjective... you could be doing a onstructive critical post, that if a gm is on a bad mood and doesnt like your guts, or what you are inquiring, you are done homie. Yeah, that would be terrible if this problem existed. Yeah. The Dev's don't post enough and ignore a lot of threads, fail to telegraph their current direction and generally act like a company that isn't CCP... but they are not vengeful or petty. Some people just have no calibration on what it looks like to post badly, and get all confused when it turns out they are bad at post. Im calling that more of an inminent event that is bound to happen more sooner than later considering the critical times that are ahead, especially for CCP. Just calling it early.
Avatar Jin-Mei Ahrendee Frontlinez Omega Commission 0	Posted - 2013.06.12 02:41:00 - [128] - Quote Cookie cutter placation was more like a complete dodge. Fix your crap Those type of responses will only infuriate your player-base. Mass Effect killed their player-base by not listening to them, and you are headed down the exact same path. Give us crap, we shall move on to other BRIGHTER horizons, because this one is looking dim and not worth the trip in this lifetime. Answer the questions next time. Thanks. (You also might be surprised at the help you may help for free from your fans :P )
Doctor Nihk D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION 48	Posted - 2013.06.12 02:44:00 - [129] - Quote Mintchippahs can you make a youtube video and fix the Dusty please.. Its down again.
Kromestien Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 6	Posted - 2013.06.12 02:47:00 - [130] - Quote CCP Mintchip wrote: Absolutely, more updates and more information is on the horizon :) Cheer up buttercup! CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip Dust 514 Community Rep please don't lie ya little basterds. you've been ninja nerfing and ninja buffing **** damn near since the beginning. not to mention the lovely patch notes screen hasen't updated in i don't know how damn long. be upfront and honest,clear and detailed please cause people are leaving and im gonna be one of em if you keep bullshitting us.

Doctor Nihk D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION 48	Posted - 2013.06.12 02:50:00 - [131] - Quote Kromestien wrote: CCP Mintchip wrote: Absolutely, more updates and more information is on the horizon :) Cheer up buttercup! CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip Dust 514 Community Rep please don't lie ya little basterds. you've been ninja nerfing and ninja buffing **** damn near since the beginning. not to mention the lovely patch notes screen hasen't updated in i don't know how damn long. be upfront and honest,clear and detailed please cause people are leaving and im gonna be one of em if you keep bullshitting us. OH NOES HE DIDNT!!! XD TROLLOLOL
DeathwindRising ROGUE SPADES EoN. 27	Posted - 2013.06.12 20:14:00 - [132] - Quote Kromestien wrote: CCP Mintchip wrote: Absolutely, more updates and more information is on the horizon :) Cheer up buttercup! CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip Dust 514 Community Rep please don't lie ya little basterds. you've been ninja nerfing and ninja buffing **** damn near since the beginning. not to mention the lovely patch notes screen hasen't updated in i don't know how damn long. be upfront and honest,clear and detailed please cause people are leaving and im gonna be one of em if you keep bullshitting us. he's right. CCP lies to us a lot through, misdirection and omition. im pretty sure that honesty and integrity arent something they ever plan on excercising
Serah Phymne Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 3	Posted - 2013.06.12 20:31:00 - [133] - Quote With Planetside 2 coming to PS4 (A far better game for a far better system) Dust is as good as dead. CCP had a great chance to make a great game and completely BLEW it. RIP.


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